Why is driving this anti-AI sentiment? Why does AI use in code need to be disclosed?
>>545140853GayI is fake as shit. it's a marketing oloy just like (((the cloud))) which is just web hosting.
>>545141060marketing ploy*
>>545140853fork you kike
>>545140853Ummmmmmmmmm ackshually its called super intelligence nao
>>545140853It all comes down to ego, people have their ego hurt when they spend years upon years of their life learning how to code only for an AI to be infinately better than them in every way.People simply cannot seperate themselves from their jealousy, envy and greed
>>545141251for sure. I'm 100% fine with you paying taxes and supporting me on welfare lol I don't want to be around all those autistic booger eating spergs at the office anywaythanks buddy!
>>545140853>being anti-AI is woke>hence, being pro-AI is the based and redpilled position>the best end-state scenario for AI is a literal communist utopiaHelp me understand
>>545141334Can you not create anything to forge your own way? AI is simply a tool. If you can figure out how to use it to your advantage then I guess you're maybe a dumbass? My IQ is like 46 and I figured it out. Wtf is your issue?
>>545141427this entire thing is a bunch of pipe dreams. the elites think they're going to fire everyone but at some point everyone will just starting rioting and stealing and etc and the elites will run and hide and the cycle will reset. this whole ai thing is pointless
>>545141576Fear is the egos biggest weapon to keep you small.
>>545141572>> I figured out how to use a promptlol ok bud. cool. using it to your advantage requires there to be a need filled in the economy and they're all filled. the only thing left in America is selling useless shit to mindless consumers and I'm not wasting my life chasing fake ass hyperinflated jewbuxx
>>545140853Aparently only way to keep AI shit out is to use non2032 Win10 and manually stop updates and make outbound firewall for them
>>545141639lol you'll figure it out one day bro. been there done all that. eventually you will realize you're just a rat on a wheel and you wasted the first half of your life. you'll slow down and chill and hopefully enjoy the second half
>>545141251>an AI to be infinately better than themThat or we have fatigue from llm slop being in everything everywhere all the time.
>>545141746why would you use windows at all, they record literally all of your activity and send it to Microsoft servers
>>545141677>not creative or smart enough to figure how to use AI to make money>that means every need must already be filledLow IQ.
>>545141774You're acting as if humans never once made slop on their own, just look at deviant art or that yandere game's slop code
>>545141774>now back to watching marvel slop #399488
>>545141251Everyone knows that learning a specialized skill like coding, some management role, being a mathematician, can only be learned once in life, the second attempt will see much worse results.Also, one only has the time for two or three of these attempts, at life-shattering economic loss.So these roles with decade+ learning curves were protected by societal contracts.Now, all of them get rugged nearly simultaneously. Retraining into trades is infeasible, too, because once you weaseled your way into a position to open a trades business, some gigacorp takes every niche with Unitree/UBTech/Hyundai/whatever robots.The proposed solution is total dependency on the government, via UBI taxation. Of course, this can only lead to government overreach, ideological purity spirals, economic incarceration, mass suffering.
>>545140853>use AI to make OS without AI
>>545142226The sheer number of that was much much lower because slop didn’t literally take like 2-3 seconds to make back then.
>>545140853People who can't program don't understand, but the code AI writes is really, genuinely fucking garbage. And by "can't program," I also mean the boot-camp web dev type retards, even the ones who have a "senior" title. They have been shitting everything up for many years already with atrocious amounts of tooling, copy/pasting from stackoverflow, and using gargantuan frameworks in an attempt to avoid writing code.It should be obvious when the average web app, maybe something that lets you add an entry into a database, takes orders of magnitude more resources than what the Apollo program needed to reach the moon.And the pro-AI dumbasses continually claim that it's not garbage, and "two more weeks" and it's going to match a human programmer. But then we see, as in the Anthropic source leak, they are doing shit like putting the main loop in a print function with 3.5k lines. Again, you don't understand how bad it is because you don't program, you just see that it somewhat kinda works (at least, it's a million times better than what YOU could program). But that's because you fucking normies are so used to being shoveled shit, you've started to like the taste.
>>545142492Yeah, it's a tough issue. Either stagnate into primativism or progress to dissolution of the selfTbh I prefer tehcnological progress, if we're gonna die anyway might as well see the AI do some cool shit no Human could ever achieve.
>>545140853It's a neo nazi anti-hindu propaganda
SI*
>>545142708Yeah, the main issue with using AI for mass changes is that it compounds problems upon problems. It might still technically compile and "work", but it wont be performative, it will have huge UI and usability issues, etc.So devs like me have to tard wrangle AI output and its a fucking soul sucking endeavor. That's why I prefer to manually code the hard stuff and make AI do boilerplate crap that's impossible to fuck up.
>>545142221you have a long road ahead of you. you're not as smart as you think
>>545141572I don’t have it handy but there’s one of those bell curve memes where the wizard and the grug are both saying “just type what you want into Claude” and the midwit is trying to do complicated agentic workflows and shitIt’s basically true, I’m on the wizard side and I just start my prompt with like “bruh today we deploy a staging Prometheus server get to it” and it fucking happensPeople who don’t get this yet are not gonna make it. It will be just like the initial adoption of PCs in the 80s… some think it’s a fad, some realize it is inevitably going to take over everythingNow remember the gold rush lesson: to get rich, sell shovels, don’t dig for gold. Attach yourself to the value stream and let those who have less to lose go and explore the edges. Sure, some of them will strike it rich, but most will churn on failing products nobody hears of. All of them will need processors and ram and nice desk chairs….
>>545140853excuse me xir, it is si not ai
>>545142708I am playing AI recompiled games done with Claude, running at unlocked framerate while goyim are still coding below target framerate emulators projects for decades
>>545140853Have you tried using AI? It's like having a jeet employee, "Yess saar I can do" and they don't do what you just asked.
>>545142221you don't create needsyou can create a sales pitch to sell useless shit to mindless consumers. but like I said, not wasting my life on that shit
>>545140853I'm not into computer programming, so this all seems like bullshit for these needs to argue about.Ashley, I believe that Israel must be destroyed.
>>545142961I already made a ton of money from AI, vastly more than at any wagey job. It’s so easy you literally have to be like 70 IQ to not be able to figure out how to do it.
>>545140853Why are you against transparency?
>>545143065get a life homo
>>545143011>“just type what you want into Claude” and the midwit is trying to do complicated agentic workflows and shitIts because they're dealing with different things. AI is really good at blank slate development with small change sets. Your example of setting up a server for instance is very manageable. The entire server config can sit in the context window. There's not really that much going on.Now take a repo with hundreds of classes, hundreds of dependencies, complex requirements and inputs that are often not defined in the repo and are external to that repo and have AI try to make changes in there. It just cannot keep up the context to make sensible changes, leading to that "tard wrangling" feeling.Every single time I use AI in personal small projects I feel like a god. Compare that to how I use it at work for our dozens upon dozens of production repos for our different APIs and CMPs and its night and day. It all comes down to context and complexity, and of course a personal project to download tagged fap content from Mastadon is going to be much more straightforward to work in.
>>545140853Most people's exposure to AI is >slop memes>slop fake news>slop tiktok brainrot>slop ragebait on insta/facebook>AI-obsessed managers who have ChatGPT turn every simple communication into a 5 paragraph slop message full of emojis and generic AI speech patterns and expect you to read and interact with it seriously>anecdotes of their friends losing jobs>anecdotes of kids cheating through school and not learning anythingIs it any surprise that normies hate AI?
>>545142765I got two options given to me. I want to choose something else.
>>545143222no you didn't. you're a larping faggot. you're like 19. you're white. you want to feel cool/awesome. it's ok bro. we know
It'd really complex.I am a programmer. Projects are complex. Parts must work and fit.For a project, a very detailed set of prompts must be carefully worded.It can be done, but you'll never get the holes like you can see them while designing the algorhythm.It will blow when an item is out of range, a file too long, or whatever.It can assist pretty good, though.
>>545142221Figure out how to solve the jewish problem and you'll become the richest, most respected man on earth
You know what you guys are right believe everything these AI companies say. There is no future for careers in tech please leave teach yup, it's all over choose something else. Bye!
>>545141060Imagine this is your level of understanding on a subject and you use this tone. Shameful.
>>545142677>The sheer number of that was much much lower because slop didn’t literally take like 2-3 seconds to make back then.The biggest cope was convincing brain dead normies that hand written coded projects were superior to AI written ones. With human projects it takes fucking years of uselessness and powertripping troons saying shit like "use case for functionality?" Atleast with AI you can slam together a project in a week that is mostly bug free and get the problem solved.
>>545143466lol imagine jumping on every gay ass bandwagon that ever drove by. you were on the moon landing band wagon too huh lmao
>>545143314>For a project, a very detailed set of prompts must be carefully worded.Also you can run into situations where just typing the code yourself is much faster than writing the paragraph necessary to get the AI to do precisely what you want.
>>545143499white people have zero pattern recognition. it's uncanny
>>545140853I have to use AI for my job and it sucks ass. When you add up the time I waste trying to get AI to do something, the time I waste trying to catch the errors, and the time I waste trying to correct the errors I missed until later, then it isn't worth it. Then we try setting up AI to check the AI and it's the same thing but with that agent instead. I can imagine Xzibit in my head saying, "yo dog, I heard you like AI, So now you can use AI to correct the AI that is supposed to be checking your AI."
>>545141334Someone has to mine the gold. No handouts!
>>545140853Redditors love posting doodles and all kinds of shit at kindergarten skill level and upvoting them in circlejerk. When someone posts obviously better AI creation, they start skreeching. Then they just project it to anything AI without being even remotely able to understand the matter.
>>545143714you don't have to hand it to me. I'm in your house robbing you while you're at work. nigger behavior I know. I just don't care
>>545143701the paying consumers also being the beta testers is one of the many scams that is AI
>>545140853I'm based and redpilled so I love the kike machine
>>545143701skill issue
>>545144014welcome to everyone in this thread
>>545143499What do you think of something else, like AI movies? Do you think that if there were just loads more movies, like hundreds of thousands a year, would that be good, even if 99%+ were absolute dog shit? Does that mean you're more or less likely to find something watchable, as a consumer? Software as an industry is sick and churns out garbage, the solution isn't just to make more garbage. Maybe I'm out of the loop, but I have never been excited for an AI movie, they all look like absolute trash. I don't understand how fucked up a person's standards have to be accept, much less be excited for anything AI makes.
>>545144037>> it's just cause I'm smarter than you brodude you're a fag. enjoy beating off for the rest of your life
>>545140853The root tension is seen here >>545142708It's between minimalist soicism and hyperscale "unused RAM is wasted RAM" or "CPU time is cheaper than development time" philosophy.Linux was always the "Bazaar" model which invites human slop, but people tolerated it via a social contract regarding open-source auditability.LLMs generate slop faster than they can be audited, which basically kills the social contract.You can use LLMs in a manner to debloat, understand a codebase rather than generating code, or enforcing a stoic ethos, but because "AI" is a broad and ambiguous term, the knee-jerk approach is to keep doing the hyperscale thing, in part because LLMs are themselves built by hyperscale.This results in unauditable slop, with poor ability to differentiate.There are also the copyright problems that are still working through the courts.
>>545144037all you zero pattern recognition pro AI bandwagon retards are just the next round of layoffsyou geek out, the jews take all the money, then you get dumped like a bitch at prom
>>545143880>I’m gonna be a terrorist because my chosen profession of deskwork is no longer profitablelol get arrested by flock then retard see if I care. Stomping your feet is earning 0 sympathy.
>>545144290lmao hilarious how trump flags are all now pro big government democrats. you love flock cameras and data centers nowyou morons have such a narrow view. you just can't see the big picture. it's sad to witness
>>545144290and yes, when you attempt to starve people eventually they'll just take what they need from you by force
>>545144094You boomers have no idea how to use AI. Unfortunately, it never teaches you how to use it, so without any understanding of its mechanisms you just see the empty text box, type in what you want and get upset when it doesn't work.>>545144236I thought you were saying that it's useless?
>>545143099London looking really rough these days
>>545144423you will be in the next round of layoffs
>>545140853>Why is driving this anti-AI sentiment?People are realising they have to introduce measures to limit it's power so tech bro spergs don't destroy the planet with their retardedness
>>545140853>why is driving this anti-AI sentiment?astroturfing indians trying to save their outsourced software jobswhy yes that is very ironic, with all the "saar"s flying around over the last year
>>545142708No one cares sperg. Fuck programmers
>>545144521ai isn't going to destroy anything but the jobs of people who wrote it. it's not magic. it's a computer program that writes computer programs. not that interesting
>>545144474LLMs aren't even in the realm of automating what I do for work. It's not gonna happen unless they achieve some sort of magic foom-style RSI takeoff. There isn't even a dataset to train transformers on what I work with.Not that this makes me any better, I just got lucky. You should really learn how to use AI better, though.
>>545142708I generally agree with your sentiment but white boomers never walked on the moonso please don't lend that lie any credence in an attempt to make your point
>>545140853>'Fook it, walk away' - Loonix Gaywad
>>545144697>> I'll never get payed offsaid every tech fag LITERALLY ever lmaomoron
>>545140853Trannies are mad that they worked so hard to infiltrate and ruin shit only to be devalued and replaced by something they can't hen peck.
>>545144747layed* off
>>545144747>pure pattern-matching generalized responseyeah that explains it
>>545142765lol this is the white brain. he doesn't know that he is still primitive. he believe he is amazing. a god on earth. he is super intelligent. yeah bro you're a monkey with a toy. you create problems to solve and then pat yourself on the back
>>545144842zero pattern recognition band wagon riding jew cosigning sperged out geek ass retard with no country and no future thinking a fuckin computer program that's JEWS sold you isnt gonna eventually rob you lmao
>>545144290btw even with the flock cameras your shit is still gone lol. the pawnshop owns it now
LolLmao evenProgrammers who refuse to use AI will be working McJobs in no time.
>>545145153so will you. just give it time
>>545145031Jewish businesses are in heavy competition with one another, and Chinese businesses are constantly threatening to eat their userbase in a market that's in a hard race to the bottom. There is heavy commoditization and zero brand loyalty- capitalism at its finest. You sound low IQ- are you by chance overweight? Do you know what MoE means?
a.i. haters are subhumans. its a great filter. ok here you go, dont use a.i. have fun. these people are removing themselves from the competition. no serious programmer would even consider not using a.i. thats just not a thing. and why would it be?all the "artists" who cried about a.i. = total losers who cant draw for shit. just let the losers have their little circle jerk. who cares. theyre removed and now they can stay in their little corner. i have created (none of the crying faggots has ever created anything btw) things that money could not buy before a.i. it wasnt possible. i have achieved new heights above and beyond anything previously imaginable. thanks for removing yourself from my competition.
>>545144082>Maybe I'm out of the loop, but I have never been excited for an AI movie, they all look like absolute trash. I don't understand how fucked up a person's standards have to be accept, much less be excited for anything AI makes.No fucking shit, the technology is a year or two old, coding AI is basically better than 75% of coders at this point and the Audio/Visual stuff is improving rapidly. Are you so fucking stupid that you cannot project out this pace of technological growth 5 years into the future? The AI video stuff will be far superior in the future than some CGI super hero slopfest because the characters will be natively in the scene instead of greenscreened.
>>545144908Leave it to an american to misunderstand.
>>545143300>>545143880So I guess that makes you non-white, huh? Stupid fucking Luddite, you’re incapable of understanding nuance or forward thinking. AI is already having a dramatic effect on people’s work lives and problem solving. Your hysteria and unprompted bashing of Trumptards, like they even matter in this conversation, reveals your lack of critical and contextual thinking. Tell me, how would you feel if you didn’t have breakfast this morning?
>>545142708The thing is, AI was learning on examples from meat bags, and those examples obviously included not only textbook coding, but also a lot of pajeet spaghetti code, retard code, poison-colored-hair code, intern code, etc. So obviously it won't be "beautiful". But it works. And it's made much faster than any human could hope to write.Not to mention, since there's a lot of humans asking it to make this and that, there never was so much of your "professional programmers" who could hope to compete with this amount of output for basically free, much less who would also work of niche and "for fun" projects, or those in gray zone.This is basically the same argument that had artists a few years back. Machine simply outperform meat bags, even if the results are faulty but in "good enough" category.
>>545144609Lol anon it's not 2022 anymore, AI has completely cracked video games. People are playing Fallout as Master Chief without mods. It's just straight up able to put the code of weapons and UI from one game into another. Ridiculous. Office jobs in general are on borrowed time, UBI will probably have to be introduced. It's getting better at making movies and videos too. It's over man. Just because a handful of nerds wanted to know if they could without thinking if they should
>>545140853Chinese propaganda. Shrimple as.
>>545140853Fancy matrix multiplication is pretty good at coding
>>545145811Almost all of the performance gains in the last six months have come from RL environments. Those environments use code that is overwhelmingly written by LLMs. Human codebases were used for pre-training on models 6 months ago, but that isn't really relevant now. Pre-training only takes up around 10% of compute costs for training models now- it's all going to post-training in synthetic environments. The pre-training simply establishes the semantic baseline from where RLVR takes off.Your understanding is outdated.
>>545146339>Human codebases were used for pre-training on models 6 months ago>it's all going to post-training in synthetic environmentsYeah, it will take a lot of time to stomp out all that pajeet code. Butterfly effect and all that.
>>545146674Once we finally wash the pajeet from our codebases, then we must turn inwards. For the final struggle is internal. It is to eradicate the Indian within ourselves.
>>545142708That's massive cope.Nowadays AI writes better code than 95% of devs.
>>545140853This faggot sellout said that AI was unnecesary just a few months ago. I guess the jews sent him a check.
>>545146928That's because so many "devs" are jeets. You should understand this by now.White coders don't get out-deved by AI slop. They may still use AI as part of their workflow, but all the jeets saying "Saaaaaar AI is the future it will replace all codetrans cope and seethe!" were tech mahindra jeets who got their experience doing 1 line github pulls to build up their "portfolio".
>>545147385You have been outdated. Probably you don't code yourself that's why. AI tools have evolved much more than you think. They can beat teams of devs. I don't care if you believe it or not. It's the truth at least for web apps.
>>545146955Apparently he recently (in this month) tried to use AI to experiment and AI fixed a lot of know problems in Linux, and found some that were overlooked for decades. So after that he changed his tune, saying that it it's the tool's fault for the bad code, but the retards who using it without understanding how. Or something like this.
>>545140853It'll kill code and software as something that holds value. It does prove that Stallman was correct and that everything in the end will be open source software as the code behind it will be able to be refactored in the future. If you give an advanced LLM model the source code of a working application and task it to rewrite the thing and make it work in another language it does really well at that with minimal human intervention currently. The technology to do this will improve and eventually every piece of open source software loses actual market value. Why would you pay if you can task the machine to recreate and refactor it? How you can you prove digital theft in a court in that case? The legal dimension will be especially difficult with this. I guess the end state will be that big institutions like governments, banks, traditional businesses that do things outside of software will dictate the worth of software. Because the pre approved programs they use will have additional verification mechanisms creating value, rather than just software itself.
>>545147503I'm a software dev with over a decade of experience, and you're some fat oily greek man. Of course I don't believe you because you almost certainly have never coded in your entire life.
>>545147644It's a tool and its effectiveness is dependent on how skilled the user is at writing proper questions. Something most older / senior programmers should be pretty great at considering how stackoverflow was. >>545147385The jeets are the first ones to go, and many businesses have already started to let them go. LLM models are at a point where they are excellent tools with a human expert in the loop. With LLM a senior dev can increase his output for simple tasks many fold. The senior dev can also review if the llm made a mistake or not, the jeets just ship it. Then why would you hire a team of jeets that ends up being almost as expensive as a single senior dev?
If AI is good why are you afraid to disclose it?
>>545146928The code solves a business problem and many business problems need contexts that isn't even logged anywhere not even some pdf document. If you want to use an AI you need to give it context and hope it picks the right answer. To evaluate this you still need someone smart and capable as a dev, you can't automate a lot of flows. A lot of things that could be automated were already through scripts / stored procedures. Writing this automation with AI is easier but you should know what you're doing since you try to solve a business problem not a technical one. If you want AI to copy paste an open source app but with a different front end, and maybe some backend adjustments you'll get very far with limited knowledge. That's much easier to do than in the past.
>>545143099At least the AI answers and writes in perfect English. A novel LLM model gives you output in 30 seconds instead of 30 business days.
>>545147646Yeah, about that...>In October 2026, OpenAI and Anthropic tightened restrictions on the use of their models for reverse engineering and for creating free clones of paid or proprietary software.
>>545147706I know that it may be hard for your ego but you start coming to terms with it. It's fine you can call me names etc. if that makes you feel better. But you can't avoid reality.
>>545148257GLM 5.3 has been used in several recomp projects very successfully. Like piracy, this is not something that Western companies really have any control over.
>>545140853Isn't the kernel itself more and more developed by AI ? There's no way to fork the kernel is there ? (maybe with a big, talented team, I don't know anything about coding).
>>545145988>> muh video gamesgay>> no one will have jobsok have it your way. you'll just be robbed and murdered on the street by people who have nothingno sweat off my nuts buddy
>>545140853Use Ai for everything if you want you fucking spic
