It just stays there producing power from sunlight for 30 years. No moving parts, almost zero maintenance.Yet maga cunts will yell frothing at the mouth that is a faggot leftist tranny technology and that they love coal and co2.Is so retarded that is actually hilarious.
>>545155233The jews who sell me oil told me they are really bad and kill birds or something
>>545155233>the right hates them?we do?
>>545155233Americans are butt hurt from taking ESG-DEI up the ass, but there's nothing wrong with solar panels. Coal is based though.
>>545155233It's not the panel, it's you and your stupid Eco-religious bullshit.
>>545155359I LOATHE themp n junctions! perovskites!RARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH!!
They did propaganda against coal, nat gas, oil, etc. because mineral rights and control over energy flows. Solar is a decent cop out but you have to give the reigns to China.
>>545155233They kill all the animals. The animals jump on them and they fry because those black panels are hotter than your stove.
>>545155233STFU fellow Italian
>>545155233I don't hate them but I don't buy the narrative from Big Solar that they are a replacement for nuclear.
>>545155233We don't. Solar power is based since it's local and doesn't give money to shitskins in the middle east.
>>545155233I just hate when they destroy forests for them. Just fucking put them over parking lots and on building roofs.
>>545155233well do the economic analysis you retarded guidocost of producing those solar panels exceeds their product lifespan by 500x
>>545155233because i would rather stick a used plutonium rod straight up your ass
>>545155233The problem is that you're listening to the jews and are opting for the most expensive way, just to raise the national debt. What the fuck is wrong with you to be such a smug fool?
Be all for em if we had any fookin sunlight m8
>>545155233My calculator is solar powered.
>>545155533that's total nonsense you fucking retardthey pay for themselves in 1-3 years
because big oil and big auto paid $$$$ to have the dumb golems keep handing them money instead of getting free energy lol
>>545155567they work just fine in daylight even in the UKyou don't need sunlight
>>545155233Rightoids on average have room temperature IQ.
>>545155533> do the economic analysis Okay, now what?
>>545155433Friendly reminder everyone is making you forget nuclear fission is possible and being studied, which would reduce the costs massively.But that would mean fucking oil barons forever so the Jews will not allow it.
>>545155613Bollocks, you need direct sunlight to charge anything more than a aaa battery, unless you have a field of the bastards
>>545155710>Pulls sale pricesCOSTS, faggot, COSTS. You being a retard is not an arguments.
>>545155784You're completely full of shit. Solar panels work just fine on overcast days.
Solar panels are a great idea at an individual level but trying to generate power on a national scale with them is retarded.If you want to be a hippie and have the sort of energy captain Planet won't hate you for there are better options.
big jew
>>545155233Because it needs batteries.Coal works without batteries.
>>545155853Whatever, fruitloop
>>545155762Fission is cool because they could generate electricity and possibly even create valuable chemicals like helium
>>545155233Because the fossil full industry gives lots of money to right ring media outlets to smear non fossil fuel energy sources.
>>545155798Google is telling me that the divine light of the sun is cheaper than the demonic brimstone of coal.
>>545156075"Levelized cost" is a dodgy measure though. It assumes storage. Obviously the battery buildout cost is very large for running a country off solar.
>>545156075Okay, now tell it to consider the price of batteries so you can utilize your divine fireball 24/7.
>>545155359https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6p2MgDZPA0UMAGAheads, hate whatever trump hates
>>545155380Coal makes some nasty gasses when burned. Like the toxic fumes from jet turbine generators at data centers. They are green tech becasue they kill MAGA voters in red counties. A human leaves a huge carbon footprint. You won!
>>545155661get a load of this nigger loving faggot who chopped his dick off
>>545156075Electricity is a balancing act that requires peaker plants or batteries. Either overbuild the solar and batteries $$$$$ or burn some coal when needed.
>>545156307If you burn it in your backyard, kek
>>545155233>Why the right hates them?It takes power and control away from oil barons.This comic is from 1904!!!!Honestly, oil barons controlling the US government was tolerated because it was US company controlling the US government, but once it becomes changes to foreign nations or companies based in foreign nations then the over reliance on oil starts to become a issue of sovereignty and national security. This problem's been boiling on the back burner for over a century. Imagine we made the switch to solar a decade or 2 ago, how many wars could have been avoided. Even if solar is more expensive, it gives savings in the form of less foreign wars, more national security and sovereignty.
>>545155233Gonna give my truck a few more revs today so your stupid waterworld larping Venice city gains another quarter inch of sea rise
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>>545155457Obamy tried to fund solar research. Trump shut it down China ate our lunch. Biden passed legislation to give work to 40,000 electricians for decades. Cheap power for americans and with new US battery tech it even worked at night. Trump shut it all down and now data centers pour dirty coolung water, exposed to heavy metal cooling components, directly into Texas water supply. The MAGA carnage is exquisite. I hope the Republicans hold power in the midterms. Every time an Iowa resident gets cancer a Republican gets a donation. You won!
>>545155233I've never understood why so many off the grid types hate solar panels and electric vehicles. How can you live off the grid if you rely on the power company for power and the oil companies for transportation?
>>545156307Going to keep my lights on to burn more coal so when the liberal cities go underwater we can castle doctrine their souls from this earth for squatting on our property
>>545156548Retarded tribalism. The left likes solar power so we have to be against it.
>>545156524It would never have competed anyways. With the dollar being the WRC manufacturing was gutted (triffin dilemma)
>>545156515Henry Ford the 33rd degree Freemason would totally fix things.
>>545155233I love em. I want a few kW worth and same for battery storage capacity. Fuck rooftop solar and being plugged into grid. That shit is for megaqueer fagdicks
The right hates anything that doesn't make noise, is not aggressive, doesn't bother anyone.If solar panels had flames coming out of them and they screamed "I hate the antichrist" they'd be all for them
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>>545155233it's for fucking faggotswhy use energy that was created millions of miles away when we can create our own energy right where we live?have fun being dependent on the sun, you know the thing that goes down every day and is covered by clouds and so on
>>545155870Agree with this. Solar is decent if you want to "live off the grid" and are willing to pay higher for independence.>>545155968if you simply have enough energy on-hand anon you could make barrels of oil from literal dirt laying around. Just got to throw enough energy at it to turn hydrogen, oxygen and carbon into what you want.If fusion grants exponentially more energy to throw around than anything we currently have, those with access to such amounts of energy effectively could "make" their own endless oil and associated products.It's just chemistry really.Then you hypothetically could still have endless remaining energy to fleet a swarm of flying roombas that go around pick up the past ~70 years of all the plastic crap, or sequestering muhCO2 out of the atmosphere. The possibilities are endless.If people weren't such niggers we'd be throwing at least a few trillion dollars into R&D internationally.Fusion power is the singularity. Jews don't like it because it also means an entire reorganization of what "elites" could mean for the entire world. Don't really need some banking Jew as your master if you got robots programmed to tend your own vegetable garden and pasture that churns a surplus, and can make 10x the materials you need to maintain it, yourself of throwing electricity and heat at the dirt and metals under your feet, and one cuck in some far off place decides to dig down 4 miles and dole out random rare earth metals he refines with his robot scripts, for free as a hobby since he doesn't have anything else to do.
>>545155233A solar panel is almost useless on its own since it produces variable voltage DC.
>>545155567If they didn't work why does every other cunt have them installed on their roof?
>>545156758This hotel ran on DC in 1888
>>545156700yes batteries exist you know and the tech is getting really goodhave fun being dependent on oil companies and countries that hate you while fucking the climate up for your posterity
Because the other team likes them
>>545156870Regulated DC.
>>545156746But making oil is stupid because there is still so much of it in the ground. Helium or other rare elements are much rarer.
>>545156870You can indeed (sometimes) power flickering lights directly during daytime with a solar panel, the lights will vary in how much light they emit and if it's too sunny they might fry.
>>5451555181 billion percent this. Why not cover the roofs of commercial buildings or build covered structures over parking lots. Residential roofs are fucking retarded. Your roof is kind of important as shit why the fuck would you put something over it.
>>545156985>>545156929true, it was coal powered
>>545156746>sequestering muhCO2 out of the atmospherePlastic crap in landfills is already how we sequester carbon from the atmosphere.
>>545155233Checked.It's not hate; it's the inefficiency.Say a lot of people get their roofs covered in solar and they get a discount or whatever now the power company at least where I live doesn't let you use your own generated power they take it and give you credit towards your bill I've asked an electrician who did this and he said it cost him $13,000 to put it on and the savings won't reach that until he's dead also you must maintain them if you live in a snowy area better brush off that snow also leaves rodents like to borrow under them causing damage to your house and the production is not made in US of certain components. Don't get me started on wind energy
>>545155233I am right wing about as hard core as you get and I have solar on my roof and a few large panels in my back yard to power my shed.
>>545156691yes nazis were working with Freemasons and were masons themselves. world is a stage etc.
>>545156758>solar panel is almost useless on its own sinceNo, you need to plug it into something to do work. Like plug it into a hair dryer or a car or light bulb or anything that uses electricity really.I know you're intentionally pretending to be stupid, but you took it way too far. Way too stupid. Try a little less hard please.
>>545157076Ford tried to end wars. Peace ship.I have political cartoons from then calling Ford a traitor trying to sell more cars.
>>545157056If you're making your own power, why are you still cutting the power company in? Get some batteries.
>>545155233The right doesn't hate solar panels. They hated the scam solyndra in the 2010s selling round panels that sucked while taking taxpayer funds. Solar panels were basically dog whistles for the left trying to destroy american energy industries such as coal in the 2010s as well. Solar shouldn't be a political tool, its just another way to generate energy and has its place in areas it is viable.
>>545157209It depends on the deal if the power company is giving him 1:1 it's way better than batteries.
>>545155233The right has been brainwashed to think it's communist to be independent from oil companys and the state. Try running your generator if fuel is linited by the government. Solar panels and a battery for less than 2k can easily support the daily needs of 2-4 people in emergency situations.
>>545155233I think we hated how our tax money was funneled through Obama's friend's companies that bought cheap panels from China.
>>545157155If you plug you solar panel directly into any of those things it'll most likely not work, it might damage or destroy whatever you plugged in, it might cause a fire and in the unlikely event it does work you will not operate your equipment in a reliable manner, the RPM on your hair dryer will vary for no apparent reason and the stop or burn.
>>545155233>Why the right hates them?maybe the low iq onesit's free energy. just don't sign any agreements with the gov. make it offgrid
>>545157155>>545157375My post also assumed you only try to plug it into DC equipment directly, bypassing any AC to DC transformers, otherwise a fire or fried circuit would be guaranteed.
>>545155488ok, but what about the downsides?>>545155784they can do a 1kWh per hour or 2 in a cloudy day. if you combine that with power magazine, you still can make it somewhat useful
>>545157596But they can't do that during sunny day in December in Gdansk.
>>545155233They shriek and shudder at anything new, especially anything that would supplant the order of things
They're great. Got a big rebate on mine, all paid off and now I only really have an electric bill during winter and August.
>>545157596>1kWh per hourSo... 1kW?
>>545155359You literally had a meltdown over renewables for 10-20 years and let china overtake us while screaming about 1% of the population trying to trans your kids or something.Yes. The right is retarded
I think it's mostly boomers with this mindset. I tried talking to my parents about it, but I was shot down on every point because "coal is just the way to go", completely stuck in the past.
>>545155784This is wrong. I run my entire gaming setup off a battery bank and a 400 watt panel.
>>545157906Think about all the untapped energy in fatties if we could just make them ride stationary bikes and wire that together it's literally free energy.
I want to answer OP, but he's 1 post by this ID.
>>545157924China is letting a large part of their renewable electricity go straight to ground because their grid can't handle the variable production of renewables.They are building more nuclear power than the rest of the world combined, coal and nuclear is what poets China.Hydro whenever it's an option.
>>545158110China is building more wind and solar than the rest of world combined too. Their coal power production went down last year simply because they installed so much wind and solar.
>>545158023I'm surprised gyms aren't already doing this, most of the exercise machines could be easily turned into generators.It'd even make them simpler to use. Like instead of having to add more weights, you'd just move the secondary winding to generate more power.
>>545156152I paid $45k to install solar on my roof + 2 batteries this year and my loan payment is $300/month.My electric bill went from $600/month to $20/month as solar makes up 99% of my electricity use and I just have to pay a fee for being connected to the grid, which is offset by selling power back to the power company when my batteries are full. I'm saving a massive amount of money in a high QoL state.Solar is a literal no brainer if you live anywhere that gets a decent amount of sunlight. Miggers are just luddites who refuse to get over their addiction to middle east wars.
>>545158375Fatty concentration camps Mr. Beast style they pay their debt to society.
>>545155233They are retarded, if you frame it as "muh prep muh offgrid muh not depending on the state" they will flock in buying it
>>545158478what's your residential rate per kWh? like 20 cents?
>>54515861936 cents. Cali is being brutally jewed by datacenter kikes. Solar is the only escape if you want to avoid subsidizing their bullshit.
>>545158702Holy shit, yeah that's a good deal on solar.
>>545155233> China makes the solar panels> 500,000 square miles of their country is uninhabitable desert> doesn't use solar farms to power their own shit> focusing on nuclear instead> desperately wants to destroy US economic and military hedgemony> so they sell them to their global enemy instead> to replace their vital energy infrastructureWow they must be really good. This must be good for us. Sounds like a good deal.
>>545155233Nuclear mogs it but greenies hate that shit for some unknown reason, despite all renewables using elements of single use materials in their manufacturing process, which is killing the planet more so than easily manageable nuclear waste.Especially when spent rods can actually be reused further after a reprocessing step lol.
>>545155233not giving every last penny I have to the oil companies is antisemitic and probably communist as well
>>545155233We have cold fusion
kWh went from $1 at its invention to $0.01 in 1971.Now it's trending back to $1 because the jews fucked the money up.
>>545158804China's building out their own solar at a high rate, idiot>>545158818Even greens are kinda coming around to nuclear now. The real problem is boomer NIMBY voters who are still freaked out about Three Mile Island.
>>545158804China installs more solar than the rest of the world combined. Has been for last 10 years.
>>545158110Nigger here is mistaking covering your bases as abandoning renewables.No American has 1 gun.Why should china have 1 power source? We did it where in America and we're paying dearly for diesel.Sounds like you just don't like china..which is fine. But I'm not going to dismiss reality cause it hurts your feelings.Three gorge damn isn't shut down cause a nuclear plant is built.
>>545155233solar panels are extreme scams, because in reality theyre only diodes. you pay 10k for something that should be free. you are a slave like niggers.
>>545158110 >>My per capitaRofl looks like I'm not the only one offended by your low IQ.>>545158345
>>5451579061kW is a measure of power at any given moment. 1kWh is a measure of how much power you've gathered, so idk, what's your problem. you could have gathered 1kWh per 2 hours, then you would gather 0,5kWh per hour
>>545155233people who own the oil deposits want to sell the oil in those deposits
>>545156981You are myopic. Is there endless oil under your feet right now?No. There likely isn't a single bit of oil under you. And you're beholden to some helium-jew under some false sense of what you constitute as "we" too.Helium is literally in the air at like 4-5ppm. If we can't possibly create it outright, it could be obtained that way.>>545157034Then maybe do a better job, because it's flowing out of jeet rivers far more than is preferable.
>>545155488they also were frequent visitors on the epstein island
>>545157056With Republicans taking kickbacks from data centers the price of power keeps going up. They pay for themselves way faster now.
