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How were the neocons any worse than Trump and MAGA, or were all that bad at all?

I just turned 28, so I was a kid in the 2000s and barely remember what politics was like back then. There’s all this talk of how “neocons” like Bush, Cheney, etc. were allegedly pure evil and that America needs to be purged of anything “neocon.” But how were they really all that worse than what America has now with Trump? The 2000s seemed incredibly blissful compared to today. I get that people were upset about the Iraq War but was that really the fault of the neocons or just typical American imperialism?

Neocons were smart. MAGAts are stupid. Smart is objectively preferable to stupid.

Also, the “Straussian cabal” doesn’t exist, but if it did, so what? Leo Strauss was actually quite based. He was very pro-traditionalism and endlessly called out the moral relativism and lack of virtue in politics which lead to the degeneracy we see today. He also supported fascism originally on the basis it was a “return to Rome” (wanted to join the Nazis but couldn’t because he was Jewish) and even called out Carl Schmitt for not being anti-liberal and reactionary enough. Wouldn’t we support “Straussians” in politics?
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*sharts*
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>BRING BACK THE NEOCONS
I’d rather have America get hit by an astroid.
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>>545223082
>another retarded TDS thread made by a memeflag kike that won't reply to the thread again
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>>545223082
>Wouldn’t we support “Straussians” in politics?

West Coast Straussians like the Claremont boys, yes. Because they’re America First. East Coast Straussians are Israel First birdbrains like Bill Kristol and his teacher Harvey Mansfield.
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I have to accept the neocons paved the way for Trump and more importantly the surveillance state. If you can get guys that won’t lose wars back, good luck, but they retired, died, or got fired by pee-legs-breast
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>>545223082
Never. I'd rather America balkanize.
I'd even take Russia China winning for the next century over the return of the neocons.
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Neoconservatives are the most evil people in American politics.

The crux of neocon ideology is Jewish supremacy and the belief that America must dominate the world. The godfather of neoconservatism Leo Strauss taught that political elites should see themselves as philosopher kings and lie to the vulgar masses of people in order to keep the masses in-check. When philosophers aren’t ruling overtly, they should rule covertly.

Strauss' student Paul Wolfowitz came up with the Wolfowitz Doctrine, which called for massive military spending and preemptive invasions of foreign nations hostile to America. This doctrine was revived by neocons first with Clean Break, which called for a U.S. invasion of Iraq as early as 1999 under the name “Operation Desert Crossing," and then with Bill Kristol and Robert Kagan's Project for the New American Century, which specifically called for a “NEW PEARL HARBOR” to justify said policies. Bill and his father Irving Kristol were die-hard followers of Strauss and sought to implement his thought any way they could. The Straussian cabal is very real and has been carefully manipulating American politics from the Nixon era onward.

POWER OF NIGHTMARES
https://youtube.com/watch?v=jxBbw13Y3Gc

A VERY HEAVY AGENDA (PNAC + 9/11)
https://www.bitchute.com/video/mbaAPILY8XmM/

Neocon analysis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Oh6DmjQaho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NNEkcfxxHU

Wolfowitz = Jewish supremacist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxz06SwfnlU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jlv4YRKnHc

Neocons are satanic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNYidsuhaKY

Neocon origins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0C157Wmm6E

Zionist Jew YouTuber: "Claiming Jews were behind Iraq War is 'BLOOD LIBEL.'"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUA2Sy3jAZE&t=6013s
(1:40:13)

>"oy vey goyim, let us lie and deceive the public and give us the oil and let us establish a rothschild bank"
They aren't even making an effort to hide it anymore.

Total neocon death.
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>>545223082
lol your complaints about Trump are basically because they got him on the team for Iran.
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>>545224015
Yes. Trump’s biggest issue was allowing neocons into his administration. They are blackmailing him into war.
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>>545224010
sure they are
but they werent retarded enough to start a war against Iran
Trump needs to be impeached and disposed
its the only way to save this situation
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>>545224147
Trump was never a neocon. The people AROUND him need to be rounded up and arrested along with the surviving neocons from GWB’s administration.
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>>545224370
Trump makes the decision, noone else
get this cocksucker out of there
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>>545224663
He’s clearly being blackmailed.
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>>545223082
MAGA has become the New NEOCONS, Who the fuck are you thinking is running this administration?
Neocons love the Jews, they are 60% evangelical Christian nationalists 20% orthodox Christians, 10% right-wing Catholics, and others are just cranky ass old retarded boomers that fried their brains years ago and have no families or family that wants to be around them.
Christian nationalists have been running the show here only the white nationalists are realizing who's pulling who's strings and are abandoning ship. At least the true white-nationalists.
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>>545223082
Trump is worse because he's legitimately stupid.
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>>545223414
stfu miga kike
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>>545223082
I’ll take Dems over that
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>>545223607
>disciples of Lincoln-worshipper Harry (((Jaffa)))
I think the fuck not.
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>>545224783
that doesnt make it any better
that makes it even worse
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>>545224783
Riiiiiiight
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>>545223082
Honestly, the neocons were shit, but they only worried about lining their own pockets and not trying to destroy the country in the process. I really don't give a fuck about the slaves who died on 9/11.
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>>545223082
The left went batshit insane during those years and set the ugly stage for a lot of what we have now. It was an incubation of the incredibly divisive identity politics. It's there naturally now and won't ever go away, but they were pushing for cracks in civility back then hard. I lost some old friends back then. They went insane. And now, two decades on, they're covered in scribble tattoos that look like shit, have embarrassing, often bisexual pasts and are just generally shit people. Your young twenties something liberal or progressive of the early 2000s is a husk of a human being with trash-assed kids who are blue haired hateful freaks.

I wouldn't want to go back. As someone on the right, all I did back then was defend the very liberal Bush against all of the hateful lies coming from the left. We could never actually get around to reality. I didn't like that Bush expanded welfare in the biggest way since LBJ with Medicare Part D. Could never get around to having that conversation. It was a decade marked by increasingly unhinged leftist lies. Sure, Bush and the Jewish led Neocons were evil. Could we ever have that conversation? Nope. Those words were verbotin.
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>>545223082
Hell no
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>>545224895
Trump is NOT an ideological Zionist. The people around him are.

>>545224902
False. Trump has always been anti-establishment.
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>>545226012
How exactly did the left go “insane” during the 2000s?



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