>Vladimir Putin used most of his call with the leaders of Finland and Norway to lecture them about medieval Slavic historypathetic LMAO
>>545046048>tf>tp
I learned that Poland is angry at Russia because they used to own much of it, including Moscow for a time. Poles and other butthurt belters always whine about Russia attacking them but they get real quiet when anybody mentions the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth's abuse of Russia for so very long.Why is that?
nothing that happened before the peace of westphalia matters and even that date is being generous
Glory to Bandera.
>>545047118we gave russia civilization and they decided to burn down their own capital like niggers
>>545047365>we gave russia civilization and they decided to burn down their own capital like niggers>civilization>we>polandYou still yet to understand what it is bro. No hard feelings.
>>545047933>dies in donbasxD
>>545047118>I learned that Poland is angry at Russia because they used to own much of it, including Moscow for a time. Poles and other butthurt belters always whine about Russia attacking them but they get real quiet when anybody mentions the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth's abuse of Russia for so very long.>Why is that?Long story short, half of scandinavian countries would still be sucking sweedish cock if not for the russians, and they know it and remember it. (Denmark and Finland were brutilized by swedes for centuries).And Sweden itself were demolished so hard they call the fact that the Russian army did not capture the Swedish capital and did not conquer Sweden a miracle. Sweden were wiped off from geopolitical map of the continent since then and untill now, and they know it and remember it.
>>545048232>dies in donbas>xDпшeк.
>>545048397Nothing will stop this until you teach London a less you know. They've been interfering in MY country too, you know. Take 'em out and we all owe you one. Plus almost all wars, worldwide, will stop instantly.
>>545046048COMMUNISM IS THE WORST
>>545046048CAPITALISM IS THE BEST
>>545046048What history? His cuntry was made December 25, 1991
>>545048397One’s own suffering is experienced as absolute evil, while the suffering of “the other side” is either not denied but pushed to the periphery of consciousness, or justified by “higher interests” or “historical necessity.” A Pole who remembers Katyn may not reflect on the fact that his ancestors burned Moscow in the 17th century, while a Russian who remembers 1612 may not regard the partitions of Poland as something beyond the norms of that era
>>545049194Russia (the Russian Federation) is officially a continuator state of the USSR, not merely its successor. This international legal status means that, from the standpoint of international law, Russia and the USSR are one and the same subject, which did not cease to exist but merely changed its name and borders.Russia also assumed the USSR's debts in exchange for the former Soviet republics renouncing their share of the USSR's foreign assets. For a long time, the USSR's debt of 110 billion dollars constituted a significant part of Russia's external debt.
>>545049325Alma-Ata protocol is just a piece of paper in a archive. Modern Russia has even less in common with historic Rus when being a country didn't mean UN one world government recognition
>>545049325>>545049238nice AI slop rusnigger subhuman
>>545048642Neither Marx s das Kapital nor Engels nor Lenin, this is a retarded list
>>545046048
>>545050115Concession accepted.>>545049733For the foreign ministry of any country, for a permanent mission to the UN, and for the court in The Hague, Russia is the USSR in the same subject capacity. Any disputes about “new political culture” and the “1993 referendum” are the domain of constitutionalists and political scientists discussing the internal regime. As soon as the nuclear button, the veto power, or borders under the UN Charter come up, any talk of a “break in legitimacy” immediately stops by itself. International law is pragmatic to the point of cynicism.
>>545046048Instead of telling him to shut the fuck they probably listened to his irrelevant babbling
>>545050506The UN's own 1947 legal opinion established that a state membership rights "cease to exist with its extinction as a legal person."
>>545050437They had to come up with some holiday close on the calendar to November 7 but at the same time not Soviet. They found November 4 (Day of National Unity, declared a state holiday in 2005; historically, according to the official version, it is tied to the anniversary of the liberation of Moscow from Polish-Lithuanian troops in 1612), but nothing happened on November 4, simply nothing—historians have already commented on this.
>>545050821Then you will have to explain why Russia did not go through the admission procedure under Article 4 of the Charter, whereas Ukraine and other republics did. In the case of the Russian Federation, what was legally formalized was the continuation of the same subject.
>>545046048WE WUZ KANGS.
Every time.
>>545051021Dey literally WuzKangz of Butthurt Belt and FinlandThey bought whole countries like Estonia from Sweden or Kiev from Poland.They haven't been reimbursed still.But the fact of the matter is that Asshurt belters like yourself are property of the Russian Tsar judicially.
>>545050960Its simple. United Nations is the one world government and it seeks to establish what conspiracy theories describe for centuries, a global domination. George H. W. Bush addressed the United Nations General Assembly on September 25, 1989, during the 44th Session, where he famously declared that "one world" was emerging and that the United Nations had the opportunity to lead a "new world order". That's when the deception of glasnost was performed in eastern Europe, whitch was already long been planned by Vladimir Putin's early mentor, Juri Andropov
>>545051175>property of the Russian Tsar judicially.so, rightful finnish clay? the rest of imperial russia fell to revolution but finland remained
>>545051175Tsar was a broke German bitch who sold Alaska to the US
>>545046048Can potin give us a lecture with recreation of the rape under the golden horde and tatar yoke?
>>545046048Their history is genuinely interesting though:Slavs were always fighting other Slavs so they invited a Scandinavian prince to rule over them and stop the endless brother wars.This worked for a while but eventually Slavs just started killing Slavs again because that's all they can do.
>>545046048Europeans are mostly uneducated, so putin was trying to educate and explain all that events to themUkrainians refused to listen and now they are dead
>>545049238>bbut something happened in medieval times>and this justifies me invading your country now
>>545046048I love how autistic he is, I wish all world leaders were as autistic as him.
>>545046048Russian civilization died with Bolshevism. Putin is just a mongol rape baby. His part of Russian history is being a slave mongol bastard.
>>545051302What Finnish clay. Finland never existed as a sovereign state.Judicially Finland doesn't exist and is subject of the Great Duke of Finland- the Tsar or Russian Ruler. Although I myself don't see Putin as being worthy , he's just an old coward from what I've seen. Stalin was a Caesar (Zcar)
Russia is a fake country that doesn't exist.
>>545051610All Bolsheviks were filled in the 20s and bolshevism died with Trozky being culled.You're a ignorant moron, I'd say a subhuman even based on how and what you write. Utter dimwit.
>>545051660What were the last tsars titles?
>>5450517384th international didn't magically disappear with Trotsky
Slavs were undeveloped and didn't advance until Vikings sailed down rivers and started Russian civilization.
>>545046048how is he wrong?
>>545047365Holy based.
>>545051818Correct, trotskyists-leninists moved to USA with stolen gold and became core members of Democratic party
>>545047118>butthurt beltersRussia is the butthurt belt of Europe, they even celebrate independence from Poland.
>>545051919Euros were undeveloped and didn't advance until Sandniggers sailed the mediterranean sea and started civilization.
>>545052074They don't celebrate independence from Poland, you're just parroting shit you heard from Poles like the moron you are.Russia or Moscow never was legally subject of Poland, it was temporarily occupied.Poland however was subject of Russia for over 150 yearsBut a retarded Pole wouldn't tell you that and so you moron wouldn't know.
>>545051466Ukraine got several times more aid than USSR got to defeat Hitler lol - and they're still losing. They're on life support and the amount of. money it takes to keep them from folding in on themselves is skyrocketing.
>>545052271Most Russians don’t even know about this holiday.
>>545046048>>6 trillion years ago, even before the big bang, I was promised land.Yeah he is the representative of Isreal. The time he lost money and weapons Isreal run out of weapons and money. Pure coincidence.
>>545052271You lost tranny.>Władysław was elected as the tsar of Russia by the Seven Boyars in 1610, when the Polish army captured Moscow, but did not assume the throne because of his father's position and a popular uprising.>>545052277How many planes and tanks did the USSR recieve, rutranny? And how many Ukraine did?
>>545047365Volyn pamietamy!
>>545052271They celebrate raising the red flag in Berlin
>>545052468~€267 billion ($290+ billion) from all global donors combinedlol ukraine now is a debt ridden completely insolvent shit hole homeless nation dependent on welfare
>>545052468>By the seven BoyarsKek rusnafotranny unironically is pro-oligarchate and corruption now.Mask didn't hold long. It never does.
>>545052277The Lend-Lease program provided the USSR with a massive, central industrial lifeline from a single source. Ukies received only a fraction of that compared to the Lend-Lease program.But let me guess, you didn´t need it anyway
>>545052646Lend-Lease was important, but not absolute; the USSR certainly produced a great deal itself; the Red Army’s tactics were varied.
>>545052646Don't forget the food thar the us sent in early 1920s and 1990s
>>545052646ukraine already receiced 4x more than landlease in current valueits easy to google
>>545047118poland used to own literally 90% of ukraine. cossack ukrainians aligned with the ottoman empire and stole most of their country from poland and lithuania. ironically at that very time, russia was fighting the same enemies that poland was.
>>545047365Based.
>>545052539Planes and tanks, tranny, how many of them?>>545052556Whats better, collective leadership of oligarchs or one complete retard at the top? Youve never read Aristotle, who has actually managed to answer that, because youre a turkish tranny.
>>545051934OP wants the goyim dumb, supple, without history.
I've noticed that Russians and often Slavs more generally tend to be into history in a rah-rah type of way. Here it's more general education/Trivial Pursuit knowledge. Helps to have a country that doesn't suck ass so you don't have to fall back on history I guess, but living in Russia has sucked ass for the common man for 1000+ years, so I'm not even sure if history helps.
>>545052828>>545052808>Let's just compare imaginary dollar amounts, because that helps me cope>what is 13k tanks vs. 1k>what is 9k artillery pieces vs. 1k>what is 16k planes vs. 100delulu
>>545052836russia proposed centralized way of development with sronger central power, cities, weaker nobility, mercantilism and control over trade and value creationpoland represented decentralized oligarchy with weak central power, strong nobility, noble parliament, rural focus, laissez faire (free trade) and rent based economyrussian way was superior so poland was crushed during the age of by low profitability of their agricultural economyin 18 century their economy was not able to support standing army or order anymore, so it was partitioned
>>545048397Screw russia for letting the eternal swede survive! Always failing hard and being gay. But one day sweden will pay
>>545052910In any case, Ukraine’s dependence on the European Union is enormous - including the current dependence of the country’s budget on European aid (up to 40% of the budget is covered by foreign assistance), political dependence (support on the world stage), and military support (tens of billions of dollars), plus millions of Ukrainians are located in EU countries. This dependence will not only persist but will also intensify due to the need for post-war reconstruction.
>>545053201In the documents of the German General Franz Halder, there is an entry dated November 28, 1941: 'The enemy has unheard-of stamina. Our fuel shortage is critical, but their equipment is still moving. According to our data, the Russians have lost 75% of their tanks, but they have new types with wide tracks. We cannot copy them — we lack high-alloy steel.'He does not write about 'Lend-Lease'; he writes about Soviet steel and Soviet tracks. That is precisely what stopped the Germans at Moscow, when American supplies were still almost nonexistent (everything went through the Arctic Ocean, and in 1941 only a few convoys got through because of the ice).
>>545053201you open google, check value>$11.3 billion in 1940s prices, which is equivalent to roughly $180 billion to $205 billion in current valuemost of lendlease artillery was low caliber, its equal to RPG/AA machinegun today, ukraine had around 5k 152,155mm artillery pieces totallylight tank is 1944 is equal to IFV/APC today and so onussr produced all heavy artillery and tanks domesticallythats why putin educates uneducable european peasants who lose to russia every 100 years, their elite gets decapitated, they forget and repeat againi wonder if new african, hindu and muslim europeans will do same shit 100years later
>>545053326nigger, where do you think the steel processing equipment came from? Lend and Lease played a big part of your industrialization
>>545053285>he ignored everything after realizing he has nothing to sayAs expected.
>>545053557In Halder’s War Diary for late November 1941, the growing realization that Operation Barbarossa had failed is directly reflected. He writes of the Russians’ “unheard-of resilience,” of the “critical” fuel situation, and that “the enemy still has the possibility of bringing up new forces.” At the same time, he notes the appearance among the Russians of “new types of tanks with wide tracks,” which make an impression on him.The first northern convoy, “Dervish,” reached Arkhangelsk only on August 31, 1941. Over the whole of 1941, about 154,000 tons of cargo were delivered through the northern ports. For comparison, the total volume of Lend-Lease supplies to the USSR over the entire war amounted to about 17.5 million tons, meaning that less than 1% of the total arrived in 1941.Moreover, the deliveries of late 1941 were insignificant in composition. By the start of the Soviet counteroffensive near Moscow (December 5, 1941), only 420 tanks and 256 aircraft had been received under Lend-Lease. At the same time, these tanks (British Matildas and American M3 Stuarts) were poorly suited to winter combat and were inferior to the T-34 in cross-country mobility.
>>545053285You are not russian. VPN faggot jew.
>>545053557American investors were profiteering from both sides. For example kosher antisemite Henry Ford who supplied both sides
>>545053650The argument is exhausted. All the best.
>>545046048The collective west is hiding the truth cyka
>>545053742Ukraine has received a significantly larger sum, which it is wasting because of its extreme corruption and incompetence.
Ukraine and Russia are rightful Swedish Varangian clay
>>545053916>random English rest>not reference conclusive sources like russian schoolbook >AI slop imageMight as well posted a picture of feces would have been just as conclusive
>>545053716>>545053480Processing equipment>Vertical Lathes>Precision Thread-Grinding & Gear-Cutting Machines>Hydraulic Presses & Metal-Cutting Lathes>Precision Gauges & Measuring ToolsRaw Materials>Aluminum>Nickel>Copper & Brass>Toluene>Crude Rubberwithout all this shit you won´t have a trow away T-34 and a Katyusha, speaking of which. Where exactly did the truck came from?
>>545047118Poles history is literally all about FAFO. They got uppity, acted mighty towards their neighbor, got btfo, cry about muh massacre. rinse and repeat until today
>>545054173>WE WUZ RUSIts overlooked how thoroughly patethic swedes are.Not only that Sweden didn't exist at that time but that the random Nordic Tribe that wanted nothing to do with Sweden and settled as far as they could in Slavic somehow is Swedish because ethnogenesis is retroactive??? 0% of the RUS tribes genes ended up in today's Swedes and all in Russians
>>545054380shitloads of text, thats why you use such thing as "curret value" which i used from the startyour stupidy is astonishing
>>545054250You have to go back
>>545054495>uneducated nigger, comparing economic value with the value of war equipmentAnon....
>>545054482VPN rutranny, please. We wuz rus and you were (are) slav(e).>As for Ar-Rus'iya, it is located on an island surrounded by a lake. The island on which they (the Rus') live is three days' journey long, covered with forests and swamps, unhealthy and damp, so much so that as soon as a person sets foot on the ground, it trembles due to the abundance of moisture. They have a king called the Khakan of the Rus'. They attack the Slavs, approach them in ships, land, take them captive, take them to Khazaran and Bulkar, and sell them there. They have no arable land, and subsist only on what they bring from the land of the Slavs
>>545053192Sweden got kicked out of the big game so of course you do not enjoy it as much. What interesting stuff even happened in Sweden since 1700? You lost northern war, you lost Norway and Finland, you lost Estonia and Latvia, you lost few more wars with Russia. Skipped WW1. Sold some ore to nazis in WW2. Meh.
dont preach us about history you fucking kikewe are older than judaism
>>545054467Sounds like kacap projection to me.>They got uppitycheck>acted mighty towards their neighborcheck>got btfocheck>cry about muh massacrecheck>rinse and repeatcheck
>>545054763you produce either equipment or weapon, factory can be repurposed - Guns versus butter model (created during wws), in the end value is the only thing that mattersukraine already received 4x of landlease your stupidity is astonishing, you should at least read something before trying to arguefor example today europe becomes poorer and loses competition to russia (it already lost to usa and china) because it produced more expensive guns instead of glamour butter
>>545053192russians seek the "we waz" (mostly bullshit fabrications) to compensate for the sorry state of their existence. They think of themselves as characters in some fairytale where they will magically escape the hellhole where they are condemned to live.
>>545046048Man I wish America had a Philosopher King like Putin
>>545055080did the ussr produce vertical lathes?did the ussr produce precision thread-grindingdid the ussr produce hydraulic presses?did the ussr produce the Studebaker US6?did the ussr produce train wagons?did the ussr produce trains?I can make the list even longer, the point stands
>>545055471yes, russia (and then ussr) produced it all since 19 centuryimbecile LMAOin 1905 russian empire built the longest and the most complex rail road on earth, then produced trains for iti think you are proxyhohol or nafo troons, you dont even use proper english terms LMAO>trains LMAO, such mistake can be made only by themyou are too stupid to do non goyim jobs and you dont know how real goyim world works lol
>>545055744trains LMAOcan be also baltic cuck under proxy
>>545055409>pootin - a Philosopher Kinghe's more like a mafia boss, prone to regurgitate bullshit he heard from pseudo-intellectual charlatans like Dugin.
>>545055744>Yes, cumrag. The Soviet Union handled everything on its own. Without any outside help! Now get in your nonexistent T-34. Ha Бepлин!Rusniggers aren´t into their history
>>545055744>in 1905 russian empire built the longest and the most complex rail road on earth, then produced trains for itkek, the German was in charge of it's construction, American, British and Austrian built locomotives for it, as russia didn't have enough capacity to manufacture locomotives necessary to move supplies for the russo-Japnese war of 1905.
>>545055793>trains LMAOyou're only laughing because you're an ignorant moron
>>545046048I wonder if russia still has lead pipes in governmental buildings
>>545056209Pssst, don´t tell him. Everything was achieved solely through soviet willpower! No perfidious capitalists involved!
>>545056209>kek, the German was in charge of it's construction,True. Henrich Himmler's family had their clan out in St. Petersberg and Henrich was thinking of moving there in the 1920s.
>>545056070is called locomotiverailroad train is a connection of locomotive and car, dont make such mistake next time, if we take over your disguise 3 times you will be discharged to infantry and send to frontline>>545056209no, it was made by engeneers, one more imbecile, witte was just a CEOwitte was one of the nobles who lived in russian , his ancestors lived in the land which were conquered from swedish empirebefore that russia destroyed all batlic germans states and defeated their ancestors, thats how they became part of swedish empirerussia manufactured locomotives since 1834such projects as transiberian railroad requires supplies of materials from all empire and from places where it is cheaper to make it faster, same as today
>>545056209Russian factories could build steam locomotives, but their current production rates and logistical capabilities were insufficient to promptly meet the army’s needs in a remote theater of operations. Purchases abroad were caused by the need to quickly close the resulting deficit, not by a complete absence of domestic industry. Construction was managed by the Russian administration of the Chinese Eastern Railway (CER); foreign specialists and contractors (including, by the way, Chinese ones) were involved in individual sections, but they did not define the project as a whole.
>>545056265posting picture "butter and guns"again, i think i am wasting time, i already won pve 1v1, 1 vs 2 i will also wini already used total value of all of that in my first post, so we return to it again>>545053480>$11.3 billion in 1940s prices, which is equivalent to roughly $180 billion to $205 billion in current valueyou have problems with ability to readthats why we return to my first post >>545051465boomer putin was trying toeducate you not to killkilling cost money (guns instead of butter)
>>545053192There are objective factors (climate, agrarian overpopulation), and not only the 'evil will' of rulers
>>545056876>uneducated peasant by 18th century>uneducated ignorat peasant by 21th centuryclassic rascha
>>545056617>was just a CEOkek, you stupid retard. Witte provided the finances, organized the workforce, supplies etc. he oversaw the construction. If it was left to a retarded russian such as yourself, it wouldn't be finished to this day, due to all the incompetence and theft.>russia manufactured locomotives since 1834and yet its own capacity wasn't enough (a story as old as russia) and heavily relied on American, German, Austrian locomotive manufacturers. AND russian industrialization has always relied on European and American engineers, architects, toolmakers ets. Soviet tanks were American STZ-15/30 and Caterpillar Sixty crawler tractors with guns, built on American production lines brought brick by brick from America, namely, Stalingrad Tractor Plant (STZ) and the Chelyabinsk Tractor Plant (ChTZ).
>>545046048>>545051045>Education and history is le bad>t. nafo troonWe know
>>545057138>Witte provided the finances, organized the workforce, supplies etc. he oversaw the construction.you are out of touch with real goyim worldread it again, think a bit and you will see what ridiculous shit you just posted (or maybe not, you are nafo troon lol )>>545057132you lost an argument (you did not even know meaning of the words) and went into over 9000 butthurt loldelicious
>>545056876>muh billions then is the same as these billions now.moron, without the overwhelming prevalence of nutrient and energy dense canned meats supplied by the US, the soviet army would march as far as Moscow suburbs, perhaps. And that's just one category of essential goods supplied by the Len-Lease without which russian soldiers couldn't fight. Look at the overwhelming numbers of American made railroad cars used for soviet logistics, and we know that it;s actually logistics that wins wars. Then look at the number of American trucks supplied, to which Katyushas were mounted, and behind which heavy artillery was pulled. AND so on and so forth.
>>545047613you'll never be civilized goy-san
>>545057477you are out of touch with reality, you dont understand how things are done in real goyim world, you are either imbecile, neet or nafo troonyou posted such ridiculous shit in previous post that other letters and words that you generate have no meaning
>>545057138Didn’t the United States copy British technologies in the 19th century? The STZ-15/30 tractor, being a copy of an American model, was simplified and reinforced in its Soviet version for operation in off-road conditions and with low-skilled operators. This ‘adaptation’ led to the Soviet tractor surpassing its counterpart in maintainability and durability—a quality that later became the hallmark of all Soviet military and civilian equipment.Witte was not ‘just a director.’ He was Minister of Railways and then Minister of Finance, that is, a key political figure who secured state support for the project, financing (loans, taxes, currency emission), and organizational structure. He ‘effectively directed the construction’ at the highest level.>‘Russia had been producing locomotives since 1834.’True, but with a critical caveat. In 1834, the serf mechanics the Cherepanovs did indeed build the first Russian steam locomotive. However, this was artisanal, one-off production. Industrial locomotive building began only in 1844 at the Alexandrovsky Plant in St. Petersburg.>‘Its own capacity was insufficient... it depended heavily on foreign manufacturers.’By the early 20th century, Russia already had seven locomotive-building plants with a combined capacity of 1,200 locomotives per year, which was a significant figure (for comparison, France produced 500).If the Russian/Soviet engineering school and administrative apparatus had been so totally incompetent, it would be impossible to explain either the construction of the Trans-Siberian Railway in record time or the creation, within a single decade (the 1920s–1930s), of an industrial base that then withstood a war with the most powerful army in Europe.
>>545057218>Why do you have history of your people? We don't do that in the West!>Why do you think your people have a right to the land wich you inhabited for countles generations and wich were given to Ukranian SSR by commie Khruschev. We don't do that in the West!
>>545057614Ivan, we'd be arguing in German if there were no Lend-Lease program
>>545048397You are the most raped ethnicity on the planet. Raped by the Huns, Pechenegs, Tatars, Mongols, Poles, Balts, Germans, Chechens, and every other ethnic group under the sun that has stalked the fields of your homeland caving in your peasant skulls and fucking your women.
>>545057614kek, I accept your surrender, pidrila.
>>545052271https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9CRvCmJUnI
>>545057862>You are the most raped ethnicity on the planet. Raped by the Huns, Pechenegs, Tatars, Mongols, Poles, Balts, Germans, Chechens, and every other ethnic group under the sun that has stalked the fields of your homeland caving in your peasant skulls and fucking your women.Whiter than you, Gonzalez.Also, very 3rd world of you to think about rape all the time.
>>545053326Be careful when you read diaries that were not written at the time. Just so you know. The shit Guderian awrote is literally insane and was ordered by the Allies to promote myths that would bolster Bundeswehr's morale and propagandise the war into some anti-communist struggle and German supremacy.
>>545058182>Be careful when you read diaries that were not written at the timeObviously diaries are written at the time, I mean biographies/their recollections.
5 years and goyim still killing each other
>>545057696>Soviet administrative apparatus>record time or the creation, within a single decade (the 1920s–1930s)sure, now try to fathom what it would be like without millions providing slave labor, starving to death millions of its own citizens and the hundreds of factories that were shipped brick by brick from America, Germany, Britain. Only under the brutal dictatorship that didn't consider the human costs at all, can you achieve that level of industrialization (which was still lagging behind the West until the fall of the USSR).
>>545058099Your military is built on a culture of gay anal rape and your country is an HIV riddled shithole. It's an apt description of the Russian reality.
>>545057811That was not the opinion of the German high command that considered the war lost after Barbarossa did not result in Soviet capitulation.Lend Lease did not stop the German troops at the Gates of Moscow in 1941. And although you reached close to Moscow, you were not gonna take the city even in your dreams.Lend Lease, however, played a big part in the war.Regardless, if we're gonna make an argument about how US helped USSR industrialise in 1920s/30s too which I am very well aware of you should also be aware that without the "traitors of the Weimar government" that cooperated with the USSR, Hitler would not have been able to lead the war in 1939. Weimar heritage and their ties to USSR from Rapale agreements were cruical to the German war effort.But obviously you don't like this interpretation - everything in Germany came from the Germans, everything abroad came from America. Not to mention that Americans invested in Germany too.
>>545058360>Russian reality.nigger wake up
>>545047365rat faced faggotsubhuman scum
>>545058360Pot to kettle: nigger
i tried kvass for the first time todayit was made in lithuania and i really liked it
>>545047365Yeah... what ever, go to the front line
>>545058360>Your military is built on a culture of gay anal rape and your country is an HIV riddled shithole. It's an apt description of the Russian reality.Thank you for educating me about my country, you free, liberal, western man. Can you share any more precious nuggets of wisdom with me? We only have ebil Pitun propaganda here.
>>545047365to the last piglet
That's it from me because I am not gonna debate mentally ill Wehraboos who only ever read Guderian recollections written years after the fact, which while important and valuable cannot present the only source of information and has to be cross polinated with the other information we know and other diaries and other sources etc, and yes even those of Soviet leaders because only mentally ill craiyon eaters can trust everything a German wrote and dismiss everything a Russian wrote because Germans don't have capacity to be biased for some reason despite you retards getting the high losses of the Winter War of the USSR army from the USSR documents huh weird how that works, then their own sources are reliable.Fucking bots all of you.
>>545058620>Thank you for educating me about my country, you free, liberal, western manDue to posting style and the filenames I Know htat guy is Ukrainian in America and if you annoy him he will insult you back in Russian.Hard to not be biased when Ukraine is at war with Russia in his defense though he's like 60IQ considering his sentence structuring.
>>545051660LMAO go to bed Sasha.
>>545051919Is that why it didn't take even ONE generation for those Vikings to adopt Slavic culture?Not even ONE generation.If Slavs are niggers, then surely that would not be the case, imagine an English colonist going to Africa and converting to local animism while wearing a bush to hide his dick instead of the underwear.Right, unimaginable. Lmao.
Slavs:>conducted raids into Scandinavia>occupy the largest chunk of Europe>have their genes spread all the way to the south of Greece>lead circles around the early VenetiansAlong with actually having very much alive nationalisms while you're taught to be ashamed of your own heritage.Off to sleep, I've done enough.\
>>545058399I won´t denie that the "you would speak German!" was a simplified exaggeration. I was chatting with someone who is, quite literally, mentally challenged.>Weimar heritage and their ties to USSR from Rapale agreements were cruical to the German war effortDude, the topic of the Nazi era is covered in history classes in Germany over the course of three years. Many German weapons (aircraft parts, tank parts) were developed in partnership with the Soviets and yet it feels as if the SU hasn't learned anything from us
>>545059311>Dude, the topic of the Nazi era is covered in history classes in Germany over the course of three years. Many German weapons (aircraft parts, tank parts) were developed in partnership with the Soviets and yet it feels as if the SU hasn't learned anything from usIf there any mention NKVD and SS working together in the 30s to catch jewish rats? They do not talk about it here.
>>545046048>putin is a history buffhe's just like me!
>>545059311>as if the SU hasn't learned anything from usWrong, Soviet tanks were more advanced in 1939 (at least, speaking about the best designs like KV). Immobilized KV held a line at one point for three days during operation Barbarossa because your anti-tank guns were unable to puncture it, this is IIRC sourced from you and is not some Soviet invention. Germans were praising the Russian tanks. I cannot say Russians were "more advanced" than you or "less advanced". There were things lacking in each army. For example, do you know what crippeld Soviet airpower the most? Garbage Shvak cannons on their airplanes compared to minengeschoss some German airplanes had.The thing is, your dismissal of the Russians is something the high command never did. They only did that on political level but in their brains and dialogues they did not do that.SOviet army failed on the political level, which is not the army's field. Stalin thought that Hitler would not open a second front and thought the air recon Germany did to stage Barbarossa would benefit him as a scare tactic because of the equipment you saw. Your only hope of victory was to knock them out in the first few months. You know what, I do not really like the most of the Russian mentality that much, but one thing I find respectable and that's what Germans noted too.Any people that suffered such criminality in the USSR would have jumped to the German side without a second thought. They also got surprise attacked too, with not enough fuel or ammo. Their officers were green cadre idiots and poltiically selected. What do they do? They fight back and beat you instead. Even if you say it's lend lease, it is something to respect and this is why Hitler said you are no master race at the end (of course you deny that table talks are a real thing because of this).And it's just pure patriotism, Stalin realised they are not fighting for him but for Russia, hence a communist started blabbering about Mother Russia, Slavs etc.
>>545059467>If there any mention NKVD and SS working together in the 30s to catch jewish rats? They do not talk about it hereThe only thing that comes to mind is the collaboration in Poland during the occupation, because they held completely opposing ideologies. Or were you talking about the exchange of "dissidents"?
>>545058306Coerced labor was a systemic phenomenon, but its role in industrial industrialization is often exaggerated. The GULAG, with its roughly 2 million prisoners on the eve of the war, was of only marginal significance for industrialization. Forced labor rather harmed the economy, since it was low-productivity and was used for inefficient 'construction projects of the century' (for example, the White Sea Canal). The main labor force in industry consisted of free-hired workers and collective farmers.>'Still lagged behind the West until the fall of the USSR'You ignore the dynamics: growth rates were among the highest in the world. From 1929 to the mid-1950s, average annual GDP growth is estimated at 6.7%. The USSR made a leap from an agrarian to an industrial power. If the USSR 'lagged until the fall,' then how can one explain that it created an industrial base that allowed it to withstand a war with Germany (which at that time was technologically more advanced)?
>>545059852It is even more hilarious when it comes to Yugoslavia where a band of divided south Slavs into several groups managed to liberate first territory from the Axis + inflict 100k casaulties + proxy casaulties while being undersupplied and at each other's throats. Slavs do not think in terms of a master race but in terms of sheer tenacity and grit we have proven ourselves and the will to defend ourselves. You went all in (respect) and lost - and the loss was so total to you because you were the one to escalate it to totality.Learn to respect the dead especially in a struggle like WWII. If we do not learn to respect each other and our capacity to kill, more will die for little reason. After this total struggle the right wingers of Europe still want more, as if enough haven't died., and right winger ideology is not gaining tract because all we promise is more rivalry, hatred and digging up WWII and Hitler because "you" do not have confidence in your present selves and have to find a real man in some past to venerate him.
>>545046048>KYIV
Btw. On the topic of equipment superiority.The success of the Germans in Belgium and France was not because you had some advanced technology, this is a stupid fallacy and actually takes away from your credit.You won many victories because of an amazing office cadre and inventive generals who took daring risks and won. Most of the big countries you were at war with had (at least initially) better tanks for example. But French did not have mobile warfare divisions because CdG was ignored and they were deployed with infantry.
Reading up on Sweden's gov policies:-more police-more police powers-more police cameras-harsher penalties for elder rape-more drones-faster citizenship processIncredible things are happening in Sweden.
>>545046048>WE WUZ RURIK AND SHIET>lecture about medieval Slavic historyso, does this mean...Scandinavians have claims on all lands occupied by Russia and Slavs?(finally the missing puzzle piece arrived to make sense of our world)
>>545057218This Putin and his expansionist ideology can fuck off
