Making babies is the way we save the west why do u chuds struggle to land a birthgiver?
>>545226233it is only the anti-christian whites that are going extinct
>>545226309You ran away from me in the other thread, coward.
>>545226309Mormons are not Christian
>>545226233Remove the public social net and all white women will have kids at the age of 25.
>>545226233White chuds are doomed. Latino chuds like myself aren’t.t. 31 with 2 sons, 1 daughter and another baby due in March
>>545226233>babies >land>garden. Farm if possible>animals>as self sufficient as possible>the culture and art of your ancestorsEschew>consumerism >goyslop>lustful imagery>masturbation >cultural newfaggotry>dependenceI will be killed by a government agency for posting this.
>>545226744Latino faggots like you are doomed because you are broke dick faggots who all get diabetes by 35 from your constant intake of corn chips and sugar, that's why your women all turn into tortas by 23
>>545226233>Making babies is the way we save the westyou fags never explain how beyond>uuhhhh mudshits breeding!!!just a reminder, it takes 9 months to make a human and only a minute to kill oneits clear what the solution is
>>545226233no amount of children you have will overcome the legions of niggers entering the USimmigration is the key. not making big, poor families.
>>545226694This is unironically the way you get morality to come back in the West.Ban abortion, ban welfare programs for single mothers, let a generation of spawn squirted out by stupid whores starve to death.Once their brats aren't safe if they go hoping on every retard's cock that is to be found, and they can't resort to birth control to essentially live life as a barren whore by choice, they'll shape up.We'll return to normality of women offering loyalty+pussy, in exchange for work and competence.We'll go back to women themselves serving as the social police against whorish behavior, as much if not much more than men do, like they were 100 years ago."Conservatives" won't do it though, because there is nothing conservative about them, they're just nasty little kike Jews that want to save their money from taxes, that is all they ever give af to conserve.
>>545226744More meat for the grinder. your children will be good, low iq slaves for the "elites"
>>545226233You telling me those Retards with 3 teeth at those rallies who dont believe in dinosaurs and dropped out of pre school are gonna make a society that looks like that?
>>545226233I was just chatting with chatgpt about this:>boomers were 80m peak and are now 64m>gen x is 64m>millenials are 74m>gen z is 71m>gen a (ended 2025) is 51mgen a is the millennials children, 75% of millennial women wanted children but only 68% had them. Gen z women, only 48% want children and they are lagging behind other generations at the same age already. If trends hold up, gen b will be ~35m. However, its rural and suburban religious women that overwhelmingly responded to wanting children and urban and minority women who responded to not wanting them. Right wing white women, amish women, mormon women and orthodox jewish women are the only women with positive birthrates, so gen b is likely to majority white. All we have to do is keep immigration cut off, ban h1bs and keep deporting beaners and we will be a white majority country forever
>>545227196Correct.
>>545226233https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ENo0zw91zjsEnding fiat money and instituting a homesteading act is the fastest way for all of us to get families. It takes a village to raise a child, and the villagers are dabbing relationships as status symbols instead of forming teams to raise their young, trying to substitute it with the filth that is daycare, public education and modern healthsystem. You dont make kids to spite your community, you dont beat the odds to have kids, its a team effortAn incalculable amount of fucks to the bastards who ended bretton woods, knee capped nuclear energy, abd instituted population controlAnd also fuck the pedos, when people ask if you want kids my first thought now is to raise or to eat. Aint raising tax chattel for pedos reading their mcgraw hill textbooks in elementary school.
>>545226233Because the state gives women things and they vote for them, you need to be like an 8 or 9 for women to even think you are worth their time
>>545226233> the way we save the westIt can’t be saved at this point. I don’t hate the few remaining ethnic European bros enough to delude them into thinking it’s possible, it would just be a waste.
>>545226233Bitches are the problem themselves.
>>545226309>it is only the anti-christian whites that are going extinctStumbling into any church institution in current year shows your statement to be the polar opposite of reality. Why lie like this
>>545226233Chudding out is very effective birth control
>>545226309literally this: while keyboard Nazis and LARPgans talk about defending the nation and its ethnic composition, the ones who will actually save their countries from demographic collapse are the most devout Christians. The pagans can keep asking Odin for help, because they’re incapable of reproducing.
They need financial and housing access, and more peer positive early on directions that family starting is good. It's going to have to be facilitated to keep up with frankly, security matters on this side of the world. Domestic reproduction increase.
>>545226680mormons are Not a healthy family unit, not the polygamist. We need Healthy Families.Capable logical brains that will be useful.
>>545227196Single income homes aren't really viable anymore. Jesus and feminine shaming wont change that
>>545228113But a homesteading act will
>>545226694All you will get out of that is afganistan, eventually! More children is not the only goal, if nation can't survive.Where womens rights and social nets are non existent, so is a organized advanced society snd nation. Basically, we have proven current models world wide, womens rights snd safety nets vs not and how nations fair on all fronts. They don't fair well without Womens Rights snd Safety Nets.Sorry, no dictatorship for you, no sadism, not productive.
>>545226860>>545227254>raging and not making childrenGreat strategy
Employment.Housing.Healthcare.Stay in same classroom with peers longer. Meaning, have the teacher move class to class in grade school so class can stay together. Bonds are extremely important.Stay in neighborhood longer. Meaning, make it OK to live in a family home and neighbourhood prolonged term, ownership and pride, contribution snd knowing neighbours all your life. Bonds ties and community.Make highschool trade oriented.
Because of DA J000000Z
>>545228423yep
>>545228113Single income households are too risky, a making less than like 80k for a household with non-adult children is in the bottom quartile. At typical male incomes, you're basically scrimping and never having fun and living in a shitty part of town or school distrct, while your kids' dual income peers (median hhi 140k ish) just have better lives. To say nothing of how much financial stress impacts marriages and divorces. Unless a guy is making late career money, 120k+, in his late 20s or early 30s, single income houses are constant financial stress.It doesn't help that a lot of women who want to be SAHMs want the lifestyle of a more typical working mom - two cars, going on vacations - while just being kinda lazy broads that doomscroll all day (exacerbated if you can't afford a car for them to run errands).
>>545228216Real estate is an investment houses are not for living in. Blame single mothers all you want but most of them work. Welfare is a band aid on a bullet hole and christfag rugged individualism anti abortion rhetoric is only going to lead to more crime and homeless which you will then need to spend money to incarcerate
>>545226713This.
>>545228493I think you replied to the wrong post
>>545226233Why did they import so many brown people then
>>545228493It's easy to hate single moms, but do you have the courage to hate SAHMs that complain about money.
>>545226680Yes they are. They're just not in your sect don't be assmad
I'm not black so that means I would be a 12/10 billionaire which I am also not
>>545228479You cant care for a wife and kids on 80k. Fucking impossible. Put people in homes at least before you start trying use shaming tactics. When you're barely working to live a bunch of fags barking doesn't really faze anyone. But the solution amongst most "Christians" is to make them even more destitute
>>545226233Women don't want to date timmycels. Its why they're so afraid of rejection due to porn consumption and insecurities. The white birth rate will continue to decline.
>>545228479Why if i was trying to get a girls pussy wet id make a cabin in the woods, feed 7 dogs off the fish in the river, let her meet the neighbours and show her the stars helicopter beacon. We'd feast on blood and wildgame and fuck on wolfskins in front of a heathen fire, this money aint worth shit, it cant stimulate their nesting impulse like that canTheyll all deny they want until they realize the resources there are more secure than in fiat employment
>>545227071Yep. Birthrates aren't the only problem. Niggers are violent, jeets cheat, spics are lazy etc. all those things erode society
>>545228798The white birth rate is actually the only one increasing
>>545228624The point is they shouldn't have to worry about money. You can't just expect everyone to be poor and shut the fuck up about it. If your woman is greedy tough luck bud but if people lived comfortably in a home and had their needs met this probably wouldn't even be a thing
>>545228706>give me more free stuffnah you have too much free stuff, give you less>>545228915women have their needs met and use the government as a surrogate husband
>>545228467>DA JOOOOOOZ
>>545228994Yes doubling down doesn't change that, you think you're making a point?
>>545226233I assume you have to be a good parent and provide for your kids futures as well otherwise what's the point of spitting out five kids if they're just gonna grow up to be criminals?
>>545228987>feminine shaming and more poor people How's that working out tor you? Nobody is listening fag
>>545228994>DA EVIL JOOOZ made me incel
>>545226233penis much too small, truck much too big
>>545228706I agree. A lot of these Christian SAHMs, at least the ones that aren't photogenic influencers married to techbros and investment bankers (which even then is working and bringing in money) are various stages of grief at being poor. Usually denial (we're not actually poor; it's normal to not be able to afford X) or bargaining (okay, we are poor, but XYZ makes it worthwhile <3).Christian SAHM poverty fetishization is pretty wild, if you've seen those circles on Twitter. I think this is part of why they're into homeschooling so much. It gives them something to do all day that seems like the tradeoff is worth it, since in many cases, they can't afford a second vehicle so she's stuck at home until hubby comes back.
This is when and how we lost the reproductive war, making ammunition to kill other whites for the Jewhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OG8jPopr8e0
>>545226233Dick too big.Nah, I'm just kidding
>>545228994Oh look a jew
>>545226233I tell women I'm autistic and they ghost me. God decided that I am to lead a lonely life.
>>545226233if the government wants to enhance my neetbux allowance to accommodate this venture, I am more than willing to participate.The money is the motive, anon.
>>545229068I don't stupid little pile of shit, how's that population decline because you're such an incompetent idiotic fuck that none of your moronic socially libertine ideas have played out at all, and coping by flooding the nation with idiotic niggers, how is that working out for your quality of living.>but no we need more free shit, actually pay our houses to sit in and collect free shit>>545229205thread is full of them
>>545229121Women in the past had side jobs like sewing and shit or running a farm. People want to work but they want something to show for it
>>545226233I dunno. I guess I give women the ick or something. Most women my age (35+) are fat tattooed feminists with kids anyway.
>>545229248>feminine screeching Yeah yeah
Oops changed ips on me. Had to get smokes which I can afford because I dont have kids
>>545228994This but unironically.
>>545229421can't argue because you're just a disgusting little nigger idiot
>>545229598Why would I want to argue with some faggot on 4chan? I dont give a dry fuck about population decline because neither you or those in power are interested in fixing it
>>545226233God gave me 3. All DNA tested because we live in hell.
>>545229388Correct. A lot of farm wives did the books, worked in the fields, or found side gigs to bring in extra cash. At least that was my experience with the closest version to trad living in parts of rural Thailand.The American aspiring SAHM wants to be more like a Victorian "kept woman" than a traditional wife. Problem is, a kept woman wasn't cheap then, it's not cheap now, and the women who want to be SAHMs are usually too boorish for the men that could afford a kept woman.
>>545226233>only female offspringBased. Abort all male fetuses.
>>545226233because the ones that can give birth are too old for my tastefuck the west, i want ot be in glorious Nippon
>>545229720Thats the thing. People think women didn't work in the past of course they did and thats how they got their spending money.
>>545229656>I go to politics section to not discuss politics and jump ips to shill my nonsense, he's my idiotic take, tho.Moron. Less than human.
>>545226233Lmao not until leadership changes. it is not the answer to anything besides keeping you shackled to an actual responsibility.
>>545229818Youre just going to cry about niggers and women because thats all youre capable of doing. Im willing to discuss solutions like putting people in homes. All you want to do is screech like a little bitch
>>545228685>christ is only a human>there are multiple gods>CHRISTianretard
>>545229810They think they'd be one of the ladies in Downton Abbey. No, Kayleighlynne, you'd be one of the maids, and your ass would be working.
>>545228987>muh free stuffStop taxing us 70% maybeYOU are getting OUR stuff for free kike
>>545228083Mainstream Mormons haven't practiced polygamy since 1890. Unsurprisingly, the sects that still do have more children per woman, more tightly knit families, and stronger social cohesion.
>>545227904The National Association of Evangelicals, World Relief partners with local churches across the U.S, the Catholic Legal Immigration Network, Episcopal Migration Ministries, Global Refuge, Bethany Christian Services, and UMCOR all facilitate immigration and resettlement of Africans and South Americans to America. Just because the Amish live in enclaves, and Mormons still function as polygamists doesn't mean Christians are meaningfully stopping White replacement. In most cases they are behind facilitating mass immigration. Meanwhile, the Ásatrú Folk Assembly functions as explicitly Whites-Only, and supports homeless White people, has programs for children and youth that don't teach White guilt (extending from the concept of Christian 'original sin'), and supports family building. Christian organizations are actually actively destroying America and Europe through immigration, not Pagans or Pagan organizations. This is also a big reason Whites are leaving the Church.
>>545229205
>>545230024Feckledink is there a worse fate than being a jew? What should be done with you
>>545226309Mormons are dropping the ball. They've developed a pathological fixation on their image to outsiders and are now paying for it. That's not even accounting for how non-White they've become as a result of their proselytizing campaigns in the third world.
>>545229892yes idiot nigger worth less than a dog's squirt, you already mentioned "just give them free shit tho bro" like for ~75 years we haven't tried those ideas out.You fatherless joke, you're not smart for suggesting you're super special by suggesting to do same-thing again.Actual nigger piece of stupid shit, even. It's not like other nations don't have even more elaborate welfare and mere gibs distribution systems, and that's not resulted instantly in population rise.If you don't even care about the entire OP topic you stupid little fuck then follow your own idiotic advice and fuck off somewhere else you completely logic devoid imbecile."Durr I don't even care I'm so cool look, and uh don't argue with me tho but uh uh, gimme stuff maybe?"Kek gfys actual dumb nigger. You are a pile of trash in every way.
>>545226233I find women insufferable. Their babble almost always means nothing
>>545229987I don't live there. Obviously they need to tax you more though so there is more social programs because reasons. Clearly.
>>545229970Everyone has to work except the ultra rich. And even they had to marry some chump for money. Still do
>>545230165I never said give them free shit. You're arguing with yourself with feminine hysterics. Which is all most 4chud Christians do while no actual person listens
>>545229403Can I fight her and maybe eat our offspring?
>>545230299you are arguing against the person who said not to give them free shit pilpul oozing idiotic slimy worm, and pearl clutching at the thought labeling it "feminine screeching" in some no u idiotic rhetoric attempt.Yes you are, otherwise you would have shut the hell up and stop whining about what was said from the start. You wouldn't be taking offense. You dirt's worth dumb fake nigger.
>>545230011>National Association of Evangelicals, World Relief partners with local churches across the U.S, the Catholic Legal Immigration Network, Episcopal Migration Ministries, Global Refuge, Bethany Christian Services, and UMCORThese are all zionist controlled real estate holding companies which rely on government kick backs to cover operating losses on their investment portfolios. Its all a money laundering scam. They don't actually believe anything they preach.
>>545226744We need less spics and more whites around. I'm going to assume you use welfare programs?
>>545230239Basically. I think more men than women understand this, which is why outside weird e-christians, being a SAHM is mainly aspirational to poor and religious women.
>>545227343Yes because they are genetically predisposed to create societies like that.
>>545230557Welfare is simply so people arent dying in the streets or further overcrowding prisons. Most people on welfare work. Queers like you just want to maximize suffering but as you see there are drawbacks to that
>>545230585Maybe Christians should do something about that then, instead of pointing the finger at racist Pagans like those involved in Ásatrú or identitarianism who don't want to live or be around shitskins, or have their kids raised around them. Christians and their spiritual pluralism is irreconcilable with White nationalism, or White sovereignty.
>>545228311Having children in America is breeding literal slaves. They didn't ask to be born into a world where they wont be able to live life without owing someone else a fee for existing, never truly owning anything, and minorities and kikes stealing and robbing their quality of life their entire lives until they die miserably of cancer or rape murdered.
>>545226309other than mormons these are all germansand mormon birthrates are falling through the floor
>>545230721I dont think welfare is a good solution. But 4chan faggots act like single moms are living it up on their dime but most of them work its just a fact. If our system wasn't broken we wouldn't need welfare and people would still work to improve society since they wouldn't have to work for some fat lazy faggot and still not have enough to take care of their kids
>>545230866No it's mostly dysgenic filth that use welfare.
>>545226233they let the jews ruin our women's mindshttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FgxacX72snA&ra=m
>>545231032Like I said, it's easy to hate single moms. It takes courage to say that most SAHMs are lazy broads whose household money problems are self-inflicted.
>>545231039So youll either need to exterminate them or incarcerate them. But yeah create millions of even more desperate people go ahead
>>545226233saw something recently about this concept of the wild man/man child a man raised outside of civilization. There where millennia of philosophers thinking of how to motivate such a man to participate in society before the plebs got 'freedom' beyond serfdom. A man can in fact just go live in the woods fine after all.No one applied that philosophy to women, they just shit out feminism. So now we're in a world where 9/10 of them you meet are going to be glorified woman children, and you are the woods they are optimized to abuse.
>>545231144Its easy to hate and not provide or want any solutions. We've built an entire society around it
>>545226233all it takes is importing a single amish family into your state/country to save civilization
>>545226233I have two blonde kids, the West needs to collapse so the North can emerge as a counter balance to the global south. I would have more kids but I have to pay taxes to our greatest ally and to sustain the lives of inner city groids…because that is the Western Way.
>>545231297It's called "get a fucking job" like women have done throughout history
>>545226309Where as anti white Christians are growing. The average Christian is a sub Saharan African with an IQ in between 50-80.
>>545226233Maybe people would be more willing to have babies if the economy wasn't so fucked to the point that a post-grad can't get a job that supports a wife and children.
>>545231401If I wasn't lazy I would add goatee hands pulling the west open
>>545227730Nope, jews are.
>>545230011>The National Association of Evangelicals, World Relief partners with local churches across the U.S, the Catholic Legal Immigration Network, Episcopal Migration Ministries, Global Refuge, Bethany Christian Services, and UMCOR all facilitate immigration and resettlement of AfricansLikely just jewish led orgs with Christian names, avi.I don't trust a word you say.
>>545226233They're being subsidized by the government to be annoying retarded and act like a gay man.
>>545231452Most people on welfare work but you already know that. You can't support a kid working at mick d's so what the point?>oh no boomer fags will shame meHow's that working out for you?
>>545230871>instead of pointing the finger at racist PagansNo such thing.They are just new athiests.Anyhow, the only Whites making kids are Christians.The rest are just whiny little shits who thinks crying about White genocide on jew platform is doing something.
>>545226233i cant find a blond virgin so i wont make new blond virgins....
>>545226233Im married and have three side chicks and I keep nutting but they dont get pregnant. I though you guys said birth control fails and thats why women needed abortion.
>>545228798>Women don't want to date timmycels.this jeet is rightwomen want the world to be brown completely
>>545231832They were all ground up into mcdonalds hamburgers after jews were done using them.
>>545226233>Impregnating whores (99% of modern women) will save the WestHave fun with that
>>545226233The game is over, as I am fond of saying. The women won. They are in control of the eugenics program and the multi-trillion-dollar pussy reward system — a highly symbolic fertility ritual. But they are in control of much more than the reproductive apparatus. They control not only the men and government of the United States of America but through the power of pussy and the susceptibility of men and government officials, fiat currency manipulation by the Witches of Fiat Currency at the Federal Reserve System, a large army of simps and "backers" (this is a technically incorrect use of the term) who are fighting to maintain control of the Frankenstein monster they created called Onlyfans (in a war I fear we are going to lose), and even the Republican form of government they created which inevitably—and I would argue by design—fosters centralized female matrilineal control and assures only a handful of "pre-selected" men must be sacralized to control an entire country, they control the entire world.
>>545229109R8 my whip
>>545230871It has nothing to do with christ. Its just branding. Its like a restaurant claiming to have some world famous recipe. They use targeted branding so people think they are religious and apolitical, instead of being zionist controlled hedge funds.
>>545231505Yeah dude, this whole >just go back to being republicans for jebus and everything will be ok again, goyPsyop is incredibly retarded. They need to come to terms with the fact that just saying "lol ur gay and childless" isn't going to work, especially when you have Poland as the west's tradcath archetype sitting at a fertility rate of 1.1
>>545226233All the "birthgivers" either dont want to give birth or have already been jizzed in.Neither is particularly attractive. Surely not something to work even a 9-5 for.
>>545226233>why do u chuds struggle to land a birthgiver?the future mother of my children hasn't been born yet.
>https://youtu.be/oKZHjoZUMD8>lol
>>545227196This. Welfare isn't sustainable in a socialized fashion they desire anyway, there can't be huge swaths of population just living off of worker taxes, that shit should go to people who are infirm or otherwise physically broken. How many women are on disability purely for mental bullshit? How many parents have down syndrome kids that will probably never live on their own or get passed off onto the state? Fuck that shit, your mind is your own problem or your parent's problem, not the average citizen's.
>>545226713I agree with this completely as a virgin in my 30s. I don’t want sex anymore. I would refuse it. The whole thing just really pisses me off.
>>545226233Because fag j w s media and anti whites told women that higher iq people have less kids and they stupidly fell for the lie They also lied about white men being predators when crime stats prove it’s the other way around
>>545228113>Single income homes aren't really viable anymore.They are, and they would be 10x more viable without migrants and women in the workforce.Economic issues are primarily caused by social ones.>>545228231>literally every society before 1920
>>545235278>I don’t want sex anymore. I would refuse it.no dirty sanchez? no shit stained balls? no butthole pleasures? ever? grim.
>>545235484Not to a great deal of the population or else you wouldn't be bitching about birthrates. And if your population is producing workers you dont need immigrants. And if you just want to cry about immigrants go ahead I dont fucking care
>>545226713The good thing about being incel is that you don't care about this garbage world anymore, in a way it's kind of freeing.
>>545236218Racism really is the easiest way to manipulate stupid people. Deport all immigrants. Seriously go ahead. Im still not working for garbage wages and neither will you. The economy will straight collapse. Also good. But youre a fucking moron if you think the rich people arent brining them here and hiring them to make more profit.
>>545236369yes
youd just be birthing jews more slaves. its pointless, unless you think they will be more capable than you right now. judging by ai and the robot dogs replacing police, id wager thats unlikely. best bet is to gtfo or establish a new country somewhere. why would you want to doom your children to working twice as hard for half as much as you have right now, which is an inevitability because christcucks sold our countries out to jews, and thats how usury works, and has worked.or maybe youre betting on jews coming to their senses and seeing the error of their ways?
>>545226309christdorks are dumb.
>>545228311Never argue with genetic dead ends. It's kind of like arguing with holes.
>>545230998Once again, genetic dead end. Have fun being babysat by niggers who beat you.
>>545230585>>545231817>>545234228>>545231719Grade-A christdorks.
>>545227196Finally a post this based on the fucking internet again, after like a year of not seeing one like this.
latino here, i have 1 kid with my first gf, and 2 kids with my present wife, im only 23.5america will be speaking spanish within a generation