Everything we've been taught was wrongTrust the science
Holy fuckThe math shit was a funny meme cause it was meaningless nonsense but this is actually important shit about algorithmic complexity.
>>545072140can someone eli5?
>>545072140I need a qrd
>>545072301turns out it wasn't important
>>545072348Hypothesis that says certain type of problem is very very hard, AI says it's actually only very hard
pretty crazy, OpenAI releases 327 proofs of solved problems terminating the careers of 100s of mathematicians, yet one filed was left out - cryptography ahahhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yXtXTwz4J4
>>545072140time travel is impossible"time" as a measurable resource is a lie.what we measure is cycles, the repetitoin of an action due to a repeating cycle.we interpret that as time.if the sun, moon as stars were to disapear, and we were just left with eternal light, we wouldn't know how much time has passed, in any meaningful way, unless we measured cycles and actions.so, "exponential time" is a moot point, since there needs to be a real thing as time in the first place, a tangible resource, which there is not.an immortal doesn't measure in time, it measures in results through perfect actions.now, a mortal, a mortal requires time, and measures in results in time through actions.immortals created time for mortals, and thereby use time only in reference to mortals.>time is moneymoney is results produced in the shortest acceptable time through actions.you see? time isn't real, its just a frame. if a cycle is broken, then time can no longer be measured, why? because the repetition was the standard, seen from the mortal point of perception."these many cycles" "this effect" "this energy expenditure" and so on.cycles are used to manage resources, and that is to maximize the efficiency of output/results.so if a cycle is broken? and the need for efficiency made moot? then what is time? irrelevant.if i no longer need sustenance, or rest, or have wants, then what is time?an unwelcome constraint, unless turned into a form of entertainment.
>>545072140It was just a hypothesis to begin with
>>545072140https://youtu.be/ZnwgwbDSEg4
AI confirms nothing ever happens
>>545072140>Computer, tell me the science is wrong.>>"Beep, boop. The science is wrong.">Duuuude, woooow!
So space time is lie?
They're working on the P= NP problem and if it's found in the affirmative we're all completely fucked.
>>545072140It's a glorified search engine that searches through all data and algorithms
>>545072575"The Unique Games Conjecture (UGC) is a foundational hypothesis in computational complexity theory proposed in 2002 by Indian-American computer scientist Subhash Khot"
>>545076020The public version is but it's also a way to crunch loads of data and formulate how to crunch more data. It basically maximizes its own computing potential.
>>545072140p still doesn't equal np so nothing breaks.
>>545075986meh irrelevant, its just an arms race like everything else
>>545072140i think gravity ages people
>>545072575Writing a proof and having it be correct are two different things. None of those have been verified yet, and AI is known to be a habitual liar.
>>545076140also im a brainlet
>>545076138It isn't irrelevant at all. The Exponential Time Hypothesis is a strong version of P=/=NP. Most people who study the problem assume P=/=NP but if AI solves P=NP is pretty much solves all of mathematics instantaneously and all cryptography is gone.
>>545072140WAOW new AI marketing slop just dropped, this AI generated 100 MB slop Lean file proves something, if you try to decipher it, it would take you multiple months that are enough for the IPO to finish.
>>545076172>all chryptogaphy is gonethis is what I mean, it's just an arms race. If digital cryptography is gone, then another system will be used. shit, go back to physical keys or something.>oh no hecking international finance can't operateoh shit what a shame
>>545076143They use formal theorem checkers for these things. Doesn't mean that it's 100% guaranteed to be correct, but it's not at all the same thing as letting an AI talk to itself until it's convinced that it has a proof and then trusting it. Nobody would take that seriously
more retarded what ifs...meanwhile niggers are raping your women
>>545072140There's a giant circle jerk at Sam Altman and his boyfriend's house with little children again. Why are kikes such fucking worthless rodent pedophiles?>>545073171Ai
>it's 2030>everyone uses number stations to buy dragon dildos onlinehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXz6ghbfd2U
>>545076237You don't get it at all. It's like there are two systems: one that finds a solution and one that affirms the solution is correct. If P=NP it means that both systems can be contained within the same number of steps. This means that you no longer have to search for solutions, which is why mathematical proofs can taken hundreds of years to work out, but can skip to the quickest way to affirm a solution, how mathematicians can read through and know a proof that took hundreds of years to find us correct. Everything going offline would be a major change, retard.
>>545076357on the contrary, I understand the situation as a whole better than you do. Nothing will happen. The people who run the show won't allow it. I wish a motherfucker would
>>545072140Ok but how will this improve my life?
>>545072140>ai took 27 years of research and fabricated a conjecture after stealing the private logs of scientists who thought the platform was secureFixed that headline for you.
>>545076400You obviously don't, retard. Hand waving toward a phantom elite you imagine yourself to be hyper aware of when it comes to their ins and outs isn't an actual base of knowledge, fuckwit.
>O(x^n) time function>train heuristic at vastly slower than x^n>heuristic runs faster than x^n
>>545076463okay, well up until this point in time I am correct. I continue to be correct. Please do let me know when I stop being correct. Have a wonderful day. Also in case it escaped your attention, everything became shit since the internet.
>>545073171>time travel is impossibleDepends on what you mean by "time travel" and the method used to do it.If you mean building a science machine which can thrust you backwards in time?No, not possible at all.But using a method or machines which can slow down your aging or "overclock" your brain processing you can simulate the momentum of "slowing down time" to ridiculous levels or cryofreezing and underclock brain processing speed making it simulate traveling forwards in time at ridiculous speeds.But yeah, going backwards in time is not possible.
>>545076419It will make it worse.
>>545072140dude slop grenade lmaonow verify it math cucks
>>545076522You're not correct, retard. You're what's known as "not even wrong".
>>545072140ai don miss
>>545076047>Subhash Khot
>>545076557/thread
>>545076342>Aii'm LITERALLY not ai.i had to use 30% of my 89IQ to formulate that post, and you just disregarded it like it was some shitskin grok prompt.fuckayou nigger, at least attack the substance of my post and not your presumed "insight" on whether or not i was using ai (which i wasn't)you retarded jeetskin nigger.THAT WAS ALL ME (and God, which guides me) NOT AI!
>>545076249>Doesn't mean that it's 100% guaranteed to be correcthow many people understand that? too few
>>545072140P != NP bros starting to look real nervous about now
>>545076543neither of those are time travel though, you aren't doing anything "in time" you are just accelerating (or slowing down, depending on the direction) your perception and/or actions.and most actions take longer as you go up in scale, and are faster the smaller you go in scale.what of perception? is time eternal from the point of view of an atom? is time short at the scale of the universe?if time is irrelevant, then there's only matter energy and thought (the consciousness)and consciousness directs matter through energy, and that right there is where the need for "time" resides.how much energy is spent to move this object over there.X amounts of energycan we less energy? yes, but ....and there is the elusive "time".energy spend to move matter = speed and its through speed that we came to "time"so what we have been calling time this whole...time, is speed.how fast we perceive, how fast we understand, how fast we move out of the way, how fast we recoverspeed is the basis of "time", if we can do more in a smaller tract of space that is a measurement of time>oxen plowing a field in a day>how long it takes for a set measurement of water to falland so on, time is speed of a set measurement of matter interacting with nature at a steady portioned rate. its always about speed, everything else used to measure speed is just there to test if the rate has changed from the original perceived state.>the travel of an arrow through the air>the falling of a rock from a set heighttime travel in any capacity is a lie, because all of "time" has been about measuring speed at a steady rate, thats it.scars are failures to catch up to someone that was faster than you, and planning is an attempt at being faster than someone else.but to travel to the future or past, or measure time itself, impossible, at best you can guess what the potential trajectory of your target will be, but there's always someone faster, Pheidippides(no, its not AI, stop it)
>>545077262>1 != 1*0um...bros...i'm scared.
>>545072140>27 year old belief>Everything we have been taught
>>545073171> retard schizo goes off due to mention of "time"It's about algorithmic complexity, retard.
>>545076741Having a fit like a bitch surely proves your low iq, Allison.
>>545076741I know you are speaking the truth because i've come to understand these same things too, all there is, is the eternal now, that is God, changes just mean things are happening but it does not imply time, the revelation is when people will finally understand what they were looking at their whole lives, not new information.
>>545072140Yesterday AI told me there is no Polish translation of Huntrix songs, while week earlier I've watched it on Netflix and they sang dubbed Polish versions.Try it - ask AI if there is official polish dubbed version of huntrix songs. It will tell you there aren't any.
>>545072573Not surprising. This is just the beginning. Jews have been holding us back for decades and AI is breaking the dam. This is why they’re crying for kosher laws to slow it down. Thankfully China is moving ahead and so they’re forced to keep pace.
>>545073171You do know time is actually measured by cesium atoms right? The sun could blow up right now and there will still be ways to measure time through atoms with micro seconds accuracy
>>545072140>>545072573>>math nerds coming up with problems that aren't profitable, asks for more expensive hardware and money to solve gets BTFO'd>>sam altman with hundreds of millions of dollars and access to ass loads of the highest end hardware >>openAi a for-profit company spending untold millions to get a half-reliable answer to math nerds unprofitable problems because it cant solve actual profitable problems(cancer, energy, etc)That'll be 2 trillion IPO, no refunds.
Protip: The same Christian golems calling AI demons are the same Christian golems calling aliens demons.
>>545077417neither of those are time travel though, you aren't doing anything "in time" you are just accelerating (or slowing down, depending on the direction) your perception and/or actions.So you're talking about universal time manipulation. No, that's not possible.I was talking about limitted SIMULATED time manipulation. Which I believe is very possible.
>>545077880Lol you believe in the theory of atoms? That shit has not been scientifically shown to exist. >>"Too small to see" well how do you know its there?>>"We made the sample and looked at it with an electron microscope"Well how do you know that in making the sample you created what you were looking for? Why didnt you just take a sample from nature unaltered?>>"Oy vey this guy is onto us!"
>>545072140>no qrdgod i hate memeflags
>>545072140Call me when they solve gravity.
>>545072348this is a baby step towards P=NP,where P is a class of problems that can be solvedand NP is a class of problems that can be checked.>huh?in cryptography (the thing that lets the modern internet run) you need problems that take a really long time to solve but are really quick to check.if P=NP, then algorithms exist that mean we can solve problems as fast as we can check them, so modern cryptography is dead (and, more relevantly, 4chins).if you like buying things with money online, or doing anything "anonymously",then this is a problem.
>>545077990Protip: it's all demons.
>>545076143this is such a cope...motherfucker, it's lean4.if you've ever used lean, you know it's more pedantic than even the most pedantic human mathematician.you don't need to "trust" the ai's words,but it's a fool's errand to think that lean4 will be wrong.
>>545078306>it's demons all the way downyes. yes, it is.
>>545076570OG Futurists are back lmaoACCELERATE
>>545076020if our brains were fast enough we'd try to brute force solutions too
>>545072140Nick Land already disproved time like 25 years ago
>>545075986>DUDE WE ARE SO BACK WE HAVE FOUND THST P=NP BUT NP PROBLEMS HAVE N^100 TIME COMPLEXITY I LOVE POLYNOMIALS!!!
>>545077990>implying it's not demonshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhBNuArGuWQ
>>545072140>Everything we've been taught was wrong>Trust the scienceWhat’s with these sensationalist slogans that sound like they belong to a YouTube grifter peddling alternative worldviews?
>>545078234CDT just werks Loll
>>545077990https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rdpJztS28A
>>545075979In 1920, Einstein gave a now-famous lecture at the University of Leiden titled "Ether and the Theory of Relativity." He had spent fifteen years convincing everyone that the traditional mechanical aether didn't exist. But once he finished his math for General Relativity, he realized that if space has properties and controls how things move, it is functionally acting exactly like an aether. [1, 2, 3]During that lecture, he openly admitted:"According to the general theory of relativity, space is endowed with physical qualities; in this sense, therefore, there exists an ether. According to the general theory of relativity, space without ether is unthinkable..." [1]Why don't textbooks say that?If the creator of the theory admitted it, why does it feel hidden or treated like a scam today? It boils down to academic rebranding and a fierce scientific turf war:Avoiding the "I told you so": In the early 1900s, the old guard of physics fought ruthlessly against relativity because they wanted to keep their mechanical, jelly-like aether. When Einstein's math proved superior, the new generation of physicists wanted to completely scrub the word "aether" from textbooks to signal that the old guard had lost.The Rebrand: Instead of calling it a "relativistic aether," the scientific community chose the term spacetime. It meant they could talk about the background properties of the universe without using the toxic, outdated word that carried decades of baggage. [1, 2]
>>545078284This is what I feared and with 70% of the internet hacked, how much longer will bitcoin last?
>>545079399relativity was conclusively falsified in 1949 after the sagnac experiment was performed while accounting for rotating frames of reference. the only reason relativity exists in the first place was an attempt to refute 1886 M&M experiment that proved the earth was not in motion.
