Should Russians and other Europeans be working together or should we remain enemies?
Is the question for tax paying goycattle or the economic clans?
>>545027222work together, do not fall for Eurasianist lies, Russia is White.
>>545027222depends
>>545027352We are part Asian, but I don't think its a big deal.
>>545027222Of course they will remain enemies if retards will continue to cut russia in half on all the maps, especially leaving off the most valuable part.
>>545027222We tried that at the end of the cold war and you didnt want to take the deal so we used China as our manufacturing base instead.This has never been an us problem, its always been a you problem. Because when it comes down to it you just dont trust anyone.
>>545027222Russians are not humans, russians shouldnt be seen as humans or treated as humans.
>>545027222Russian civilization is bigger than being just a eurogoy and they are certainly will never be friendly
>>545027499I was talking about Europe, not US.
>>545027222Normals countries can't get along with Russia until you clean up house and stop being ruled by corrupt mafia and KGB.
>>545027530What is Russian civilization exactly? How does it differ from European civilization?
>>545027222Europeans are not really needed. You get absolutely nothing from them.
>>545027423Less so than Finns though.
>>545027222The problem is than you don't want working together...you want rule all.
my dear russian, levant was promised to us long time ago, pack your bags, we are going
>>545027222what the fuck do you think? of course we should be working together. there is zero reason for russia europe and the us to be in conflict with each other. no one side did everything right. we all did our own wrongs. but it's time to move on and stop the stupidity
we should trade food and commodities and increase cultural exchange
>>545027627look at finland and look at russia, there is no way for you not be someones bitch, such is the reality
>>545027559Pretty much Slavic/Norse/Finnic oriented to Byzantine Culture.
>>545027222I don't wanna work with that Niggerstan.
>>545027559russia is a child civilization of europe, exactly like the us.
Both
>>545027559Russia is Eastern Roman, jewrope is Western Roman. Different religions, different language families, different culture.
>>545027222Russians should be sex slaves to Europeans
>>545027662>there is zero reason for russia europe and the us to be in conflict with each otherCompetition maybe, but its no longer the 19th century, so idk. Maybe it is no longer relevant.
>>545027534Well who gives a fuck about Europe? What do you think you can gain by associating with them? Everything you hate about use the Euros do twice as bad so what gives?
>>545027893Cultures are different, but that does not mean it is a different civilization. There is German culture, but no German civilization. Same with Russia.
>>545027559Russia is practically privately owned by putin and his cronies. Europe is publicly owned by jews and their cronies. Russia engages in the slave trade and corruption. Europe exported that to china. Legal systems have a seperation of power for the non-political goys. at least we pretend that fairness exists for the goyim, the kievan rus know their place
>>545027953Because US is self-sufficient and strong on its own. Neither Russia, nor EU can actually compete with China or US. Our only hope at staying relevant is working with each other, but I am not sure that's possible anymore.
>>545027893russia is north asian/horde, you've nothing to do with romesocial contract, law etc all inherited from tataro-mongols
>>545028043USA is nigger and useless CHINA is communistic and will collapse on its ownEU is a socialist experiment and should reformRussia is evil
>>545027980Cultures are a part of a civilization. China, Koreas and Japan have different enough cultures, but they belong to a single Confucian Asian civilization. Eurofags had a common primary Latin language and Catholicism. Russia didn't.
>>545027559Civilization is just a word to describe groups of people organized together. Anything that isnt all vs all barbarism qualifies as Civilization. A Civilization is only as good as the results it produces. Does it expand its population and territories, does it advance scientific understanding, does it invent new technologies, does it solve more problems then it creates, etc.To judge any Civilization on something as nebulous as culture or etiquette is the purview of dead empires that are past their prime.
>>545027222Death to all of Russia the nation of kaffer kikes
>>545028161civilization describes groups of cultures with common tropes, patterns, perception
>>545027352No they are not Sanjeep now STFU
Reminder it's the US driving a wedge between us so picrel won't happen.>George Friedman (Stratfor), on US "primordial" drive to prevent union of Germany and Russia (2015)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21Gouq6hp-0
>>545027423Except for that bit where you've sworn to kill every German and declared eternal war against Whites? Forgot about that little detail there didn't you you FUCKING DISENGENIOUS RUSSIAN KAFFER
>>545028154>Eurofags had a common primary Latin language and CatholicismIt would be far-fetched to group civilizations based on alphabet and religion. Languages are of the same family and Catholicism and Orthodoxy are not all that different either. The division was political and remains so. Like Shia and Sunnis.
>>545028280Germany and Russia will never "merge" you fucking VPN faggot don't be ridiculous
>>545028319Please, refrain from replying to me. I am not interested in talking with you.
>>545028121>arrogant euro too afraid to show his nationality>>545028043The EU is a welfare state zombie that shambles from one financial crisis to another and exists solely because of the benevolence of larger powers trying to court them for trade opportunities. But their house of cards is quickly collapsing as shown by the french riots and numerous other instances of internal instability throughout the EU. Russians thinking they need them is tragic and sad. For god sakes man. You used to be powerful enough to stand on your own. The failing states of the EU arent going to be the secret to reviving your empire.
>>545028407I don't care KAFFER. Russian kaffer dog. Fucking commie scum fuck
>>545027222What does Russia have to offer Europe? inb4 dedovshchina
>>545027222You need to stop the imperialistic war mongering, ease up on the warcrimes and atrocities, then you'll have to pay reparations for those committed prior - do these things and there's maybe a place for you in Europe, but until then...
>>545027222We did work together and had a lot of cool projects going on before the Ukraine Crisis; which means that Russia soiled the relationship.I have nothing against Russians, we share a lot of history in good and bad, and in a way Russians and Finns have a lot of same core mentalities. Its just your leader.
>>545028433>You used to be powerful enough to stand on your own.This ended with the collapse of USSR. We are no longer a global power. It is silly to pretend otherwise.
>>545027222They are scared you are just using colaberation and such as a front for malicious intentions. Such as invading the former east block.
>MOTHER RUSSIAMore like kill that motherfucking Russian kaffer
>>545028371It's a fucking base of any civilization that defies everything else.>The division was political and remains soIt's exactly the opposite, trying to find anything in common and and have a mental olympics to justify dealing with others is political.
>>545028499There couldn’t be any “work together” with Russia and Finland. You either take advantage of being close to Russia or not. You are too small and irrelevant to be even considered. You are completely on another level. Maximum you can do to try to talk as equals is to become a rocket catcher for Nato.
>>545028624How are Orthodoxy and Catholicism drastically different?
Back when we killed Russians by the dozen. Those were good times
>>545027222Russia is useful. Russians are easy to get along with unless you're brainwashed by American fear propaganda. Cooperation with Russia is beneficial and acceptable.I think all those little artificial nations in Eastern Europa are a sign of European decay and chaos. Germany and Russia should restore order together and build robot socialist societies together with China. Pic related.
>>545028499We both enjoy snow and sauna. We call it banya though.
>>545028396>South Africa has an opinion about YuropWhat about getting your own shit together before talking about things you don't understand?
>>545028792I understand you don't hate Russia enough
>>545028735Is this a map of religion in Europe?
>>545027927competition, sure. in tech, science, innovation. but we don't need to be in war for that. boeing and airbus compete fiercely. yet there is no europe-usa war. anyways, europe depending on the us for its defense b/c of the russia russia russia scare in fact made europe weaker. without a strong united and more independent europe, we see less competition and thus less innovation. do you think if russia wasn't shuttered off from the world after the fall of the USSR that it wouldnt have its own boeing or airbus? it's developing its own 100% russian planes now bc of desperation and that is not a bad thing per se'. but if russia was embraced by europe and the us and vice versa it would've been more advanced. and if europe was more independent thinking that europe wouldnt have its own silicon valley? A strong Russia, a strong Europe, and a strong US, all working together, while maintaining a strategic combination of independence and interdependence, would create a much better world for all 3.and peace between russia europe and the us doesn't mean stalling defense capabilities. it means instead we could focus on competing with china and india.
>>545028752We both love melancholy and suffering too. The quiet and nature. I really wish Russia bounces back from this and we can be brothers again.
>>545028859I am actually curious to see if India will be able to become a global player ever. They got a lot of people, but are terribly disorganized. Still, I think the main competition will be between US and China with EU and Russia lagging far behind and mostly picking sides between the two giants.
>>545028499genuinely, why are you finns such fucking niggers?
>>545028909That would be nice. I haven't been to Finland in almost 20 years. I remember Lapland being very nice and snowy.
>>545028686Having semi-autonomous churches instead of a nigger feet kissing Pope is already a huge difference and it reflects the opposite approaches to centralization and decentralization, which greatly influences the culture and society.
>>545028815>hate Russia110% of my hate is reserved for kikes
>>545028522russia could be. the us is tired of being the only european civilization superpower. trump wants russia and europe to step up and be partners with us to defeat the asian menaces
>>545027222We were doing just fine 4 years ago.We were good friends 12 years ago.There is literally no reason to be enemies.
>>545028043>Our only hope at staying relevant is working with each other, but I am not sure that's possible anymore100%. But this increasingly also true for the US. So it is vital.
>>545028969india is interesting because it's simutaneously has everything going for it and everything going against it. India is one of the great civilizations. It has a lot of smart people. Why that hasnt resulted in a better India today? disorganization is prob one of the biggest factors for sure. Maybe also democracy, which I guess is tied into the bigger disorganization idea anyways.
>>545029149I am no sure anymore if we can. Honestly, I believe Russia should not even strive to be a global power and instead settle for a role of a regional one. All these global ambitions consumer resources, but give nothing in return. You spend billions helping some distant country thousands of miles away and relations can collapse overnight. This is a waste of effort and money.
>>545027222I'm nobody to tell Russians about Russia, but I don't see you as European. It's not meant as an insult or anything like that. It's just that, reading your history, I struggle to see you as European.
>>545029316They are becoming less and less democratic though. However, such a multicultural country as India ever maintaining democratic rule is already a miracle.
>>545029431Why is that?
>>545029020Same, I've wanted to go on a motorcycle trip through Russia to see the Alexandrov Ensemble live
Russia, norway, uk, ukraine, belarus etc should be absorbed into the european union. Such a state would be totally self sufficient and could be made into a fortress. America and China would have to bend the knee to such a state.
>>545029603Would it work? Sounds like it needs to be hyper centralized to be able to reach any consensus.
>>545028266YOU ARE LITERALLY ZAMBO
>>545028319Every white under 50 can break free of antiwhite programming under the right circumstances, even women
>>545027222You only need a couple of dota2 matches to understand why working with Russians is utterly impossible.
>>545027222No two countries are alike. We are enemies. Russia its self should be split up more than it is
>>545029385being a superpower doesnt mean giving poor shitholes halfway around the world money anymore though. the aid of the foreign aid bonanza is over. you see this with russia, china, and the us. europe too in large part. china and russia via wanger go into africa, pay off the local politicians, take the resources for a 10th of their market value, and then fuck off. anyways, only so many countries can become superpowers.
>>545027222>>545015123No
>>545029138but not the soviet bolsheviks still stringing along the puppets in the russian government for some reason, dennis
Whilst there was a chance it could've worked out in the 90s/00s, you've probably blown that idea for another 50 years Ivan. Which is a shame. Russia is a beautiful country with a proud history, and I'm sad that I will probably not be allowed to visit for a long time now.
>>545030194We spent the entire USSR period building up stuff in republics and now its all gone. Right now we are building nuclear stations that cost like 40 billion dollars for our own money via credit and I am not sure we will ever benefit from these investments. Being a global power costs a lot and gives little in return unless you are on US/China level.
>>545029471I just don't think of you as Europeans. My primitive brain insists in the concept of Eurasia and in representing such concept with Russia.
>>545030579What is Eurasian concept in your opinion?
>>545027222all europeans dislike eachother..
>>545027921the faggot already hit the wall
>>545030422again, you need to do things for yourself. us is superpower yet you don't see it building infrastructure for other countries
>>545030914Yeah, but sometimes you spend like a trillion on some Afghanistan. We do the same.
>>545027222Aren't Russians attacking and killing Europeans as we speak?
>>545030658eurasia is dumb idea. reality is russia is a european settler state that swept across siberia
>>545031120I cannot tell, because very few can explain what the concept entails. Its vague.
Europe was in fact friendly and interested in no conflict. Military spending was at an all time low and we bought resources from Russia.It was not us who sought war even if Russians will claim something else.
Maybe there's a remote possibility that all the countries doing better than Russia are doing something better and it's not just the man keeping Russia down, but what do I know.
>>545027222Why would I be allied to a bunch of feminist subhumans like the Russians?
If they were European they wouldn't be collapsing every half century ruled by kikes. They're a failed race better off being ruled by the Germans.
>>545031220because there is no real idea behind it kek. it's a reactionary ideology pushed by these 4th direction types like dugin used to push anti-european sentiment. these retards think russians are more similar to china and india than to europe kek
They lack the brains. They could be muscle for the German master race.
>>545027222its impossible- europe lost economic competition and their elites are searching whom to blame instead of solving the issue, they are not going anywhere- russia and europe are economic competitors- europe is going downwards during last 100 years, before ww1 it was center of the world, before ww2 is was still economic center of the world and before ww3 it was still while and relevant- EU is not guided by economic pragrmatism unlike china or usarussian best interest is to grab part of ukraine, anschluss belarussia, settle all trade balances with europeans in gold and watch civil wars between old and new europeans from safe distance
imagine believing a single word from ru*siansthey are somewhere between jews and jeets
>>545027222This concept will probably not work during our lifetime. How could it? We had peaceful, mutually beneficial trade and peace and from the European Perspective, Russia threw all of that away to gain some Ukrainian clay. Maybe if literally every neighbour of Russia is in NATO, maybe then.
>>545027222I want all Europeans to work together, including Russians. That's my dream
>>545027222Maybe when Siberia falls to China.
>>545031575u finns need to go back to china. fucking hell
>>545027222Up to you.
>>545027222I was ok with Russians up until you started working with Trump and glazing Americans. I'm done with Russians now and am now fully behind the EU/Ukraine cause.
>>545027222The European section of Russia should be. The idiots who started this war should all be exiled to the steppe tundra to live in the outhouse company of their mongoloid warlord brethren.
>>545031967also this
>>545027222We cannot change the map. I am not going to some hardware store, get a showel, and start digging russia away.I am not going to get guns or weapons and kill 140-150 million russians either because it would take too long and I am too lazy.Reality is that in time it will get back to normal. It always do just because of the fact that we are neighbours.Our challenges are really not challenges, but its politicians with ideologies.Everyone want to be right in every country and no matter how much we try to convince the other parts or whatever that what they are doing is wrong and what we are doing is right, it will never work. Not if we try it 1 year, 50 years or 100 years. It has to do with culture and who we are.We simply need to accept that cultures are different, that we want to do things different, and if we manage to do this, it will work out. It will take years, but eventually it will happen since its just how life works out.Personally I think that relationship with Russia will be far stronger in 20-30 years than it was before, and it has to do with the multipolar world we are heading into. US is no longer the single superpower out there and they will no longer be able to be the world police. There are no security guarantees from the US anymore and NATO is only NATO on paper, meaning it is more or less dead in reality.EU I believe will dissolve over time, not with the help of Russia or US or China, but internal disagreements within EU member states.So this is my point of view and I think in 20 years things will be pretty great. It will be shit then next 5 years, cooled down in 10 years, and beyond that it will grow back to something more normal.
>>545032057They're like a long lost brother who died but came back changed.
>>545031608There is almost nothing that Europe can propose to Russia in long termThe only thing on which russia depends is european luxury goods for super rich (platinum dildo warehouses), it did not changed much during last 300 years
>>545027222russia just shouldnt remain
Only leftists and jews are pushing the divide between Europe and Russia plus the retards they convinced that putler wants to conquer Europe or something.
>>545030728you still would, don't lie
>>545032202>-ACK
>>545027222maybe if you stopped acting like niggers, which we all know will never happen
>>545032057nato is less paper than you think. russia would be foolish to dare lay a finger on finland, the baltics, or poland. us would fight to protect it zero doubt.
>>545031489>these retards think russians are more similar to china and india than to europe kekAgain, I can entertain this idea, but they at the very least should explain in what way. Because I see very few similarities if any.
>>545032373Stop being a butthurtbelter, putler isn't going to invade you just relax.
>>545032148ok
>>545032202I watched this channel just yesterday. The creator is such a scummy rat, but some of the responses are funny.
>>545032228would what
>>545032655Russians are the ultimate butthurtbelters, imagine over 100 mil. pile of rusniggers still seething over 2 mil. baltGODS. BaltGODS won, rutrannies lost. To Ukraine.
>>545032967You are the only one seething though.
>>545033141Sure thing, sure thing.
>>545032786>The creator is such a scummy rat,Why
>>545027555The doj is going to look a lot more like the stasis and the Cia is going to look a lot more like the kgb if the dems take the house and senate these midterms. I would be way more worried about that.
>>545033508He subtly mocks some people cheekily, taking pleasure in them getting confused. Its like arrogantly mocking a child, simply not very nice. And unprofessional.
russians are not human let alone european
>>545033654Fair critique. Some things are probably lost in the subtitles for me.
I'm sorry russki bro, but you can't just murder 2 million european-minded people and say oops and expect everything to return to normal. Those people wwre waving EU flags, they are holy in European eyes, and you murdered them out of envy and humiliation.You will be norfkorified for the next 100 years minimum, sad but it's what happens when you lay down amd let a KGB glowie butt fuck you for 3 decades. Your culture of cynicism and nihilism enables these vampires to take advantage of you.You will stay poor and you will lose access to the outside world gradually, step by step. But don't worry, your grandchildren will hate you and spit on your grave, and maybe even go to civil war. After all, you are not complete genetic slaves like the norfkoreans.
>>545033654>taking pleasure in them getting confused.I am also like this sometimes btw. What do you suggest to better myself as a person? Like I find it funny when my cat is confused for a second and I also enjoy confusing people for a second or two (never let the confusion stand)am I a sadist?
