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Representative of Serbian party that won has stated (along with other officials) that Serbia won't sanction Russia because of historical ties and self-interest, will not recognise Kosovo and never will (although that is will of the people, he said he hopes that will never happen) and that the arm sales to Ukraine and Israel will stop.
The good guys won. Soros-loving Vucic got booted out.

Defeatist /pol/ memeflags status? Suck our dicks.
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Defeatist memeflaggots and other loons cannot accept that some victories can actually be won LMAO.
Got rid of the chinlet, soon gonna get rid of the lesbian, both of those people shook hands more times with Soros than their mom has sucked dicks and we got rid of them.
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>>545019329
Fuck yeah!
Samo Sloga Srbina Spašava!
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>>figure with no power has stated
You are in for a good ride stupid faggot, giving literal antifa power, wonder why all worlds biggest Satanists are happy? because they now 100% have you by balls. Funny how you are not going to mention that antifa mob is now running streets and taking "justice" into their hands, or that "never surrender" Kosovo sign from Petrovaradin fortress has been taken down literal day after the humiliation ritual election. Enjoy getting fucked in the ass, you literally asked for it and you still shill for it. By the way, Soros has literally donated money to protests over the course of past two years, together through Rockafeller foundation, they are quite open and proud of it.
Keep larping while you can rabid reddit tourist, we will keep watching and laughing as you do our job for us.
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Nemanja Karović said the same

Twitter npcs are MALDING and calling it more radical than SNS
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>>545019949
Cope student Chads beat Chud
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Kosovo je srce Srbije, Rusija je u pravu. Bazirani rusofil šiptaromrzioc
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>>545020061
I am happy about it, why would I cope? You will give us Kosovo for free, it is already arranged. With previous regime it was though to negotiate simply because they ask for much.
You will also give up your institutions to us in years time, just keep up the good work and keep the fog over the eyes of your low iq nation.
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>>545019329
Kosovo is Albanian, bro. Whatever you do will not change this fact
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>>545019949
>yiddish babble
Shan't be read, I'm afraid
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>>545020174
We know that, but we won't recognise it as it's important to the national identity and pride.
>>545019949
Dude there are 1000 pictures of Vucic shaking hand with Soros you braindead baboon.
Kosovo Albanians think 3 antifa students doing something is bigger than 20313091923 students not supporting those antifas plus the ones in charge saying they won't do it.
If we didn't matter then you wouldn't come to this thread to shit on the victory because the same things done under Vucic would be done under this party.
You're showing cognitive dissonance and I am pointing it out and if you don't agree with me you're low IQ.

It's basically like supporting Trump to own the libs. You miss the forest for a tree.
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>>545020345
>We know that, but we won't recognise it as it's important to the national identity and pride.
translating: we are all bark no bite
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>>545020166
>I am happy about it, why would I cope? You will give us Kosovo for free, it is already arranged. With previous regime it was though to negotiate simply because they ask for much.
Vucic literally gave you EVERYTHING you asked for with nothing in return and he and Kurti were practically best buddies in all but name.
Likewise, that sort of thing might continue as Serbia cannot simply "regain Kosovo" by some magic, but we will have a better government. That's it.
>>545020374
>translating: we are all bark no bite
Yes. If you tell me how we can take down the entire NATO I am listening.
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>>545019329
Give them time, they will walk back on their promises. After all selling weapons was quite profitable.
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>>545020174
Kosovo is literally not Albanian you stupid nigger.
It's the same like calling you Russian
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Under the previous admin before Vucic people also called them giga traitors and this and that but back then Kosovars didn't get fucking shit despite us being under "worst liberal traitors supported by Americans".
And then the "based nationalist Vucic" came and suddenly Kosovo Albanians get everything they ask for because Vucic is larping as Tito 2.0 and failing while the previous admin seemed to know how to play the game.
A mere coincidence.
>>545020451
Personally I am for tripling the arms sales but I don't think they are gonna walk back on it.
The MIC policy is really aggressive and it does hurt relations.
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>>545020345
hahahahahah you stupid fucking faggot, do you really think that you can have IMF and not work with us? Do you really believe that your economy would not get crushed the moment you misbehave?
There are certain ground rules to this game, certain things you can and cannot do.
Good thing for us, your stupid low iq scum kind does not even remember what has happened 30 years ago and how we destroyed any remains of lingering hope for your people to ever be free.
We have been lobotomizing your children to the point where they are now rooting for the same people that have slaughtered them in the name of peace, you are by all means a very useful goy to us.
>>545020391
Yes he did because he had to, just like he had to use our books in schools. You are too stupid to comprehend that you lost this war 30 years ago to us. I am not saying that Vucic was your savior, he merely delayed what is inevitable futire for you so that he can secure his own.
Again, just keep being oblivious useful faggot and giving us what we want for free without even filling your pockets, you see, that is the difference between you and pawns like Vucic.
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>>545020473
Who are you, knockoff Serbia?
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>that Serbia won't sanction Russia because of historical ties and self-interest
Can we stop pretending that this is a good thing? It shows a level of subservience to Russia.
That level of subervience is dangerous when you have clear signs that Russia is meddling in your domestic affairs (see: MI admitting that they took orders from Russia on how to run coalitions, Russian agents like Popovic in prior governments etc).
It's sad that the "SERBS CAN'T STOP SUCKING RUSSIAN COCKS" memes are such an accurate description of reality that a fresh government with no baggage still needs to pander to the common denominator.
We should purge the country of foreign influence ops, including Russian.
I support the Student government anyway but I think it would be helpful if people were clear-eyed about what we're doing here.
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>>545020483
Imo they will see that the budget isn't at great as they think that it is, and we'll kikes and Ukrainian do need weapons right now.
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>>545020524
How did Vucic delay the future if we are under IMF control and don't direct our future?
Are you stupid? Btw, this part of the post is rhetorical and you do not answer it.
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>>545020391
>Yes. If you tell me how we can take down the entire NATO I am listening.
You guys were not militarily defeated by NATO, and there was no will in Europe for a ground invasion. Then, out of nowhere you just gave up.
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>>545020567
Dude a liter of diesel is what 230 dinars(2 euros or 2.3 dollars) if it gets any higher there will a shit show.
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>>545020585
I am speaking about the present, not 1999.
If we start biting we will be gone. We either wait for our time and if the time doesn't come at all, we cut our losses.
However if we do go to war I will be there, I just know we cannot win against the entire NATO. 1999 is not 2026. Circumstances are different (worse).
>>545020567
Why would we sanction Russia? I disagree with the historical ties part because that's imaginary but self interest I agree with.
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>>545020374
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>>545020374
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>>545020567
>but what about the memes on a chinese cartoon website???
Nigger, you're subservient to some fat neckbeard shitposting to cope with loneliness, kill yourself.
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>>545020166
>You will give us Kosovo for free, it is already arranged. With previous regime it was though to negotiate simply because they ask for much.
>You will also give up your institutions to us in years time, just keep up the good work and keep the fog over the eyes of your low iq nation.
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>>545020688
Let's try to keep it civil, it's only 25 posts in, can we make it to 50 before posting gore?
It's not like our posts on 4chan change anything, we are here to talk.
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>>545020578
By gaining trust and power, building himself in with certain people and than just moving boundry step by step asking for more and more. This is a waiting game for us that just costs and him and other people of his time realized this and capitalized on it. They never did anything radical against us, because they know that they can't but they also did not hand us out stuff for free. If you are too blind to see that through years partnerships grew to every corner of the world, just imagine the contracts behind them and all the people involved. Rules of the game are that we do not eat our own, that would create a massive distrust between partners. However you are as of this very moment having nobody with experience and knowledge of how game even works, besides our own agents that you will surrender everything to, and if you believe that some organic doctors and academics can step into this world just like that, you have lower iq than a gorilla.
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>>545020730
ITT daily reminder Albanians have an average IQ below the threshold for mental retardation
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>>545020677
>Why would we sanction Russia?
1) It meddles in our domestic affairs
2) We're currently on the EU accession path and it is in our self-interest in that sense. I'm not pro-EU accession but we need to either shit or get off the pot.
3) Russia has nigged Crimea from Ukraine illegally, and is now trying to nig more. This is against international law regardless of what you think about other cases of breach of international law, or what you think about Ukraine's relations with NATO.

>>545020709
I'm not subservient with anyone, but there's a pattern of unwarranted subservience to Russia in Serbia.
We overpay for things in deals with Russians (see: vaccines, St. Sava Temple), we give them shit for cheap or for free (NIS), and now they're cockblocking the sale as much as they can.
I think this should be reviewed and adjusted to be in the interest of Serbian people.
Don't start your next post with "what about US/Germany/China/UAE" because my stance is identical.
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Why are Albanians like this?
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>>545020762
>bro you don't get it he was secretly fighting a Star Wars force all by himself and he built "connections", the result of this was breaking his every promise on Kosovo but bro he stalled for time and if he got reelected we would have won a breadcrumb or two eventually even though we never did under his admin, you don't get it when he cries while speaking to the UN he's thinking ahead bro they took note of it
I don't agree. In general I noticed amongst Serbs and Albanians we have some tendency to caricature each other to the point of laughter. Kurti, Rama and Vucic are trio of some hypercompetent administrators playing some great game that are beyond our imagination and everyone else that wants a shot at the power are stupid cretins.

I know what Vucic did with Serbs in Kosovo and how he swooped him into his party only to ditch them time and time again, so not only did they not get anything they repeteadly got punished by Kosovo for being out of the administration.
In the end, despite us being at each other's throats I feel sorry that our people got played so hard down there. But apperantly you think he was Tito incarnate. By his achievements he wasn't and if all we got was "time" then we did not get anything.

His admin caused us huge problems outside of Kosovo too. This country is not in a moral or social shape for some war tomorrow. This country literally cannot think about the war even though by miracle of our culture and character we somehow still have patriots even with disasters of these admins.
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>>545020677
I guess that's true. I just cringe when I see the entire national pride LARP considering how quick you guys surrendered back then.
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>>545020872
And as for subservience to Russia, there are also things like Serbia extraditing Russian exiles at a moment's notice, or Russians running cover for Vucic by lying about the sonic cannon.
You have to be naive to think Russia is treating Serbia as a friend.
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>>545020767
True. And Kosovars, the dumbest version of Albanians (PISA results) geopolitically outplayed you all and got NATO to intervene on their behalf less than a year after they were labled as terrorists by said NATO.
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>>545020993
LMAO he thinks he did something and it wasn't just the consequence of being close to Russia
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>>545020993
So are kosovars mentally retarded or?
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>>545020947
Do you even know how we broke up Montenegro and Serbia? What are you even talking about you clueless fucking moron? You are completely delusional to the point where you are refusing to open 20 year old history book, truly sad, I have nothing more to share with someone so uneducated. You voted for the same people that help us tear Serbia apart, and openly condemn and hate generals that fought against us, see what happens next, dumb useful idiot.
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>>545020872
International law is rather irrelevant. We played inside of legal framework under Milosevic, lost war in Croatia due to that and tied in Bosnia because he grew a spine in the case of Bosnia. However, literally all of our wars were inside of legal framework more or less. And by working inside that framework we lost.
Of course they came later and said that "lolololol everyone can secede from Yugoslavia even though it's tehnically illegal because uhhh the country was collapsing so the law is void xaxaxa". International law is simply something to laugh at.

Serbia recognises territorial integrity of Ukraine and I haven't seen von der Leyen fly to Belgrade and thank Vucic and give us anything. And that won't happen even if we sanction Russia and that probably won't happen even if we joined NATO.
I personally think we're not in a position to be gifted anything or to gain anything at this point lol.
>>545020958
>you guys surrendered back then.
You said to me that Kosovars ignored the communist Albanian dialogues with Milosevic but I don't know what to think about it.
Kosovars were basically leading guerrila decentarlised warfare.
Milosevic and his admin decided to stop the war, so the war stops. You can say Serbs are cowardly for not shooting him in the skull and continuing the war but I think that's wishful thinking like saying that the Germans could have won at Stalingrad if they just tried harder bro.
You put too much accent on the guy on the street when it comes to big decisions and not on the administration.
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>>545019329
>Representative of Serbian party that won has stated
>a balkan politician who is 91st on the ballet has stated
Vucic will be back by May, once these morons fall apart
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>>545021090
>>545020993
>Albania is more polluted than India
>>Population 2 million
>https://www.numbeo.com/pollution/rankings_by_country.jsp

>>544781220
>>According to the Quality of Life Survey conducted by the European Commission, around 17% of respondents said they lack a toilet or shower at home
>>17% of albanians don't have working showers or toilets
>>17% of albanians don't have working showers or toilets
>>17% of albanians don't have working showers or toilets
>(the highest in europe, 4x higher than the next) (Macedonia, large albanian population)
>https://www.balkanweb.com/en/Survey-shows-Albanians-have-unsanitary-and-damp-homes/#gsc.tab=0
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>>545020872
> It meddles in our domestic affairs
So? This is a good thing objectivly speaking. With out it we wouldonky have EU doing it. Wr are a small country and having two fingers up our bum holes means neither can go further in. As a small country we are getting fucked either way, this way it keeps it balanced
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>>545021185
I am Israeli
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>>545019329
Extremely based, imagine Ursula's fuckface when she finds out
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>>545021090
>Do you even know how we broke up Montenegro and Serbia?
You didn't break Montenegro. You are not some great devils and masterminds. Your votes got shipped in to tip the tide of independence for what, but you forget, that would never even have been happening if not for commies who manufactured a Montenegrin republic and the identity. Okay, you were voting like gypsies in the elections, congratulations. You were riding on a communist invented shitshow.
By the way, we know you are better at playing the political game than us and more loyal to each other. I never said otherwise and although most Serbs hate you we know how divisive we are and that it is almost in our national character.
We are not one-dimensional people and honestly only pure tribalists are and that is you.
Whether that is good or not is up to the question.
>>545021090
>d openly condemn and hate generals that fought against us
Who openly condemned them? In the SL party there are people who openly PRAISED Ratko. There are some leftists who say bad shit about him but to you people if you see 3 people saying something or 1 politician that's it, the entire Serbia now hates Ratko and now that Vucic is gone trans flags will fly and Ratko supporters will be hunted on the streets and Kosovo will stretch to Hungary.
Calm your tits, I am from here and I know the mood of the country and the people.

Neoliberals are literally crying how many nationalists there are in the student party.
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>>545021115
>International law is rather irrelevant
Serbia's operating space is clearly constrained by international law so pretending it's irrelevant is a sad fucking cope.

>Serbia recognises territorial integrity of Ukraine and I haven't seen von der Leyen fly to Belgrade and thank Vucic and give us anything
Why would she give us anything? Are you 5?

>I personally think we're not in a position to be gifted anything or to gain anything at this point lol.
Serbia has already eaten shit on account of failing to align itself with way less relevant sanctions systems but you don't really engage with the economy and crossborder commence as a NEET leech so you don't worry about this.

>>545021231
>So? This is a good thing objectivly speaking
This is literally treason you stupid self-incriminating nigger, you'd be in fucking jail by tomorrow if I cared enough to report your post.
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>>545020641
That's about iran, not russia
Russia never exported alot of fuel, they export crude and just refine fuel mostly for domestic use.
You suck russian cock for zero gains.
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>>545021242
>I am Israeli
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>>545020892
haven't seen that in a while
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>more than half of the post itt are filtered because memeflags
Albaboons and other shills are genuinely obsessed
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>>545021281
>This is literally treason
Why are you larping as if you care now?
>le russia is interfering in our politics
Nigger, who isnt? You only carining about Russia but not EU, US and Israel shows me were your fucking aligances lie. Dont larp ad some fucki g patriot to me you shill dog.
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>>545021279
Belgrade was our center for decades now, you are too naive and stupid to follow on what is truly going on, lehitra'ot.
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>>545021281
>Serbia's operating space is clearly constrained by international law so pretending it's irrelevant is a sad fucking cope.
International law that is ignored when it's in our favour and not ignored when it is not and used to punish us instead?
Of course I don't expect a politician to say "SERBIA TO TOKYO TO THE HELL WITH THE INTERNATIONAL LAW FUCK THE EU" but since I am not a politician I can say I piss on the international law.
Nevertheless someone like Saicic is not fucking stupid. I don't understand why are we talking about this. He will try to look at the situation like you and me and try his best to rationally come to the best conclusion. If you think we cannot tiptoe in the same position and cannot gain anything by tiptoeing then fine, you'll probably be able to vote for EU accession later. I don't know what I would vote for there, personally. Probably against and not because I am a huge Russophile nationalist.

Also I am not that spammer retard.
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>>545020641
>Dude a liter of diesel is what 230 dinars(2 euros or 2.3 dollars)
Jesus, how is it that high? It's 1.7 euro here, I thought you guys got better deals for gas and such
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my penis is 21cm long
is this generally ok? im insecure :(
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>>545021412
Only Serbs paint such caricatures out of you, when you do it for yourself it's kind of lame.
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>>545020708
90% of Serbian fighter were 19 year olds completing their national service and policemen, and Shiptars (including their professionals invading from Albania) got smashed so hard they started claiming their fighters were civilians
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>>545021051
Close to Yelstins Russia which was inquiring on joining NATO and the EU is not the reason you got bombed. The reason you got bombed is because the west feared a broader war, and you guys being involved in so many wars made you seem like the number 1 trouble makers, hence why you were bombed.
>>545021115
>You said to me that Kosovars ignored the communist Albanian dialogues with Milosevic but I don't know what to think about it.
Do you mean Ibrahim Rugova? The Kosovar former communist? Yes, they did. He called for peace and civil disobidience. He was also the elected leader of the Kosovars in the civilian referendums they made. However once his deals were not satisfactory, the KLA grew in popularity. And most Kosovars sided with them. Had Serbs been simmilar to Albanians, you would have all flocked to a non institutional non offical alternative and kept on fighting following Miosevic's unsatisfactory agreement, that is if you truly care about pride.
No I don't think Stalingrad applies. The Germans were militarily defeated there. Wheras Serbia was never militarily defeated by neither the KLA or NATO.
If the guy on the street truly cared about the supposed heart of Serbia they would never have abandonned it. For me it is just a pathetic LARP
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>>545021495
What are you talking about, the KLA was completely outgunned and outarmed by the Serbs. They had artillery, tanks, jets and military helicopters. The KLA had rusty second hand chinese AKs.

This is the type of delusions you guys have to make in order to seem somewhat brave, lmao.
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>>545021528
Yeltsin was a drunktard who got rejected from NATO and US foreign policy in that time period was to isolate Russia geopolitically at its weakest while turning their subjects against them and setting up the foundation for them to join NATO. So yes, being close to Russia is precisely the reason it happened. Serbia itself wasn't directly involved in any of the wars since 1991. , they were proxy wars and civil wars.
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>>545021586
>conveniently forgetting the Albanian armed forces invading at Kosare
>forgetting they had NATO on their side
>actually admitting high schools kids fucked them in the ass and coping with "b-b-but they had guns we were armed with horns from the last ram that fucked our sister"
and worst of all
>reddit spacing
go claim you invented burek or ajvar
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>>545019329
Serbia is rising...
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>>545021528
>Do you mean Ibrahim Rugova? The Kosovar former communist? Yes, they did. He called for peace and civil disobidience. He was also the elected leader of the Kosovars in the civilian referendums they made. However once his deals were not satisfactory, the KLA grew in popularity
And was Rugova wrong? If one side plays timid while Milosevic starts beating people up and we start shitting on the Albanians from all angles, then of course it will cause a MASSIVE SURGE in support of KLA.
If Rugova came from the extremist angle I think that would have been worse off for you and less people would support it. Unlike many others I know just how many Kosovo Albanians were commies and could be talked to. You're not retarded mindless terminators, again such caricatures are pointless. Now that everything is over we really hate each other so it is more accurate, but we could have played our hand better to some extent. And that would have been worse for us because I don't want you inside Serbia.

I had this argument with another guy a year ago. I said that we should just YOLO at the police and cause chaos and that's how we will take down Vucic, I was tired of this gay shit of campaigning and not fighting back in violent capacity. He said the opposite.
And in the end we took down Vucic and he was proven right, I am wrong.
I think it's similiar to Kosovo situation here. Was Rugova weak or did he play smart.
>If the guy on the street truly cared about the supposed heart of Serbia they would never have abandonned it. For me it is just a pathetic LARP
Because we are not extremists and never were.
Also, I don't know the mood in the country in 1999 and I don't know what people thought. From 2026 it is easy to look at the past, categorise it and say what should have been done.because we have almost clear cut view of the situation. When you are in the moment, you don't know.
Do you think NATO phoned Milosevic and told them they won't invade? No, they BLUFFED and successfully so.
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>>545021690
Comically delulu. but then again this lack of self reflection is good for us.
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>>545021690
Again, Albania was the 4th poorest country in the world and to this day 20% of your population doesn't even have toilets, and only 20% of Albanians live within Albania. If you think you had some influence or geopolitical might, I think you confirm the 81 IQ average.

Serbia got destroyed because it was the geopolitical interest of USA, not because of some goatfucking, inbred Mudslimes
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>>545021586
you are subhumans
where is your culture
where are your scientists, achievements, poets, writers, nobel prize winners, artists
who ever fucking heard of albanian cinematography, actors, artists
where is your history, generals, uprisings
you scumbags live everywhere as criminals because thats all that you can do
primitive apes
you hate each other even, still having blood feuds like the most backward primitive tribes of africa
your country was created by your western overlords to serve them and to destabilize the balkans
you are to this day their puppets
pathetic
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I love Serbian femboys. uwu
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>>545021774
>Do you think NATO phoned Milosevic and told them they won't invade? No, they BLUFFED and successfully so.
By the way the bombing started in the first place because Milosevic thought NATO is full of shit. Imagine if he thought NATO was full of shit yet again, and they actually led a ground invasion, in 2026 you'd be laughing even harder and say "lol the Serbs fucked around".
Now we know it's a bluff but you judge the situation in retrospect with all available information.
If we were wrong then shit would have been bad.
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koliko umobolan treba biti da provodis vreme svađajuci se sa siptarima
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>>545021788
Hahaha, true. It was the Albanian 4th world 81 IQ mastermind with immense influence and their American lobbyists. On the battlefield, it was also the famous Albanian stealth bombers that won against genocidal Serbs.
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>>545021843
Siptari su interesantni jer ovi iz Albanije neironicno seru po ovima iz Kosova, kad sam to saznao smejao sam se i razbile mi se iluzije o siptarima.
Cak vidis da ih ovaj brat bukvalno ismeva i kazu da su izgubili sve bitke kao picke. Ismevaju ih sto su ih Srbi terorisali 10 godina dok nije NATO dosao, cak govore da smo im silovali muskarce iako se nadam da to nije istina.
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>>545019329
he looks like a Student Leader
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There prob wont be too much foreign policy change soon since there is a lot to do on the interior, domestic institutional change is the primary focus of the students list after all. although i am surprised at the rate of change within 48h of the election: Freeing (Or flying to the other side) of media, informer fiasco (he deserves far worse but i think the way it happend is detrimental to the goals of the movement, as well as slow police action), Ćaci-land removal, regular folks going into local institutions and taking down pictures of Vucic, Many business owners switching sides this quick (Owner of building offering students anything they need/want and that he was forced to put vucics face on his building, all that being said while they have not yet removed all of the banner is craaazy fast slimyness) etc
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>>545021890
>cak govore da smo im silovali muskarce iako se nadam da to nije istina.

20000 Albanian women actually

Estimates for the number of people raped during the 1998–1999 Kosovo War generally center around 20,000 victims, though exact figures remain unverified due to social stigma and underreporting
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>>545021897
He's going to be the president. His grandfather was a Serbian officer in the Russian army who won a duel against a samurai to end the conflict between Japan and Russia.
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>>545021926
No bro student list got elected and trans flags will fly at the helm instead of Serbian ones despite all the evidence to the contrary bro trust me if you don't bootlick your local "based" leader and let him destroy the country everything will collapse and doomsday will come.
Bro I know Soros did photoshoot with Vucic every other week but trust me now they REALLY won Vucic only pretended to shake hands with Soros and he wore a transparent glove and he is ultra based bro.
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>>545019329
Soros is anti Israel though...?
Good for the rest of the stuff though, not being on the side of either Soros or Israel seems decent enough.
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>>545021741
They had support in artillery which did not follow their advances. Not brigades actually engaging with infantry. Only 129 Albanians from Albania were in the KLA and saw action inside of Kosovo.
>https://www.botasot.info/aktuale-lajme/657672/ja-kush-ishin-129-luftetaret-nga-shqiperia-ne-uck/

NATO bombed the KLA and only had loose in koshare and only gave loose support. They were cautious in aiding the KLA with CAS and only did so in late may 1999.
>"NATO will not be the KLA's airforce," said one Western official close to the talks last night. "Can you imagine NATO establishing a protectorate in Kosovo and then the KLA establish a military dictatorship? There's no way the international community is going to have that."
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/kla-asks-for-air-strikes-to-assist-guerrilla-ground-offensive-1.178305

You beating your chest over winning battles, but losing the war to units which suffered from starvation is so comical. You outgunned, outmanned and outexperienced the KLA. Yet surrendered. The KLA was totally millitarily defeated in september 1998, yet came back. You guys were never defeated, yet surrendered. Guerrilla warfare is about lasting longer and having more will. The KLA did, therefor they defeated you.
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>>545019329
>politician said
anon, i ....
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>>545021890
Albanci imaju skoro isti mentalitet kao i mi, samo bez Obilićevske figure u svojoj potsvijesti. Prosječan Šipac ima isto mišljenje to svojima kao Deretić o Srbima, dok, kao i svaki Balkanac sumnjivo gleda pripadnike svog naroda koji nisu iz njegovog sela.
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cannot wait for new wave of little smrdette refugees that I will be able to ease my horse-cock in, they love pleasing horse-cock from the age of 12-14 for little to no attention at all. Keep up the great work smrd sissies
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>>545020033
Draško Stanivuković: Republika Srpska and Serbia are one and the same and no one can keep us from uniting with Serbia

Draško also congratulated the student list, along with Dodik
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>>545022054
>Belgrade wasn't being bombed by the second largest military coalition since WW2 with 1000 aircraft and 30 naval vessels.
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Right wing Serbia will continue to be a shithole
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>>545021930
Arnaut women put out willingly, the "rape" part is just for their cucks at home
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>>545022217
T. Macaco
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>>545021955
Svaki crnogorac je montenegrin dok ne dokaze suprotno. Otac mu je neki komunjara, čim je rođen u Beogradu.
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>>545022197
You are right but in retrospect now that we know NATO bluffed and there was no plan for a ground invasion back then we didn't know and maybe we could have milked out a better deal than Kumanovo which was already a MUCH MUCH MUCH better deal than Rambouillet.
But that is alt history and who knows.
And again it is stupid to say that in retrospect because we cannot know what was bluff or not. Economic damage to Yugoslavia was gigantic (from the bombing).
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>>545019329
>>545020033
Are these the same students? HAHAHAHA
In any case, they’ll soon find out what reality is like.
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>>545022263
They didn't need a ground invasion, the airforce was sadly enough.
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>>545022317
>Are these the same students? HAHAHAHA
I know you're cucks that lost their jobs if you didn't post black squares on social media and hence have to put other people down because you have no hope in yourself, chill for once.
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>>545019329
I don't care about any party until they give the Tax Bureau the same powers and independence the IRS has. It's the only way to combat corruption in the Balkans. The problem is, it might destroy out already fragile economy.
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>>545022375

Did you forget the lesson?
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Studenti su retardirana gamad
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having been in albania and serbia you guys are all exactly the same what a pointless feud
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>>545022054
>The 81 IQ 4th poorest country in the world at the time can't comprehend someone has something to lose by being bombed

I agree Albanians had nothing to lose, and, to this day, have very little. If US were to bomb Albania back then, there'd be no industry to bomb besides a few factories transfered from Serbia to Albania by Tito in 1940s.

However, the bombing against Serbia was the most extensive bombing campaign since Nazis, more extensive than Iran, Libya, Iraq and so on... It caused $100 billion 1991 USD damages or $200 billion 2026 USD adjusted for inflation.

But even rn, Serbia's ICT exports alone are higher than Albanian and kosovar exports.

One company in the city of Kragujevac (not even Belgrade, just random industrial city in Serbia) with 60k ppl exports more in 4 months than whole Kosovo (2 million people) did in 1 year. In 2026 it will export slightly less than whole Albania.

FIAT Kragujevac annual exports in whole of 2025 - 1037 million euros. Kosovo exports 2025 - 859 million euros. This year FIAT is set to make 150000 cars and, last year, it made 50000 (they just started production), meaning FIAT exports will be slightly lower than whole of Albania (3.6 billion annually). Kosovo will, in 2026, have similar exports as Minth Group based in Sabac and Loznica (absolute shithole, 3rd tier cities in Serbia) (4000 people). They are actively building another factory in Loznica (600 employees) and a humanoid robot factory in Sabac, 220 people. After that, in near future, they are building 2220 man factory in Indjija (another shithole city), then 1800 in Cuprija (shithole city), then 1000 people in Leskovac. With this trajectory, they are set to have 2x bigger exports than Kosovo in 2030. Just this one company.

Belgrade has higher exports than Albania and Kosovo combined, and Novi Sad's (200k people) ICT exports alone are higher than the exports of Kosovo or Albania

You do realize Albania is comparable to wartime Ukraine, right? Despite no wars.
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>>545020567
Russian gas covers more than 80% of Serbia's needs. Sanctions would mean an immediate economic shock, not merely a 'change of foreign policy course.'

The presence of pro-Russian figures and a media backdrop does not mean that the Serbian government acts on orders. Vulin was excluded from the new cabinet in 2025. If 'subordination' were total, such a reshuffle would be unlikely or would have required sanctions from Moscow. The very fact of the rotation points rather to internal struggle and the limited nature of influence than to direct dictation.
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>>545022519
Vulin is a traitorous half gypsy half Bulgarian asset of Russia, no one cares about that moron and he's nothing anymore.
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>>545021997
Amen to that brother, unironically the level of retardation my uncle wrote after writing "congrats on the win" to me. Said within a few months serbia will recognise kosovo, vojvodina will become independent, sandzak independent, preševo area independent, sanctions from USA Russia China, and that we will have to return bilions that were given to us (aluding to outsiders giving us finaces) and im like bro we were stingy about the price of garbage bags. All pensions will be gone work everything will stop, sure bro sure. And a few hours later asked for help with moving some stuff and giving him a ride to the village house. I cant with this amount of brainwashing Vucic and Informer has done.
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>>545022557
>half gypsy half Bulgarian
i didn't know he was from Vranje
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>>545022505
Just because me and the guy on the street both like coffee and speak the same language doesn't mean we wont fight.
Ethnos fights because we carry different names and we want more power, not over things we have in common or not.
Is it that complicated?
>>545022570
Retards.
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>>545022616
His mother is a literal gypsy, his dad half Bulgarian.
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>>545021318
>Russia never exported alot of fuel, they export crude and just refine fuel mostly for domestic use.
In 2025, exports of petroleum products amounted to 114 million tons (about 2.37 million barrels per day) - the second-highest figure in the world. That is not 'small' by any measure.

You contrast crude oil exports with refining 'for domestic use' as if Russia were choosing between them. In reality, the Russian model is structured differently: a significant portion of oil is both exported as raw material and refined, with the resulting refined products then exported. This is not an alternative but a combined strategy.
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>>545022557
My father used to be with Vulin and I think was in the socialist party he founded or some shit like that back in the day then when he realised he is a gypsy who is not a real communist insulted him and never looked back. He said he has insane complexes.
Though my father is basically a nationalist that thinks he is a communist.
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>>545022638
isn't his mom from Kosovo? isn't his (legal) dad from central Bosnia? not many Bulgarians or "macedonians" there
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>>545022458
>Mudslime rapefugee

Real Americans should be ashamed, Serbia and US were allies for 2 centuries.

>Serbian flag the only foreign flag to be holstered at the white house besides the French flag

>Us even had a Serbian day
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>>545022723
I don't know where his mom is from nor care, she's a literal Roma. His dad is half Bulgarian, but yes the other half lived in Bosnia.
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>>545019329
lolol, this is true, in a parallel dimension
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>>545022740
they literally threw out Serbs (and all other Slavic immigrants) after ww1 due to not WASPs
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>>545022826
If you knew anything about Serbian history you would know that if you didn't count our Serbs from Montenegro as Serb then our heroes could be counted on one hand.
Open up ancestry of any general or a rebel leader or some local hero and 99% chance he is gonna be from Serb Montenegro.
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>>545022810
>angelina, born milovanov
damn, i guess i'm with the students now
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>>545022888
sure bro, milogorci are the biggest serbs on the planet
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>>545022860
>The United States did not throw out or abandon Serbs after World War I; instead, the U.S. strongly supported the Serbian people and officially recognized the newly formed Kingdom of Serbs, Croats, and Slovenes in February 1919.
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>>545022913
>every Serb from Montenegro is a milogorac bro trust me!
Most people here have paternal ancestry from Montenegro retard.
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>>545022860
WWI Alliance: The U.S. and Serbia were close wartime allies. President Woodrow Wilson even proclaimed July 28, 1918, as "Serbian Day" across the United States to honor Serbian resistance and sacrifice
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>>545022915
>The United States passed laws that heavily restricted immigration from Eastern and Southern Europe, which included Slavic populations, though the restrictions were structured as national origin quotas rather than explicit single-group bans.

>Key Legislation

>• Emergency Quota Act of 1921: This temporary law capped annual immigration from any single country at 3% of that nationality's U.S. population as recorded in the 1910 census. This formula was designed to slow down the large waves of immigrants arriving from Southern and Eastern Europe.
>• Immigration Act of 1924 (Johnson-Reed Act): This permanent law lowered the cap to 2% of each nationality's U.S. population and shifted the baseline back to the 1890 census. Because very few people from Southern and Eastern Europe lived in the U.S. in 1890—before the peak of Slavic, Italian, and Jewish immigration—the 1890 baseline severely slashed quotas for those regions by over 80% while heavily favoring Northern and Western Europe.
>• Literacy Tests (1917 Immigration Act): Congress introduced a mandatory literacy test for immigrants over the age of 16, which was similarly intended to filter out incoming populations from regions with lower literacy rates at the time.

>Context and Motivation

>• Nativism and Eugenics: Lawmakers and nativist groups pushed for these restrictions using pseudo-scientific eugenics and racial theories. They categorized Southern and Eastern Europeans—including Slavic groups, Italians, and Greeks—as distinct and less desirable races compared to Anglo-Saxons and Nordics.
>• End of the Quota System: The national origins quota system remained in place for decades until it was finally abolished by the
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>>545022684
>Though my father is basically a nationalist that thinks he is a communist
Its the same thing. Dont apply western politics here
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>>545022965
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbian_campaign_(1914)
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>>545022954
obviously you don't know who andrej milovic is, retard
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>>545021396
I care about the interest of my own country and I care about its sovereignty.

> You only carining about Russia but not EU,
What the FUCK did I write 2 posts ago you stupid fucking nigger? You're either fucking trolling or you have the attention span of a goldfish.
Anyway if you want to suck Russian cock, at least there's plenty in Belgrade now kek.
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>>545022519
Bunch of cope. If he said what he said about Russia towards a western nation you’d be frothing at the mouth demanding blood for being “””le vassal state”””
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>>545022915
>gemini summary
Johnson Reed act
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>>545022980
Yes, that's quite different from "kicking out". It simply limited immigrants who were not from NW Europe to a certain percentage. You still had people coming, like Tesla.
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>>545019329
Thanks Serbia.
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>>545023066
.... Has nothing to do with kicking out
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>>545023091
yeah, braindrain, how noble
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>>545022519
If it were up to me I'd rather go back to burning wood for heating than zigger gas.

>The presence of pro-Russian figures and a media backdrop does not mean that the Serbian government acts on orders
You're not even denying it, you're just not happy that they're subservient enough.

>Vulin was excluded from the new cabinet in 2025
Vulin is one of hundreds.

>If 'subordination' were total,
Never claimed it was. Vucic is a whore for Russia but not for Russia exclusively. You stealing and lying niggers from abroad got to fight over getting the best bite out of Serbia.
Which is fucking ironic considering you're gonna end up cleaning toilets in Novi Beograd to dodge the draft kek.
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>>545019329
Cool
Anyway
Let's move on
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>>545022954
No they don't. That is a lie to claim Serbs aren't native to the regions they live in. monteniggers should fuck off to their mountains.
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>>545023006
So-so. Depends on what person says and does. He is a nationalist because he is not a thief, he went to war and doesn't have values of a gypsy.
Communist ideology is a crime against the mind but south Slavs have this mode where they will be self-proclaimed Christians or commies but actually are not really either and represent rather just a rough cut of a south Slav that larps.

At the same time we are ideologues that have done crime against Serbs for the name of communism but on the other hand we are not really communists. I think all of those hardline ideologues were a minority.
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Even today you have a lot of Serbs there proportionally speaking, Belgrade in USA (I believe Montana?) Is named after Belgrade in Serbia due to investors of the railway being from Serbia.

Ohio and Serbia are sister states, they do cultural exchange every year and military drills between the Serbian army and the Ohio State Guard

Picrel Serbs in Ohio
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>>545021774
>And was Rugova wrong? If one side plays timid while Milosevic starts beating people up and we start shitting on the Albanians from all angles, then of course it will cause a MASSIVE SURGE in support of KLA.
I mean yeah it was good for us. Sure
>Do you think NATO phoned Milosevic and told them they won't invade? No, they BLUFFED and successfully so.
They were discussing it publically and france publically said no.
I do know Milosevic believed NATO was bluffing to the bombing at least. I saw someone here years ago type about how he even questioned the reports of bombs as they hit Belgrade.

Why he surrendered, idk. Maybe he thought he pulled of a stroke of geopolitical genius because he got on "paper" that kosovo is still Serbian, but with no control ofc. Or maybe it was because Yelstin encouraged him too. Who knows. What I do know, is that most of the Kosovo stuff from you guys is just a LARP.
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>>545023042
Why did you cut out US and Israel from the quote?
Fuck off shill.
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>>545023216
>I saw someone here years ago type about how he even questioned the reports of bombs as they hit Belgrade.
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>>545023184
UK

Let's not move on? For actual stats, see >>545021185
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>>545023228
Suck my cock (and not Ivan's) you traitorous little prekodrinigger cumsock.
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>>545023111
sure, neither does ICE, the weren't kicked out they were temporary workers
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>>545023184
Albania
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>>545021774
>You're not retarded mindless terminators, again such caricatures are pointless. Now that everything is over we really hate each other so it is more accurate, but we could have played our hand better to some extent. And that would have been worse for us because I don't want you inside Serbia.
You don't need to tell me that you are nuanced, I can tell. And I don't want to congratulate you on it, as objectively Serbs viewing us as one dimensional like the spammer or>>545021822
benefits us in the long run.
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>>545023193
Thats basicaly how politics works everywhere. People tend to cherry pick aspect of a ideology that they like. Some more some less. Thats why you ca have a commie serb that killed serbs for not being a commie whilr symutaniously have a Serb commie whos a turbo nationalist and see vcommunism as a form of "Serb helpd Serbs" movement.
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>>545023184
Slovakia
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>>545023281
Says the kike dog. Wheres your foreskin golem?
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>>545023184
Croatia
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>>545023042
It is alright to not like Russia and treat them as a foreign agent but you should care about hating them because it turns the individual into some homosexual, just look at Poles.
I mean after all you know in 1948 we made a choice to not serve USSR so while I will write pro-Russian posts, you know Serbs will maintain friendly but respectful distance to Russia while anti-Russian terminators like Poles will be their biggest servants who will follow them to Antarctica if the commisar wills it, like they armed Vietnam, North Korea and attacked Czechs in Prague.
We aren't really looking to be a Russian vassal state as Russians have plenty of those like Poland, Finland, Baltic nations.
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>>545023281
>prekodrinigger
whiter than you gipsy montenigger
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>>545023325
>>545023184
Albania
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>>545023406 but smrds love serving Russians as You are literal second class citizens in Your own countries, Russians occupy all best areas of Your capital
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>>545019329
Russia started WWI being responsible for Serbia having 60% of ALL their men killed.
Russia tried to invade the Balkans raped every woman and child they could find and tried to make balkanmonkeys their puppets but Tito fought against it.
Russia in the Yugoslavia wars gave weapon aid to Croatia while not giving a shit about Russia.
Serbians volunteers in the Ukrainian war get humiliated and called gypsies from their great Russian friends.

Either serbians have a cuckold fetish and love the humiliation or their 90IQ roach brain is not smart enough to realize that Russia never did anything positive for serbians ever.
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>>545023184
Albania
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>>545023328
It is okay as right as they are near the mark.
Nuanced person A who can explain his philosophy is the same as non-nuanced person B usually called a simple idiot if both persons love their country and will go to the trench.
However, I try to maintain understanding of my enemies because it promotes less hatred, and it is less likely for me to do crimes against Albanians and remind myself that humans exist everywhere, as immorality rapes you from the inside.
Writing that someone is a subhuman to be eradicated just because he merely exists kills you from the inside. I don't seek any congratulations.
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>>545019329
So what about Srpska and natural resources? Will the nationalize the mines finally?
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>>545020567
nah, it's a good thing
biggest threat to Serbian territorial integrity is NATO, why would Serbia support NATO wannabees?
and Serbia should, though not openly, support Russia if it means pushing NATO westwards
other than that, Ukrainians are Russians in denial, just like Bosnians, Croats and Montenegrins are Serbs in denial, it's counter productive for Serbia to have any kind of support for these pseudo identities, whether here or in east Europe
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>>545023504
seethe mohamad
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>>545023447 whitest Serb, why do they always worship these goblin-looking things?
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>>545023504
>Russia is responsible for WW1
Ursula von der Layen fanfic.
>Russia tried to invade the Balkans raped every woman and child they could find and tried to make balkanmonkeys their puppets but Tito fought against it.
They did not rape every woman and child, but they did some crimes and we are very well aware of that.
However, that was the 3rd Ukrainian front army in which many non-Russians served.
I do not hold it against hte Belarussians, Ukrainians or Russians, these are barbaric individuals. Every people are capable of barbarism.
Nevertheless, in the end without USSR we would be under German boot and probably assimilated or killed eventually. Even though USSR initially cooperated with the nazis.
>Russia in the Yugoslavia wars gave weapon aid to Croatia while not giving a shit about Russia.
Correct, but that was the American occupation under American advisors., they would never do such a bad thing obviously, totally.
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>>545023570
Croats are not Serbs. Serbs and Croats were the two West Slavic tribes that migrated to Balkans and conquered it, Bulgars were a Turkic tribe (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulgars) whose Slavic admixture is predominantly from Serbs and Croats.

Modern day Serbs and Croats are genetically a mixture of their respective Western Slavic tribes mixing with Paleo-balkaners, as well as Ukrainian migration to the Balkans

By doing so, they bleached the peninsula at their expense, since paleo-balkan and Anatolians were no different in how brown they are.

(White means West geographically for Slavs)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Serbia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Croatia

By claiming that, you delegitimize the point in regards to Muslims and milogovna
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>>545023621
Meanwhile Belgrade classroom
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>>545023621
That's a wood elf, stop insulting our Arch-Mage
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>>545023396
Nigga I voted for the option that will stop arming Israel kek, but keep thinking about my delicious foreskin if you want to.

>>545023406
>It is alright to not like Russia and treat them as a foreign agent but you should care about hating them
I don't hate Russians (who are largely victims), I hate the Russian government.

>you know Serbs will maintain friendly but respectful distance to Russia
We're not maintaining distance if we're allowing meddling and then defending it online. Just wake up nigger.
You're afraid to say the truth because it's popular to suck Russian cock over real historic ties and largely meme UNSC support for kosovo. This is intellectual cowardice. You're afraid to say the truth. That's what it is.

>>545023447
I'm just saying that to out them because they're self-conscious about it. People should be proud of where they're from.

>>545023570
>biggest threat to Serbian territorial integrity is NATO,
No it isn't, and Serbia is practically in NATO without being in NATO. You should not open your mouth on the topic of Serbia-NATO relations if you had not read the contents of IPAP and PfP agreements. I keep bringing this up in Serbia threads on /pol/ because you fucking RETARDS don't know basic facts about your own political stance (being anti-NATO).

>and Serbia should, though not openly, support Russia
Serbia should support Serbia and that's it. If you think otherwise, you're my enemy working against my interest (but the flag already gave that away).
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>Serbians volunteers in the Ukrainian war get humiliated and called gypsies from their great Russian friends.
Okay for real now Beric's squad are craiyon eaters and Beric himself is a thief, there are Serbs in other Russian units doing just fine.
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>>545023638
>Vatikan propaganda that devised a alt history so Croats (Serbs) would more willingly accepts Catholicism but telling them they are totally different and super duper better then them orthodox.
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>>545023679
>No it isn't, and Serbia is practically in NATO without being in NATO. You should not open your mouth on the topic of Serbia-NATO relations if you had not read the contents of IPAP and PfP agreements. I keep bringing this up in Serbia threads on /pol/ because you fucking RETARDS don't know basic facts about your own political stance (being anti-NATO).
muh russia was in pfp, hence russia is PRACTICALLY NATO
average "student" intelligence
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>>545023679
>You're afraid to say the truth because it's popular to suck Russian cock over real historic ties and largely meme UNSC support for kosovo. This is intellectual cowardice. You're afraid to say the truth. That's what it is.
IT's not largely meme bro it's international law or something.
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>>545023737
Stop being schizo.
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>>545023621
the boomers are genuinely mindbroken by commies, and the the rat phenotype is the most likely to go into politics
Thankfully, the 50k Russians and Ukrainians currently in Belgrade might help Serbia's terrible demographics, I hope more came here.
>>545023666
>Belgrade classroom
yeah, because their parents and grandparents are from here
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>>545023751
>muh russia was in pfp
WAS, nigger, WAS. Also READ FUCKING IPAP AND WHAT IT MEANS FOR SERBIA

>average "student" intelligence
I graduated more than a decade ago you retarded memeflag faggot.

>>545023761
It is a meme, it doesn't change the facts on the ground and it doesn't cost Russia anything to do it.
You simply can't say 1 true thing, can you? You look at whatever I wrote and you wrote that it's the opposite.
Stupid fucking nigger.
Is 2+2 10 because I say it's 4?
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>>545023785 if You think Russians in Belgrade look at You as anything more than servants like vampires look upon gypsies You need to wakey-wakey up
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>>545023785
Nah it's just Slav vs paleo-balkan admix. (Bulgarians and albanigs larping as Serbs)

Even in this pic, you can see who's actually Serbian and who's a Paleobalkan monkey larping as a Serb
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Russian flag is kani btw, pedophile on proxies, he's not actually Russian.
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>>545023843
>if You think Russians in Belgrade look at You as anything more than servants
I don't give a shit what the shitty discount store cashier perceives me as kek
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>>545022197
And most civilians killed by NATO were in Kosovo, and ethnically Albanian. The Serb army was unscaffed by the bombing and suffered more to guerrilla attacks by the KLA than they did to NATO bombs. The civilian Albanian population in Kosovo suffered more to NATO bombs than the Serbian population of Yugoslavia.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/serb-army-unscathed-by-nato-kla-killed-more-serbs-than-nato-nato-did-1101448.html
The reason you surrendered is because as a collective you just aren't about it blud.
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DESTE PICHKE
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>>545023204
Nigga there are like 10 Belgrades in USA.
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>>545023839
I am being ironic but yes Putin continued Yeltsin politics towards us but pays a better lip service and has better propaganda angles in our society.
I am not stupid to see that. But really Russians at best can be seen as not friends and a state iwth their own interests (that is bad at exercising them), which is why I spend 100 posts hating other powers for every 1 post where I shit on Russia.
Russia did us less historical damage than the west. It's simple.
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>>545023900
It's a pedophile (kani), he's using the pedo proxy site (google unrealskybox kiwi farms)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oddU7f3AuRY
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>>545023908
Male team (good average of all Serbian regions including the swarthiest in the south)
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School sports competition in Vojvodina and celebration of Serbian Olympics culture
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>>545023637
>Russians did all those things yes but Russians dindu nuffings since it was their masters who forced them to do those things
And you monkeys ended under our boots anyway. Half of your country works in Austria and Germany and every Serbian girl of good age works as a prostitute here.
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>>545023940
Plus the average westerner has bad opinion of Serbia because uhh DEMOCRACY and other retarded buzzwords while the average Russian is either neutral, doesn't give a fuck or friendly.
There is simply less maliciousness.
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>>545023839
>IPAP AND WHAT IT MEANS FOR SERBIA
it means shit because we said we'll never join nato and will remain neutral
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>>545023843
I don't give a fuck what they think, the ones I met and talked to were very nice (and one Kazakh girl was a qt3.14), they are Orthodox Slavs whose kids will consider themselves Serbs, if Serbia can integrate any immigrant population, it's them. Also, most of them work remotely for western companies so they contribute to the economy.
>>545023925
i like her more after than, big dick energy
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>>545020174
Nope, Kosovo is Serbia
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>>545023945
>pedophile
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>>545023940
They did us less historical damage because they COULDN'T, we had over 2000 armed incidents with the Soviet Union while we were Yugoslavia, they fucking tried. They WOULD HAVE if they COULD HAVE.
But REGARDLESS, there is NO REASON to let them DO DAMAGE TODAY. DO NOT FUCKING ARGUE THIS.

>>545024061
Read the fucking document you stupid fucking nigger, put it in your stupid fucking only friend, Claude, and have him regurgitate it to you.
Retarded fucking nigger. We ceded all sovereignty to NATO. We're NATO's WILLING bitches for all intents and purposes and that's what the paper says.
But you are so fucking ignorant and stuck in your stupid nigger Večernje novosti/NDSS omladina bubble/Boško Obradović fanclub bubble and fucking willfully ignorant of the basic facts you need to know in order to get anything done.
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>>545022158
Bosnian Serbs from republika srpska have the most Slavic admixture in the Balkans, and share it with Belarus for #1
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>>545024199
>>545024240
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>>545022004
Soros is not anti-Israel. Everything he does is in service of international jewry (a rotting carcass that's still spreading disease).
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>>545024166
>Retarded fucking nigger. We ceded all sovereignty to NATO. We're NATO's WILLING bitches for all intents and purposes and that's what the paper says.
>But you are so fucking ignorant and stuck in your stupid nigger Večernje novosti/NDSS omladina bubble/Boško Obradović fanclub bubble and fucking willfully ignorant of the basic facts you need to know in order to get anything done.
it absolutely means SHIT and no amount of your seething can change it. you signed all nato shit in the period 2006-2011 and since then absolute shit was done to take next step and the only response was neutrality.
similar goes for eu crap.
maybe your new croat "student" government will try to unblock it, good luck
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>>545024148
Then why does Fyromania recognize Kosovo?
Then why did "Macedonia" allow NATO troops to enter its borders and coordinate the bombing campaign from there?
Why did you kill Aleksandar, despite the fact he liberated you from 500 years of turkish rule and gave you land rights?
Don't act like an ally Trajce, it's over between us.
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>>545022158
Stanivukovic is a faggot and no one wanted to vote for anyone associated with him
we have the same ordeal with Dodik like Serbia has with Vucic but ten times worse, loans that cannot be repayed are taken while state companies like the forestry or coal power plant are going bankrupt
our opposition parties are subconsciously controlled opposition, we've had 10% of people show up on streets, but then opposition party members show up, infiltrate and pacify, not to mention they all fly from one party to another
I'm telling you political parties need to be banned, every candidate needs to represent himself and his own beliefs, and not hide behind party lines or some fake ass patriotism and wait to get a seat in the parliament or some municipality council or some sit on ass position position in the government like minister of tourism or minister of traffic
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>>545024314
retarded ćaci nigger thinks he's anti-NATO while carrying water for pro-NATO policy and promoting willful ignorance so that NOTHING EVER GETS DONE
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>>545024350
Because they have an Albanian minority and at the same time KLA was doing terrorism in Kosovo, they were also doing it in Macedonia, Albanians are like roaches and they're everywhere
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>>545024350
>Why did you kill Aleksandar, despite the fact he liberated you from 500 years of turkish rule and gave you land rights?
Zainichi Bulgarians sir.
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>>545024407
>they're everywhere
except Albania
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>>545024387
>carrying water for pro-NATO policy
lol, you're an idiot
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>>545024431
kek
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>>545024382
>but then opposition party members show up, infiltrate and pacify, not to mention they all fly from one party to another
Same as it was here until the canopy fell and they decided to jerk off on the victims and beat the protestors instead of not doing that.
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>>545024382
You guys don't understand economics (you I mean everyone in this region). Your loans are meaningless because we can bail you out. Loans are a good thing because you can let inflation work in your favor. As long as you're below 60% debt to GDP ratio, it's a good thing because the GDP grows faster than the interest rate, and inflation works in your favor.

Serbia has 40%, and it also has 40 billion in gold reserves, meaning it can pay off 95% of the debt if it needed to, but it doesn't, it's a good thing and eu average is above 60%.

Croatia has like 60% and Slovenia around the same amount, and in 2021 Croatia had it at 110%.
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>>545020892
Brown DNA
goatfucker, catfucker, all the same
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>>545024382
Stanivukovic made Banjaluka nicer, I have to admit.
Dodik already controls all of Srpska, he has 80 companies to his name, very few young people remain, the boomers just collect their government paychecks/pensions and money from their kids working abroad, so they don't care.
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>>545024431
Lol, pretty much

there are 7-10 MILLION ALBANIANS in the world, ONLY 2 MILLION LIVE IN ALBANIA

ABOUT 20% OF THE 10 MILLION LIVE IN TURKEY

SWITZERLAND IS 6.6% ALBANIAN DUE TO RAPEFUGEESRAPEFUGEE

THERE ARE 50K TURKS IN KOSOVO, MORE IF YOU COUNT ASSIMILATED

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albanians
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albanians_in_Turkey
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>>545024548
>Stops posting for almost a year when the pedo proxy site dies
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>>545024526
This is some turbo kike speach. Do you know what GDP even is and how little it benefits tge average person?
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In other words, nothing will change.
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>>545019329
>politician says he will do something

POBEDA! POBEDA! POBEDA!
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>>545024715
>Turbo kike speech

So take it as correct, it's been the case since medieval ages.
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>>545024350
Because we force them to as we are their masters. We also made them join NATO and change their name to "North Macedonia"
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>>545023547
our natural resources are not private to begin with, though most of them are not exploited, except coal and lumber
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>>545024526
yeah, retards can't into math
A. guy owes 10k euros on a 100 euros pay
B. guy owes 20k on a 3k pay
retards: A is twice as well off financially than B
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>>545024431
Maybe the great powers should not have divided our land then.
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>>545024788
>The irony

Do you understand the numbers I gave is debt to GDP, i.e. they factor in how much someone (state) has.

Even if it were up to the average citizen to pay it off, it'd end up being 2000$ per person, or 2 monthly salaries, but that is not how economics work. Croatia also has a smaller gold reserve than Serbia
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>>545024382
>>545024538
>t. himzo i hamzo
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>>545024773
I mean you are not wrong, but I want to root out tht evil, not submit to it. Even if its temorarely benifitial, the one who always wins is the banks, aka kikes.
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>>545024788
>>545024851
>>545024526
A 40% debt to GDP ratio means you own 40% of what the country produces in a year economically
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>>545024851
which is why i said YEAH you blind retard
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>>545024936
Ah my bad
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>>545024889
>himzo supports the guy that made a giant monument to falled Serb soldiers and a statue to Knez Lazar and Tvrtko as a Serbian king
sure
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>>545024538
>Stanivukovic made Banjaluka nicer, I have to admit.
I haven't been there but I've been to Sarajevo and RS just looks nicer overall everywhere. But apperantly RS is the one that leeches from FBiH or something.
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>>545023638
true Croats live in north Croatia alongside the Slovenian border, they speak some kajkavian chakavian drool that is more similar to Slovenian than to Serbian
rest are both linguistically and genetically Serbs, but they chose the label Croat because they are catholics
t. quarter Croat
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>>545025140
RS looks nice, also has much better nature, the mountains are beautiful
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>>545025140
>RS is the one that leeches from FBiH or something.
you're joking
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>>545025253
That's what some Serbs from RS said here and that's the narrative of the muslims. I haven't looked into it.
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>>545024648 it never went down stupid fucking retard, really what is it with smrds and constant larp about shit they know nothing of?
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>>545019949
Shut up American
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>>545025285
>that's the narrative of the muslims
no shit
>That's what some Serbs from RS said here
yeah, himzo and hamzo
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>>545020558
Fuck you. You fuxking Asian shitbag.
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>>545025155
>t. quarter Croat
satan, i bet you even took their citizenship
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>>545025285
Muslim entity can't give them as much money as Belgrade can. Belgrade alone has a higher GDP than entire Bosnia, and Serbia has a 4 times higher GDP than entire Bosnia (5 times if RS is counted as Serbia and not Bosnia)

Belgrade recently started funding southern Serbia, when historically almost all money went to Belgrade, now it's the other way around. I imagine we also still send a lot of money to RS
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>>545025155
70% of Croats are Hercegovnian
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>>545025388
Kek, why are you crying and getting emotional? Spur.us killed it, now you have significantly less proxies to burn through. It's all on kiwifarms
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>>545025462
>when historically almost all money went to Belgrade
lol, you're an idiot. belgrade generates like 40% of serbian gdp
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>>545020993
You offered them your own children to rape. How could Bill Clinton resist?
Bomb Tirana. Kill All Albanians Worldwide
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>>545025513
I didn't say otherwise. I said that historically, Vojvodina funded belgrade, and southern Serbia was completely neglected.

Now it's the other way around - Belgrade funds both. Especially considering Vojvodina (richest region in Yugoslavia before Yugoslavia, richer than slovenia and all of eastern Europe except for Czechia and Hungary) and the NATO bombings which caused $40-100 billion 1999 USD or $80-200 billion 2026 USD

>The number of factories moved from Serbia to western Yugoslav republics is between 70 and 76, according to texts published in contemporary media.[3] The destination of moved Serbian industry were primarily the republics of Croatia and Slovenia, followed by Bosnia and Herzegovina and Montenegro, while some industry ended up in Albania.[4]

>The moved industry included aircraft production and heavy vehicle production.

>Since many new destinations for the Serbian industry were much closer to Soviet-controlled territories, i.e. Maribor in Slovenia or Varaždin in Croatia, than their original locations in Serbia, many authors concluded that the real reason for moving Serbian industries out of Serbia was not fear of Soviet invasion but communist intention to punish Serbian nationalists

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relocation_of_Serbian_industry_during_the_Informbiro_period
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>>545021242
Then you wont mind that that it if I say every Albanian should be worked to death. Worked how? I dont know since Albanians can't do shit right.
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>>545021253
Urusla used to be so hot. Like 80% Natalia Poklonskaya.
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>>545025586
The money goes from Vojvodina to Belgrade, then Belgrade distributes funds to Vojvodina. It's a point of contention.
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>>545022505
No, Serbs have legit Turkish rape dna while Albanians do not. It’s been proven countless times with genetic science and archeologenetics. Serbs are insane rape mutts squatting and stealing land.
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>>545019329
They'll steal more money from you than Vucic did lol. Soon enough, you'll be reminiscing about Vucic's days as the good old times. It's almost like you already reminisce about Milosevic and Tito as the good old times.
If you want a better example of your future, look at Magyar in Hungary. He's singlehandedly destroying his country's economy and bowing down to Brussels, when Orban spent decades to raise GDP after the 1990s economic collapse.
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>>545025680
That's how the budget works yes, but Vojvodina receives more than it gives now, and Belgrade produces the vast majority.

Southern Serbia is by far the smallest contributor, but it has been somewhat reindustrialized recently
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>>545025728
So much gypsies in Serbia that they have visible Indian phenotypes among Serbs now because of mixing. No such phenotype in Albanians.
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>>545025728
Albanians are the real europeans while the rest are northasian migrations
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Same guy as EU memeflag here itt
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>>545025850
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>>545025819
Serbs have a complex yet retarded history. They’re giga-mutt cucks and their name comes from an Iranian tribe.
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>>545019329
Liking the anti-kike anti-IsNotRael move.
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>>545025850
>>545025868
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>>545025877
Google search debunks all Albanian lies in 0.2s, no relation between sarbans and Serbs genetically, historically or linguistically.

>There is no genetic , linguistic, or historical connection
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>Dua lipa shows off her natural beauty without makeup

>pure black hair
>Mena eyebrows
>Pure dark eyes
>Females have lighter features than males

.

https://www.dailymail.com/tvshowbiz/article-14621283/Dua-Lipa-takeaway-London-world-tour.html
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>>545025959
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>>545025577
What are you talking about? Old testamentarily murdering your own children is a Serbian tradition. Here the former head of Serbian intelligence admits they paid a Serbian thug to murder 6 Serb teens and blame it on Albanians.
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>>545025586
agree, but the same way you don't expect belgrade to talk about the rest of serbia "leeching it" same should go for the rest of the regions. some have agriculture, some have mines, some are financial and it centers. the constant narrative of the exploited vojvodina is a separatist trash.
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>>545025891
Just for show. Jews have always supported Serbia, since their “independence, since the Balkan wars, since the world wars and since the Yugoslav wars.
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>>545025959
>>545025980
What's the difference between her, a paleo Balkan Albanian and this Turkish foid celeb dating a Serbian celeb? Nothing except the Turkish foid is more tanned, there was no difference prior to Slavic migrations and bleaching the Paleo Balkan monkeys. And those paleo-balkan monkeys are now 40% of all Serbian ethnicity - nevermind nationality
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>>545025926
Too bad this exists lool
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>>545024526
shut the fuck up, you liberal retard, you're trying to down play it while Ugljevik stopped working like a weak ago and we now have to import power from the cantons and Serbia, there are already talks of increasing the power bill by 50%
it's not that we don't understand long term loans, it's that they didn't achieve anything and only greased some pockets, oh but the taxpayer sure will pay them
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>>545026003
LOL memeflag lying again, Israel supported KLA

>Meanwhile, Sa’ar described Albania as a true friend of Israel, citing their historical ties and shared moral values. He recalled how Albanian families sheltered and saved Jews during the Holocaust, praising the country’s tradition of solidarity.

The Israeli minister also welcomed Albania’s support for Israel after the October 7 attacks and its opposition to Hamas terrorism.
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>>545025819
Ancient result from a guy that may or may not be Phillip II, notice how Serbs do not have a single drop of this guys blood despite “Kosovo being serbia”…?
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>>545025511 I am simply pointing out that You have no idea what You are talking about, which is evident. This shitty site burning through hundreds of thousands just to kill its own user base is playing exactly into what I have always wanted for it—the user count keeps dropping & they are unable to do anything about even a singular entity such as myselfy, let alone llm faggot band spam-bots. Kindly stop pretending to know anything just because You have read about some fantasy on a circle-jerk web sites, You keep proving how gullible & stupid You really are. 4cuck, You, llm-faggots can all just accept to suck my fat white horse cock as there is nothing You can do to stop me from being free, stay brown, stupid smrd.
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>>545026029
That's just vlachs lolol
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>>545026029
Autosomal >>545025805
Maternal picrel
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>>545026066
Israel was strongly against the bombings of Serbia because it threatened them (because they don’t want to be bombed for their chimpouts as well). Serbs played crucial roll in chimping out to start ww1, a Jewish war.
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>>545026154
It’s not otherwise Albanians would have it, south Albanians have some because of slavshit dna. It came with your ancestors, not indigenous. It came from Pakistan.
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>>545026117
Clustering close is due to a similar broad ratio of Early European Farmer (EEF) and Western Steppe Herder (WSH) ancestry. It does not mean they have your genes (they don't, there's no descendant correlation between Hellenes, Romans and you)

>The Slavic Shift: Modern Western Balkan populations (such as Croats, Serbs, and Bosnians) experienced a massive genetic shift during the 6th–7th century due to Slavic migrations, which brought heavy Northern European-like ancestry. This pulled modern Balkanites "northward" on PCA plots

>The Italian Exception: Northern Italy did not receive significant Slavic input, nor did it receive the heavy post-Iron Age Eastern Mediterranean/North African admixture seen in Southern Italy. Because Northern Italians remained relatively stable on the European genetic cline, they mathematically "mirror" what Central Europe and the Northern Balkans looked like before the Slavic migrations.
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>>545026232
South Albanians have it and it's literally a vlach heat map, confirmable by google in 0.2s, it's also only 2%, other 1% is just a Montenegrin tribe that's also paleo-balkan
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>>545026172
Barely proves anything, anything above 0.10 is classified as totally unrelated in genetics science. A two digit boon rapebaby wouldn’t get this type of science. Meanwhile, Serbs barely related to Ancient Rome.
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>>545026308
>Related
As explained in >>545026238

You have nothing to do with Rome, just like Austrians aren't Serbs because theres the same 0.036 distance.
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>>545026300
South Albanians have it because 18% have slavshit YDNA so the Iranian dna comes with it. Gheg Albanians, ie real Albanians do not have this Iranian gene. Yours is not 2% but 4% which is noticeable and proves you originally came from sarbania.
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Albanians in their entire history at Olympics: 2 medals, India tier

Slovenia, same population, independence for 30 years: 58
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>>545026337
Nope, Ancient Rome had Albanian YDNA.
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>>545026408
Serbs won more medals last Olympics in tennis, basketball and shooting than Albanians in their history LOL, Jeet tier peoples
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>>545026337
Austrians have slavshit dna that’s obvious. Serbs barely have any Hellenic or Roman autosomal relations.
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>>545026435
Ancient Rome was a mutt land where actual Romans made up around 5% of the population at its peak, and where slave trade was prominent everywhere. There are no reasonable amounts of Paleo balkan (not Albanian since Albanians were just one swarthy oaleobalkan tribe out of hundreds) Y-DNA and there is no descendant connection between the two in either direction.
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>>545026508
Learn to read, it says 950 bc not 200 ad. The fact that gene is there proves as much that Albanians and early Romans came from the same ancestors.
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>>545026501
Again, the only reason you have to wewuzz larp with unrelated genetic distances is because you have no history of your own lol
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>>545025285
srpska has it's own budget while cantons have their own
there are joint institutions where srpska tries not to participate like national tv or the armed forces, but otherwise there isn't some budget above the entities + district where either srpska or cantons could leech from
>>545025446
nah grampa did it because of revenge because the rest of the his family died in the camps, dad fought in slavonia and couldn't for a long time cross into croatia
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>>545026561
0.037 is very much related, 0.097 is totally unrelated. You see, you’re quite literally a retard.
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>>545026557
That's again just tied to bronze age and iron age migrations, and no, it doesn't mean that, only 3% of Italians have that anyway.
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>>545019329
I don’t understand Serbian politics but that sounds based if true.
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>>545026628
>dad fought in slavonia and couldn't for a long time cross into croatia
My father couldn't either but afaik he still can't enter Bosnia, but I don't know the reason, only misheard this. Find it pretty weird because I thought regular volunteers are not tracked? Is it some unit-level interpol sentence?
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>>545026639
0.037 is not very much related, same way Serbs and Austrians are not very much related. And the reasons for the "relation" are explained here >>545026238
>Clustering close is due to a similar broad ratio of Early European Farmer (EEF) and Western Steppe Herder (WSH) ancestry. It does not mean they have your genes (they don't, there's no descendant correlation between Hellenes, Romans and you)
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>>545019329
i am always very cynical about these things. you are telling me the "students" got together like the avengers and threw out evil chucic fully organically? might be so, but something reeks.
>>545020567
dude NATO mutilated your country, sticking close to the russians is a national security gurantee

I do wish westoids changed their attitudes towards the serbs, they should just hand over kosovo in exchange for peace upon the continent forever but they seem really keen on propping up a subhuman analbanian meme-state for some reason
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>>545026703
Here comes the cope. The Romans came to Italy during the late Bronze Age…
>only 3% of Italians have that
More like 5%, similar to how you have 4% Iranian DNA.
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>>545026759
Due to that same reason, Sardinians end up with the following
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>>545026724
But surely you understand if you join the EU you get the opposite of that?
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>>545026795
Well, if that's Iranian dna, it would simply mean vlachs have what you have as well in the south, and what 80% of your main admixture is anyway (near eastern)

See >>545026004
>>545025980
>>545025959

Eyes don't lie
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>>545026759
Same serbooon says 0.037 is unrelated yet posts Albanian and slavshit autosomal dna with closet match being 0.097 which is actually the unrelated result. Austrians are fully Germanic so yes they are related to Serbs because Austrians have Slav blood. I already explained this, this doesn’t need to be explained by youre stupid.

Meanwhile, you literally have Turkic YDNA.
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>>545026848
Well there's gonna be a vote on that if it happens but I am gonna vote no.
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>>545026869
>Well, if that's Iranian dna, it would simply mean vlachs have what you have as well in the south, and what 80% of your main admixture is anyway (near eastern)

Since the same logic would be seen here
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>>545026869
Logic would dictate that gheg Albanians would have this Iranian gene but they do not, because that gene is not from the Balkans. Not hard to get this point across but because you’re a jealous boon it needs to be explained almost all the time!
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>>545026791 their entire political campaign was based on the—everyone that disagrees with us is literal Hitler, You can test this by just trying to question things about them, they will throw insults & tantrum at You like 12 year olds, it is only natural for them to believe in fairy tales
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>>545026886
I post it to show you're the closest genetic match to Turks in the Balkans

Autosomal also shows the same >>545025805
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>>545025805
Dodecad project LOL
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>>545026931
The difference is that here’s ancient sample of E1b in northern Balkans from 300 bc. Now post one of J2b1? You can’t because I know it doesn’t exist.
>>545026953
Nope, 0.10 is unrelated. Being “more unrelated” than Albanians doesn’t mean anything when you have their rape blood while Albanians do not. Albanians have their maternal dna, means nothing.
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>>545026931
>>545025805
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>>545027015
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>>545019329
>thread about elections
>schizos start posting haplogroup pseudoscience
vucic was too good for Serbia
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>Greece has more Italian admixture than Albania
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>>545027066
>pseudoscience
Anything I don’t get isn’t real. The serbooon brain.
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>>545027066
Kek, it's the same schizo as always - I feel bad for him, imagine being born in Albania and 20% of the population doesn't have toilets, your parents fled to Canada where you're seen as brown and a Mudslime, and where you want to kill people because of it. There's nothing to be proud of about your history. It is rough. He has developed some psychosis due to it. See >>545025827
>>545025850
>>545025868
>>545025893
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>>545019329
I hope they fix your sewage
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>>545026791
Better yet, reduce Serbia to its original borders.
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>>545027197
>Tfw Albania has no major European capital so not mentioned

Same

>Albania frequently dumps untreated raw sewage into the Adriatic Sea. A lack of functioning wastewater treatment infrastructure causes inland rivers to carry a toxic mix of urban waste and sewage directly to the coast, creating environmental and public health concerns
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>>545027275
>>545027197
>While not a major European capital, Tirana is one of the few European capitals that lacks a fully operational, city-wide wastewater treatment plant. Raw sewage is dumped directly into local waterways

>>545021185
>>Albania is more polluted than India
>>>Population 2 million
>>https://www.numbeo.com/pollution/rankings_by_country.jsp
>>>544781220
>>>According to the Quality of Life Survey conducted by the European Commission, around 17% of respondents said they lack a toilet or shower at home
>>>17% of albanians don't have working showers or toilets
>>>17% of albanians don't have working showers or toilets
>>>17% of albanians don't have working showers or toilets
>>(the highest in europe, 4x higher than the next) (Macedonia, large albanian population)
>>https://www.balkanweb.com/en/Survey-shows-Albanians-have-unsanitary-and-damp-homes/#gsc.tab=0
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ok why are there so many memeflags seething? its a little on the nose
>>545027066
kek, too real
>>545027080
wut lol, do albos call themselves italian o algo?
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>>545027089
Albanians are short browns and historically Ottoman enforcers of rule, the opposite of an European
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>>545027338
They call themselves anything but Albanian for obvious reasons
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>>545027275
>>545027336
>deflection
Kek.
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>>545027336
>>545027275
>>545027197
>Tourists came for crystal waters. They found sewage, plastic and burning dumps. Albania's waste crisis has turned its tourism dream into a looming disaster

https://albaniavisit.com/tourism-politics/albania-waste-crisis-tourism/
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>>545027354
What, Serbs are brown chimps
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>>545026726
iirc SIPA arrests Serb veterans at random under suspicion of bla bla women and children, like one guy once per year, i think they do it just to prove that they are not sitting on their ass', the cases are never registered
as for your dad, I doubt he could even be tracked since you don't need a passport to cross the border unless if you're transporting cargo
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>>545027338
>ok why are there so many memeflags seething? its a little on the nose
They are all Albanians and I think it is humiliating for them to post under foreign flags.
The ones from Kosovo sometimes get Serbian flag hence they use a memeflag but for example this guy lives in Canada.
They always post under memeflags for some reason except those who live in Albania.
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>>545027429
LOL

Whenever someone wants to post a brown Serb, it's either a gypsy or a southern Serb (clusters closer to Albanians and Bulgarians)

Whenever someone wants to post a white Albanian, he'd cluster closer to Serbs and Croats.
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>>545027448
>as for your dad
No one in my family ever talked about war so I don't ask them anything, I heard this accidentally. After all if they don't talk about the topic I don't ask, I think that's for the best.
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>>545027429
Albanians are 174 cm on average, same as Turks. While all your northern neighbors are significantly taller than you. Since height is highly influenced by genetics, what does that tell you?
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>>545027429
L O L
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>>545027429
Albanian ISIS member
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>>545027429
Albanian ISIS member who threatened the Balkans
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>>545027429
Albanian ISIS member,
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>>545027529
Kosovo Albanians, ghegs average 180 cm, btw they have less slavshit dna than Albanians from Albania. Historically Albanians have always been taller than Serbs or Germans but you’re a Serboon
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>>545027354
>short browns and historically Ottoman enforcers of rule, the opposite of an European
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>>545027429
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>>545027429
>>545027429
>>545027429
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>>545027506
Nobody is believing that.
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>>545027668
Nearly the entire meme is structurally "fake," as every single item is framed with historical distortion. The image presents a list of 34 events under the title "Serbian-Turkish Alliance," claiming these are examples of "joint military action."

When looking at actual historical records, none of them represent a genuine, voluntary state alliance between Serbia and the Ottoman Empire. The claims breakdown into three categories of historical manipulation:

1. The Purely Inverted Lies (Battles Against the Ottomans)

At least 13 of the listed claims are completely inverted. The meme lists conflicts where Serbs were actually defending their territory or fighting in European coalitions to defeat the Ottoman Empire:

• Battle of Bileća (1388): A severe Ottoman defeat. The Kingdom of Bosnia decisively crushed the invading Ottoman forces.

• Battle of Kosovo (1389): A clash where the Serbian Prince Lazar led a Christian coalition to stop the Ottoman expansion, resulting in both Lazar and Sultan Murad I dying in battle.

• Battle of Varna (1444) & Battle of Kosovo (1448): Major European crusades organized explicitly to drive the Ottomans out of Europe.
• Sieges of Belgrade (1409 & 1521): Direct Ottoman assaults against the city, which was a heavily fortified Christian stronghold.
• Siege of Šabac (1521) & Siege of Gvozdansko (1577–78): Famous, bloody defense operations by Christian forces resisting brutal Ottoman conquests.
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>>545019329
Far right on domestic issues
Pro Russia, anti Israeli on foreign policy

These are the only sane stances
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>>545027786
The remaining listed items from the 1390s to the 1450s are heavily stripped of context to create a false narrative.
Following the collapse of the Serbian state after 1389, local rulers were forced into vassalage to prevent the total slaughter of their people. Legally bound by medieval feudal law, they were forced to send auxiliary troops to the Sultan:
• Rovine (1395), Nicopolis (1396), and Ankara (1402): These featured forced Serbian auxiliary units fulfilling treaty duties.
• Kosmidion (1410) & Čamurlu (1413): These occurred during the Ottoman Interregnum (a civil war between the sons of Sultan Bayezid). Different Serbian factions simply backed competing Ottoman princes for their own survival, meaning Serbs were actually fighting against each other on opposing Turkish sides.

>so 3 battles are actually real, as vassals for 30 years
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>>545027338
>wut lol, do albos call themselves italian o algo?
albanians are a bunch of nobodies, they try to claim other peoples history, hell it's doubtful whether they even stem from illyrians, what fragmented samples survived show they were related to north italians and not modern albanians
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>>545027371
hmm interesting, I would say albos italians and greeks are all closely genetically related, but albos made a civilizational blunder by adopting Islam and getting turkified
>>545027460
kek, i notice the same with turkish posters occasionally, i didnt realize it was because they are diasporafaggots
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>>545027668
Most of those are fake btw, everyone can look it up. Created by seething turkoalbanians

>Serbs
>Most battles and wars against Turks in the Balkans

>turkoalbanians
>supplied most troops to Ottomans after Turks and ethnic Kurds, per Cambridge paper

>>545027656
>trust me we are taller just not at the moment

Lmao same cope as last thread
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>105 pbtid
The seethe & cope is unreal

>>545027786
>saar gemini saar debunk this meme saar the honor of serbia is at stake saaar!! saar give me the prompt that i asked for saar!!!1
>saar dont go into the wikipedia article of the aforementioned battles saar you definitely wont find serbs on the turkish side saar!!!1
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>>545027814
>>545027786
>>545027668
>When comparing who fought more for (rather than against) the Ottoman Empire, Albanians fought for the Ottomans significantly more in terms of overall duration, numbers, and high-level strategic impact
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>>545027880
>>545027890
>>545027814
>>545027786
>>545027668
>Wikipedia

Serbia has the largest list of conflicts against the Ottomans in the world, while other Balkan countries like Bulgaria, Greece and Albania have less overall than Serbia has in one decade.

Serbs were also bordermen and military guard in the Austria-hungarian empire, especially in Vojvodina (hence battleland) and Croatia (hence srpska krajina), where they were given permission to settle near the borders after Serbia and Bosnia fell, in exchange for military protection. This means that even in Austria Hungary and Croatia, a significant portion of the soldiers were Serbs, fighting for their flags, not Croats.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Serbian%E2%80%93Ottoman_conflicts
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>>545027821
Plenty of Illyrian samples cluster with Albanians more than north Italians. Besides that north Italians don’t have Illyrian YDNA while Albanians have them. And besides that Albanians and north Italians are genetically related autosomally while south Slavs are total regional aliens.
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So, how about them elections?
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>>545027880
>>545027890
>>545027947
>>545027668
>>545027668
Now let's look at Wikipedia, one single century of Serbian conflicts against the ottomans

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Serbian%E2%80%93Ottoman_conflicts
Early encounters
Kingdom of Serbia
Battle of Gallipoli (1312)
Byzantine civil war of 1341–1347
Battle of Stephaniana (1344)
Serbian Empire
Byzantine civil war of 1352–1357
Battle of Demotika (1352)
Battle of Serres (1357)
Fall of the Serbian Empire
Battle of Sırpsındığı (1364)
Battle of Samokov (1371)
Battle of Maritsa (1371)
Battle of Dubravnica (1381)
Battle of Pločnik (1386)
Battle of Kosovo (1389)
Serbian Despotate
Dynastic conflicts in Serbia [sr] (1402–1412)
Battle of Tripolje (1402)
Siege of Novo Brdo (1412)
War of the South Danube (1420–1432)
Ottoman invasion of Serbia (1425)
Ottoman invasion of Serbia (1427)
Siege of Novo Brdo (1427)
Hungarian–Ottoman War (1437–1442)
Siege of Smederevo (1437)
Siege of Smederevo (1439)
Siege of Belgrade (1440)
Siege of Novo Brdo (1440–1441)
Crusade of Varna
Long campaign [sr]
Battle of Nish (1443)
Battle of Zlatitsa (1443)
Battle of Kunovica (1444)
Mehmed II's Serbian campaigns
Battle of Ostrvica (1454)
Siege of Smederevo [sr] (1454)
Battle of Leskovac (1454)
Battle of Kruševac (1454)
Serbian–Hungarian raid on Ottoman territory (1454)
Battle of Tripolje (1454)
Siege of Novo Brdo (1455)
Siege of Smederevo [sr] (1456)
Siege of Belgrade (1456)
Siege of Smederevo (1458)
Siege of Smederevo (1459)[3]
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>>545027947
>bordermen and military guard in the Austria-hungarian empire
>saar we definitely didn't assimilate the vlachs saar!!!1 pure serbian indian gypsy blood saaar!!!1
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>>545028011
Ottoman conquest of Austria, Austrian campaign, troops by ethnicity
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>>545027990
>So, how about them elections?
they're i2a1e1b/10 divided by Vucic.
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>>545028011
>saar go into these unrelated battles where practically no serbs fought on the anti-turkish side after the 1400s saar, its proof that the battles i dont want to address are all made up saar!!!
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>>545027990
who did you vote for serbfren?
did vucic do nothing wrong? or is he a "kiked up shill" as the kids say?
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>>545027194
>Since the late 1990s, Albania has had a reputation as a global leader in human trafficking.

>ECPAT Albania estimated that in 2018 alone, over 5,000 Albanian children were victims of international trafficking.

>Albanian Law Does Not Protect Children From Being Exploited Through Prostitution

>Albanian woman, Sara, was kept as a sex slave

>>545027336
>>While not a major European capital, Tirana is one of the few European capitals that lacks a fully operational, city-wide wastewater treatment plant. Raw sewage is dumped directly into local waterways
>>>545021185 (You) #
>>>Albania is more polluted than India
>>>>Population 2 million
>>>https://www.numbeo.com/pollution/rankings_by_country.jsp
>>>>544781220
>>>>According to the Quality of Life Survey conducted by the European Commission, around 17% of respondents said they lack a toilet or shower at home
>>>>17% of albanians don't have working showers or toilets
>>>>17% of albanians don't have working showers or toilets
>>>>17% of albanians don't have working showers or toilets
>>>(the highest in europe, 4x higher than the next) (Macedonia, large albanian population)
>>>https://www.balkanweb.com/en/Survey-shows-Albanians-have-unsanitary-and-damp-homes/#gsc.tab=0
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>>545027429
Seems so
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>>545027990
fuck the elections, let's fling shit at al-baboons
>>545027975
cope, illirians clustered with celts and la tene than to you inbreeds
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>>545028144
Southern Serbia (Albanians and Bulgarians) + Vučić bussing gypsies to protests

>Yes, independent reports, local monitors, and video documentation show that Aleksandar Vučić's ruling Serbian Progressive Party (SNS) has bussed both Romani people and foreign migrant workers, including Nepalis, to pro-government rallies.

See >>545023666
>>545023692
>>545023863
>>545024007
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>>545028162
I voted for the students, hopefully they deal with the mafia that runs this country.
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>>545028251
>saar bulgarians are brown we definitely didn't backstab them first saar
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>>545028058
Someone post the cambridge paper which shows this Ottoman dog how his ancestors loved to supply troops for the turks
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Turks or Albanians, who can really tell? Unless you know the hat is Albanian, you can't
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>>545028306
MashAllah
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>>545027990
going well, soon we'll kiss croat asses again imagining josip broz
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>>545028305
I don't have it, only the image
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>>545028306
Somewhere there is the statue of their national hero who fought against Islam

Grim
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>saar we didn't genocide white people in bosnia for the jews saar, we are white aryans saar
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>>545028290
congratulations on the win. are you not suspicious of foreign involvement?
>>545028144
the only reason albos even have a country is because of the balkan league in 1912, you should be thanking the serbs if anything
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>>545028210
also illiryan toponims across bosnia and croatia have no cognates in albanian
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>>545028210
Genetic ID I24639, Dalmatia 800 bc.

Same YDNA. Look for yourself.
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>>545028474
Brown Cypriot, Albanians were already on the path to statehood before 4 way pincer invasions by the ex-slaves freed by England and Russia and not by themselves
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>>545028194
Hey nigger, why would cambridge say something like this?>>545028442


kek
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He thinks people would tell this apart from Turks
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>>545028491
Nope, can’t trust a lying boon. Is dardania not an Illyrian word by boon friend?
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>>545028474
>saar we liberated ourselves saar what do you mean our country wouldn't exist without russians saar
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>>545028591
delusional, you would still be polishing the sultans boot while they spat on your face, just like the kurds kek
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>>545028701
Where's Russia here?
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>>545028524
Genetic ID I16253, North Albania 500 BC.

Same YDNA as Albanians.
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>>545028723
Really, why are you animals so intellectually dishonest?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albanian_revolt_of_1912
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Meet Albanian ancient egyptians
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>>545028930
Gypsies. Meanwhile, these are literal chetniks
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>>545029029
"Komuniteti egjiptan"
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>>545028744
>saar look at this conflict a century after our state was made saar
>dont look at how serbia was founded in the 1800s saar
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>>545029058
Yes, Gypsies call themselves Egyptians in Albania. But in Serbia they call themselves Serbs.
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>>545029043
Imported nepalis in your pic, i posted gypsies once>>545029029

Funny how this is so true >>545027506
>Whenever someone wants to post a brown Serb, it's either a gypsy or a southern Serb (clusters closer to Albanians and Bulgarians)
>Whenever someone wants to post a white Albanian, he'd cluster closer to Serbs and Croats.
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>>545029104
>imported Nepalis
Ain’t no one believing that
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>>545029095
Albanians can't be differentiated from gypsies, but Albania's not doing that well in regards to gypsies. 100k estimate from 2012 from the European Council, population 2 million
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>saar we are not gypsies saar we have pure aryan blood saar
>saar we dont worship gypsies in serbia saar because we're gypsies saar, who is Ceca saar?
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>>545029153
It's a documented thing, my memeflag albanian
>>545028251
>Yes, independent reports, local monitors, and video documentation show that Aleksandar Vučić's ruling Serbian Progressive Party (SNS) has bussed both Romani people and foreign migrant workers, including Nepalis, to pro-government rallies.
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>>545019329
>400+ posts of shitflinging
MMMM BALKANS
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>>545029155
Yes, the difference is in the face and skin colour, more common amongst Serbs. absent in Albanians, already posted this>>545025813
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>>545029161
So should I switch to posting gypsies, away from posting Albanians? I was trying to be nice and post all Albanians. I guess we're all utlimately posting the same thing for browns (Albanians) and same thing for whites (Slavs)
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>>545029246
They don’t need to bus in Romani, they’re everywhere in your country.
>posting a gypsy drummer
Yes, most drummers and flute players are gypsies. That’s their job.
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>saar we are not a genocidal people saar
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Are these Gypsies too?>>545029299
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>saar albanians are brown saar
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Albania or middle east? Albania

>>545029396
Paleo-balkan or gypsy, hard to tell. Real Serbs seen >>545023666
>>545023692
>>545023863
>>545024007
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>haha here's gypsies in Albania
>haha here's gypsies in Serbia
Based chads.
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>>545029470
KFOR is all foreigners by law.
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>>545029505
Here's some actual Albanian soldiers
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>>545019329
test
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>>545029505
>>545029543
>>545029470
>KFOR (Kosovo Force) is an international peacekeeping mission completely operated by foreigners (international troops) under a NATO mandate. By law and international agreements, it does not contain domestic forces from Kosovo or Serbia
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>>545028524
>>545028762
lmao, a lombard-latin mischling is closer to illiryans than an albanian
thanks for proving me right
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>>545029569
He's not a part of KFOR you nigger but the KSF (Kosovo security force), soon to be KAF (Kosovo Armed Forces). Remind me how Serbs can go to Kosovo again? Only by passport.
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2 Albanians and a Serbian-American in the middle. Big own
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Slavic rape baby or foreigner is the rule to go by



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