I honestly can't understand why people think it's a good idea for women to vote
>>545196122>Roasties
Because you cannot just discard opinions and concerns of half of your population without any good reason for it.
>>545196186>without any good reason for itBefore women were allowed to vote, a man's vote represented the interests of his family which in turn gave the nuclear family a legitimate say in politics. Now that women can vote, the nuclear family has necessarily deteriorated. Now we're left in a nightmare state where it barely even meaningfully exists.
>>545196284If your family is being held together by only one member's right to vote, then it was a sht family to begin with.
>>545196122Normalfaggots don’t actually believe in anything. Whether they think it’s a good or bad idea could not be a less relevant question because they’ve never considered it at all. It’s what’s normal so it’s what’s good. You will never understand mass psychology until you get this through your head.
>>545196322It's not just about an individuals family but the construct of the nuclear family itself holding political influence. Just look outside in America today to see the consequences of that construct no longer having any real sway.
>>545196122People think? News to me
>>545196322How is this an argument against men being the sole voter in a household? Shit families will exist with or without female voting.
>>545196347I’ve found this to be pretty much completely true
>>545196411Anon is claiming that this somehow held families together. I am not sure what he is trying to say exactly.
>>545196411It’s not. It’s a line that sounded like it was a totally ebin pwn of you to the Russian normalfag, so he never thought any further about it.
>>545196465That stripping the nuclear family of its political influence necessarily led to a world where that construct itself deteriorated - which has only led to a more nihilistic and bleak reality for everyone.
>>545196186Yes, I can.And jews do as well.
The state, even without being aware of it, is always trying to find ways to reach into and control the populace. Giving women the vote probably appealed to early 20th century politicians as being easily captured and controlled, easy to lead with propaganda, much less violent and revolutionary than the male vote. And generally, even without realizing it, the state as the "knight in shining armor" seeks any opportunity to interfere with the affairs of its subjects, because it all comes down to power. I think that early 20th century politicians were riding high on a sense of infallibility and moral superiority and that by giving women the vote they earned a bunch of good boy points that their great great grandchildren will have to pay for.
>>545196547Why would this destroy the political influence of a family? If anything, each family has just doubled its voting power potentally.
>>545196322The family was held together by the man's legal dominion over wife and children and the lack of divorce laws or welfare or employment prospects for women. Which the state got rid of all those.
>>545196481>>545196465The point still stands that a male-led household has a more firm standing in the community by virtue of contribution whereas a female running shit means she wasn't a great wife, partner or whatever or there would be an actual household leader aka a guy running shit.All of this just means women make poor decisions, shouldnt be allowed to vote, and a man running the home has a legitimate say in societal affairs.Only a female would disagree, and not even all females at that. My own wife 100% agrees with me that women are too emotionally volatile, prone to accidents, weaker and arguably dumber than the average guy. Not voting material, and a home without a stable husband is a detriment to society and thusly should not be given voting representation.
They gave the women the vote at around the time of the big communist revolutions, ww1, and labor movements. They probably felt that women would be a much easier to control electorate than men.
>>545196186>half your populationNigger, we don’t let children vote nor do we care about their stupid opinions.
>>545196636You know that men voted Hitler into power in Germany, right? Does that sound like a stable rational choice?
>>545196626Because the nuclear family is no longer voting as a single unit and in many cases husband and wife are actually poised to vote against each other's apparent respective interests because the media plays up gender war narratives constantly.
>>545196122It's been 26 years and I have the necromancer death screams ingrained in my mind.
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>>545196717you actually do have a higher cance of removing womens voting rights than you do scoring a gf
>>545196564That’s because the state is an egregore entity that promotes its own survival once the system becomes complex enough. See: ISAIF.
>>545196746Considering the state of Germany? Yes. Most people are fantastically unaware that the original antifa spent most of its time attacking non-Nazi liberals as enablers.
>>545196186>without any good reasonWe have a century of good reason for it.
>>545196746It does actually. Germany prospered after he was voted in. Go read some of the actual accounts of people living there. Everyone had a job, purpose, homes, food, good lives. Prior? Weimar Germany was a giant hostel for foreign perverts.
>>545196122Nah, the real question is why incels are allowed to vote. Women drive the economy and control households. Meanwhile incels are net negative on society with their bad genes and mentall illness and so forth. Perhaps incels and chuds should be ground up into fertilizer and cattle feed like useless male baby chicks are.Also, whites voting should be banned since they aren't going to exist anymore very soon.Then again, for an ideal society all males should be put into concentration work camps starting around age 8-12 since men cause like 98 percent of crime and can't handle being around women and children without getting carried away with their urges for raping and murdering.This way men can concentrate on doing masculine things without being distracted by females in yoga pants. A small number of good looking and well-behaved Chads can be let out of the camp occasionally for decoration, parties, and breeding purposes.
>>545196750Anon, you cannot just ignore concerns of people in the name of some artificial unity. or you can, but up to a certain point. Say, women all across America think that divorce laws are way too strict and need to be changed. Their husbands think otherwise and vote against it. This is not fixing or even addressing the situation, the concerns of women will sill remain, but will manifest themselves through different means.
>>545196122Taxation without representation. You either believe in it or you don't
>>545197008Do you feel better now that you got that out of your system?
>>545196122It's an agreed-upon lie. We all know it's nonsense and a terrible idea, even woomers themselves know it (better than anyone), but that feels a little uncomfy to address, so we pretend not to notice as the pillars holding up civilization rot out from under us.
>>545196122This is the best meme I've seen in awhile.
Most of the things we blame on Jews, are actually just consequences of women voting and having effectively the deciding 60% of every single issue.Look around the west. Why do the same things plague Jew'd nations as non Jew'd ones? Because women vote, and dictate national policy. That's it. They're retarded globalist marxists, it's in their nature. First one to figure this out wins.
>>545196962>>545196994I have to be honest, I allowed myself to be a bit dishonest for the sake of proving a point. Statistically in Protestant areas more women in Weimar Germany voted for the Nazis than men. In Catholic parts it was vice versa. So, women played a crucial role in bringing Nazis to power. I was just trying to show you how easy it is to generalize things according to your liking, when in reality even voting patterns are more nuanced than "Men vote Hitler, Women vote Trotsky". It is more complicated than that.
>>545197008Show hands so I can have a giggle
>>545197253>I lied to try and push my ideasvery womanly and jewish of youSomething you will never be able to undermine is the will of the people, which manifests in necessary change. Hitler's Germany was a necessary change, like it or not. It didn't just happen for no reason.
>>545197069I don't believe in taxation
>>545197245But the only people who would give rights to jews, give the vote to women, invade the south to free the slaves and then NOT EVEN SEND THEM TO AFRICA, are braindead idiots. We have had a ruling class of braindead idiots for at least a century and a half. What did they think would happen from the Civil War? Millions of blacks would just "integrate" into American society?It is a well known effect of wealth. The wealthier they are, the more insulated they become from reality, and the stupider they become. These people have no understanding of life.
People always complain about what nazi germany did, but they never stop to ask why they did it. “.because they hated Jews” yeah I know, but do you know why they hated those lil fucking Kuntz?
>>545197337I lied to show you how inconsistent your line of reasoning is.>women always vote liberal>except for that case when they literally voted for Hitler>but that doesn't count cause its uncomfortable and does not fit the narrativeYou are not seeking the truth, you just want to hear things that confirm your opinion. While facts don't matter, since they can hurt feelings. If anything, you are the one acting womanly here.
>>545197465Media will never answer that because they are complicit in the crimes.>>545197473>I liedsay no more
>>545197419Me neither, but you can't maintain our military on tariffs. (Which are a form of taxation)
>>545197245This
>>545197042Women have always had the option to slowly poison their abusive husbands so the idea divorce is essential to their well-being is a modern fabrication
>>545196122>I honestly can't understand why people think it's a good idea to vote
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>>545196564>The stateIs a religious construct that does not exist in observable reality.
>>545196122Jews think it's a good idea, to ruin our beautiful countries. Like it or not, Jews run the world so they gave women the right to vote, only in white countries of course
Jews are master manipulators, but to control women they don't even have to try that hard, women are that easy. It's much easier to control an overgrown adolescent woman with no responsibilities, than it is to control a strong, responsible man who is the head of his household
>>545196709This map is wrong,Italy gave women voting power in 1947 and i am pretty sure also the other years are wrong
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>>545196186Nigger there's a reason, and a damn good reason at that, that our ancestors kept women's freedoms to a bare minimum. Wiser men than you and I have all had harsh but valid criticisms of women and their nature dating back to fucking ancient times. Go read Socrates
>>545196122IT'S ANOTHER UGLY BROWN KIKEBOT FOIDSLOP THREAD
>>545200250A thing or two have changed since Socrates, anon.
>>545197465You guys aren't nazis. You aren't even remotely pro white. You are more like the christians that snitched them out. Bunch of little bootlicking dysgenic rats. You'd all get the long knives if Hitler had a say.
>>545200940the nazis rounded up faggots, communists, gypsies and (you) and it just so happened that 96% of them were kike rats like you
>>545196840>t.seething femcelJust got back from the gym where sluts eye-fuck me. The only reason I don’t fuck the gym girls is because I don’t want a girlfriend, but just a cum and dump, which will be awkward with people who frequent the same spots.
>>545201010>faggotsI think Hitler would include christian mutts, who invoke the name of Socrates and Plato to justify enslaving their white women population with religion, as faggots. Your bones would go in the Freemason museum. The plaque would say "This man was under 6 feet tall and brown, so he sold his soul to Yahweh for pussy"
>>545196122Nothing wrong with mila kunis in that picture, except being a jew.
>>545201262>enslavementI don’t think there’s a single point in history where women were treated worse than men. ‘Enslavement’ for women is basically just not being married to the state. It’s apparently being under the rule of her family and the families being the units which are managed under the state. Remember that most women are rich due to a man they divorce raped or a father they inherited from. First ladies and Queens come into power because they married some man who was the actual ruler. Thing about women is, they can be smart, and they can be strong. But they can’t be smarter or stronger than a man who takes his job just as seriously, because there is a biological cap on their brain and body.Otherwise nothing would have stopped a group of women building a boat and taking over some shit hole, raping all the men and starting a kingdom.
>>545196322>Waah I want to vote to feel as important as men!But you're not you fucking whore.
>>545202265You say "the state", but you do not believe in a separation of church and state or else your priority would be to reform your democracy and not just enslave women so they'll stop talking about what a shitshow it has become. And that is what you are trying to do, because you are faggot cowards.
>>545196186yeah who can forget the might of the Romanov Empire and its successor Soviet Union, a might which came from a democratic sampling of its whole population at every crossroads
>>545196186yes i can
>>545196122I CAST FIREWALL