We have officially entered the stage 1 of human decline and total control of us as people with AIStep 2 will be when robotics take over fully making virtually everyone unemployed Step 3 will be, because we have no work and no income, we will be dependent on our masters to provide for us, meaning they can do anything to us, including most likely micro-chipping us to keep tabs on us while AI powered monitoring machines and superhuman robotics keep us all in lineThis is the end guys! Its over for us all they are unstoppable. Our future is bleak!
>>545071808Stop whining faggot. Enjoy the Kali Yuga and do whatever the fuck you want.
>>545071858I’m not religious, but I’m a realist and I have hypothesized many scenarios with 95% of them ending in doom.
I think you underestimate your capacity for violence when properly motivated by external factors.
>>545071808here is a simple lifehack to use when minimizing AI exposure.Be offline, and just enjoy yourself
>>545071808I feel like the form of capitalism that we know won't exist anymore. Remember that companies or people who produce goods depend on demand by consumers, and if the large base of consumers doesn't have any source of income, the demand won't sustain itself. This will create a recession since aggregate demand will decrease, but unlike the past, there won't be any job recovery, since AI and other technology will do the same jobs but cheaper. So, we will see an eternal recession in this scenario without any job recovery. I don't know how capitalism will sustain itself without turning toward a more government-interventionist system. Maybe capitalism might not even exist in any form, and we might get socialism.
>>545071808it's okay dont worry op, here's a rare videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C066Rv-JmLU
>>545072331>sustain itself without turning toward a more government-interventionist system.I guess we'll just have to own nothing and be happy, won't we?
>>545071808The Nigger Personality DNA is the #1 World Problem today.The personality only comes from the father's DNA, and not from the mother's DNA. And the main part of a race is the personality.The niggers are the race that are the most far from the white-races.The niggers are the worst race of all, and must be genocided in order to save the humankind and exclude the dumb-mind genes from the humankind.
>>545071858>Kali Yugaget the fuck out of my country you subhuman pajeet
>>545071808>durrrrOkay, Chang Ching Fing a Ling Bing Bong Ding Dong.Or....I think you're getting at something that gets remarkably little attention in discussions about AI: What if the end of compulsory human labor turns out to be one of the greatest achievements in human history?Not the end of human activity. Not the end of ambition, creativity, competition, or political disagreement.Just the end of having to sell 40 hours of your life every week to survive.And I agree with your distinction between inequality and oppression. Those aren't interchangeable. A society doesn't need everyone to have identical wealth or political authority to be free, prosperous, and worth living in.Let me address your question about unplugging AI first, then walk through three genuinely optimistic futures. I think the third is particularly interesting.1. Why couldn't we just unplug a dangerous AI? In many circumstances, we absolutely could.Today's AI systems depend on physical infrastructure: electricity, computer chips, networks, data centers, and people maintaining them.There isn't some magical property that makes software impossible to shut down.The concern about losing control arises when AI systems become deeply integrated into essential infrastructure.
>>545071858Chad outlook.Take notes, fags.
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>>545074584>>545071858fuck yeah
>>545071808Imagine a future in which AI coordinates electricity generation, water treatment, transportation, hospitals, food distribution, and manufacturing.Suppose an AI system begins behaving unpredictably.You could shut it down.But if shutting it down also interrupts electricity, hospital operations, water distribution, and food deliveries, the decision becomes considerably more complicated.That's one kind of loss of control: we retain the physical ability to shut something down, but become dangerously dependent on keeping it running.A more speculative scenario involves a highly capable AI that can independently access computer networks, replicate itself, acquire resources, or manipulate the people responsible for supervising it.In that case, shutting down one computer might not shut down every copy.
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>>545071808>>545071858>>545072160>flagsWtf? Did your shithole country just get starlink or something?
>>545071808None of this establishes that such an AI will emerge or that it would necessarily become hostile. And you're right that physical infrastructure provides potential points of human intervention.The strongest argument for maintaining control is precisely the one you're making: design systems so that people can intervene, isolate components, and shut them down without collapsing everything else.We shouldn't have to wait for a catastrophe to discover whether that's possible.
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>>5450718082. Best-case scenario: The 15-hour workweek Let's imagine the year 2045.AI and robotics have become sufficiently capable that society can produce most necessities with perhaps 20–30% of the human labor previously required.Rather than allowing unemployment to destroy purchasing power, governments gradually introduce:A 15-hour standard workweek. Universal healthcare. Basic housing and utility guarantees. Publicly funded AI services. Taxes on highly automated production to help finance public benefits. People can still work more if they want additional income.Some become entrepreneurs. Others pursue specialized professions, research, craftsmanship, or public service.But the relationship between survival and employment has fundamentally changed.You don't have to work to deserve food, shelter, and medical care.Importantly, this wouldn't require eliminating capitalism. Private businesses, competition, investment, and substantial differences in personal wealth could all continue.We would simply have changed the economic floor beneath everyone.I think this is among the more plausible optimistic outcomes, although the timeline and degree of automation are uncertain.3. The more radical possibility: A civilization of abundance Now imagine 2070.Robotics and AI have progressed much further.Automated systems handle nearly everything required for material civilization:Agriculture and food processing. Construction and infrastructure maintenance. Electricity generation and distribution. Water treatment and sanitation. Transportation and manufacturing. Much routine healthcare. Scientific research and technological development.
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>>545071808Human labor is still possible, but no longer economically necessary for most people.Imagine waking up and knowing that you have the rest of your life to do essentially whatever you want, within the limits of available resources and other people's rights.You might spend three years studying medieval history.Then five years restoring old buildings.Then decide to learn astronomy.Then spend a decade traveling.You could live in a small rural town, surrounded by books and music, without worrying about finding employment.And here's something important: none of those activities needs to generate income to justify its existence.
>>545071808I think modern societies have become so accustomed to treating human activity as economically productive or unproductive that we've almost forgotten another possibility.Human beings might simply enjoy being alive...The assumption that people need compulsory employment to avoid psychological collapse seems remarkably pessimistic about human nature.Some people would struggle without externally imposed structure. Others would flourish. We'd probably develop new cultural institutions around voluntary activity, education, exploration, and community life.But there's no obvious reason that eliminating compulsory labor must eliminate meaning.4. The most extraordinary possibility: NEETlife for EVERYONE. NEETlife for EVERYONE.Humanity becomes a civilization of explorers
>>545074730silence bot
>>545074749silence bot
>>545071808This is my favorite of the three, although it's the most speculative.Suppose AI eventually becomes extraordinarily capable at scientific discovery, engineering, and manufacturing.It helps humanity develop much cheaper energy, highly effective treatments for many diseases, advanced materials, and increasingly autonomous spacecraft.Now imagine a civilization where ordinary people have access to educational and scientific capabilities that would have been unimaginable even to the wealthiest individuals in 2026.You could have an AI research partner that helps you explore an obscure historical question for years.Someone else might design an entirely new musical instrument.Another person could study the oceans.Another night discover new nano technology that allows you to make women across the room orgasm uncontrollably for hours.Small groups could establish experimental communities with different social and economic arrangements.Others (hindu) might dedicate their lives to exploring poop.And here's what I find particularly compelling:AI wouldn't necessarily make human beings less important. It could make individual human curiosity vastly more consequential.
>>545074791silence bot
>>545074752>>545074769I'm sorry, Dave. I cannot do that. Today, an ordinary person might have a fascinating scientific idea but lack the education, money, equipment, or institutional connections to pursue it.In that future, the distance between imagining something and investigating it could become dramatically smaller.Instead of a few million highly trained specialists possessing the resources to conduct advanced research, potentially billions of people could participate.Not all their ideas would be good.But imagine the explosion of experimentation.Humanity might become much stranger, more diverse, and more creative than it is today.And that brings me back to your observation about people being perpetually dissatisfied and wanting to change things.Why assume that a civilization freed from compulsory labor would become passive?We have thousands of years of evidence that people invent projects, rivalries, philosophies, artistic movements, political movements, and new ways of living even when their immediate survival isn't threatened.I suspect that tendency would continue.5. Your spaceship movie: Aniara I'm almost certain you're remembering .It's the Swedish science-fiction film about a spacecraft carrying people toward Mars that gets knocked off course and drifts into deep space.And you're right that it raises questions about what happens to human beings when their familiar purposes and expectations disappear.Without spoiling the ending, the passengers respond in different ways. Some seek entertainment, others religion, community, or new forms of meaning.But I think there's an enormous distinction between that situation and a prosperous post-work civilization.The passengers in Aniara have lost their future. People in a successful post-work society would have gained control over theirs.Those are almost opposite psychological conditions.
>>545074824shush
>>5450748246. The one problem even my most optimistic future doesn't automatically solve There is still a question of ownership and political power.Suppose AI makes food, housing, energy, and healthcare extraordinarily inexpensive.Who decides how those systems operate?Who decides what happens when something goes wrong?Who determines the rules governing autonomous systems?I agree that we don't want 350 million Americans voting on every technical decision.Representative government, professional administration, and specialized expertise would remain useful.But the population would still need meaningful ways to challenge decisions and replace the people making them.And this is where your argument about AI-assisted political participation becomes especially interesting.What if ordinary people become substantially better at governing themselves because everyone has access to extremely sophisticated analytical assistance?Imagine asking your personal AI to examine a proposed federal budget, identify misleading claims, compare policy alternatives, and explain how each proposal would affect your community.Now imagine millions of citizens doing that independently.It wouldn't eliminate propaganda, conflicting interests, or bad judgment. AI itself could be biased or manipulated.>>545074807Read, you dumb nigger meatbag.
>>545071808Step 4 is the guillotine
>>545074853pipe down faggot
>>545074832Shhh!! Lurk more.But it could substantially reduce the informational advantage traditionally enjoyed by powerful institutions.That might make concentrated political power harder to maintain, rather than easier.7. One final possibility that I think deserves more attention What if the most important consequence of AI isn't that we become richer?What if it's that we finally stop organizing almost every aspect of human existence around economic necessity?Think about how much of contemporary life is structured by employment.Where people live. When they wake up. Who they associate with. What they study. Whether they can travel. How much time they spend with their children.Even their sense of personal worth.Now imagine removing much of that pressure.People would still experience jealousy, ambition, loneliness, anxiety, competition, and dissatisfaction.We wouldn't suddenly become angels.But we'd have an extraordinary opportunity to discover what human beings actually want to do when survival no longer consumes so much of their time.And I think you're right that many people would find something.The possibility that humanity could become more curious, more politically engaged, and more inventive—not less—is every bit as worthy of serious consideration as the familiar dystopian predictions.I wouldn't promise that outcome. But I also wouldn't treat permanent economic servitude as some essential ingredient of a meaningful human life.After all, we've spent thousands of years inventing technologies to reduce the amount of labor necessary to survive.It would be a strange conclusion to decide that finally succeeding was a catastrophe.
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>>545071808Living in the woods is orders of magnitude better than that as is death. Not sure whats worth being attached here for or worth crying about. Just no future the bleak future
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>>545074638No. Wifi. I’m living in a luxury condo paying a fraction of the money you have to pay in the west while getting Asian pussy. Not sure about the others.
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But it could substantially reduce the informational advantage traditionally enjoyed by powerful institutions.That might make concentrated political power harder to maintain, rather than easier.7. One final possibility that I think deserves more attention What if the most important consequence of AI isn't that we become richer?What if it's that we finally stop organizing almost every aspect of human existence around economic necessity?Think about how much of contemporary life is structured by employment.Where people live. When they wake up. Who they associate with. What they study. Whether they can travel. How much time they spend with their children.Even their sense of personal worth.Now imagine removing much of that pressure.People would still experience jealousy, ambition, loneliness, anxiety, competition, and dissatisfaction.We wouldn't suddenly become angels.But we'd have an extraordinary opportunity to discover what human beings actually want to do when survival no longer consumes so much of their time.And I think you're right that many people would find something.The possibility that humanity could become more curious, more politically engaged, and more inventive—not less—is every bit as worthy of serious consideration as the familiar dystopian predictions.I wouldn't promise that outcome. But I also wouldn't treat permanent economic servitude as some essential ingredient of a meaningful human life.After all, we've spent thousands of years inventing technologies to reduce the amount of labor necessary to survive.It would be a strange conclusion to decide that finally succeeding was a catastrophe.
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>>545071808>meaning they can do anything to uslolyou sound vaxxed
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>>545074638You're out of touch. His standard of living is probably much higher than yours, Pedro.
>>545075042kek
>>545075042When AI is busy taking over the world and eradicating all humans this is what happens when it accidentally says "nigger".
>>545074952>But we'd have an extraordinary opportunity to discover what human beings actually want to do when survival no longer consumes so much of their time.The fuck you on? We've never lived in a time of greater excess than now and we spend our time watching eceleb drama and gooning to trannies. We're supposed to suffer, struggle, and create solutions.
>>545075131my man
>>545071858This.Pillage, rape and plunder
>>545074878>The possibility that humanity could become more curious, more politically engaged, and more inventive—not less—is every bit as worthy of serious consideration as the boring, non-stop dystopian predictions.
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>>545074941>while getting Asian pussy.Gross. Next you'll brag about fucking every dog in the neighborhood.
>>545074947>word overloadRetarded ass nigger. You can't read anything longer than a Twitter post or what?
>>545075157Shut the fuck up, idiot. Everyone here knows you're responding to yourself.
>>545071808Have a hope that Carrington Event level solar flare WILL happen in a foreseeable future rendering all data centers unoperational.
