What do you mean men build roads and buildings. You don't therefore men don't, and I don't see them doing it so I feel like they don't. They're already there and built, so men aren't building anything. What do you mean maintenance? It's cement so I feel like it's fine. I don't see them cutting grass either, so that's not really a thing. The grass just stops growing, that's why it stays at that height.What do you mean my email job is backed by men maintaining infrastructure? The emails are on the internet, so there's nothing physical to them. I don't feel like there's anything physical going onWhat do you mean per capita? I feel like it's white men. They're annoying and confident, so it's them raping. All the news stories make me feel like it's them. In a way they are violent by existing because their existence hurts my feelings. So it's them What do you mean I need men? I can work a job and go to the grocery store. The food is at the supermarket and I grab it. What about that requires men? What about my house requires men? These things exist, so I don't need men
>>545161623Right in the feels
There seems to be an influx of unironic feminist posters on /pol/ and I can't help but assume that it's indians and nigerians on VPN just like the feminist on Xitter
>>545161623You're not one of those men, you're an unskilled useless NEET. So you need those men the same way she does. You're exactly like her. Get off your high horse, loser.
>>545161732
>>545161878The difference is OP doesn't want to destroy western civilization you fucking tard. The entire reason why we NEET is because we don't want to fund the fall of the west that our own governments are committing. are you fucking retarded?
>>545161934If you think a fetus is a "person" then personhood means literally nothing to you.
>>545162000>Me being a lazy piece of shit is actually AN ACT OF UTTER HEROISM, I'M BUSY SAVING THE WEST MOM!!!!
>>545162016If you think jacking off in another man's asshole is having sex, you are a deluded incel.
TL:DRGo the fuck back to India.
>>545162066the west cannot be saved anymore. im just simply not helping fund it. are you retarded? why cant you read?
>>545161878I'm on 110k USD equiv a year.
>>545162103>random gay sex non sequitur Right-wing men really are all closeted fags who can't stop thinking about buttfucking LMAO
>>545161878You're a jew
>>545162220you're an indian larping as a nazi
>>545162066>You're a fag, this matters more than misandry.Go ahead brother, work non stop til you have cancer all over your body and beg for more hours with no health insurance.>I don't need treatment i need muh beeeaarr
>>545161623Is that supposed to be our looksmatch?
>>545162261If misandry is bad then so is misogyny. If women contributing nothing to society is bad, then so is an incel NEET contributing nothing to society. You accelerationist edgelords say you want to destroy society, then you say women actually ARE destroying society (the thing you want to do!), and then you say you hate them for it. I don't fucking get you retards.
>>545162430>Everyone I'm speaking to on this board are the same type of people.Holy room temperature.
>>545162517Is it a frigid room or a warm room?
>>545162517>everyone is in an echo chamber except for me!!!
>>545161623kek good meme OP
>>545162218The above post was written by a homosexual man
>>545162675It's probably a woman
>>545162584>I'm gonna make this about you. You think you're special, well you're not! ha gotya!You've left your enclosure Normisaurus.
>>545162849>You've left your enclosure Normisaurus.I just died of cringe
>>545161878I'm a NEET. I've never had a job in my life but I built a shed for the oil tank, which doubles as a stick shed, and it has a loft with a window in it. I also built a big greenhouse with a concrete base. I also made a brick wall that it is attached to, and a fence. And I clear sticks up for the local farmer for firewood, and sell trailer loads dirt cheap for my widowed aunt and some friends. I can drive an excavator. I can fix it when it's broke. I can lay foundations down. I'm 30 years old and have been doing subsistence agriculture since I was 9What can a female NEET do? Scroll on tiktok. Maybe draw some pictures best case scenario. We are not the same
>>545162875Okay, good for you. I'm out of cookies. Sorry.
>>545162875>I've never had a job>Proceeds to describe a job they work
>>545162915I'm not looking for cookies. I'm showing you the reality. Even many male NEETs still have practical skills that keep the world turning. Because it is within male nature. Because dealing with the physical world was our play growing up>>545163103It's not a job. It's not a wage. I don't make any money. I live off of autismbux and NEETbux, and the work I do is only for myself so I can save money. It is cutting costs and helping out others
>>545162744Women simp for fags and abortions.
>men are more logical and woman are more about empathy and feelingsbullshit, women are cold calculators and we are the softieswake up retards!
>>545162430This is true and funny, thank you
>>545161623Except you incels aren't doing road maintenance or cutting grass or maintaining internet infrastructure or making sure food gets to the grocery store either. The men who actually maintain civilization and keep the lights on aren't incels, they're either married or regularly fucking the random roasties they pick up at the bar they go to after work. You unemployed and underemployed NEETs aren't productive members of society, you are just worthless parasites. You do even less for society than the women with pointless adult daycare jobs, because at least they blow their money on Starbucks or whatever and keep the economy going.
>>545163933
>>545162430NEET doesn't call himself "empowered" and isn't proposing that the economy grows increasingly NEET as a form of progress. NEET realizes that odds are so stacked against the last recipients of printed fiat that might as well bleed the system that betrayed them until it eventually is forced to self correct.Women with fake tax funded jobs forced in with hiring quotas think this is really going to work. They think Europe is doing great and it's all going to work out as they vote in military aged Islamic men that burn down historical buildings and are warning you well ahead of time they WILL implement Sharia law when they have the numbers.
>>545163933You sound mad because you are stuck playing a game you hate. NEETs already beat the game, so you're mad that you're still jumping hurdles and being timed for it.
>>545164201I love playing the game. I have a great life. I work from home doing an easy job for $75/hr that allows me to shitpost on 4chan while I wait on the computer to finish doing something for me in the background. In a few hours I'm going to meet up with my friends for some drinks and fun pre- Halloween weekend. Then after that I'm going to have amazing sex with a hot girl 18 years younger than me.What makes me mad is how you whiny incel losers shit up my entire fucking internet with your pathetic woe is me bullshit. Every random youtube video or meme on instagram has a comment section full of you failures at life complaining about women even though things have never been easier or better for average normal guys than they are right now.Your life doesn't suck because there's something wrong with women or society or the economy or the modern world. Your life sucks because YOU suck.Sucks to suck, git gud losers.
>>545164738doesn't the existence of jobs like yours validate one of the central tenets of neetdom, i.e. that the modern world is bullshit?
>>545164738If gud means fornication under carnal knowledge and drinking $20 shots then you are a king.
>>545161623Accurate
>>545165059No, because the things I do are very important and very valuable for the company I work for (they could be paying me 2x as much and it would still be worth it to them). And there aren't many people in the world who would actually be able to do this job.
>>545165105It's better than being an uptight, socially inhibited loser with no friends and no bitches like you.
>>545165447lolwut.>the things I do are very important and very valuable for the company I work for>545164738>an easy job for $75/hr that allows me to shitpost on 4chan while I wait on the computer to finish doing something for me in the background
>>545165565a lot of times the most powerful and important people in the world are basically getting paid just to make a handful of decisions a day
I've seen women arguing that their communications consultancy job with the government was worth more than some guy fixing the electrical grid because they are paid more and work fewer hours for it.
>>545163933I work for a utilities company doing e-mail bullshit at the office.These guys are all being exploited lol. They're either too dumb to see it or they're 50+ years old and completely burned out - nobody is lined up to replace them.
>>545161934More like a stronger person not allowing a weaker person to feed off of and literally inhabit and alter her body. But, hey, just advertise that you don't understand consent. It makes it easy to know who the idiots are
>>545166978this comment will be received well
>>545162103Seems like you think a lot about men jerking off into each other's assholes. You might want to reflect on that, faggot
>>545162133Put a bullet in your brain, simp faggot.
>>545163933I've seen this exact post in another thread. Is this a bot?
>>545167118You're not???
>>545167118>>545167176Found itIs this one >>545160773
>>545167236That's clearly not the EXACT same post. Therefore, lazy human and not a bot.
>>545167008It rarely is. But I just skip the whole "personhood" argument with forced birth idiots. I don't care if a fetus is a person. It's literally feeding off of a woman without her consent. An abortion is tantamount to self defense.
>>545167436The "right to self defense" argument won't work either because they don't believe women have rights.
>>545167236Bunker trannies and or leftists type like that.
>>545167406Maybe bots are advanced enough that can regurgitate the same notions but in a different way, could be either
>>545167029>gets btfo>h-heh obsessedWhat an anally destroyed fag
>>545167573https://youtu.be/RJOtSWa_CgE
>>545167730lol
>>545167475They also believe a virgin gave birth, more often than not. The anti-abortion crowd isn't exactly smart
>>545163933>The men who actually maintain civilization and keep the lights on aren't incels, they're either married or regularly fuckingYeah this is why birth rates are booming.
>>545162066
>>545162875This is completely true though.
>>545167718Spoken like a retard
>>545162066>I'M BUSY SAVING THE WEST MOM!I think you got it wrong. Incels want the current status quo to collapse in order for a new one to rise. That's why they refuse to partecipate in the system
>be in professional environment>woman says something blatantly wrong about important issue>no one corrects her because it would make her crySuch is life in modernity
>>545161878Genetic fallacy. The poster, even if a neet, is not claiming such men do not exist, the proverbial woman in his argument is.Ironically another folly of women is they cannot divorce an arguments points from their source or vibe, which you have demonstrated here.>t. Dirt poor former construction worker who now does security.
tell that jewess her brother's better and it isnt natural to need glasses at her age, she should get that checked out
>>545168474I didn't get shit wrong. You're just being pedantic.
>>545161623save a chudette,leave a chudette
>>545162066They are kinda right. There are two strategies that should be done at the same time. Tons of men should drop out and crash the economy before demographics are fucked.And men who can make money should put it towards aiding entryism.If one doesn’t work, there’s always the other.Your feminine social shaming argument does not debunk the intuitiveness of the plan.>t. Former construction worker who now does security
>>545168549See >>545168644>Tons of men should drop out and crash the economyThis is what incels advocate for
>>545161878Weird how mad this makes you. Almost like it reveals how retarded you are
>>545168524Nothing you're saying here invalidates what I said, and you're both appealing to an admitted proverbial strawman anyway when we both know that poster hates all women. >>545168644>>545168716This isn't going to happen. It's even less likely than some kind of far-right party coming to power. Because at least those people try to exude some kind of strength and dynamism. No one is going to listen to a bunch of people who openly pride themselves on being jobless sexless losers, and join their little crusade against normal people.
>>545162016There’s an entire logistical and economic argument about how abortion just is not viable long-term, if you want to maintain the living standard that the west currently enjoys. It creates negative incentive structures that lead to broken families, which lead to expensive social problems relative to a shrinking tax base. It is literally just mathematically, not logistical. Unfortunately nobody made this argument. Even though the right is correct when it comes to morals, the logistical argument is inarguably true.But let’s get into the morals. If the priors of your morals depend on a board of people to enforce what you find reasonable, then you are asking for a slippery slope.Either all of human life is sacred or it is not. The idea that it is going to stay where you, a person from a certain time in place with a certain view of what is reasonable, wanted to stay is just illogical and stupid. Once an exception is made, more exceptions will be made on tribalistic grounds.>>545162218Again female vibes based argumentation. Meant to attack social status rather than engaging with the point.
>>545162875Unfortunately the female NEET gets attention and validation from simps and similar subhumans because she has a gooey stinky hole between her legs which a baby could theoretically emerge from (if she doesn't abort it lmao)
>>545168860You don't believe "all human life is sacred." Give me a fucking break.
>>545163933I have literally been on a road crew, worked concrete, and framing and I agree with them on logical grounds.The difference here is that they are not claiming they are strong independent women who need no man, they admit they are neets. So you are trying to make a false equivalence to avoid engaging with the point
>>545165485Why would you want modern friends? Oh wait you're a loser
>>545161843>we're going to turn their women into whores ha! >jewish men all keep marrying the whores >jewish women turn into whores too, but they're ugly didn't work out so well for them
>>545169030>it was actually jewish whores all along
>>545169010You just want everyone to be as miserable as you.
>>545164738The problem is first off that if everybody made as much as you then it would just devalue that job and everything would shift back down in average out. What’s more? Let’s say you were born Chad, or managed to become rich. After a few years, hooking up with different women every night and drinking and doing drugs on the weekends becomes very, very boring and soulless. I know this from personal experience considering I am very good looking. Eventually, you just want one woman to settle down with and have a family with. You will be fucked over over and over and over because nobody has any morals anymore and are even encouraged by media and education to have no morals. And attempting to enforce social standards will get you economically blacklisted. So essentially you just continue hooking up or you are alone, or you have a couple kids with a bitch who divorce rapes you and then you suck a shotgun at age 45. These are honestly the three real options for the average man. Even if you make money.
>>545168860All I see is that everything here is going to shit. The average person would probably vote for the next Hitler here, especially men that work in trades
>>545169118I'm serious though. Modern people are losers, so you have loser friendships, live in a loser town, go to a loser bar or a loser restaurant. You convince yourself you're not a loser because you're spending money. You have no meaningful conversations, ignore your children, and go to your loser job.
>>545168837Almost everything that’s ever happened. Seemed like it wasn’t going to happen until it did. Now that said, let’s say you were right and we have a crystal ball where we see that it does not happen. That’s all the more reason to just drop out of society and burn it all down if you’re being fucked over.
>>545163933Slow down turbo, not all of us are neets.
The bootlicking for the sake of being 'macho' on this thread is sad. The need to defend your position so angrily points that your thought process isn't 100% correct. This mentality is why everything gets worse. NEETs do contribute to the economy: they get drunkBut that doesn't matter.The issue is you guys setup 5g towers and not question your boss about it. It's just work, get money relax then become a woman's serf, get into debt etc. You're extremely predictable on the marketYou dont invent new shit,you are just a maverick on what's already existing.And if anyone asks you to think harder on your life, your knee jerk is to call that person an arrogant poofta. This just let's them know you're 90iq max.All it is is anger, insult, 'you're a fag' repeat
>>545169225And I'm serious. You want everyone to be as miserable as you.
>>545161934>>545162016Fuck lil feety gon do?
>>545169253Can you convince me you're not a miserable loser without mentioning your money spending?
>>545169237You're literally just here fishing for validation for being lazy. No one's stopping you from being a NEET. But you also want to feel like you're being heroic and productive while doing so, which is why you're framing yourself as some rebel. If you actually cared about changing society, you'd be actively involved and working toward changing society. But you're not. You're just lazy. And you know it.
>>545168955This is a typical liberal argument where you start tacking on arbitrary qualifiers to what sacred means. (I.e. we must give them infinity welfare or you can’t claim to be pro life, chuddy!) I am saying you do not use the state to kill humans except in self defense. This is an important standard because if you get rid of it, tribalism spirals fast.The idea that policy will stay where you arbitrarily find reasonable is retarded.
>>545169384You vote with your wallet. Am I supposed to spend more than you to convince you you're miserable? Haha
you incel fucks, men who keep the world going are very sought after by whamenit's just you incels who SUCK big time!!! for.... for... not being promiscuous enough!!!I bet all your crotches are not even ridden with 5 different types of STDs hahaha losers
>>545169384Genetic fallacy. Especially considering I am not a NEET. I’ve worked construction jobs for like 15 years until I recently got into security like five years ago. I just hate the current regime and I agree that dropping out can be a good strategy towards ending it. I’m using the opposite strategy though. Trying to make as much money as possible to fund causes and entryism. Both should be used at the same time depending on one’s ability.But like I said, you have no argument, unless I am a neet who is coping. If I am not, then you have to come up with an argument to counter mine and it seems like you cannot
>>545169415>I am saying you do not use the state to kill humans except in self defense. I am saying, given the board you're on and the side you're choosing on this issue, there is a 99% chance you don't actually believe this.>The idea that policy will stay where you arbitrarily find reasonable is retarded.Every single policy decision, every single moral line in the sand, is arbitrary as far as the universe is concerned. Contrary to what you may believe, some objective omnipotent lawmaker did not come down to a bunch of ancient Jews on a mountain and tell them what's up. Morality is what humans decide it is. Yes, this is a horrifying amount of responsibility.
>>545169532>I just hate the current regimeDo you mean trumpism or USA in general?
>>545169606It's very nice the world gave people with the inability to understand philosophy the ability to vote, and it's free! Haha
>>545169658Oh, so voting matters now? Haha
>>545169676Well it certainly doesn't when there's so many losers that don't understand things like basic morality does it? And those same people are in charge of running a consumption economy. Oh and then when you talk with them they run away.
>>545165447You're a very brave boy
>>545169734Oh, I didn't know YOU figured out morality. That thing humans have been arguing over for literally thousands of years. Fascinating.
>>545168860Alright smartass, what if you are a crack baby thrown in the dumpster? They care so much about the development of the fetus that they throw out the baby with the bathwater. It might be killing babies just like viruses might be life. We don't know, but I for sure know life isn't sacred if you can be born with ass cancer or caught in the crossfires of kikes and mudslimes. Who am I kidding? None of you faggots have the brain power to entertain hypothetical shituations, you'd rather read trv stories about your particular skydaddy and eat glue.
>>545169847Yeah it's not too difficult, you'd actually have to try and not understand it in order to even justify modern society
>>545165485>ALL VALUE IN LIFE COMES FROM SOCIAL STATUSFoidbrain alert, I repeat, foidbrain alert!
>>545161623Women aren't people dudeNever were never will beThis isn't revolutionary
>>545169904No one on this board, left or right, likes modern society.
>>545169606As to your final point, there is some truth to this. However there is a non arbitrary standard when it comes to survival and prosperity for the largest amount at the societal level and in youre case I was bringing self interest and for that of your descendants into it. One could argue whether that is a good goal, I suppose, but I’d say enough people will agree. The main issue is they are on a distracted purity spiral of enlightenment principles and don’t even understand that survival conditions aren’t being met
>>545169947I thought we were talking about morality
>>545169606But for the first point. I actually do largely believe that someone shouldn’t be killed except self defense. Deportation is another matter completely however. Unless it becomes a societal us or them. At which point survival trumps all else. If you are so moral and empathetic that you let yourself die out, your morals and ideas die out with you and the total amount of morals and empathy in the world drops and you did a net evil.
>>545169615He means global elite jewish pedophiles you hooknosed faggot
>>545170080They already admitted they don't know what morality is
>>545161732>that picI'm so, so tired, bros.
>>545169615I mean neocons and neolibs. They pretend to be in opposition but they work symbiotically towards gynocracy and the extinction of white people.If I were to describe myself in a few words I would say I am a paleoconservative with some center left interventionist economic views.
>>545169676>>545169734Once it’s time to vote it’s too late. Infiltrating the think tanks and lobby groups that set policy is how Jews and the left did it in the 20th centuryAnd they had less of the population than we do
>>545170083Why ar you so angury
>>545170153Amoral populist policy throwing out buoys to keep their ship from hitting the bottom. Whatever they want amoral retard consumers they got it. Haha
>>545169866This gets into the problem of evil/epicurean paradox. There are answers for it you can find online but I don’t feel like relitigating it as I’ve typed essays on this exact topic thousands of times and the answer for it is kinda lengthy
>>545161878>C-can I have sex yet?
>>545169974I don't agree with the notion that society's main organizing principle should be human survival at the expense of whatever else. This gets into a circular position where the point of existing is to exist. And I wouldn't take for granted that the majority of people in the West would take your side over mine at this point.
>>545170372Oh good the meaning of life from an amoral consumer pov. Is it... going to the bar? Haha
>>545170080You may be alright, but a ton of people talking about the "sanctity of human life" on here are 5 seconds away from masturbating to total nigger death and Shoah 2.
>>545170440Strawman
>>545170272I don’t really understand the point you are making here. I could deeply get into why I find both of those groups to be destructive and immoral and I could point to times societies did better without these policies, including our own before they were implemented.Are you trying to claim that I’m a trump supporter who is trying to disavow him last second or something? Because I personally have been saying exactly what I’m saying now for a few years. And I’ve been against trump for awhile for specific illiberal reasons
>>545170514I'm simply stating modern society was constructed around amoral policy in order to exist
>>545170199>Infiltrating the think tanks and lobby groups that set policy is how Jews and the left did it in the 20th centuryYeah and how are you going to do that? Jews were capable of doing that thanks to their education and positions of power. If you want intellectuals to infiltrate a group you need to have intellectuals in the first place. That's the problem with a movement that reject intellectualism
>>545170514>I don’t really understand the point you are making here.Don't worry, he doesn't either.
yt foids are so ferociously in support of abortion because dual mating strategy requires infanticide. Their support for it is negatively correlated with their own perceived abilities to secure a wealthy high IQ white Chad’s commitment.
>>545170595Jews are definitely not smart, they're just gatekeepers
>>545170440Humans are tribal. If I see enough non whites doing negative things to us or wishing harm on us, sometimes I will get riled up too. But I am arguing from a third party perspective as much as possible here
>>545170602>I don't understandWoman spotted
>>545170372I see it as the basic building block towards anything else. Especially considering if you don’t reproduce, society becomes a human farm that extracts ridiculously from the younger generation to keep some boomers carnival cruises going a few more years
>>545170565We probably agree then honestly
>>545170735Oh yes I wasn't trying to disagree with you, i was actually agreeing. Weird
>>545170716If you take the position that we exist to keep on existing, then reality itself becomes a farm
>>545170834What's stage 1 look like above foid materialism, how's that whole philosophy thing working out
>>545170654And that's why they got power. Pushing your peers into pursuing higher education and consolidating that power by tribalism. I find utterly ridicule when chuds talk about some fuzzy "aryan spirit" concept, as if white people had some ineherent value just for being white. That's not how it works, you need to work hard in order to gain your worth and then fight to mantain it. Despite believing to be "chosen" Jews still put a lot of effort into being high status people. And of course there is a lot of nepotism, I'm not denying that. But chuds should start imitating them if they want some relevance
>>545170975Actually white people are virtuous without jewish institutions. They've never known anything but institutional paracitism you know
>>545170595you make as much monry as possible while living below your means and work towards a greater good. there are people doing this as we speak. and you fund causes if you are not in the right career field. basically just dont be a boomer and also hide yiur power level while rising.50% of republican staff offices are now pro white israel critical zoomers and thats official stats.>>545170372last ly, and then i have to leave, is that people today dont realize how great society can be.i grew up in a small religious community and everyone was truly happy in a way i just dont see in the modern world and the horror stories that both neocons tell about new deal economics and the progressives tell about traditional societies are total lies.in the past you gave up certain short term freedoms for long term freedom and happiness. now that society has shifted to social and economic short termism everyone is miserable. to the point i know 30 people who have died deaths of despair. cities will always have problems but it can be a lot better.
You need to respect women
>>545167436This. The 2 year old baby's mother did not consent to feeding it or providing for it economically, it is raping her.
>>545171288>i grew up in a small religious community and everyone was truly happyI grew up in a small religious community and everyone was retarded and it sucked
>>545171359>I want to be a man legally>respect meThat's not how it works
>>545171397I grew up in a society and everyone was a guy that was relaxed
>>545171571did someone say society
>>545163933>maintaining internet infrastructureYo. I did this for 10 years. Underpaid, constant study and certifications, suicide hours, no prestige, thankless job.
>>545172021Shit's going to fall apart yo, I wonder if it was a mistake throwing so many women into the workforce
