What other careers can software engineers transition into?
>>545140016Cocksucking
>>545140016>Sirs, how can my gook ass serve the zionist economic pyramids?>Send me.Outstanding, wagedier. You'll do fine on the front lines.
>>545140016Pimping out your mother
>>545140065That’s your job already
>>545140016Holy fuck That’s devastating
You should have been cybermaxxing since like 2010, software dev was always a really weird career choice
>>545140016Thanks for the suggestion, but what will I do when a robot learns to do it faster?
>>545140016whites can't code anyway, but they sure love furries
>>545140016That is some skills right there. Impressive.
>>545140016You can code at home anon. Theyll be qa and email jockeys
You shouldn’t expect to make money from computer science. You should do it because you love it. It’s a hobby.
>>545140016If he has to practice the movement sequence 10 times before wrapping the burger really fast, couldn't he just do it slower and be more effective that way?
>>545140380that's just cope from code monkeys too old to learn new skills.anything where manual dexterity is a factor is resilient to automation since dexterous robots get really expensive.anything where the workload isn't predictable and repetitive likewise, since versatile robots get really expensiveanything where legal liability is a factor also, since taking responsibility for a robot's fuck-up is much more expensive than letting an employee take the fall.basically only programmers and some other jobs adjacent to them like QA are going to be mass-replaced. other office jobs will see drops but it won't be the end of the world and blue collar jobs are safe as safe can be.
I left software engineering to transition to business, i do requirements writing and general IT just utilizing AI.coding is dead in the water. Claude can seriously do the job of almost any general programmer now. You’d need to be deeply entrenched in a gigantic aging codebase to still feel secure at this point.
>>545140126I welcome competition.
>martial burger wrapping arts>Phear my Mcdonalds styleSad state of world indeed.I weep for it. ;_;
>>545140016warehouse factory labor maybe cashiers or customer support if they manage to kick out the pajeets
>>545140690this kind of employer is far more concerned about employee compliance in all aspects. the customers keep showing up no matter how expensive or shitty the service gets.
>>545140016They'll be lucky to be working at McDonalds when everyone gets laid off and replaced by AI.
>>545140016But they still force me to work as a code monke, i wanna be a neet again :c
>>545140016Anyone that knows neural nets and machine learning aren't afraid. We know the truth. Y'all are freaking out about something that's never going to happen. "AI" will never be truly autonomous. It can't think for itself. Ever. These companies are trying to get investors to pay big so they promise the moon. tdlr; AI is only scary to retards
I just bombed my R2 interview for the highest position I ever interviewed for. Pay was almost a million bucks I feel sad
>>545141129Wut will happen when AI replaces all bankers?That is the real threat they don't want you to know.
>>545140016systems engineers and controllers
>>545140707A dexterous hand will barely be 5k at early mass production, the software will be free.>>545140774I invested into automated requirements management, they pivoted into automated company ownership, as the initial goal was ridiculously easy with today's models.>>545141072The important part is: Minimum wage. AI companies wouldn't be worth shit if they didn't aim for robbing the middle class in the short term.
>>545141181I can barely see the goal posts now, they are just too damn quick.
>>545140690Eventually it will be committed to muscle memory and he won't have to practice before each burger. Your idiotic question is essentially "why practice a skill when you could just spend the time you spent practicing doing a shitty job instead?"
>>545141515AI has the skill. Humans have the height, facial structure, maternal heritage or wealth for successful relationships to those in power.
>>545140126Trump is doing the smile of the gender-reveal father.
>>545141181Dawg the SI/AI/NN/LLMs whatever the fuck acronym you wanna use these days, are already smarter than at minimum 50% of all humans.Billions must die.
>>545141329a couple years back a jeet woman at the bank was handling my shit and i needed to get some retirement shit moved from one place to another when i changed jobs.a year of "oh we need you to sign this again" and "oh there was an issue but we've restarted the process" was eventually revealed to be a big fucking 'fake it til you make it' gambit and this woman was completely incapable of doing the job. had some other higher-up woman call me in to the bank in person to re-do the process from square one and this bitch complains about how she had to come into the office to fix the years of problems caused by the jeet woman. i looked that idiot cunt in the eye and told her that if she was in the office monitoring things maybe I wouldn't have had a whole fucking year of being told a basic transfer is akin to deep magic and she wouldn't be here cleaning up a colossal fucking mess. she shut right up unless she needed me to sign or approve something. i fucking hate women and this idiot world crafted for them
>>545140707It was mapped out years ago
>>545141833checked, iktf
>>545140016Don't they learn a bunch of math and shit? That's kind of the most difficult thing that weeds people out in their studies. Any finance jobs, logistics jobs, probably engineering jobs with like 1 or 2 extra year of uni
>>545140016Create online poker bots and battle an army of Brazilians on ACR
I work on the hiring side for several IT companies. The majority of the feedback is that most people are full of shit. >has expert level python mentioned on resume>here is a basic python coding exercise to complete>failsThe good ones have a job. Those looking and complaining just fucking suck.
i am teaching engrisheru in SEA nowpay is "okay" since ive got a celta certification i can get better teaching jobs than the average joe. i am used to being a minimalist so my life here is better than in the west
>>545140016Go from programming to pogromming.
>>545140016>stoopid scientists can't weldblue collar retards copeyou do realize all those nerds will be your managers right?you do realize that your "sit of your pants" is nothing against a guy who knows physics/chemistry and can remember multiple pages of info in a second?
>>545140016Cute, I was just asked to interview for a robotic engineering job at warehouse. Not my problem.
>>545140065This is actually most of tech work in general, OP is looking for a new career.
>>545142300well you're a dickhead so.. they're not gonna hire you lol
>>545140707cope. little brain analysis. tasks which previously required dexterity are already being automated. you can watch a robot stitch the skin of a grape with greater precision than the best surgeon on earth
>>545140690he's training the ai to take over his new job just like he trained the ai to take over his last job
>>545142463I turned it down anyway. I already have money and side gigs. Unless im CTO they can lick my balls.
>>545140016theres nothing. theyre not qualified for anything else and overqualified for menial work. it is the most dead end job there is.
>>545140016coal mining
>>545140016If you work at a fast food place and you're not coming in drunk or high then idk wtf you're doing with your life. Learn to hit rock bottom properly.
Those burgers look disgusting. Are they really that bad in an American McD?
>>545140016NEETismget comfy
>>545143071Yes. They look ever worse sometimes.
I'm currently in a conversation with a buddy whose company hired a jeet CTO and suddenly became a jeet shop with the jeets all just using AI.They went all-in on the AI. To the point that they have a directive "no hand-coding".They define their objectives using AI. They make tickets using AI. They point AI at the tickets to write the code. They use AI to inspect the code. Then they just ship it.They've promised a massive improvement and a revolutionizing of the product by EoY, and they have instead AI'd themselves into a pit of despair.The jeets simply used the AI to build on top of the old product at the lowest levels. It was easier to treat that product as something that could be 'swapped out' once they found out a way to do it.But now they don't know how the code works, at all.It's basically just a giant wrapper on the old product that tries to pretend it doesn't need the old product. But deep-deep down, it has become inextricably intertwined with it.It's fucking hilarious. Their top engineers have all resigned. They cannot meet business objectives, and those objectives have all been rewritten by AI at this point, so they're mostly just jargon nonsense. So there's now far less direction or understanding of what the product does, and what the product IS SUPPOSED TO EVEN DO.I love hearing his stories. It's apparently a shit show so big that it might bankrupt a billion dollar company.
>>545143974From my understanding, AI can do amazing stuff with coding. I truly believe it can. And it will only get better. But when you deal with industrial-level or business-to-business type software, there's rarely enough on-paper understanding that can be transferred to the AI so it can do everything right.3rd party APIs with highly specific use-cases, very subtle differences in how processes work, and what needs to be isolated and analyzed, etc. Tiny little caveats in code that only come from years of experience with the specific business logic. Quirks and system-level considerations that only reveal themselves with months of real-world data transiting the system, etc...I mean, you still need experienced troubleshooters. And the less the code is written by AI, the easier it is to troubleshoot.
>>545140065Kek
>>545142084BEST POST IVE SEEN IN YEARS ANON. THANK YOU FOR RESTORING MY HOPE..
>>545144463>>545143974>company all ins AI>nobody understands it>has to double down on AI to get anything done>project inevitably failsEvery project has been like this for the last 3 years. Its so shit.The real kicker now is that the people that get obliterated by these retard companies making everyone redundant are going to cause a massive skills shortages as everyone re-trains and finds work elsewhere. And thats providing they havent killed themselves yet over it. Then the next set of potential engineers see what a load of bullshit the last 3 years has been and dont train for it, the people that do go for it are told to use AI, furthering the skill decline as they don't actually end up learning what the AI is doing. We're already at a point where learning new skills is massively declining because the AI can do the simple things very well so nobody is actually getting an opportunity to use their brain to develop skills because it really is just too easy to prompt for the basics. Its like maths with wolfram alpha. It's a great tool but every engineering course suffered massively because nobody bothered to learn their quadratics, now extend that to all learning and you have where we're at and currently heading. >but we can just stop itIts impossible at this point because every country is in an AI arms race and the winner of it is going to mash virtually every country into paste, or they become retards that dont think and die off. AI is a true civilisational calamity. People warned that the calculator would stop people using their brains and it did so we forced their non-usage up to a certain point in schools so that people developed a baseline of logical thought. Try doing that when every nigger in the country tells you to chatgpt the answers for everything (like we did with "googling it").
>>545140016Influencer. Make videos about cool programming projects.
>>545145915Yeah, it's so fucked dude. They're just going to keep throwing AI at the problem.>"Can you rewrite this so it's scalable?">"Can you analyze this to explain the business logic at play here?>Okay, we need the exact same inputs/outputs for every single function, but we need it in node.js... wait, python... no we're going to rust now, since only AI will ever look at it>Please define test criteria>Now write tests for it>Now write functions that pass those tests>Now please make it all work together>How do we deploy this?It's just never going to end. At some point, why even bother writing in frameworks, which only made coding easier for humans? Why not just write it all custom at the lowest level possible?
>>545140016
>>545140016What the hell is that gay derivative of shadow boxing he’s doing beforehandJust wrap my damn burger retard. No wonder you screwed up in CE/CS
>>545140016prostitutionsex work is real work after allor so have i been told
>>545140065No anon, that was their previous job already.
>>545141816Yet again, it's not smart at all. In fact it's quite stupid. Only a retard thinks it's smart, same part of the brain that sees stuff in clouds.
>>545141446Only if you're a retard.
>>545146203I imagine the follow up for programming is one universal language wrapper over all current languages that can you can choose to be compiled, run like a script or operate like bytecode. Then its a case of only ever teaching that language going forward and creating proper diagram tools that can show you the design in blocks which shows all memory interactions in real time. Then programming becomes:>computer, make me XYZ>computer makes XYZ>programmer examines block diagrams of XYZ, can playback, rewind etc etc to see the interactions>programmer notices bottlenecking at X>programmer slows down the process and zooms in to look exactly what is going in and out>programmer can then examine the code or direct the bot to the problem area by selecting the componentsBasically scratch but a very advanced version that doesn't have dogshit performance>>545147797People confuse quick with smart. LLMs can very quickly create something that is approximately what you want and most of the time an approximation is fine. But for anything that requires precision, the approximation trade off isn't acceptable. Its the equivalent of speaking in generalisations, its correct but doesnt capture any nuance.
>>545143974>>545144463>From my understanding, AI can do amazing stuff with coding. I truly believe it can. And it will only get better. But when you deal with industrial-level or business-to-business type software, there's rarely enough on-paper understanding that can be transferred to the AI so it can do everything right.Pretty much. Sounds like their problem is obviously the jeets themselves who probably just prompt everything without ever bothering to care about the underlying reasoning they're asking the ai to program. Then it becomes exponentially worse because none of the jeets are communicating with each other (honestly) they're just siloed to themselves prompting shit and then calling it done.
>>545140016>>545140680when i went to college they pushed comp sci degrees so hard saying it was the best way to get a great starting salary. i remember hearing this multiple times a year from advisors and teachers. anyone want to join me in a class action lawsuit against their college?
What now?
>>545140016OF>>545141816This. Anyone who denies it are part of that useless half of the population and need to be culled ASAP. Too many people just ‘floating’ around so to speak
>>545141903landscapers immune
>>545143974>. It's apparently a shit show so big that it might bankrupt a billion dollar companyHow is that a billion dollar company
It has been years now, when are we being replaced again?
