I mean, even the Left can agree with this statement. It would ensure fairness and equality across all elections, and having no disputes at all.
>>545224542I agree, but then I also think you should be able to buy crates of guns on a whim.
>>545224542>>545224750Meaning it should be harder to vote than buy a gun. But hey, buying a gun can be a vote of a sort.
>>545224542hell yeah, i wish i could just buy guns in the mail and have them delivered to my doorstep.
>>545224750Even NERF Dart Guns?
nobody should vote. it's a bad system period.
>>545224542You realize you need to show an ID and do a background check to buy a gun, right?
>>545225230Shhh...
>>545224542voting should be way easier than buying a gun currently isso should buying a gun really
>>545225101You can already do that.
>>545225323Then do it now. You would probably have more than enough to defend yourself from the average soiboi.
>>545225090You can, get a C&R license it's easy
>>545224542Registering to vote already requires lots of identity verification, similar to buying a gun. What miggers are wanting to do with this new voter ID shit would be like requiring someone to present a specific ID they obtained at an additional cost in order to prove their identity if they wanted to ever touch that gun. Fuck that and anyone who wants it
>>545224542It's significantly easier to vote than to buy a gun.
>>545225849buy a crate of NERF dart guns? I don't want NERF dart guns.Buying the real ones is not as easy.
>>545226166The point is being of equal effort.
>>545224542There should defiantly be some kind of competency test for voting.
>>545226269But just one foam dart is enough to protect yourself against a soiboi.
>>545226322Yeah but I'm 99% sure the person who made that meme was implying that it's easier to buy a gun.
>>545226378Incompetent people are still citizens with needs that have to be met, and as long as we have anything that even remotely resembles the current system of government, voting is the way for them to attempt to ensure those needs get met.
>>545226564The right to vote is just as important as the right to own a gun. If there is going to be gun control, then there should be some kind of qualifications for voting.
>>545224542Buying a gun should be as easy as voting.
>>545224542I don’t think you leftists know how you buy a gun.
>>545225230That's the meme, retard. Try to keep up. Holy shit
>>545224542You should present a proof of citizenship when you vote.
>>545226638we don't restrict incompetent people from buying a gun though
>>545227163Depends on the state Alabama – Bars anyone “of unsound mind” (including those found incompetent, mentally ill, or lacking capacity) from owning or possessing a firearm unless rights are restored National Conference of State LegislaturesNational Conference of State Legislatures.Alaska – Prohibits firearms for those adjudicated mentally ill/incompetent or involuntarily committed, unless relieved by court National Conference of State LegislaturesNational Conference of State Legislatures.Arizona – Bans firearms for those found dangerous under court order and whose rights have not been restored National Conference of State LegislaturesNational Conference of State Legislatures.Arkansas – Prohibits possession for those adjudicated mentally ill or involuntarily committed National Conference of State LegislaturesNational Conference of State Legislatures.California – Bars firearms for inpatients deemed a danger to self/others under mental health law National Conference of State LegislaturesNational Conference of State Legislatures.Connecticut, Hawaii, New York – Impose gun bans after certain emergency mental health hospitalizations, even without court-ordered commitment The TraceThe Trace.Washington – Prohibits firearms for those involuntarily committed for mental health treatment or found not guilty by reason of insanity stateregstoday.comstateregstoday.com.
>>545224542>vert
>>545224542Guns require IDs to buy, right? Dems don't like IDs though.
>>545227401Banning people who have been involuntarily committed to a mental hospital is different from even requiring someone to take a mental health test, let alone just a "competency" test. Like you can be legitimately crazy and buy a gun, as long as you've kept that craziness safely hidden to yourself.
>>545224542You need an ID to buy a gun
>>545224542wow i love my mail in guns without ID requirement!
>>545227577>There is a differenceNo it is not. You act like voting is harmless. You can do a lot more harm with a vote than you can with a gun.
>>545225230Gun show loophole
>>545227748Okay, I'll be more blunt so that you don't misunderstand me this time. No one has to pass a crazy test to buy a gun. Thus your point was a false equivalence.
>>545224542Access to both guns and voting need to be IQ and virtue tested. Too many retards are allowed to do both.
>>545224542I need a utility bill, insurance, or other proof of residence, a background check, and I'm still limited to what type of gun I can purchase.Seems like that would be a lot of restrictions to vote.
>>545227987No, Ive been talking about people who are not in their right mind this entire time.
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>>545228232The person that brought up competency tests. You think I'm going to dox myself?
>>545228300you have a different ID nowanyways your point was that it should be equally easy / difficult to vote and to buy a gun, and then you suggested that crazy people can't buy a gun, so that means we should have a crazy test before you can voteAnd this comparison doesn't hold up because we don't have a crazy test before people can buy a gunSo you're not actually trying to equalize it, you're trying to make new standards for both voting and buying a gunSo just say that instead of citing current gun laws You want it to be more difficult to vote AND to buy a gun
>>545228434Some states do require competency checks to own a gun though
>>545224542LOL AMERICA
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>>545228434One of the main reasons there are so many homeless people is because they generate votes. They'll handhold the homeless into following the steps to get a ballot then drop them some drugs, cash, or something else they want/need when they vote. Also it's a good cover for our spies.
>>545224542It effectively is. To register to vote you provide id or sign an affidavit. To buy a gun, same thing but with a background check to make sure you’re not a violent offender.
>>545228610And even if they did, those are ironically the commie shithole states you least want to live in lol
>>545228683How new are you?
>>545228756You want to live in California?Even Californians don't want to live in California.
>>545224542Make it illegal to sell guns to niggers and then we can talk
>>545228610did you not see this? >>545227401
>>545226423Regardless of their intention, the reality of that would keep every illegal from voting. If the intention is as you say, it's extra funny.
>>545224542It is 10x easier if you aren't illegal
>>545228945Illegals already can't vote. Maybe they're breaking the rules and doing so, but by this logic people are breaking the rules and buying guns they shouldn't be able to. So...>>545228864Those are virtually all dealing with people's past recorded actions like being involuntarily put in a mental hospital. I don't see anything there that would suggest you have to pass a competency test.
>>545228791Californians do want to live in California. They also recognize there are places outside of california that are pretty good. So they slowly buy out those places leaving the locals, except for a select few, broke and shoved off elsewhere to less desirable lands or left to bear their weight. This way those places can also be just like california so they feel at home when on vacation. How new are you? You seem new.
>>545229271I'm not new and it's an ad hom even if I was
>>545224542Leftists don’t evaluate statements on their logical merits
>>545224542voting should be a privilege afforded to landowners only
Yeah you need id
>>545224542I agree. Buying a gun should not be considered different from any other transaction though.
>>545224542Retards are hilarious. I'm fine with needing a valid ID and a background check, to vote.
>>545224542Sure. Illegal immigrants anf foriegners cant buy guns in the USA.
>>545224542In Brazil you need to prove you know how to shoot a gun and have an ok aim to register as a "gun shooter", nvm buying a gun.In Brazil you need to be registered as a gun shooter to have classes about shooting guns and shooting at a gun range.The law is also purposely paradoxical and vague, meaning that anyone can go to jail at any time by getting close to a gun.That's just the tip of the iceberg, it's almost impossible to buy a legal gun in Brazil, you can easily order one from Paraguay in the internet though, they do home delivery in most places in Brazil.
>>545224542I am in Illinois. I fucking agree but the other way around. We need a FOID card from the state to buy a gun. I think I should just be able to get it like illegals can get IDs here!
>>545234654I hate foids.
>>545224542>Mandatory Training: You must complete an 18-hour safety course. This includes 16 hours of classroom instruction and 2 hours of live-fire training.>Character References: You must provide multiple notarized character references (usually four) who live within your county to vouch for your moral character.>Extensive Wait Times: Depending on your county, the approval process can take anywhere from 6 months to over a year.>High Fees: Between application fees, fingerprinting fees, and the cost of the mandatory 18-hour course, the startup cost can easily run several hundred dollars.>Clean Record: You must be at least 21 years old and have no felony or "serious offense" convictions. You must also be completely transparent about any past arrests, even if they were sealedi wish voting was as hard as buying a gun in new york
buying a gun at least gives you a chance to change something..voting wont.ever.
>>545224542>need to pass a background check>need a permit that requires a class and testing to be able to vote on the same day or face a cooldown period>some states will make it impossible for you to vote>non citizens cant vote>felons can't vote>constant threat of having your right to vote taken away because of certain voting tech bansYeah, just as easy right?
>>545227777In my red state, you couldn't buy guns at the gun show without having a CCW permit