So now what? Do we have two presidents? is Brazil going to be separate? Trump will invade?
You lost, tranny
>>545105831It’s like the time the Pope was in France
Embarassing behavior all around.
>>545105831The birth of the United States of Brazyl.
>>545105831>I AM A PRESIDENT! I AM A PRESENT!
>>545105831He transwon
Chad as fuck
>>545106018kek
>>545105972Don't worry, Trump leaves in two years and this embarrassing behavior ends. Marco Rubio enables this, not realizing just how dumb and corrupt this idiot is. There are good Bolsonaros, like this man's father. Even his Mossad-fanboy brother is not this bad.But Flavio is outright a criminal.
>>545106018we won xisters
>>545106018He identifies as the winner of the election, his pronouns are now President/Of Brazil.
>>545105831He's gonna start a podcast and bitch for money
>>545106193can't wait for his trading and pua courses, alongside those supplements
Lula fucked up not sending glowies to monitor this guy immediately and letting him get out of the country. Trump is going to try to build a coup around him. Remember this post.
>>545105831BASEADO! Military coup imminent.Can't wait for the Marxists to get shot and burried in mass graves.
Ah yeah let's not forget about how he used the wrong coat of arms, then quickly changed it once he realized people were already making fun of him.What a joke of a man.
I think Lula hacked our elections.
>>545105831lol
>>545105831>So now what?Literally nothing UNLESS Trump goes batshit and uses the military again.Even if Trump decides to put the screws the Brasil right now, everybody knows his power has faded and they'll choose to outlast him like Canada is.
Monkey civil war now
>>545105831YOU LOST TRANNY
>>545105831I WON>fleeslol
>>545106326that would had worked with his dad, the kid's an unlikable gigafaggot
>>545105831tankies are mad btw, this is how you know this is good
>>545106326That would make him feel more important than he actually is. In truth, he is the Hillary Clinton of Brazil; the worst possible candidate they could produce. People didn't vote "for him", they voted against Lula. All he had to do was to skip debates, since in a controlled environment the israeli media could not question him.Then the debates came and he was so terrible and obviously fake that he lost to an 80-years old bodybuilder walking out of a very subpar government with more support than he entered.He turned LVLA into a legend and created an entire generation of better leftists by being such a terrible candidate.Anyone (Bolsonaro's wife, as an example) had a better chance at winning. But a corrupt midwit who never worker a day in his life and owner an island is *not* what people in the Right wanted as an anti-Lula.
>>545105831Flavio is a pussy and declares this on foreign land. He is just seeEeething that he couldn’t pardon his father like they originally planned. lmao
>>545105831It doesn't actually matter if Lula cheated. The winner is the one who takes power.
>>545106326> Trump is going to try to build a coup around himAmerica will free Brazil from the Marxist pest.
>>545106326Lula did send PF and ABIN (Our intelligence agencies, our "FBI and CIA") and they got outwitted by Argentinian intelligence (who helped Flavio go to the US)
>>545105831hopefully you BR fucks kill this retard.idk how this isn't literally a coup or treason.GL seems like you dodged a bullet voting for the Lula retard.
>>545106656spoken like a true american.
>>545105831based
>>545106710There's blatant fraud in this election, though, the numbers dont even make senseI dont believe there was fraud when Jair lost but in ths one? 100% fraud and they went way too overboard with it
>>545106656Lula didn't even need to cheat, he won with easy 4-5 million votes.When the final ballots were counted, in the extra 2 hours of election, only 38 thousand votes came in. Lula had already won by then.
>>545105831Cool. He can be the president of Brazil from the usa, right? Like Assad and others are still presidents, just living in Russia. Lol.
>>545105890didnt that pope get bitch slapped by the french monarch?
What's Flavio going to do when MIGA gets kicked out of the white house in two years?
>>545105831Fuck, zog really is going to use the jewss to attack you. Sorry BRos.
>>545106818Just like Flavio will be when democrats take over America in 2 years and decide to end this charade.
>>545106772>There's blatant fraudlook bro, I'm gonna be 100000% with you right now.I'm sick of hearing these claims of fraud with basically nothing to show.At least in my state, we have videos of a literal retard sheboon stuffing ballot boxes and there is ongoing legal nonsense going on.
>>545105831Do a civil war.
>>545106772Lula actually had a campaign for the second round, people went to the streets and actually managed to change a lot of votes. Don't forget that many of Flavio's voters in the first round weren't part of his cult, they only went with him because Flavio had a good campaign in the first round that convinced them to vote against Lula.The entire basis of these fraud accusations is how votes can never change. It goes full retard starting from the first step.
>>545105831TOTALLY LEGIT BY THE WAY
>>545106540His father was convicted by a kangaroo court formed mostly by judges appointed by leftists, the same that freed Lula He was smart enough to not stick around
>>545106927We also have videos of people shutting cameras down, etcIn places where Flavio had votes, suddenly nobody voted for him, right wing towns suddenly only got ONE extra vote for Flavio compared to the 1stround and everything else went LulaThen Alexandre de Moraes, 7 minutes after the 2nd round, removing Flavio's passportMost blatant shit ever
>>545106789I'm pretty sure Assad didn't do that, at all, one to the few ones who straight up dropped the whole thing and any pretense Maduro is the only one you can use to make your faggot case, however I'm not sure if he's still proclaiming himself as president of Venezuela since Venezuela's gearing to elections you also have shitloads of random western refuse like the pahlavi dynasty but the ones proclaiming shit were never in power
>>545105831Based a new South American big war would be funWe could send plenty of our shitskin ZOGbots there.
>>545106927Example of what I mean.Flavio won one extra vote comparing 1st and 2nd rounds, Lula won 1000, in a right wing town.
>>545106974Yes, legit and it has happened multiple times before. Note that the number went DOWN since the last election.
you know /pol/ is all brown trannies when they hate literally the ONLY White family in Brazilian politics
>>545106789>Assad and others are still presidentsIs he?I thought he was an eye surgeon now.
>>545106595thx for the inside scoop
>>545107175DELETE THIS
>>545106972copeyour party has officially ruined democracy
>>545105831This is unironically huge. Civil War time for Brazil.
>>545107184Fuck, marry, kill
>>545107175>PT gets all of themyes, they've been frauding for years.this makes you look worse, commietranny
>>545106710I guess nvm.he already landed in Miami? how the fuck did that happen?BR glowies must be weak as fuck.
>>545105831he's in fuckin Miami right now. i guess i could drive on down the local airport and declare myself the rightful president of brazil and it would have the same effect
>>545107219He's not a leftistHe's an MLB, they're the brazilian groypers, their leader is also a brown gay manlet that pretends he's white
>>545106892>end this charade Imagine being this much of a retard tranny, thinking electing Lula, or Dems being elected here, will somehow restore the world before Trump. That world is gone, things have changed. It isn’t coming back, which is one of the reasons we voted for Trump in the first place Welcome to the first years of the U.S. re-exerting the Monroe doctrine in the western hemisphere. No, globohomo jew Dems won’t do any different, it’ll be exactly the same but celebrating shitskins and trannies, like always
>>545105831He who has to say 'I am the president' is no real president.
>>545105831MIGA!
>>545105831>From the river to the sea, the presidency belongs to me
Flavio isn't coming back...
>>545105831Honestly, Brazil should separate along racial lines.
>>545107219Ruined democracy by rallying the fuck out of people to earn and change votes, convincing lazy fucks to vote, and even helping the elderly or disabled to go vote? Ruined democracy putting effort into a comeback campaign while the other side is too busy partying because they thought everything was settled? While the loser side runs away like a little bitch after losing the immunity they've had for their entire life and thinks they can declare themselves the rightful winner?Another note: every single 2nd place has earned more votes than the 1st place overall in the second rounds of our elections, but it has never been enough to overturn them because this situation where one side completely stops trying while the others goes as hard as possible has never happened either.
>>545105831No domestic support. No military support. Fled the country like a bitch after conceding. Tied his flag to a geriatric near senile boomer who has his own political troubles and a collapsing base.If the fag was serious he would've stayed in Brazil and made a play with military assets. As is he's now a powerless nobody who will get paid way too much money by out of touch American glowies who day dream of using him as an asset that will ultimately wind up being another weird dude in some overpriced Miami restaurant trying to act like a mafioso around a bunch of young people who don't give a shit.
>Claim there's undeniable proof of massive election fraud>It's just people not voting the way they were expected toWhy are right-wingers such crybabies?You running a shit candidate does not constitute the other side cheating.
>>545107460>south>whiteHAHAHAHAHAHAHA LOOOOOL
>>545105831Yes, him and Juan Guaido
>>545107527The sad reality of our modern, pathetic times.Let's get this happening on with then.
>>545105876You troons say this so often it has lost all meaning.I wonder if it's a tic at this point, you said it ironically, seriously, and now you're compelled whether you want to or not.inb4 You lost, tranny
>>545107513You can drop the facade. No one believes this election was legit. Just go celebrate your victory with your trotskyite buddies and call it a day. It's not like it matters anyway, Lula and PT are old news, nothing will change.
>>545107568>>545107568>It's just people not voting the way they were expected to
>>545106547>>545106595Sounds exactly like the kind of guy Trump loves to back tbqh.
>>545106972> The entire basis of these fraud accusations is how votes can never change. It goes full retard starting from the first step.Your argument is that millions of votes magically do? Maybe a bit of movement statistically makes sense, but that’s a looney claim bro
>>545107715You lost, trannyGo show your "evidence" to any court room and get laughed out, retard.
>>545105831He is so fucking dumb, what a retarded family.
>>545105831BASEDLulafags btfo
>>545107513This is what people don't get. Lula won by a large margin. 4 million+ votes is ridiculous. It was a squash. Flavio lost at the centers of economic and cultural power in Brazil. This was not a case of small distant village voting in for the same candidate. São Paulo and Rio de Janeiro (Flavio's own city) turned against him.The rightwing should have gotten behind an actual good candidate if they wanted to win.Fuck, this was in the bag. But no, you need to put crook #598 who represents the worst aspects of Rio de Janeiro. The Left rallied behind a cause that they could win, and they won.
>>545105831Civil War clearly.
>>545105831TRUMP WON. DEAL WITH IT
>>545107050>didn't do that didn't do what? >>545107190>was an eye surgeon now.Uhm... He was one and I think he is one to the day he die. Like some are study and learn for job x eventually become y. I mean if you as example was a butcher, twenty years long, you learned it in school and all and then somehow you become major or your town. Your new job is major. But... You are a butcher nevertheless, parallel so to say. Would be funny if he just would open a eye surgery clinician Moscow and doing like nothing had happend. But.. Sry I wouldn't want to be his patient. He has some bad vibes if you know what I mean.
>>545105831> Now what
>>545107715>llm hallucinations for statistical modelling (You)r absolute state
>>545105831What a cuck
>>545105831Some people said some things....bigot!
>>545105831>flees his country of birth>"ackchyually you lost, tranny"
>>545107257If everything is a fraud then explain how Jair won in 2018 DESPITE 328 places only having Haddad votes? "Ah he was just so good that he got more votes than PT could steal", I assume?This entire situation only proves that you can't build an entire campaign only on being opposition to the other side. Haddad's pathetic campaign back then was the same thing, people only voted him because they didn't want Jair, but it still wasn't enough because he was a weak candidated picked at the last moment because Lula didn't flee like a little bitch and faced his jail time.Never forget one thing: Brazil is full of stupid people who have no political allegiance. They'll vote for a left-wing candidate for one position and then a right-wing candidate for another without a care in the world, simply because they like one or the other better. They'll easily change votes from right to left because a candidate spent an entire debate dancing behind the other, or because they were convinced that they would sell everything to the USA. Math and statistics will never understand how this shithole works. You can't teach math or politics to a monkey.
Kill all evangelicals Burn all megachurchs
>>545107843>hallucinationsit's not 2023 anymore, pedro. this doesn't fly and you won't get social points for parroting it.I know you communists are seething and malding. all of you know this is fake and gay and this farce of an election was clearly stolen.you know it. there's a reason the left is being so weird about it.
>>545107760>magicallythe campaign to change votes was gigantic, 10M+ people organized as a group across the country trying their best to get as many people as they could
>>545106772This.The shills are trying to pretend that it's normal for Flávio to only get 3 million out of the 9 million votes the other right wing candidates got in round 1 and none of the new votes.
>>545107808I don’t think you’re confused. Your president is who America says it is.
>>545107970it is anon, I'm running qwen3.8-next-flash locally, use gpt-6 astra, opus 5.8 daily, and deepseek 4.1 flashi still need to baby them or they will fuck shit up, ask grok to write you the whole thing and examine it, then do the substack faggotry or you can't since you couldn't even finish a hs degree?
>>545107970you must go back
Flavio already backed down and removed the part where he calls himself rightfully elected president from his letter btw, probaly Rubio telling him to pipe down
>>545108035Why would Israel do this?It makes sense if certain areas are just polarized like that.
>>545105831When is the United States invading Brazil to install Bolsonaro as its President?
>>545105831Trial by futból.
>>545107760>magicallyNo. With an absurd amount of effort from all sides.Seriously, look up just how threatened people felt when the final results of the first round came in. Everyone was expecting Lula to win by a landslide and almost LOST right there, on top of losing nearly the entire senate to the right. We've had the biggest rally in favor of a candidate since the movement in favor of elections coming back and the end of dictatorship back in the 80's, as far as I'm aware. People from everywhere in the world should be using this as an example of how to increase support for their candidate (as well as how to not sit on your ass when you think you won) instead of crying because the numbers didn't go as they expected.
>>545105831he's the legitimate President
Brazil should start dumbing all it's treasure holdings and dollars reserves for gold right now
>>545108009>foreigners spent money on shilling Brazilian elections >that means we can’t question the legitimacy of people in extremely partisan towns and regions magically changing votes It doesn’t work that way. The israelis spend billions shilling shit here, that doesn’t mean the voting public likes them or is swayed by them
WEHOOOHOOOOBOLLSSAAAAANAAROOOOO*cheerd*
>>545105831At this very moment Flávio is more relevant and talked about than the whole elected government.
>>545108035what you forget to account for is the votes he lost with his childish behaviour and insane proposals that he and his team started throwing around after the 1st round, a lot of the "he can't be worse than Lula" people found out that he is indeed worse than Lula
>>545108253Another way of looking at that is that it was rigged with fake votes in various ways. Nobody trusts this shit anymore. Thats why they have those voting machines.
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>>545105831Pathetic subhuman criminal
>>545108411
>>545105831>Lila declares that polling stations need to stay open>Says this after most have already closed except a few in leftist areas>Busses in a fuckton of 'people'>Declares victory and has arrest warrant issued for opponent"Oh, he's allowed to just extend the election like that?">"No, that is the job of the elction board.""Oh, so the elction board did it?">"No, a member of the supreme court ordered it""Oh, so the supreme court overruled the election board?">"No, a single guy, who used to be Lilas personal lawyer.""Oh.">"Yeah."
>>545108344>take massive shit in the middle of a birthday party>"Heh everyone is talking about me more than the birthday boy!"
>>545108358kek safe and secure Urna lollmao even
>>545108212Little bit too much on Trump's plate right now ? Iran, Ukraine, Bibi getting bolsonarod in Israel... Sounds like there is not much bandwith left for Brazil invasion.
>>545108444
>>545108358> what you forget to account for is the votes he lost with his childish behaviourChildish behavior, nigger? It’s politics of a gigantic country. It exists so that violence doesn’t need to as much Fuck off with your childish behavior explanations. It isn’t the 90’s and we aren’t a bunch of women in here. People vote according to interests.
>>545105831I won therefore I flee
>>545107808They would've cheated against that "actual good" candidate as well, shill.Again: it's impossible for Flávio to have only gotten 3 million votes when 4 right wing candidates with 9 million votes combined lost in the first round. Lula would also have needed to get all of the new voters as well.Stop shilling for commies, anon.
>>545108454you've got a point desu.still the plan of the lib-left was>rig the election >arrest everyone they don't like in the same daythey fucked up, shouldn't have threatened to arrest the guy and it would be golden
>>545108503>People vote according to interests.The farmers who voted for the guy who raped their goybean exports and their diesel costs because he was based on TV says otherwise
>>545107683You're a winner tranny...
>>545108503People in Brazil were trees voting for the axe. Iran fell, venezuela fell, russia is too busy dealing with it's own issues, all that could support a leftist block is destroyed. There is no oil to fuel the banks that can fund left propaganda. The biggest mistake commited by brazillians were the mistake of being a bunch of retards.
>>545108543>everyone who votes flavio would never swing >muh right vs left we're like the USA lmao retard, countries with actual multiparty democracy who much farther than right vs left dichotomy
>Last week on /pol/who cares about fucking brazil>this week on /pol/OMG BRAZIL IS SO IMPORTANT, ALL EYES ON BRAZIL RIGHT NOW, LOOK AT BRAZIL BRAZIL BRAZIL BRAZIL
>>545105831>Trump will invade?Hopefully. There is precedent for the US doing similar things in the past and invading Western Hemisphere nations and installing a preferred President>Haiti '94>Panama '89>Grenada '83>Dominican Republic '65This is even more likely under the Donroe version of Monroe Doctrine.You Zoomers should be happy about this, getting drafted and deployed to Brazil will be much more fun than if you got sent to Iran or Ukraine.
>>545106000
>>545105831Trumps gonna deploy the discombobulator on Lula.
>>545108543maybe, just maybe, marçal shouldn't have told renan voters to put their vote on their ass if he wanted their vote on the second round?
>>545108358Lula defended "saidinha" (for burgers, we allow violent criminals to leave prison for christmas and fathers day) on national TV. He also defends violent criminals as victims of society who just want some beer.He also threatened Flávio during a debate after looking like he was gonna cry for the entire thing.So no, I don't believe your argument, anon.
I'm your president so, I'm going to hide on another continent!!
>>545106631>Flavio is a pussy and declares this on foreign land. He is just seeEeething that he couldn’t pardon his father like they originally planned. lmaoThanks genius.
>>545105831Lmao he's keeping the door open for an invasion and violent removal of Lula by the US and his subsequent installation as president.Brazil should send some operatives here to "remove" him first.
>>545107047and you can easily find places where lula got 0 votes. Small towns and shitholes will always vote for one candidate.
when the dems take over and send him and his brother back, that's when things will get fun
>>545106018that's right chudstrans-winning is heckin valid
>>545107184>"WHITE" sure...
>>545106326No way.Brazil is different from Venezuela.While in Venezuela Maduro literally stole the election (declaring himself the winner and refusing to back it up afterward), in Brazil the process was different: Lula literally bought the votes of the poor, retarded people with negative IQs. He promised money in their bank accounts, debt forgiveness, and a bunch of free stuff. He basically said that anyone who voted for him would receive money in return, and the institutions didn't stop this "electoral crime" because they're all dominated by corrupt figures who support Lula.There's no grounds there for the U.S. to overthrow a government. It was the Brazilian people who elected Lula. They sold their votes.
>>545107926>>545107926It was harder for Lula to campaign from a cell?
>>545108400The very own nature of secret votes opens room for any random fuck to question if anything was rigged or not, in the end all you can do is hope that the losing side accepts their loss with honor instead of throwing a tantrum like Flavio did. >>545108448The important missing facts here are that>we have a decree that all public transport has to stay available, for free, during elections day>the mayor of a city where Lula always wins decided to only let 60% of the buses go because of some bizarre case where people put stickers of Lula's party in a number of them (whether it was retards or falseflaggers is still a mystery, but it happened at 4 AM)>it's such a shitstorm that he's declared a criminal>Lula asks for an time extention for the cities where similar things happened>coincidentally, Brazil was being hit by heavy rains on the elections day, focused mostly on places where Flavio has more support>so he ALSO requests a time extension, only for the cities hit by rain where he should win>the TSE which should be the one dealing with this stalled all day to make any decision, so the STF (presided by that single guy) did it>result: like 35k votes total, most of which went to Flavio ironicallyI wish the TSE gave a cheeky reply like "fine then we'll remove all votes counted after 5 PM" but Flavio would just make another excuse anyway.
>>545108833>defended saidinhahe defended it exclusively for semi-open regime, aka work release conditions, never for violent criminalshaven't seen him paint violent criminals as victims of society, would appreciate a source>threatened Flaviohe said the investigations already ongoing against Flavio would be able to proceed if Flavio lost the election and thus his parlimentary immunity, this ins't a threat, it's just the plain truth
>>545107832Bashar Assad was training to become an eye surgeon because he was the younger brother who no one expected would ever have any power (and also was kind of a nerd). His older brother Bassel was the heir apparent, but Bassel died in a car wreck in the '90s so Bashar suddenly got thrown into that role, and then a few years later took over after his father died. I don't think he ever really had any desire to be dictator, and only ended up there because of his family obligations and pressure.After he was overthrown and went into exile in Moscow, he had zero interest in continuing to LARP as dictator or try to regain power. Supposedly he spends most of his time playing videya games and trying to get back into ophthalmology.
>>545108663In this case it was very clear cut, Paco.>>545108771Renan only had 2 million votes and many of his followers lost faith in him after he switched sides.The other 3 candidates though (7 million combined) all declared support to Flávio.
>>545108543>9 million people are drones who automatically accept voting for Bolsonaro because they hate Lula so muchIf this were a Venezuela situation of 49% x 50%, it'd be a more interesting discussion. But it is not far-fetched to conclude that Lula actually won legitimately, because Flavio Bolsonaro botched the debates, his campaign lost the narrative in the second round, and his proposals actually failed to impress and show that he'd be any different from Lula.If there is fraud (there is always some degree of fraud in democracy), it was the Supreme Court and federal police tempering in the elections from day zero, or Facebook / Meta rigging the algorithmn to favor the pro-Israel candidate.The argument that there was fraud in the voting process itself is kaputt and a waste of time, since it involves non-falsifiable information and rests on the stupid claim that people with more information cannot be compelled to vote if they hadn't, or change their vote if they had. Election is not math, that people who voted Renan Santos will automatically vote a Bolsonaro who screwed Renan Santos by skipping all debates. In fact, many Renan Santos supporters refused to vote or voted Lula, which will allow to consolidate Renan Santos as the alternative in the future.If you want to call fraud, accuse the Supreme Court justices and the feds for trying to "manage" the democracy, because that indeed happened under the pretense of following the law and there was no effort to hide it.If you want to push the illegal elections argument, don't argue uphill when you already have the moral high ground of competing against Moraes's candidate.
>>545106117Isn't lula also a criminal? From what I've read, it does seem like some very suspicious stuff happened with that Supreme Court Judge.
>>545109177>haven't seen him paint violent criminals as victims of societyHe literally said thieves just want a beer lol>he said the investigations already ongoing againstHe threatened him with bullshit charges. "You're going to have problems when you lose your immunity" said the most corrupt president in the history of Brazil.
>>545108543The twist: he didn't only get 3m votes, but he also LOST a fuckton of votes thanks to the aggressive second turn campaign by Lula. That's what you people can't accept because you think people can't ever change their votes.Blame Marçal, Pavanato, Nikolas and Flavio himself for all being retarded in the second round campaign.
>>545108187Look at all that proof. Holy shit. It's virtually irrefutable.
>>545109303>thanks to the aggressive second turn campaign by Lula.>m-muh Janones and his self-love group did itHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Flavio just revealed itself to be a mediocre candidate and a crooked, typical Rio de Janeiro politician in the end. Now he is crying that he lost the election due to his own mediocrity.They should've backed Caiado or Renan Santos, who'd have surefire defeated an octagenarian.
>>545106355fucking kek what a bitch (fkwab) also ran away like a naughty pussy
he is right, he is the president, clearly the election was a fraud
I'm pretty curious about what his own party, that already accepted the results of the election, will say about this
The strange case of stealing the elections but letting right wing governors, senators and deputies get elected
>>545109370mblcuck, renan is a nigger
>>545105831kek what a clown
>>545109370>Flavio just revealed itself to be a mediocre candidate and a crooked, typical Rio de Janeiro politician in the end. Now he is crying that he lost the election due to his own mediocrity.That is an OPINION. Not one bit of it is an independently empirically validated objective fact.
>>545109267yes.all of the bolsonaro family, lula, and lula's son are absolutely corrupt criminals.I think the powers that be wouldn't allow a non-corrupt president to be the winner, here.however, I, personally, opted for lula this time, as the lesser evil.
>>545108187>it's realLame. Oh, well, at least he still calls out all the irregularities and electoral crimes in his text. Still opens the door to revoking Lula's ticket.
>>545109464thats why it is fraud, how can someone win everywhere but not to president? there is some wrong, the math isnt right
>>545109280no source then>bullshit chargesthe investigations already ongoing against him? the ones that Jair supressed by changing the director of the federal police when he was president? saying he was going to have troubles without his immunity is again just the plain truth, not a threat>most corrupt president in the history of Brazildebatable and doesn't really mean anything in this discussion either way
>>545109143The summary of what happened is that basically, the judge who declared Lula guilty was extremely partial. As proof of how shit Jair Bolsonaro was, he made no effort to stop the things that allowed said judge to be declared incompetent in that case, which is what removed Lula's charges and allowed him to be freed. Note that the same Jair also changed the head of police multiple times to stop every investigation against... Flavio, this election's loser. I guess he just didn't see Lula as a threat at that point, absurd levels of hubris must run in the family.
>>545109303Nobody but a one party of corrupt Brazilians thinks that election wasn't rigged.
It's not just about those 30,000 votes; while the election was being extended, monitors from Bolsonaro's Liberal Party were kicked out of the central election operations room in Brasília.>flavio also asked for an extensionhe asked it for it 2 hours before the 5PM deadline, and for the cities that were affected by heavy rain, and he made his request to TSE which is the institution supposed to hold authority over elections.the supreme court intervened at the request of Lula, and the decision was made by Lula's former lawyerAND, the decision was put in place AFTER THE DEADLINE. meaning several sections were already closedthe worst part is the 2h where the sections were closed and unsupervised with full access by poll worker in any serious country this election would have been annulled.this is a list of absurdities which a single one of them would be enough to make a rescheduling the reasonable decision
>>545109370yep.I voted for lula, and would have voted for renan santos, instead.but couldn't let flávio win.>>545109464precisely this.the elections were legitimate.bolsominions are sore loosers.
>>545109614>>545109614if they say it was a fraud, they get arrested, why do you think they got flavio pasport?
>>545109303>lula went VIRAL>he had HOT SAUCE in his PURSE
>>545109068Finally, some butthurt with logic and facts instead of the >muh rigged
>>545109637shut the fuck with this petista crap you making me angry, stop saying bullshit here, people here are dumb and arent going to search for the actual info
>>545109267>Isn't lula also a criminal? From what I've read, it does seem like some very suspicious stuff happened with that Supreme Court JudgeThe case against Lula was botched and the charges were dropped. Basically, Lula was accused of favouring some government contractors, and the main argument to it were that said contractors supposedly gifted him an apartment in a middle-class city and did some reforms in his personal farm. It was very lowbrown stuff, not scandalous at all, and much of it was part of typical brazilian politics of handing over gifts and being courteous with people who have power. Odebrecht (a large contractor) was run by personal friends of Lula, who have supported his movement since college times.The other accusation against Lula is that his party bribed some center parties to help him get proposals across in Congress, which Lula himself was never persecuted over, and some of his politicians were arrested. Bribing corrupt politicians who demand money to pass laws is just also part of the brazilian "democratic" culture.I am not saying Lula is a saint. He got gifts, then the people charging him botched his trials and made it easy for the Supreme Court to let him off.Bolsonaro (father), however, is a saint. It is just his dipshit son (Flavio Bolsonaro) who was always a piece of shit, and the worst possible Bolsonaro they could put to compete in an election.The way I see it, the rightwing pulled defeat out of the jaws of victory. They had it in the bag, and even some Supreme Court justices favoured them. America also helped him, if Rubio, Mark Zuckerberg and Kushner are reliable representatives of America.Michelle Bolsonaro (Bolsonaro father's wife and a teacher for deaf students) would have defeated Lula fair and square.
>>545109634the number of votes after 5 p.m. were largely insufficient to alter the election results.you lost.
>>545109649I am relatively certain the 2020 election was stolen too by the amount of pissed off people there were at the time.
>>545109719i like flavio but eduardo would be a better president ngl, i dont know if it is you that said that but nigga you voted for lula? you a part of the problem
>>545109522kek so lula too has a son availablehow long is this saga going to continue>>545109068this sounds based
>>545109370>Renan Santoslol so you really are an M13L troon. Figures.>>545109578In the debate he defended it, anon. He literally said that even if some of them rape or rob while outside, the others that haven't (yet) shouldn't. No one wants that.>suppressed by jairlol Lula literally changed people all over much more than Jair ever did.>debatable and doesn't really mean anythinglmao
So it's going to be 4 years of kike and evangelical tears because bolsomierda lost?
>>545109766you can't even read. this was addressed on literally the first sentence. nobody is claiming that these votes were enough. the "voting" was extended precisely so they had enough time to manipulate the conversion of votes. 2 hours unsupervised.
>>545109719>Lula was accused of favouring some government contractors,I'm sure that's the only corrupt shit that asshole is up to.
>>545107175You people are scum of the earth. I suppose putin and kim jong un don't cheat in their elections either because there's no proof. It's totally normal for 100% of votes in any given area to go completely to one candidate
>>545109838>kek so lula too has a son availableLula's family is so involved in politics that almost no one knows he actually has 5 sons
>>545105972You are embarassing
>>545109068>Lula literally bought the votes of the poor, retarded people with negative IQs. He promised money in their bank accounts, debt forgiveness, and a bunch of free stuff. He basically said that anyone who voted for him would receive money in returnbig if true.I honestly did not see any of this happening.by the way, I voted for him without knowing this.now I want my free money!KEK!
>>545109719His charges were dropped because one (1) of many, many judges who judged the case said something mean about him on WhatsApp. And the decision to annul it was made years after, around the election against Jair's reelection.You're full of shit, MBcuck.
>>545107715>the odds are low that means it can't happen!!!The absolute state of rightoids.
>>545107175always for the left KEK! stop lying nigga KEK!
>>545109953>rightoidMan...
>>545109368>>545109663Brother, you'd be surprised by how much power those zap aunts have. Or not, because that's exactly what happened but you're here unable to accept that it happened.>>545109614How would anyone even be able to prove that fraud happened or didn't happen anyway? All votes are already logged and public available, the electronic ballots and their source code were also audited by all parties before the elections happened. The only thing people have left is bizarre theories like votes getting swapped under very specific conditions or some undetectable code that adds 10% votes all over the country because the numbers didn't match their expectations (note: they're also mentally children who can't accept losing). Maybe paper ballots? No way, the US are an example of how much worse things can get.
Wow the zionists vs the marxists. I love democracy
>>545108448>Busses in 4 million votersHeh nothin personal Flabio
>>545109953Yes, if you weren't a low IQ primate you would know that probability does label such abnormalities as impossible.
>>545109864that's a plain lie.
>>545110010just accept it was rigged man stop coping because you hate flavio
>>545110040If you weren't a low IQ primate, you'd know that impossible probabilities don't even exist with a 0% chance.
>>545109197declaring support doesn't mean their voters will followrenan never openly declared support for lula, but offending voters directly might have a even strong influence I think.just accept PT went on panic mode, gibs like 6x1 and the bets banning have something like 80% support and mobilizing the undecided worked against flavio that had a higher rejection.
poor people voot for goomunism and then everyone is poor but equal, then the goobermint realizes it needs scapegoat so it picks the son of the first scapegoat to instill the illusion of choice
huehuehue, that's what happens in ""democracy"" where officials are elected by vote, enjoy your kiked system!
Brazillian states should now send their tax moneys directly to the Flavio true central government office in Miami
>>545110010Mind you, one of the rumours going was that PL was asking the people that oversee the voting to send the results to them asap and they already knew they were fucked way before the official results
>>545105831https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government-in-exile
>>545106326He did but here is the funnyHe put the watch on his br passport. But he used the italian oneThey are THAT incompetent
>>545106326He won't do shit because the Brazilian government isn't going to sell out Lula like the Venezuelan one sold out Maduro. Please refer to Iran for the mutt humiliation ritual that ensues if he still tries to go through with it without a deal.
>>545109238>or voted Lula, which will allow to consolidate Renan Santos as the alternative in the futurethanks, mate.that's me, you retarded anons.
>>545105831That's some tough talk from somebody who ALSO sleeps in a Minions themed bed.
>>545105831Yeah, he could declare himself a woman and start using they/them or she/her as his new pronouns, no one believes this grifter anymore. He and his family have lost all the credibility they had left. He promised he would never flee Brazil, but he shamefully fled through the Brazilian-Argentine border dressed as a woman just hours later.
>>545109546As I said before, because Brazil just doesn't give a fuck. This kind of thing happens in every election, the defeated candidate usually just packs up and leaves as well UNLESS they're a Bolsonaro who will kick and scream fraud because they were supposed to be undefeatable gods or something (and then run away to not face the shame of losing).Like, just chill down and try to build things back up because in 4 years the elections will happen again, with neither Lula nor Bolsonaro (I hope), and these bizarrely fragmented results will happen again. And for the sake of God please find a better rightwing candidate because I want to vote for the right again.
>>545109267It's Brazil anon, they're all criminals lol
>>545109850once again he defended it exclusively for work release conditionsa minority abusing a system means the system should not exist? I personally don't think saidinhas should exist at all but this argument is the most retarded way to argue against it>but Lula did it more than Jair didglsd we agree on there being tangihle charges against Flavio that Jair supressedyes, who the most corrupt president in our history is doesn't mean anything in this argument about Lula'a stance on violent criminals and the charges against Flavio
>>545110318>with neither Lula nor Bolsonaro (I hope),these retards will try some bolsonaro again, there are bolsonaros sprouting from rocks, instead of someone else for an easy win
in such cases, if a defeated candidate refuses to accept the outcome and alleges electoral fraud demanding a recount or a re-vote the political situation often descends into chaosthis is precisely why many nations in the developing world suffer from severe political instability, frequently marked by civil wars and coupsotherwise, you could just do something retarded like electing three presidents, as they do in bosnia and herzegovina
>>545106595I don't know if this is true or not, but I choose to believe it.
>>545110441Jair Renan 2030
>>545110351>work release conditionsThe curious "work release" people who go around raping women. Sure.>>but Lula did it more than Jair didBolsonaro changed one guy, Lula changed many. And I never said Jair changed him for corrupt reasons, faggot.>>545110108At least most of their votes would've gone for the obvious right-winger, but sure, bro.
>>545110318Is it just a case of Bolsonaro nepotism for how flavio became the presidential candidate, or is there a deeper structural issue there that could risk more terrible candidates getting forced onto the right?
>>545105831Instead of hating each other, why not simple split the country in two?You could have your chudtopia and the trannies would have theirs..
>>545110514>go around raping womenhe actually explicitly pointed out rape as one of the crimes that should never get the benefit but nice trysince it looks like you're just going to ignore the original points of the discussion to try to make it about Jair and Lula I will just end this here
>>545110523Absolute, shameless nepotism. Flavio neved did anything of worth in his entire career, got himself involved in multiple scandals and shat himself during a live debate. Everyone was expecting Tarcisio de Freitas to be the big rightwing candidate until he pussied out and Jair personally picked Flavio, despite even his wife being a better choice. (She then had some fights with Flavio and apparently even voted Lula out of spite too. Mild kek)
>>545109464Felinigger shitting up the board, as usual
>>545110774>shat himself during a live debateFlavio shats himself during a live debateTrump shats himself during some white house coverageI hope they never do a live with the 2 together
nuke brazil
>>545110632No, he said "if someone goes out and does that, that doesn't mean others should lose the right, prisons are for 'reabilitation' after all lol"I don't get why you shills would come here defend the commie honestly
>>545110523Trick question, Brazil doesn't have a Right wing anything
>>545110905yes? as I said before a few people abusing a system is a weak argument to remove the system entirelylast reply
>>545105831It takes Bols to lose and declare victory
>>545111111
>>545105831Who wants to be president of monke land?
>>545110774>shat himself during a live debateBut enough about Lula.
by the way, the presidential system is a political structure that carries significant riskamong first world countries, the only countries where the president serves as the actual head of government are south korea, the us, and francewhile many people may not be aware of this, the vast majority of countries that utilize a presidential system belong to the third worldin south korea, some minor political parties still advocate for a parliamentary cabinet systema drawback of the presidential system is that the president monopolizes an excessive amount of political poweron the other hand, if the opposition party holds a majority in the legislature, the president’s power can paradoxically become completely neutralized, rendering them unable to carry out any reforms
>>545109185I already know that dumb mutt. That wasn't my question. Are you retarded or just another illiterate.You even used like wiki or ChatGPT. Dumb fucker.Maybe you read through the thread because you just wrote bullshit everybody knew and KNOWBODY asked about. Kys dumb mutt, fucking drive-by poster.
>>545111076>be gangster>kill, rob, rape, sell drugs, do whatever you want>get arrested >be allowed to go see your family like a good boy>rape, kill, rob and never return to prison>b-b-b-but muh system!!!
>>545106151Fucking redditor
>brazil thread>no beach bunda kino
>>545111209>KNOWBODY-K, of course.
>>545111269
>be foreign agent>Narrowly fail to coup>Escape to hostile country>From said country incite civil war Unironically a bona fide case of priority termination. What the fuck are Brazil glows doing?! Get to work!
>>545107712many, many people believe this election to be legitimate.I'm not a leftist, much less a fucking petista.I didn't want lula as president, but I didn't want flávio harder.also, I know many rich people who are definitely rigt/neoliberal, and even ones that actually voted for flávio, knowing he's corrupt, but thinking he would be better for the economy than lula, all who acknowledge the legitimacy of lula's victory, and recognize that the acts of flávio after the election are prejudicial to the country and our democracy.
Why are glowys seething so hard. I never see a chimp out like this you lost tranny get over it.
>>545105876/thread
>>545109838>>545109899I doubt any of them will be president.I also doubt (and hope) no bolsonaro will be president, anymore.
>>545105831Who cares. The fact he's done all this and had it prepared shows without a doubt he's a foreign agent for zionist control. Imagine being a fucking cuck and siding with this stupid nigger.
>>545111368He asked for bunda kino, not a bunch of ugly macaca roasties.
>>545111422Are those rich acquaintances that you mentioned STF judges, perchance?>Captcha: a bunch of Jew stars
>>545111422And I've seen people all over publicly discussing that the election was probably rigged.
>>545109303>LOST a fuckton of votesYeah that doesn't happen ever, you'd have to be convicted of chlid rape or something for this to ever actually happen.I'm slowly realizing this was rigged and they pay people to post here seeing all of these posts.>>545108663>Multiparty democracyAlso doesn't actually exist, just a thing people say.
Behold: an election "winner" right before his victory speech.
>>545111604>le zionistAny major political party is pro-jewish. Anti-zionism is irrelevant and doesn't touch on the fact that jews control banks, the media, education and every other institution that dictates what you're allowes to think and what you're allowed to do. Israel could be nuked today and you'd still be a kike slave.
>>545111881Give him a break, he's corinthiano
>>545111661Don't bother with that crypto petista. I fucking despise that feminist cuck Flávio, a bigger pussy than his dad, but I would never vote for PT/PSOL/REDE/any of those woke garbage parties, much less vote for that druken criminal boomer.So, what did I do? I didn't vote at all. Even if there was someone good out there, you can't vote your way out of jewish games.All those petista faggots and bots spamming the clearnet with "I voOOOOtEd fOr lUlA beCAusE He'S lEss eVIl tHaN BolSOkike" are doing what do best, lie.
>>545111517>>545105876Your entire existence is getting your feelings hurt once for being a tranny and then going NO UHow will you "no u" when we cancel elections and put you in prison forever?
>>545111881You lost tranny
Based! Legitimate Brazilian government in exile. Will Blupf respond?
>>545106927lula gained over 10 million votes in the 2nd round that's impossible, simple as
>>545106326>to monitor>build a coupMaybe don't illegally seize power with fake votes to implement a communist regimeBetter dead than red isn't a snappy saying, it's a statement of we will fucking wipe out every one of you soulless transgender communist abominations
>>545111638can you provide said bunda kino? otherwise, i'm going to agree with whatever his opinions are on what is going on in brazil currently
>>545107296>>545106710We're monitoring your posts btw.
>>545106326Anon Lula wanted him out of the country, do you really think that idiot can make a real escape?
>>545106000One would assume on an international forum like this that your peoples would understand why your countries always stand behind the rest of the world but apparently not. El Salvador was the political equivalent of a Latin American country winning the lottery.
>>545108206Probably because contrary to shill spam, israelis don't actually want rightwing nationalist governments since communist shitholes are weak and useless.
>>545108659GoodTotal commie death
>>545111645heh!good one, anon!no, unfortunately, they aren't.I feel here in sao paulo things were very neatly split.about half of people voted for bolso, and half for lula, among poorer and richer people.I honestly see no anomaly, here.
>>545112157Sorry burger, unlike my fellow macacos, I am not a gooner and I am proud to say I have zero videos of tattooed foids in my disks.I'll give you a kike feminist though, as a parting gift.
>>545112157Beach n' bunda
>>545112042Everyone in Brazil loses under Lula, retard.>>545111993Lula is pro-censorship, pro-taxes and anti-businesses. I voted for Bolsonaro
>>545106772>100% fraud and they went way too overboard with itAnd they still didn't win. What, you think its mere coincidence that Ecuador, Bolivia, Guatemala, Chile, Peru, Colombia all had local socdem populists lose to the ZOG infiltration candidate by a minuscule margin? And that all those countries are now giving away mining rights to American Israeli firms and allowing datacenters to be built near water-sensitive ecosystems and reserves? Lol GTK
>>545111993>I didn't vote at all.You did vote for Lula. I don't understand right-wingers who refuse to support the right-wing candidate. Flavio might be shit, but Lula is shite AND a leftist. It's a no-brainer really. I didn't vote but my cope is that neoliberalism with or without cultural marxism (the only difference between those parties IMO) all lead to the same end result of megacorps having full control while telling kids to be gay and importing africans to replace them, so I have no reason to care.
>>545112378>t-thanks... have a radically old jude
>MBL groypers in the thread mad at flavio because their manlet nick fuentes was bought by PTKEK
>>545105831Brazilbros...I don't feel so good.For real though, what are the odds your currency goes into Argentina mode now?
>>545109068>He basically said that anyone who voted for him would receive money in returnDamn leftists do be like that LOL
>>545112502That doesnt matter in Latin AmericaLula already said he'll accept any foreigner power to exploit our lands whether it is chinese, american or french "as long as we keep our SOBERANY" (whatever that means)
he's just following the trump playbook this is what you do to be a giant asshole
>>545105831How can I too come live in the United States of New Brazil? I want to join in with the new administration.
>>545112606>I don't understand right-wingers who refuse to support the right-wing candidateI am not right wing, aka neocuck. Did you read the part where you can't vote your way out of this, nigger? These are selections, not elections, and on top of that, this shithole uses one of the most unsafe methods of digital voting that exists (only literal jeets use them).
>>545105831>So now what?Now what is he received backing from the us government and your president will be abducted in the name of freedom and democracy just like what happened in venezuela.hope you enjoy whatever rights he signed away for your people while you still have them.
ok so deport him back get this hue out of my state
>>545112669It won't, Lula won't change anything about the economy
>>545105831god this is pathetic
>>545112669>-1.98%oh yeah without a doubt
>>545112495Why do I feel like I won?
>>545112798So you're an anti-capitalist? That's the only acceptable position if you didn't vote. If not, Lula will shift the overton window even more towards woke garbage, so if that's your only contention you should've voted right. When I say vooooot, I mean support.
>>545106047pretty damn Chad behavior, time to witness them storm the beaches of rio
>>545106047>>545113149everyone in the country is calling him a coward and comparing it to when lula got jailed but stayed to face his sentence
>>545105876FPBP
>>545113239>everyone in the countryEh, no I'm friends with both bubbles and leftists are calling him a coward and MBLcucks (leftists larping as groypers) are doing it as wellHis supporters are glad that he left to avoid being persecuted with bogus charges and are finding the situation to be hilarious, especially since BR intelligence was trailing him 24/7He wouldn't have support if Xandão didnt issue his passport annulment SEVEN minutes after the electionWay too obvious
>>545107046No, he fled because judges were looking at bolsokikes corruption and their crypto scamming shit .Fucking kikes, they are 100% fleeing to Israel just like all other vile kikes after commiting an heinous crime
>>545111269best i can do is a samurai
>>545113402Yes I watched TV Oeste reporting and chat and many others. These elections proved that the ones in a bubble are bolsonaristas. lots of them thought they would reach 60% or something of the vote. Anyone can think sees he is retarded. lots of people are more worried about an announced state tax increase than flavio's fanfic letter
>>545105831Would america try a covert invasion into Brazil?
>>545112721Sure, but there's a difference between having the constitutional and lawful tools to interfere with such situations and having your president sign an unconstitutional waiver that promises no repercussions and effectively skips all lawful mechanisms to debate and enforce, leaving no room to the population but to enforce it by counterforce (which I hope we don't resort to, this place has seen enough blood). Small difference, but there is a difference.That's what the literal closeted faggot lawyer we got signed with Narco Rubio back on Barranquilla in Sep 8. Brazil has deep issues, but they won't put a dent to the act of signing away the entirety of the Amazon basin (which is mostly in Brazil) to Burgerstan which alone deserves death by a thousand cuts. The anglozog supporting Flopvio was gooning for months at the thought, now they seethe.As for the chinks, they're also NOT an ally, they're there just to stop any real industrialization in LatAm so they can assure we will continue relying on them for manufacture. The upside is they're not actively threatening the stability of the region with military threats and a deranged heretic kleptocracy, and their projects aren't overpriced designs either even if a bit trashy.
>ULTRA HAPPENING!! >DUDE SOMETHING CRAZY IS OCCURING >BIGGEST NEWS EVER! >nothing happens Stop being hysterical.
NOOOOOOOO! MY ZIOSHILL CANDIDATE LOST!!!!!!!!!!
>>545113671how much oil do they got
>even Kassio Nunes, the president of the TSE who was chosen by Jair Bolsonaro himself in 2020, has said multiple times that there was no fraud in the electionsAccept the truth and it will hurt less.
>>545105831Oh gee, this criminal horseshit again...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOibfOxrbd4
>>545109600>the judge who declared Lula guilty was extremely partial.Complete absolute bullshit narrative. Lula was convicted in multiple courts by multiple judges. His release was completely political in nature.
>>545113402>especially since BR intelligence was trailing him 24/7It means the glowniggers intentionally allowed him to leave. Either a commie master plan to avoid immediate riots or the glowniggers themselves are skeptical about the state of things and prefer to play on two fronts, just in case.It also happened once or twice in Poland after 2023.
>>545105831Is the US seriously contemplating an invasion to install this guy as the President of Brazil? Someone tell me, I have no clue, I just live here.
>>545114167He was convicted for an apartment he didn't own and had never lived in nor they present any hard proof that connected it to him, a fucking apartment. Did you read the court decision or you're just a brain dead parrot?
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/i8Lmb_VeVck
>>545105831Trump need an out for the Iran war, invading Brazil seems like the obvious move.
Flávio should start a Brazil 2 government in florida and Trump should give free asylum status to all the 50 million bolsonaristas that voted for him and whose dream is to be an american. Everyone would be happy like this.
>>545114454Notice how the commie immediately switched to another claim after clearly being shown to be wrong, rather than admitting being full of shit.Arguing with commies is impossible.
>>545114811notice how I'm not the same anon, god you're dumb
alright faggots, tell me how lula cheated.present your best theory.
>>545105831His party doesn’t support his claims so this is essentially a nothing burger unless America tries to contest it which they almost certainly won’t
The current Brazil needs to be divided in two countries and have a big and tall concrete wall between us, from the southwestern part, and the trash people from the northeastern part. I know there's a lot of crime dominated regions here in the southwestern part, but they are not as bad as the disgusting region of the northeastern part. The Northeast region in the current Brazil, the so called "Nordeste", is the worst region of all. And the winner for president, in the election that just happened, is the pro-crime party with the same northeasterner pro-crime progressive dictator old fuck again, called Lula, and they are eager to rule over all the brazilians in a manner way authoritarian than ever before. The current Brazil does not have state laws, only federal laws. Imagine how bad this is. Imagine the USA with only federal laws, that affect the entire country's population, and no state laws existing. This is how Brazil always was and still is. It's fucking awful. The most of the prisoners in Brazil are celebrating Lula's victory. The year of 2027 looks tenebrous.
The STF ("Justice" Supreme Court of Brazil) was about to arrest and kill him in prison, probably. He escaped from Brazil in the right time.Thanks, Trump, for saving our brother Flávio Bolsonaro.
>>545105831Just kill him. People who don't respect elections need to be killed so that we don't wind up being ruled over by a bunch of retarded pedophiles.
