Can someone explain Waco to me? My girlfriend was ripping into me last night because I said the government is a piece of shit for that. I don’t even think she knows it was called the Waco siege. I think her only knowledge of it is because she watched American Horror Story once. She went on yelling at me saying how can I defend a cult and the man that ran it raped kids. I said I don’t support cults but what the government did was wrong. But she didn’t want to hear it. I’m pretty sure she doesn’t even realize how controversial the topic is. Then she was going on about Jim Jones which I could tell she knew nothing about because she thought the people were actually dumb enough to commit suicide. She didn’t know they were forced to and that Jim didn’t even drink the kool aid. She got her false info from watching an American horror story episode lmao. Otherwise she would know nothing about either of the two. Anyway I’m not as informed on the Branch Davidians and the Waco Siege. Can someone explain to me what the government did that was wrong
>>545089713Dump her/thread
>>545089713My gf was defending the state against me.Bro wtf dump her idiot.
>>545089713telling someone to dump their girlfriend because one disagreement is the nost retarded reddit millenial faggotry one could express. who the fuck cares all women are retarded atleast yours is loyal
>>545089713Can she also justify Ruby Ridge? Those two standoffs were pretty close in time to each other, making me think it was a psyop to defeat such compounds before they even start forming
>>545090124One more little cohencidence relating Waco and Ruby>Richard M. Rogers. He was in charge of the HRT at both incidents:>Ruby Ridge (1992): Rogers drafted the controversial rules of engagement on the flight to Idaho, which snipers interpreted as a "green light" to shoot armed adult males. He was suspended for 10 days >Waco (1993): He again headed the HRT during the siege. As the DOJ's Waco report noted, "Rogers often overrode the Site Commander at Waco" and had mobilized both HRT tactical teams to the same site, creating pressure toward a tactical resolution
>>545090124Ruby ridge was a christian identity fag who made his 14 year old kid get in a shootout with fedsWaco were seventh day adventists breakaway led by a guy who deeply admired rabbinic judaism. The leader even named himself Koresh (Cyrus, the emancipator of the jews). Not the same things.
>>545090015Lol, lonely zoomer that was sadly denied love but has no sense of how it used to be.
>>545090476Just search Scott Horton he's analyzed it.
>>545089713Your gf is berating you over shit neither of you understands? holy fuck dude get a better one
>>545089713White texans go bitched out Which signaled their end in the area. The Indians then moved it and took their place
>>545089713op is a fattie shitskin jamboy poopjeet trolling demoralization shit go kys thx kek>poopjeetshttp://www.google.com/search?q=toilet+witches+indiahttp://www.google.com/search?q=codex+pajeethttp://www.google.com/search?q=india+jamboyhttp://www.amazon.in/s?k=cow+dung+cakeshttp://www.google.com/search?q=india+poop+festivalhttp://www.google.com/search?q=india+cockroach+movementhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2Pi4-zWJTghttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JDGGcY0wDUhttp://patriots.win/p/1ATVaFitCU/india-seeking-to-host-2036-summe/chttp://patriots.win/p/1ATVaFic5L/india-and-oh-you-statistics-you-/cGO BACK TO INDIA YOU STINKING PAJEETS>GO BACK TO INDIA YOU STINKING PAJEETS
>>545090124Basically her logic was “do you know what cults do? They rape and abuse girls and marrying minors, I don’t care that the government killed them they did us all a favor” I don’t even think she knows there was a Waco siege
>>545090476I remember Ruby Ridge being a white segregation compound. I guess a jew told you otherwise to discredit them and applaud (((big brother)))
>>545090595Maybe just don't debate things like this in the first place? who cares. This is a simple disagreement not a betrayal. Reddit tier advice to say it's grounds for a breakup.
A tribute to Moloch.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=K1EF8MNwtCs&list
>>545089790So what the whole country with all the guns sat and watched it live on TV and nobody did shit. You won't do shit either never.
>>545090699Obviously both are true on some level, the cult was led & perpetuated by a bunch of freaks, but the government overstepped to the point where most of what they did was unjustifiable.
>>545090725“Christian Identity” is white separatism
>>545090691gay prides people want to do stuff outside in the street because not everyone owns a night club, but then they degenerate into racists, mormens, and church cops cock blocking each other
>>545089713A Bradley tank fitted with a flame thrower set it ablaze and they covered it up as a suicide.
>>545089713Glow niggers killed men, women and children for living independently.
>>545089713David Koresh was fucking 12 year old girlsChildren must be protected.Burn a dozen children to death.
>>545090880https://odysee.com/@BasedGoy:f/Day-of-The-Sword---Ear-To-EarThis guy, Scott Stedeford was distantly related to ARA members who were involved in the incident. He was a bank robber, plotting to fund militant white segregation movement. 90s were kinda wild there in some places lol. But Scotts music is pretty cool, lyrics from the 1990s outline our modern issues pretty well
>>545089713What happened was Koresh had a bunch of guns he wasn’t supposed to have and the government was already targeting him so they used that as the excuse. Then the atf moved in to end it with tear gas and the people started shooting and the atf accidentally lit the place up because the tear gas ignitions lit stuff on fire and everyone died>ruby ridgethis one is less defensible because the dumb fucking court clerk didn’t send the guy his summons to appear in court over the firearm charge and it was confirmed after they fucked up and the whole thing could have been avoided. also they randomly shot his wife while she was outside not doing anything wrong and also killed his dog and son too but that one was a bit more grey area. The sniper who shot the wife was originally to be indicted over the incident but then the federal government just “decided” not to go any further with it
Koresh was an insane hippyI’m glad he’s deadTheir cult was a freak showSad what happened to the kids though, both what Koresh did to them and what the Feds did. Btw, most of the kids were shot in the head by the Davidians who refused to let them surrender
>>545089713>Can someone explain Waco to me?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco:_American_Apocalypse
>>545091305Is this true
>>545089713you should bring her there and have her read the names of all those babies on the memorial. why did Janet Reno and Hillary Clinton have to kill all those babies? ask her that. what could the justification for that possibly be?
>>545089713Call her a retard for quoting/referencing entertainment media for serious topics and refuse to engage further in these debates then take her out for dinner and choose her meal for her
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>>545089713quick waco recap> be on your nice cool af compound> life is chill> a wild child trafficking trade appears> "oh fuck, we need to do something about this"> take the children in> collect proof> don't really know what to do with it cause you're based af and know the state will just cover it up if you go to the cops> cops still find out> "shut it down, the goyim know"> jews want to make sure their baby trafficking ring never gets on the public spotlight> it's not 2026 after all, people still cared back then> raid your compound on trumped up charges, defame you and kill you all just to make sure> feds take smiling pictures of your burned down compound, your corpse still smoldering in the background> 20 years later shlomo producerstein makes a tv series out of it where the soulless murdering feds are the hero and you're the bad guy> everyone buys thathere it is
>>545089713David Koresh decided he was a jew prophet.Starts a cult and builds cult compound.Does the usual weirdo cult shit doing Epstein stuff.Feds show up to arrest him.Koresh shoots 4 feds.They spend 51 days negotiating.Say fuck it just gas them out.Place catches on fire but they barricaded themselves inside so can't escape.Feds find most suicided themselves with a bullet to the head or Koresh killed them.Cults are gay, feds are gay
>>545089713Religious-Group or cult...Lived next-door to a (((private-airport))).Where Guns/Drugs/Human-Trafficking Niggers&Jews covert operations were going-on.They had video / audio / surveillance, they had a phone-tech who lived there do a "private" wire-tap on the "neighbors".They tried to go-to perceived / trusted "Authorities" with the information...The rest is cover-story.
>>545089713The judaized US government chose to murder a bunch of people rather that just withdraw and pick them off one by one.
>>545089713Christians bought too much ammunition so the feds got antsy, went in and used armored flamethrowers to torch the place blocking everyone inside to die.
>>545092572The "Over-Kill" used on the hapless people there should indicate what the Globo-Homo Nigger&Jew-Spawn are capable-of
>>545089713Lesson one.Before Waco, there was a magical time and place, and it was called "Ruby Ridge". Wikipedia is your friend and it was a public relations disaster of the highest magnitude. ATF had a chink sniper shoot a pregnant wife andd everyone pointed fingers who gave that order later in a circle jerk.>So fresh off of THAT fucking PR nightmare, here comes Waco. The same people that brought you Ruby Ridge, brought you WACO. Here's how to understand the ATF in this time period. The ATF is basically shoving other kid's faces into the toilet of piss water and wondering why no one wants to play with them. Waco was the ATF grandstanding in front opf the cameras, thinking it would make up for Ruby Ridge. But then that went tits up on Live TV too, so it was another monumental meteor in the ass fucked moment for ATF and their precious PR.
>>545089713The official report is 100 percent accurate
>>545089713Bot pist get off the board shit zOg
>>545090476Jew
>>545090692Heil Hitler fuck jew freemasonic heretic apostate pukehanan hell land hugiluekn it Shit jeet heile Julius Evola hail French monarchy
>>545092102Get of gf the internet shit jeet fuck zog heil Christ Mussolini's Petain Franco Hitler heil Hitler fuck zoom gbread evola
>>545089713Remove zog bots from internets
>>545090389>HRT tactical teamsTranny death squads.
>>545091958yea
>>545094613Call me a jew but wont call me a liar. Telling. I denounce the talmud, do you?
Reminder that Waco and Ruby Ridge caused deaths of many ZOGbots. Back when Timmy did stuff
>>545089713>Can someone explain to me what the government did that was wrongHarming innocent people is wrong.The children in that Waco compound were innocent.The government killed them; burned them alive.This isn't complicated.
>>545091958It was on video, yes
Some good documentaries.Waco: The Rules of Engagement (1997)Waco: A New Revelation (2000)
>>545089713white government people murdered white regular people and none of white america gave a fuckwhite people simply do not give a fuck about other white people>> I GOT MINE!!
>>545095605Timothy McVeigh was a fed
>>545098364and he wasn't alone. half of Oklahoma saw him with some other dude. FBI even put out a sketch looking for the other suspect. and then they took it back, oopsies, there was no other guy, it was only Timmy.
>>545098364I don't see the potential motivation for a fed to kill other feds and bring attention to the previous fed fuckups and excessive force. Care to explain?
>>545098625just to add another excuse to demonize anti government white menand yes feds will absolutely kill other feds. these people are psychologically evaluated for narcissism and sociopathy. if they don't have those two traits they aren't allowed into the FBI
>>545098625You've gotta understand that the President was getting his dick sucked by the Intern at this time in history and Hilary was very upset about all the cum stains covering the White House.
inb4 the fake Ryder truck on military property image
>>545098757>>545098759So all of the other feds investigating this just didn't mind that their colleagues and their children were blown up?
>>545098856the government is extremely compartmentalized. only a handful of people know about any one operation at a time
>>545098856Estonia don't forget 98 percent of /pol/ are retarded
>>545098856but I am very happy that a fuckload of feds were murdered by their own people lol
>>545098906pull the government cock out your mouth, pussy
>>545089713If I wanted to hear what your girlfriend thinks about shit I would have fucked her.
>>545098904>handful of people know about any one operation at a timeSo they put this Wysopal guy in public view of everyone and still have him be FBI? Lol. They would have tied him to other movements to crack down on. And they tried to do that, but it was just Timmy
>>545090015Correct. OP don't be a faggot.
>>54509890698% of Estonians are glowniggers, retard. Do you have any idea how many glowies live in Tallinn? It's a lot.
>>545099372This is the answer to all of your questions. A woman was put in charge not because she was competent, but rather a sex kitten.
>>545099708>Do you have any idea>a lotHow many is it then? So far all the proof is vague resemblance to some fed. How does this make me into a glownigger? I think that theory itself is disinformation. >"Because the truth is, I blew up the Murrah Building and isn't it kind of scary that one man could wreak this kind of hell?">t. Timmy 2001 interview with reporters Lou Michel and Dan Herbeck
>>545099708No and this post glows
>>545089713>Waco. What happened?Hillary Clinton wanted the disaster of her healthcare for all plan to disappear from the news. Her lesbian lover, Janet Reno, made sure that happened.
>>545089713>Can someone explain Waco to me?The BATF was under budgetary pressure in Congress. So they decided to do a giant highly visible guns-blazing raid operation, called the media to have cameras present when they did it, and then blew the whole thing, including accidentally shooting their own agents. The famous footage of a bunch of gunfire coming through an upstairs wall and hitting a BATF agent who was on the roof of the house? Those were from another BATF agent on the inside, blazing away with his MP5 loaded with armor-piercing ammunition.Anyway, BATF fucked it all up so badly that the religious wackos refused to come out, so the FBI Hostage Rescue Team took over and set fire to the building.>how can I defend a cult and the man that ran it raped kids.Incinerating the children was the only option.>>545091958Not exactly. The tank was fitted with some sort of nozzle to pump CS tear gas into the building, which it did with great enthusiasm. CS tear gas is flammable when used like that. The FBI then fired rockets into the building because apparently gassing everyone wasn't enough. The rockets were what ignited the CS particles.There was a Taiwanese music festival around maybe a decade ago that was throwing that colored cornstarch powder around all over the crowd, and the cornstarch ignited off the extremely hot floodlights. Look up the videos of that, it shows basically the same type of ignition event.>>545091573>What happened was Koresh had a bunch of guns he wasn’t supposed to haveExcept that they never found any, they just claimed that was being done. The kiddie-fucking thing came up later when the FBI needed some justification.Also, the FBI took over the whole thing about halfway through; it was FBI HRT that set the place on fire.By the way, Khoresh really was fucking all the women in the compound, including the children. The Branch Davidians freely admit that this was happening because it was part of their religious beliefs.
>>545100482basically this. Bill Clinton blew up a medicine factory in Africa to change the domestic headlines once.
>>545099372>> So they put this Wysopal guy in public view yes because obviously faggots like you will never question literally anything lolwhite people will believe literally anything they're told
>>545100571>white people will believe literally anything they're toldthis was especially true in the mid '90s. if you weren't alive then you just wouldn't understand. whatever Peter Jennings said on ABC News that night was the absolute gospel truth.
>>545100519>CS tear gasJust to be clear, CS tear "gas" isn't really a gas, it's more like a dust with such small particles that they float around on air currents. If you've ever opened up a package of moldy bread and saw a cloud of spores puffing out all over your kitchen, that's basically the same idea.
>>545100625This guy olds.t. fellow ancient decrepit GenXer.
>>545098031>Waco: The Rules of Engagement (1997)https://youtube.com/watch?amp=&v=5iT5Gx6eaRAWaco: A New Revelation (2000)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xr9pQ1pIbiU
>>545100571I'm literally asking questions though. >>545100625I usually compare this image to what /pol/ has become. The propaganda is much more refined now and its stupid to think that you are immune to it. >"Having a television in your home is like having a jew in your living room" >Leonard E. Feeney
>>545090476You're so clearly brown. Your skin gets lighter when you defecate. You're a nigger's nigger.
>>545090476>Ruby ridge was a christian identity fag who made his 14 year old kid get in a shootout with fedsKys kike
>>545098856There may or may not have been some signs that McVeigh was being led around by a fedboi glownigger, but the fedboi glowniggers do in fact do that sort of thing.There were a couple of jihadis whom the FBI was stirring up, egging on, and following around. The jihadis suddenly decided to attack an event down in Texas and the fedboi glownigger assigned to watch them was a little late in nooooticing, so they actually made it to the convention center and tried to go in with their guns blazing. Fortunately they were shot by a security guard before they could slaughter anyone (oops, looks like one guard got shot in the ankle by them). The FBI agent was literally about 15 minutes behind them in his car racing to catch up.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Curtis_Culwell_Center_attack>The Curtis Culwell Center attack was a failed terrorist attack on an exhibit featuring cartoon images of Muhammad at the Curtis Culwell Center in Garland, Texas, United States, on May 3, 2015, which ended in a shootout with police guarding the event, and the deaths of the two perpetrators.[4] The attackers shot an unarmed Garland Independent School District (GISD) security officer in the ankle.[5][6] Shortly after opening fire, both attackers were shot by an off-duty Garland police officer and killed by SWAT.[7]>>The FBI had been monitoring the two attackers for years, and an undercover agent was right behind them when the first shots were fired.[8] The injured security guard filed a lawsuit against the FBI in October 2017, claiming the FBI was partially responsible for his injuries.[6]
>>545101049Once again, won’t call me a liar or say anything I said is incorrect. Your worldview was formed after you were fucked in the ass in prison. Triple goy bitch boy.
>>545101143See>>545101228
>>545100963Don't get me wrong. I'm not an optimist and yes the propaganda is more refined but there are also many, many more people willing to question narratives now than there were then.
>>545089713>What happened?jewish controlled muttland killed the Messiah.
>>545100963>The propaganda is much more refined now and its stupid to think that you are immune to it.That is definitely true, but many people are still able to think critically, evaluate multiple pieces of evidence, and decide for themselves.This is why I still read ZeroHedge even though the asshole running it is the son of a KGB agent and is clearly an FSB asset who spouts Russian propaganda points directly from the Kremlin. Reading his bullshit just after MH-17 was shot down by Russian "little green men" was sickening. "Russian separatist forces achieved a great victory shooting down a Ukrainian transpor-- uh, nobody quite knows what happ-- wait, it was actually Ukrainians firing this antiaircraft missile system that Russians designed and built after the fall of the USSR and never sold to Ukraine! It's all Ukraine's fault!" You could watch the spin in realtime.
>>545089713Dr. Pierce described it best.Waco: Criminals with Badgeshttps://www.bitchute.com/video/hUuUxEM9XhNT
>>545098856>>545101167Oh, I missed the best part of that article by rushing to post it:>An online ISIL persona run by internet troll Joshua Ryne Goldberg had posted maps to the exhibition, and urged his followers to attack the event. Goldberg pleaded guilty to federal charges in December 2017. His persona was retweeted by one of the attackers on the morning of the attack, and Goldberg claimed responsibility for inciting the attack to multiple news outlets and in his plea agreement.[13][14][15][16][17]It was a kike who wanted to stir up trouble with jihadis, so that Americans would hate Muslims, who inspired them.
>>545101167See, the jihadists acting out has the motivation for Israels agenda, like 911 amd war on terror forever wars. Blowing up glowniggers and blaming one little Timmy makes little sense. Glowniggers also tried to blame Elohim City dissidents, but unsuccessfully
>>545089713>the government is a piece of shit for thatYou're a fucking idiot who took internet schizos seriously. Ruby Ridge was a tragedy and made the government look like shit, Waco was based and made them look good. For some reason people associate the two because they happened around the same time period, but they're radically different. Waco was a wacky cult of drug up white trash who fucked kids and manufactured illegal machine guns. The cops went to arrest one of them on a warrant, a shootout ensued, and a standoff following them shooting at law enforcement. Obviously this is what happens when cops have a lawfully signed warrant and someone shoots at them. They don't just say welp and go home, the response was reasonable.For days the schizo cult leader got high and went on rants about being Jesus and this standoff being the apocalypse, and his retard cult members actually listened to him. Many of his retarded drug fueled rants are recorded. They kept the kids inside and threatened to shoot any cult members who tried to leave, then lit the place on fire killing everyone inside. Even today firefighting efforts will not be taken if firefighters can't do it safely. Did I mention they shot at anyone who approached? The fire was found to be set in 3 places inside the compound, and ruled to be intentionally set. If you hear this retard's rants, it will make more sense. They then found all the machine guns inside and there's photos of the burned guns and grenades and shit. Who knows what those schizos were planning. You're dumb to defend them. Stick to the plethora of other legitimate government evil deeds.
>>545089713>Can someone explain Waco to me?ATF, FBI, Army special forces conspired to murder men, women and children then cover up their crimes. Of all the military vet shows no one talks about how the Army attacked and murdered US citizens in Texas.
>>545101722>Waco was based and made them look good.You are a piece of shit in human form. Bacteria are more intelligent than you.
>>545101228Youre a liar and incorrect faggot
>>545101818Ok christkike cultist. They killed a bunch of kids in a drug fueled schizo panic attack. They were pieces of shit, good riddance to all of their trash genes including the trash kids.
>>545101818ONCE AGAIN, you fail to say anything that was said is a lie, just ad hominem moral grandstanding. Choke on a bullet
>>545101228There is no need to argue with a nigger. You've already proven yourself brown, which means that you should only be a called a nigger, because you are brown. Anyone who treats niggers like humans makes a nigger of himself. Fuck you, nigger. I hope your ebt gets cancer l cut off you, you turbo double nigger. You make George Floyd look like a beaner.
How do they justify the flamethrower tank
>>545101920>reciting what the feds said about the BDs>despite knowing full well there’s no evidence for your claimsZogbot faggot
>>545102089The absolute state of the amerimut goylem. Just complete befuddlement, foaming at the mouth, red skin like the devil (you didnt even take niacin). Make like your idols and get ventilated.
>>545089713>She got her false info from watching an American horror story episode lmao.isn't it scary to think of how many people make conclusions about the real world based on this level of "knowledge"? A bit of TV/newspaper goes a LOOOOOOONG way. People are utter cattle. Sad, disturbing shit.
>>545089713I would recommend watching this video in its entirety. Devon Stack has fallen off pretty hard lately but his work on the PatCon series is required /pol/ viewing. Everything you need to know is right here.https://rumble.com/v4x4hf8-pat-con-part-2.html
>>545089713Best qrd there is. >>545100519>Except that they never found any, they just claimed that was being done.Koresh admitted to his lawyer Dick DeGuerin that he did have illegal weapons (DeGuerin mentioned this at the Waco hearings in 1995) but whether or not those weapons were at the Mount Carmel Center the day of the raid is a matter of debate. One could argue that he simply had certain semi-autos converted into machineguns simply to match the firepower of the ATF after they unjustifiably shot up his home. A jury in Texas might have acquitted him based on that alone, especially since a San Antonio jury refused to convict the surviving Davidians of murder.
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