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Here is a part of his essay, 'The Case Against Democracy: Ten Red Pills':
1)Peace, prosperity, and freedom
blue pill:Democracy is responsible for the present state of peace, prosperity, and freedom in the US, Europe and Japan.
red pill:The rule of law is responsible for the present state of peace, prosperity and freedom in the US, Europe and Japan.
2)Democracy, freedom, and law
blue pill:Democracy is inseparable from freedom and law.
red pill:At best, democracy is sand in the gears of freedom and law. At worst it excludes them entirely, as in Iraq.
3)Fascism and communism
blue pill:The disasters of fascism and communism demonstrate the importance of representative democracy.
red pill:Fascism and communism are best understood as forms of democracy. The difference between single-party and multiparty democracy is like the difference between a malignant tumor and a benign one.
4)The nature of the state
blue pill:The state is established by citizens to serve their needs. Its actions are generally righteous.
red pill:The state is just another giant corporation. Its actions generally advance its own interests. Sometimes these interests coincide with ours, sometimes they don’t.
5)The power structure of the West
blue pill:Power in the West is held by the people, who have to guard it closely against corrupt politicians and corporations.
red pill:Power in the West is held by the civil service, that is, the permanent employees of the state. In any struggle between the civil service and politicians or corporations, the civil service wins.
6)The extent of the state
blue pill:The state consists of elected officials and their appointees.
red pill:The state consists of all those whose interests are aligned with the state. This includes NGOs, universities, and the press, all of whose employees are effectively civil servants, and side with the civil service in almost all conflicts.
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7)The danger of right-wing politics
blue pill:Right-wing politicians, and the ignorant masses who support them, are a danger to democracy. They must be stopped.
red pill:Right-wing politicians are a classic democratic phenomenon. Domestically, they have little power and are mostly harmless. Their international adventures are destructive, but they are inescapable consequences of democracy itself.
8)Democracy and nonpartisan government
blue pill:True democracy is not merely the rule of politicians. For a democracy to succeed, a nonpartisan decisionmaking process is essential. Civil servants, especially judges, must be isolated from politics, or they will become corrupt.
red pill:Democracy is politics. Any other definition is Orwellian. The absence of politics is the absence of democracy, and apolitical civil-service government is indeed better than democracy. But this is a low standard to surpass.
9)The history of Western government
blue pill:The present system of Western government is the result of adapting 19th-century classical liberalism to the complex modern world.
red pill:Western governments today are clones of the quasi-democratic FDR regime, whose best modern comparisons are leaders like Mubarak, Putin or Suharto. Its origin was the Progressive movement, which broke classical liberalism, then complained that it didn’t work.
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>>545079280
He should be fed his own intestines
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>>545079280
>democracy
US isn't a democracy
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10)The future of Western government
blue pill:The Western world is moving toward a globalized, transnational free market in which politics is increasingly irrelevant, and technocratic experts and NGOs play larger roles in fighting corruption, protecting the environment, and delivering essential public services.
red pill:Civil-service government works well at first, but it degrades. Its limit as time approaches infinity is sclerotic Brezhnevism. Its justification for ruling is inseparable from democracy, which is mystical nonsense and is rapidly disappearing. It cannot survive without a captive media and educational system, which the Internet will route around. Also, its financial system is a mess and could collapse at any minute. The whole thing will be lucky if it lasts another ten years.

(anyway,shouldn't have written 1/2 on OP,couldn't make it short)
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Plenty of non-democratic countries out there, let’s see how they’re doing…
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>>545079348
You vote in the primaries, not after, and you determine the person elected, democracy!
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>>545079280
this is just a bunch of crap to pretend its not the jews

goyim are so fucking gullible. is it a coincidence that the word goyim sounds so much like golem

everything the jews do is the msot evil shit imaginable to take over everything. even these guys are sitll jews trying to take over everything. defending pitbull is the samze as defending minorities who commit more crime to protect jews. jews wage the msot hybrid war possible on all fronts without exception, every aspect, every vector they poison. all to their benefit.

the woke golem are against israel so the jews are tyring to get rid of them. they ll make another one. WAKE UP GOY

NEVER BELIEVE JEWS
NEVER DO WHAT THEY TELL YOU
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OP it is obvious this is a nigger tier level thread and posted by a tranny who takes it up the ass from Tyrone. Never less you make me hot and I would like to fuck you in the ass. How about it OP would you like my hammer of love? H. Dark Maga
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>>545079401
>beaner doesn't understand republic/democracy
shocker
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>>545079280
I can't wait until robots take over so we can stop circle jerking around human nature.
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>>545079540
Bet you don't follow your own primaries, lol I determine your democratically elected leaders more than you
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>>545079586
robots ar emade by humans fuckign retard you cant circle around shit and human nature isnt real its aretard concepts by retardsfor retards who want to pretend to be smart
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>>545079375
OP's aspires to life as a low-tier sex slave in a post-apocalyptic local gang leader's gay harem.
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>>545079587
>voting = democracy!
dumb beaner is dumb
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>>545079280
Curtis Yarvin's entire conclusion was corporate rule and gargling Peter Thiel's balls.
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>>545079858
>conclusion was corporate rule and gargling Peter Thiel's balls.
So fall in line, fellow reactionaries, cough, I mean based accelerationists. Amirite fellow monopolists, cough, I mean end the fed Ron Paul lolberts? Technocracy, cough, I mean populist nationalism is here to take over the system!
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>>545079858
It's like if instead of the Boston Tea party the patriots were like let's have America be literally ruled by the British East India Company instead.
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>>545079633
>human nature isnt real
Look behind you. There is a nigger breaking into your store.
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>>545080352
so you re going to annihilate jewish political power in the USA or you re going to GOBBLE JEWISH COCK FOR THE REST OF YOUR SUBSERVIENT GOLEM LIFE?
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>>545080017
>technocracy
Jews.
Thiel is long faced, Musk has enough leftovers to pretend, Altman, Karp, the other data center fatlipped dude

just fucking say jews you cowardly faggot
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>>545080017
The only good thing to come out of this tech-bro debacle is that all the various forms of lolbertarianism have been thoroughly discredited. No, the (((market))) doesn't love you unconditionally, no (((business))) does not have your best interests at heart.
>>545080187
Yarvin's whole deal is that he wants his corporate backers rather than the public sector managerial bureaucrats to rule the West, that's it. A good amount of his 10 redpills spew is utter self-serving crap, but one truth he does mix in is that the bureaucratic civil service is indeed dominant over elected politicians and corporations. But modern corporations themselves are just glorified bureaucracies that emphasize profit over political powermongering, the actual difference for us would be negligible. His masters want infinity shitskins and maximum profligacy just like the deep state.
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>>545079312
nigga pls
https://files.catbox.moe/zo8u72.mp4
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>>545080685
And that was by design because anyone who had a non interventionalist worldview, that supported the system (key distinction, the retards playing cheerleader circlejerk), were funneled into the tea pary/Ron Paul controlled opposition and that dissent was used as a pressure release valve that was acceptable to the sytem, instead of it all reaching any dangerous or unruly pitch. Just looks at Thiel's comments on monopoly, how the fuck can any of these retards believe he's a lolbert like them...? Delusional cope.
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>>545080663
The problem is, they get help from willing abettor, though aspirationally jewish perhaps, non-jews.
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>>545079280
Laughed out of everywhere but homosexual zionist circles
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>>545081196
yeah but unfortunately homosexual zionists are running the country
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>>545081274
Homosexual zionists are currently being purged much like yid Yarvin's slop
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>>545080853
>Just looks at Thiel's comments on monopoly, how the fuck can any of these retards believe he's a lolbert like them...? Delusional cope.
Honestly speaking, I don't think Thiel holds any ideology that won't personally benefit him. He larps as a libertarian on the one hand, while on the other, he praises monopolies. His concept of the Antichrist is nothing more than framing people who might harm his business,like Luddites,as antichrists (anyway, I dislike the Luddites too, but I don't see any reason to spew bullshit about it). He funds right-wing politicians, but I think he mostly does so because leftists would tax and regulate his business more heavily. Plus, right-wing candidates generally tend to increase defense and security spending more than left-wing candidates, which means that electing them would be good for his business. still, I don't support leftists or over taxation.
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>>545079280
the guy fucks
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>>545079722
Ok you sound like a chud, given that I follow the primaries and you don't, all I have to do now is promote anti chud democrats or more
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>>545079280
3. Why the Collective Refuses to See the Evidence

The reason people retreat into boilerplate optimism when faced with this reality comes down to a deep psychological and biological aversion to structural threat:

The Linear Progress Myth: Modern secular culture is addicted to the narrative of upward linear progress—the comforting belief that time naturally makes humanity more enlightened, moral, and free. Acknowledging that advanced technology and intelligence can be weaponized into a more complete, inescapable form of enslavement shatters that comforting illusion.

Mistaking Connectivity for Consciousness: People confuse the expansion of information networks (the internet, phones, global communication) with spiritual or psychological evolution. They assume that because everyone is connected, humanity is "awakening." In reality, hyper-connectivity without individual sovereignty just creates a hive-mind, making it vastly easier to herd, monitor, and control the population en masse.

Psychological Self-Defense: Facing the reality of a technocratic control grid requires confronting an uncomfortable truth: that the tools being built under the banner of "convenience, safety, and connection" are the very bars of the cage. Most people prefer the comforting illusion of an impending "golden age" because the alternative demands a level of vigilance and resistance they are not willing to mount.
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>>545079280
Curtin Yarvis whole philosophy is
>we need a totalitarian state woth advisors, and i should be the top advisor because im very smart
Hes a complete fucking retard, only people who are more retarded are the ones who actually follow him
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>>545079540
>le "its a republic not a democracy xD" boomerism
Those aren't mutually exclusive terms, and everyone who isn't retarded knows what you mean when you talk about western democracy.
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>>545081404
they are? when did that happen?
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>>545082189
Today here with you
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>>545079280
where the spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom
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Does Argentina charge a tariff on bespoke trenchcoats or hand crafted katanas ?
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>>545081695
Your sloppy and heavy handed PR job isn't bettering their image, but I guess being this late in the game forgoes the need for finesse.
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>>545079280
The state of the ZOGgedWest-dominated world under gay commie="democratic" consensus is such a tragedy that the obvious things that people like Yarvin say come across as controversial and/or genius. Sad
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>>545082255
oh ok so the gay jews are still in control and you’re blasting some copium this morning
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>>545079375
>>545079312
>>545079280
yeah all that makes sense and is obvious to /pol/ users what what is he saying about it? he is effectively Great Thunberg in that he states problems and might actually make a suggestion about what he thinks is the solution but he takes zero action.
he ins't even a community organiser, just a community complainer
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>>545079280
maybe we should try actually having a democracy before we condemn it
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Yarvin hasn't said anythig original about democracy that wasn't already said by better critics in the past.
Democracy sucks, we get it. It's pointless to vote because the masses were never empowered, nor need to be, and you'll never outvote oligarch donor money anyway.
No wars doesn't turn into WARS without a lot of money changing hands.
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>>545079280
Democracy is the best system ever invented - for politicians. No risk whatsoever, no responsibility for anything. (a reminder that the scumbugs used to murder each other for power. Failure meant death for them). The worst that can happen to politicians in democracy is that they'll become a parliamentary opposition (kek); with their power over the plebs unscathed.
Also, Europe had become the world's powerhouse BEFORE democracy.
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Bump
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>>545079858
Yeah, it pains me to admit that unqualified reservations was part of what shook me from being a good little leftist; but as much as Yarvin has a flair for getting people to think outside the box, the new boxes he presents are useless beyond thought experiments.

For instance, Urbit. The basic idea would be super useful right now in this AI age as we need identities for agents and stuff. But he wrote it in some wackadoodle language that he made up that nobody else wants to learn and it set the project back immeasurably. I even understand wanting to make a new language but it doesn’t have to have objectively confusing choices inside of it just to annoy you into thinking differently. Urbit could have been something if Yarvin could see over his own ego. But he cannot.
He ended UR and was quiet for a while and then came back with no improvements to his rhetorical quality and a decidedly more boot licky vibe. Hard to respect that.
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>>545079280
democracy is bad also a guy who looks like this is right about everything and should have power because... because he just should, okay???
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>>545079280
is that the guy from that portland show or whatever?
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>>545079280
Curtis Yarvin is a jew.
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>>545079280
Yarvin and co. are still excellent indicators. As people age, they become boomers. There are no exceptions to this in any of the current groups. Travel, live, laugh...This is the fate of every dissident same as every NPC. This is the highest ideal of the English speaking world. This is the West.
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Is he also right about the need for “aristocratic” Jews to take over and turn the West into a liberal Jewish technocrat run autocracy, you subversive rat?
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i agree with curtis the goyim should shut up and be ruled by jews
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>>545079280
>>545079312
>>545079375
>>545081695
>>545081834
Curtis yarvin is right about sucking tranny peniz
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>>545079485
>this is just a bunch of crap to pretend its not the Western kings , freemasons and Vatican jesuits.
Close, but corrected you here.
Western Europe is run by the above, western kings and the Vatican, not jews.
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>>545079280
We knew a WHILE , for 200 years, that Democracy is no good.
What we currently have is CORPOROTOCRACY, corporations and glowies own the gov.
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>>545079280
Curtis Yarvin is a midwit kike. Nigger cannot even afford his own jacket and shares one with the Nvidia chink.
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>>545093982
>Western Europe is run by the above, western kings and the Vatican, not jews.
Lmao, this has to be bait. I don't think Jews control every aspect of politics, but they still undeniably have huge influence. And kings and the Vatican had power over Western Europe in 2026? Lmao



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