How were the neocons any worse than Trump and MAGA, or were all that bad at all? I just turned 28, so I was a kid in the 2000s and barely remember what politics was like back then. There’s all this talk of how “neocons” like Bush, Cheney, etc. were allegedly pure evil and that America needs to be purged of anything “neocon.” But how were they really all that worse than what America has now with Trump? The 2000s seemed incredibly blissful compared to today. I get that people were upset about the Iraq War but was that really the fault of the neocons or just typical American imperialism?Also, the “Straussian cabal” doesn’t exist, but if it did, so what? Leo Strauss was actually quite based. He was very pro-traditionalism and endlessly called out the moral relativism and lack of virtue in politics which lead to the degeneracy we see today. He also supported fascism originally on the basis it was a “return to Rome” (wanted to join the Nazis but couldn’t because he was Jewish) and even called out Carl Schmitt for not being anti-liberal and reactionary enough. Wouldn’t we support “Straussians” in politics?
>>545073102>Bring back the neoconsfuck those kikes and fuck you too, OP, you memeflag kike
neocons are bad but infinitely better than the MAGA cult of rural white trash hicks
Anyone else here joining the 'democrats who love bush' coalition
>>545073221This. Neocons mostly fucked up other countries so the damage they did here was opportunity cost of money not spent at home. The miggers are intent on destroying everything here while the world moves on without us.
>>545073102Vance is close enough to a neocon. He's even worse in many ways than a neocon from my perspective. Vance not only loves israel, he also loves india and russia.
Neoconservatives are the most evil people in American politics.The crux of neocon ideology is Jewish supremacy and the belief that America must dominate the world. The godfather of neoconservatism Leo Strauss taught that political elites should see themselves as philosopher kings and lie to the vulgar masses of people in order to keep the masses in-check. When philosophers aren’t ruling overtly, they should rule covertly.Strauss' student Paul Wolfowitz came up with the Wolfowitz Doctrine, which called for massive military spending and preemptive invasions of foreign nations hostile to America. This doctrine was revived by neocons first with Clean Break, which called for a U.S. invasion of Iraq as early as 1999 under the name “Operation Desert Crossing," and then with Bill Kristol and Robert Kagan's Project for the New American Century, which specifically called for a “NEW PEARL HARBOR” to justify said policies. Bill and his father Irving Kristol were die-hard followers of Strauss and sought to implement his thought any way they could. The Straussian cabal is very real and has been carefully manipulating American politics from the Nixon era onward.POWER OF NIGHTMAREShttps://youtube.com/watch?v=jxBbw13Y3GcA VERY HEAVY AGENDA (PNAC + 9/11)https://www.bitchute.com/video/mbaAPILY8XmM/Neocon analysishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Oh6DmjQahohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NNEkcfxxHUWolfowitz = Jewish supremacisthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxz06SwfnlUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jlv4YRKnHcNeocons are satanichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNYidsuhaKYNeocon originshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0C157Wmm6EZionist Jew YouTuber: "Claiming Jews were behind Iraq War is 'BLOOD LIBEL.'"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUA2Sy3jAZE&t=6013s(1:40:13)>"oy vey goyim, let us lie and deceive the public and give us the oil and let us establish a rothschild bank"They aren't even making an effort to hide it anymore.Total neocon death
>>545073221No one from MAGA is anywhere close to as evil as Paul Wolfowitz. Arguably the biggest criminal of the 21st century.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKDMd1VIJpQ
>>545073102It does not matter who sits in the White House if the underlying trajectory stays the same. Neocons under Bush expanded the empire with Iraq and Afghanistan, ran up debt, and opened the door wider to mass non European immigration under the same free market globalist logic that had already been running for decades. Trump and MAGA talked restriction, built some wall segments, and cut a few regulations, yet legal immigration numbers stayed high, H1B continued, and the demographic replacement numbers barely slowed. Both camps operated inside the same post 1965 framework that prioritizes cheap labour, open capital flows, and alliance with Israel over the long term continuity of the historic American nation. The Iraq War was classic American power projection mixed with specific neoconservative priorities around regime change and regional dominance for strategic partners. It was not uniquely evil compared to earlier interventions. It was simply more expensive and less successful. The 2000s felt calmer because the demographic transformation was less advanced, smartphones had not yet atomized attention, and elite institutions still pretended to some residual competence. That relative calm was temporary.
>>545073620Leo Strauss diagnosed the soft relativism of late liberalism accurately. Some of his students drifted into neoconservatism and foreign policy activism. Whether a pure Straussian cabal existed is secondary. What matters is that neither neocons nor MAGA reversed the core trends of fertility collapse among European descended Americans, elite capture by groups with dual loyalties, and the steady dilution of the founding stock. Personnel changes at the top do not fix civilizational level selection pressures and group interests.
miggers are just incompetent neocons
>>545073102Rubio is a neocon.
>>545073845Trump is not a neocon. His problem is he has too many neocons around him.
>>545073102Nasa hoax.marxism masonic guild get off the board
The fuck are people talking about Strauss all of a sudden?
>>545074050Last month was the 25th anniversary of the 9/11 false flag that was orchestrated by American Straussians working with Mossad. PNAC "NEW PEARL HARBOR" sums it all up.
>bring back the neoconsPlease jump in a meat grinder.
>>545073102Holy shut the fuck up, this site is so gay now
>>545073102>Bring back the neoconsWho the fuck told you that these retards were different than Trump?
>>545073344>fucked up other countriesWhere do you think all of those refugees came from? A lot of them are probably from avoidable wars.
>>545074050He was based. Give him a read.>>545074841>>545075007Neocons are smart as hell. MAGA are flaming retards. America would objectively be better with the neocons back in power.
>>545075007Interesting how the neocon nostalgia is happening right before the US midterms.
>>545073344Based Trump making life harder for amerimutt burgersharts. The world is breathing a sigh of relief at the collapse of lardgolem goycuck fupacunt femhag hollyweird niggercattle cornsyrupslop pedodollar tyranny
>>545073102> "make the rightwing win again"ftfy
I.... I can't tell. Trump makes bush look good somehow.
>>545075218>a hegelian i'll pass
>>545075689Bush has way more blood on his hands than Trump.Although, Paul Wolfowitz (a student of Leo Strauss and Strauss' student Allan Bloom) was the real mastermind behind most of the neocon evil.>>545073562
Didn't have the stupid populist lululu look at me I'm being random MAGA stuff at least
The purpose of the neocons is to put jews in control of the GOP to fight wars on behalf of israel. Trump has sold out to the jews so he IS a neocon. You might say he's not ideologically aligned with neocons but it doesn't matter because Trump hasn't behaved ideologically this entire term. He handles policy issues separately based on whatever policy issues are most important to his wealthy donors. The MAGA or America First ideology is dead and Trump killed it
Also way less corrupt, which might be more important I guess
>>545073102>Bring back the neoconsThey never left dude. Why do you think nothing gets done and the status quo stays unchanged? All the Republicans who do nothing and let the Democrats play them for fools are Neo Cons. Neo Cons are the Uniparty, they're the phony conservative controlled opposition face of the globalist fist up your ass.>or were all that bad at all? They passed the Patriot Act which unleashed an era of government surveillance and they started two 20 year long wars in Afghanistan and Iraq on behalf of Israel that cost us about $12 TRILLION which is about $100,000 of taxes for every man, woman and child in the country.You tell me, were they bad?
>>545076094Trump is NOT a neocon, which is precisely the reason why the deep state has been trying to remove him from day one.
>>545076163They haven't been trying very hard.
Deep state is a cope for people who don't understand their government and don't want to take responsibility for falling for absolute retard politicians.
>>545076382>>545076411We know the 2020 was rigged.We know Jan 6th was a false flag.We know the wave of political violence that happened in America right after Trump won in 2024 was all about destabilizing America to prevent Trump from getting America out of NATO, identical to how the Italian Years of Lead was concocted by the CIA in order to prevent Italy from leaving NATO.The midterms will be rigged.
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>>545073102Neocons are gone and not coming back. Look at the trends. Cons under 40 are more conservative than the silent generation. Groypers are already infiltrating the GOP. It's over for any kind of faction that's not explicitly nationalist.
>>545073102Current Trump foreign policy is indistinguishable from neocon policy
>>545076787Trump isn't a neocon. He was blackmailed into attacking Iran.
>>545073102Think Trump but with less sense, plan or realism.
>>545076634Learn English, shill boy.
>>545073102>(wanted to join the Nazis but couldn’t because he was Jewish)Based as hell. NHH
>>545077149I'm white.
Daily reminder the Claremont Institute (Straussian neocons) virtually control Trump and Vance.Neocons never went away and their plot is being fulfilled by the current administration as we speak,
>>545076864Bullshit. The Claremont Institute is neocon and has full control over Trump and Vance.
>>545077936>>545077964Trump isn't a neocon.
