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How were the neocons any worse than Trump and MAGA, or were all that bad at all?
I just turned 28, so I was a kid in the 2000s and barely remember what politics was like back then. There’s all this talk of how “neocons” like Bush, Cheney, etc. were allegedly pure evil and that America needs to be purged of anything “neocon.” But how were they really all that worse than what America has now with Trump? The 2000s seemed incredibly blissful compared to today. I get that people were upset about the Iraq War but was that really the fault of the neocons or just typical American imperialism?

Also, the “Straussian cabal” doesn’t exist, but if it did, so what? Leo Strauss was actually quite based. He was very pro-traditionalism and endlessly called out the moral relativism and lack of virtue in politics which lead to the degeneracy we see today. He also supported fascism originally on the basis it was a “return to Rome” (wanted to join the Nazis but couldn’t because he was Jewish) and even called out Carl Schmitt for not being anti-liberal and reactionary enough. Wouldn’t we support “Straussians” in politics?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Oh6DmjQaho
>the west is in a state of moral decline because of philosophical nihilism caused by liberalism, rationalism, science, individualism, and laissez-faire capitalism
>man has been turned from faith to reason, from community to the individual, from duty to rights, from inequality to equality, from order to freedom, from self-sacrifice to self-interest
>man has become unhinged from the natural moral order and religious faith
>platonic philosophy = good; modernism = bad
>some men are more fit to rule than others
>philosophic statesmen should never be hampered by conventional morality or the rule of law
>virtue is the purpose of the city, wise statesmen must use benevolent coercion to make their subjects virtuous
>regime should be grounded on piety, political myth, and self-sacrifice

Zero lies detected here.

Bring these people back into political power.
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>>545043063
>How were the neocons any worse than Trump and MAGA, or were all that bad at all?
They weren't. Bush was on par as bad as Trump if not slightly better terms of social safety net.

Just replace gays with trans and it's literally the same bullshit. Probably the same old geezer voters too as alot of them are probably still alive.
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>>545043256
I see.
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>>545043063
100%, the neocons are probably the most demonized group in modern American politics. The psyop to smear anything "conservative" has been going on for a few decades now. You need to realize the people who are constantly seething about "neocons" or "MAGA" are woke trannies and BRICS shitskins. Democrats, vatnigs, and mudslimes just like to seethe all day about "neocons" because Bush was the first American president to finally stand up against radical Islam in a big way. Of course, the woke left and the BRICS nations just wanted America and the West to welcome Islam and Sharia Law with open arms, so once Bush said fuck that and stood up to the sandniggers, the trannies and shitskins went into a fucking meltdown.
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>>545043637
Neocons were much better than MAGA. Neocons are smart, MAGA anre idiots.
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>>545043063
RIGHT WING BASICS
http://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1pi20Rr9_BxBbMIfcZUTTGslfZTifEiCm
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got damn repubs need to get a clue the democraps are commies and sand monkeys and poopjeets
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OP can’t be serious.
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>>545043063
They were the original miggers. But worse because they were younger, healthier, had greater public trust, more money, more time, etc. Trump is the culmination of their plan. His giant fuck ups killed their entire plan at 99% completion.
>Trump killed zionism.
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>>545043063
Let’s start here

Linsey conspired with Obama to NUKE Charleston Harbor to false flag us into war with Iran circa 2013

Inquiring about a tactical nuke detonated underwater off the coast of SC during week ending 10-12-13. Obamba fires several generals for not detonating it closer to Charleston.

A shocking new Main Intelligence Directorate (GRU) report circulating in the Kremlin today states that President Barack Obama, while in a rage, ousted four of the United States top ranking military officers after they refused to detonate a nuclear device "in/near" Charleston, South Carolina this past week and, instead, exploded it off the Atlantic Coast.
According to this report, Strategic Missile Forces Command (SMF) notified both President Putin and the General Staff this past Tuesday (8 October) that at 01:58:11 GMT/UTC an atomic device was exploded in the seabed off the US Atlantic Ocean, barely 1,000 km (620 miles) from Charleston, causing a 4.5 magnitude earthquake measurement that SMF experts equate to being a 1-kiloton yield, which is equal to the power of 1,000 tons of TNT.

https://archives.infowars.com/missing-nuke-investigation-special-report/
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>>545046134
ThebWhite race is never going to bow to you woke faggot democrats
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>>545043063
Just getting started
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>>545043063
>He also supported fascism originally on the basis it was a “return to Rome”

NHH
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>>545043063
Youre conflating a lot of groups.
There are the neocons
The 2016 MAGA
The 2024 MAGA
Trump
Bush
Cheney

Neocons = 2024 MAGA = 2016 RINOs
Trump = Cheney

2016 MAGA was against new wars and for america (not jeet spam). Bush was for social safety nets, and saved Iran by Yoloing Iraq instead of Iran.

Oh and the neocons are largely the EXACT same people as 2024 MAGA. Just older and more demented (which makes them less dangerous as they dont even know what day it is).

>>545043844
They are literally the same people now given how maga has purged any non zionists.
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>>545043063
got moar
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>>545046992
Bibi screwed it up. Bibi oversaw the dismantling of the USA military industrial complex. Without sufficient weapons production their plan was DOA.

Bibi also screwed the pooch by burning all the Mossad hard hitters and drone trams that had infiltrated Iran during summer of 2025. All so he could appear to hit Iran back hard. Imagine the 2026 riots, but with tens of thousands of FPV drones and ATGMs. The outcome would have been much more in doubt.
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>>545047341
"It is rather surprising is it not, that which ever way you turn to trace the harmful streams of influence that flow through society, you come upon a group of Jews.
• In sports corruption, a group of Jews.
• In exploiting finance, a group of Jews.
• In theatrical degeneracy, a group of Jews.
• In liquor propaganda, a group of Jews.
• Absolutely dominating the wireless communications of the world, a group of Jews.
• The menace of the movies, a group of Jews.
• In control of the press through business and financial pressure, a group of Jews.
>LOOK HERE
>Meet the other 20%
>neocons
• War profiteers, 80 percent of them, Jews.

• The mezmia of so-called popular music, which combines weak mindedness, with every suggestion of lewdness, Jews.
• Organizations of anti-Christian laws and customs, again Jews.

Henry Ford, The Dearborn Independent, 1922 (parts can also be tound in)
1922,
The International Jew, The World's Foremost Problem.
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>>545047594
That’s it?
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>>545047594
>>545047800
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>>545047800
>>545047861
He wasnt supposed to sacrifice Israel too. America was supposed to win and then be broken. Not lose.
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>>545048031
Yes
President Trump stopped it but majority of American Jews hate him for it
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>>545043063
>>545043106
WTF bro?
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>>545048945
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>>545048945
>>545049044
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>>545049395
Evil.
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>>545043063
Trump is already controlled by neocons. Look up the Claremont Institute: neocon Strauss cultists who have Trump and Vance by the balls.
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>>545049694
Yes I too befriend people who tries to kill me especially when I’m on the cusp of destroying them

If I got you working for me but I payed you with copied Monopoly money but I had you so brain fucked that you thought it was real money and you kept working for me for free to me copied Monopoly money does that make you my slave?
It’s called babylonian money magic
End the Fed

Circa 2008
>General Motors goes belly up
>Create new GM and debt goes poof
This but with new USA Inc.
inb4
>pay (((us))) back!!
Make us
We controls the resources we require and then some. We WILL control our monetary policies
(((You))) control NOTHING and your money is FIAT aka FAKE
You vill eat ze bugs
You vill own nozzing
You vill be happy

Did you know we can change the government without changing the President?
>Article of Confederation
>Constitution for the United States of America
And it came with a hand written direction and NONE of it requires VIOLENCE
>constitutional convention

[mind blown]


We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
In Congress, July 4, 1776

THIS IS HOW YOU GET YOUR HEAD ON THE
MOUNT RUSHMORE!!!!

Doooooo it President Trump I know you want to
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>>545049448
"It is rather surprising is it not, that which ever way you turn to trace the harmful streams of influence that flow through society, you come upon a group of Jews.

• In sports corruption, a group of Jews.
• In exploiting finance, a group of Jews.
• In theatrical degeneracy, a group of Jews.
• In liquor propaganda, a group of Jews.
• Absolutely dominating the wireless communications of the world, a group of Jews.
• The menace of the movies, a group of Jews.
• In control of the press through business and financial pressure, a group of Jews.
• War profiteers, 80 percent of them, Jews.
• The mezmia of so-called popular music, which combines weak mindedness, with every suggestion of lewdness, Jews.
• Organizations of anti-Christian laws and customs, again Jews.

Henry Ford, The Dearborn Independent, 1922 (parts can also be tound in)
1922,
The International Jew, The World's Foremost Problem.
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>>545043063
>Also, the “Straussian cabal” doesn’t exist, but if it did, so what? Leo Strauss was actually quite based.



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