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Atheism is a religion based on faith in unproven theories.
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>>545237357
>agnostic highest
the scientists in your science books are christian
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>>545237534
I don't blame archaic men for doing so. They didn't have all the info that modern men have. Besides, being excellent in a matter doesn't exempt you from falling into mysticism
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>>545237753
Modern man knows less than ancient man.
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>>545237513
Theism: The religious belief in a spontaneous, causeless, sourceless, purposeless, meaningless existence except there's some powerful guy in the sky
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>>545237357
>Atheism is a religion
its not. it just means you dont believe into some god figure and dont belong to some organized religion.
>>545237513
atheism doesnt mean one has to be a nihilist.
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>>545237357
Agnosticism is just atheism but by faggots who pretend they aren't
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Religion is a waste of time if you don't believe in god.

It's fine if you don't but anyone dumb enough to believe in a biblical god probably should. It is the opiate of the masses and a necessary one.
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>>545237534
imagine what these guys could have achieved if they didnt waste their precious time with religion.
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>>545238595
fucking idiot
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WE RARG NOW PLAYA
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>>545237357
Christianity is still a Jewish cult.
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>>545237357
I'm what you would call an ignositic. The whole hurr durr do you believe in god discussion is retarded unless you properly define the terminology and everybody agrees upon it.
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>>545240037
>agnostic
so, you maybe worship a god? that makes no sense
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>>545237357
>gnostics were the most correct
>we don't live on a stupid globe
>your body isn't (you)
>this realm is more like a prison than anything else
>the is life after bodily death and you aren't prepared for it
>if you remain ignorant, you come back to live here again (basically hell)
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>>545237357
Yeah it is a religion in the same way not collecting stamps is a hobby.
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>>545240208
Ignosticism isn't even taking the maybe decision. It argues the whole discussion is meaningless because you gotta define what "god" is supposed to be in the first place. Abrahamism has like hundreds of different ideas and that's just the mainline sects and we're not even talking about personal notions of god. Is like when Jordan Peterson talks about believing in god or whatever but he means something entirely different than whatever some evangelical magatard might believe. Yes, I believe in god. What now?
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>>545240208
He said ignositic not agnostic; they're not the same thing.
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>>545238595
Most modern “men” are shitskins so easily true.
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>>545237357
It literally isn’t. You guys simply can’t imagine a faithless world.
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>>545237357
How is not believing in clearly fictional nonsense a theory. Is not believing in spiderman also an unproven theory.
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>>545237513
How exactly would a God make any difference here. God came from nothing, so all those assertions would still be valid even if God existed.
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>>545240532
Hos is saying God came from nothing any different from saying the Universe came from nothing?
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>>545237513
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>>545240456
How do you know it's fictional? What created everything that exists?

>ib4 everything always existed
do you realize that this statement is illogical? it breaks the cause and effect law. it means it doesn't have a cause, that it exists without cause
until the first cause it's answered i'll leave the door open to a creator other than religious one
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>>545240563
Its not, the different is the universe actually exists, god is some nonsense you made up. You can't just make up random shit.
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>>545239198
No agnosticism is more something like this
>does God exist? Maybe he does, maybe he doesn't, I'm not really sure.
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>>545237357
How about we do rational empiricism?

That is, we study using the empirical scientific method. But we study EVERYTHING, even religions. But we only study things that warrants (this is where the rational affix comes in) a need, and we leave low probability things to AFTER we have a foundational basis wherein people aren't immediately suffering. No more CERN, no more billion dollar holes in the ground in some japanese mountain to study muons. No more religious institutions taking 100's of billions of dollars and untold billions of human hours every year

Sure, feel free to practice and religion you want, but it cannot be organized or institutionalized unless you can provide the context, using the empirical method, for the weight and or merit of your religion

It's the perfect middle ground between the obvious fact that no spiritual belief has been proven after 10,000 years of recorded history and the want to discover realms unknown. We can let people run scientifically and methodologically sound tests with things like DMT, or tests to try and prove religion, but they're only given very limited resources, and they'll earn more if merit persists to their idea. If nothing comes from testing with empiricism we halt all tests until new technologies or methods arise that warrants re-testing

We use the 100's of billions wasted on what is effectively schizophrenia (religion, dark matter, red shift, deep space telemetry etc) to establish social programs to test and categorize humans so they can be placed in their optimal state (races separated, governing themselves, but ultimately limited to themselves, no more White mans tech for nons)

How about we drop all this spiritualism nonsense and actually start walking forward as a society. Drop the facade of liberalism and equality and equity and giving all the gains of a global minority (White people) to the lessers in the hopes they can pull themselves up or make themselves whole
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>>545240702
Inventing a sky wizard is not useful. Also, you just run into the exact same problem of infinite regress, who created the sky wizard. There is absolutely no justification to invent a sentient creator.
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>>545240702
it hasn't have to be a mystical creator, maybe aliens created this universe, maybe it's all an illusion. who knows for sure
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There is most definitely a creator, but you sure as fuck won't learn anything about it by reading the Jew's book
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>>545239348
>imagine what these guys could have achieved if they didnt waste their precious time with religion.
They accomplished more than all the atheist retards in history that didn't waste their precious time with religion.
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>>545243064
they would have achieved more if they didnt waste their time with jewish fanfiction.
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>>545243889
>they would have achieved more if they didnt waste their time with jewish fanfiction.
Again, you're lacking logic
>atheists that didn't follow religious, did jack shit
>religious guys did a whole lot
Werner Von Braun was a Christian and got us to the moon. Atheist Russia and China failed hard



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