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I was watching some youtube clip talking about healthcare in Florida, especially Putnam county (80% white and deep Red).
>9 docs to 10,000 residents
>thousands kicked off medicare
>insurance companies wringing the general fuck out of Floridians

At the end there was a town hall with state rep. Angie Nixon, where most of the residents were basically begging for "communism" if it meant they could afford their next cancer treatment and not die in two months.

..then it hit me. If Trump passed medicare-for-all, the Democratic Party would be done, forever. He and MAGA would be unassailable for the forseeable future. He did everything centrist Dems have been promising and not delivering for decades, and eveything progressives/leftists never had the numbers to do. And he could actually do it with sheer brute force as his party/cult's leader, and a couple of Democratic defectors (I honestly don't think anyone else could).

That terrified me. MAGA would have a blank check for the other 99% of retarded and immoral shit they do with just this one, single achievement.
I actually felt relieved that this would NEVER happen. Not only because he doesn't give a shit about anyone else, but there is too much money tied into it from his peers/class. The only reason he's losing voters is that they're suffering from his policies, but they would happily go back to supporting most of them if he wasn't literally killing them.
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Whites always vote against their own interests.

>bailouts for billionaires and Israel. That's so American! USA!
>health care for all? That's COMMUNISM
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>>545177543
>>545177654
america has had obama care for a long time now, this is what the left wanted
trump tried to get rid of obamacare and mccain petulantly helped the democrats keep it in place
well, thanks democrats, fucking kikes
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Basically, what if we had someone that was on the same level of fuckshit Trump and his merry crew of bandi- cabinet members are on but NOT grossly incompetent and short-sighted. Tapped into all of the normal culture war shit and insecurity, but actually delivered on energy prices, affordable housing, free healthcare, etc?

What if the next person who aims for the lowest commom denominator and runs on grievance politics actually understands this?

Our current education system and corporate media are not in any condition to stop this...

Link:
https://youtu.be/-wRu0rJ1DUY
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>>545177654
>>health care for all? That's COMMUNISM
that's right! this is why we need to get rid of social security and medicate!
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>>545177927
Yeah good luck with the boomers actually wanting to get rid of it
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>>545177732
Obamacare is fucking garbage. Just expand medicare
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>>545177543
good thing miggers are fucking retarded and would rather spend money on wars for israel than healthcare and infrastructure.
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>>545177543
Shut the fuck up chatgpt. If I wanted your hackneyed opinions I'd ask.
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>>545177732
ACA was a stepping stone. It's main thrust waa expansion of coverage for many who didn't have it (children, students, underworked, too expensive) and those getting fucked by chronic/pre-existing conditions (this was a big deal, many people would get dropped or lose coverage because of their sudden illness).

The next step was lowering the cost, by putting in a single-payer option - that would expand the taxpayer base, help negotiate prices, and enable more Americans to get preventive medicine.
Lieberman, the indie kike caucusing with Dems at the time, killed that optiom on arrival.

McCain stopped Trump from implementimg the "concepts of a plan" shit he still has as his healthcare policy for over 10 years. Or have you seen it??
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Trump SAID he was gonna repeal and replace Obamacare. Well he repealed most of it, and now he's gonna replace it any day now...
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>>545177732
>what the left wanted
Obamacare was the compromise that Obama made with the centrist Dems because America has no real left. I have not met a single leftist who thinks Obamacare is good. Leftists want medicare for all.
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>>545177543
We don't need Medicare for all, what we need is Medicare prices for all. Medicare or whoever administers it should negotiate the price of all procedures and act as middleman between the consumer and the provider. Medicare pays only a fraction of the cost most normal people have to pay. If we all paid the Medicare price shit would be sweet.

One idea I had that kind of fits your idea is dealing with all the lead pipes towns like Flint and others are too poor to fix. Trump should do a massive campaign to clean up the nations pipes and get them all up to spec
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>>545178197
>chatgpt
>clearly phone posting
Gen Z is cooked.
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>>545178357
he's too busy being fighting for Israel
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>>545178357
There are a lot of ways he could win as an across-the-political-spectrum populist, especially since he gives zero fucks about the deficit/spending. But ge really doesn't give a shit for anything that doesn't directly stroke his ego.

But yes, one of the benefits of medicare would be price controls/government negotiating for lower prices. There is too much incentive profit in our current healthcare system, and it needs to be approached as a service like police, roads, postal, etc.



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