You cannot prove that morality is real beyond muh fee fees and appeal to fake Jew God. Morality is not like physics which we can actually observe.
We can actually observe it with fMRI scans of brain activity. It is just evolved behaviors that are conducive to eusociality
>>545240454Nigga you observe morality regularly, evil does exist.
>>545240516That's just people's fee fees you faggot. That's their opinions. Who cares?
>>545240454Observe deez nuts in your mouth
>>545240454Good to hear OP.That way you'll have no objection to being raped in jail, when your beliefs catches up with you.
>>545240606No you don't. You have an opinion of what is evil which is mostly instilled in you by society to control you. Animals don't feel bad when they eat each other.
>>545240626You're retarded. Yeah most people won't like to be raped. That doesn't mean morality exists.
>>545240610If you are being a materialist you have to go all the way and recognize morality is evolved algorithms that are conducive to social survival and you can measure the spikes producing the behaviors and categorize what triggers them
>>545240454Morality exist through a social construct A society cannot exist without it's citizens having a high moral value
>>545240454Are you real?If I deprived you of oxygen for 5 minutes would it be good or bad for you?You are a human being, you reason, you desire, you feel pain and pleasure and you have basic needs to survive. For you, good and bad exist in a very real, very tangible fashion. Whether what's good for us is objectively valuable on a universal scale is a question for a God to answer not a man. For you, your life and your happiness are innately valuable because you hold them to be valuable. For human ethics to exist only human valuation and human reason must exist not divine valuation or divine reason.When the ancient Greeks discussed morality they limited themselves to the question of what defined a good life for a human being, they did not attempt to reason as a God because they were not Gods. After European philosophy adopted Christianity we adopted the concept of divine justice. When we abandoned Christianity and embraced atheism we abandoned God as a justification for divine justice; but we did not abandon the standard, a standard we don't need to have ethics for a human life.
>>545240636it sucks that you need to explain that to these stupid morons
>>545240674They're not algorithms. They're contrary to survival in many cases. It's just brainwashing.
>>545240703is smoking weed immoral? some places will put you to death
>>545240741I see you are too stupid to engage with.
>>545240762Name one place that gives you the death penalty for smoking weed
>>545240763White people are literally going to go extinct because of "morality." Morality is horse shit and no it's not genetic. It comes from Jew book. The only part that's genetic is empathy. But empathy is just people's fee fees. There's no actual truth value to it.
>>545240734So men have no basis for governance great.
>>545240838If you want to see where your ideology ends up, look at India. Do you want to end up like India?
>>545240910Indians are just genetically dumber but at least they will still exist in 300 years.
>>545240838Morality doesnt exist why should we care?
Good for the tribe = morally correct. It's really that simple.Religion was just a way to codify this stuff.
>>545240734Why should I give a fuck about the ethics when there's nothing to demonstrate they are actually true or have any basis in reality? Morality is just a gamble you take based on someone else not fucking you over in revenge. But if you know they are powerless to fuck you over then there's no reason to give a fuck about them.
>>545240989How do you know what is good for tribe?
>>545240988What's the question? You compounded two things together.
>>545240989And now Whites are cucks who have gay retarded universal morality which just ruins them.
>>545240636>mostly instilled in you by societyThen why do I know circumcision is evil despite society telling me it's good?
>>545241008>what's democracy
>>545240665>Yeah most people won't like to be rapedMuh fee fees. Touch your toes
>>545241078You're right it's just their feelings, dipshit. Now you get it.
>>545241048A state of affairs doesnt tell me what they should be. A word also doesnt entail the facts of the matter. How many bonobo republics are out there.
>>545241008Avoids internal conflict, strengthens bonds = goodCauses conflict, weakens the tribe to outside intervention = bad
>>545241044Because you like your penis and other people like their penises so you combined fee fees and express your combined fee fees. There's still no truth to it beyond pure fee fees.
>>545241026Why should whites care if they are going extinct. There is no morality. Nothing to compel action, no such thing as ethics. The sun comes up. So what.
>>545240734How do you know the human life in front of you isn't just an elaborate illusion conjured up by AI? A philosophical zombie, a hylic, a machine made for the express purpose to manipulate you through your preconceptions? We are rapidly approaching the point where seeing is no longer believing.
>>545241124Why is that good?
>>545241128An assertion you base off of your fee fees.
what is the point of even trying anymore if the genetic makeup of the world in 100 years is 75% indian
>>545241115>people telling me affairs they are having doesn't help the tribe Kek!>How many bonobo republics are out there.What the fuck are you talking about? Are you literally a monkey, nigger?
>>545241165For me it's because it makes me feel good for my race to dominate other races. And I despise the humiliation of my race being destroyed. I want power because it feels good. I want my genes to survive because it feels good. It's an evolutionary instinct. It feels good when we win and bad when we lose. It's that simple. If other people don't feel that when then I think they're gay and retarded and acting against what makes me feel good so I'm gonna mock and degrade them until they listen.
>>545241165>>545241181How retarded are you?
>>545241251Listen to what? are you a faggot wanting other men to make you feel good. Sad.
>>545241181Because the tribe is the basic human social unit, and members of the tribe are genetically related to some degree. Strong, unified tribe = weather hardships better = kill your enemies = spread your genes. There's really no meaning to life beyond that, the rest of your body is just a vehicle to inject the cum in your balls into a fertile womb and carry on into the next generation. Religion is the ultimate cope to this.
>>545241205People do things they like. You like things as well. People tend to do what they like. That's an observation. Those are virtually axioms. Yes it's influenced by how my own mind processes information. There's nothing empirical about these abstract ideas. We can't isolate every variable but I'd like to see how you try to logically refute me.
>>545241312I want everyone to do what benefits me.
>>545241324Thank you Japanon. Are you really a Nip?
>>545240665>>545241103you bank slaves would get drowned in the county jail toilet.you've never spent a day locked up.
>>545241324but what is "your tribe"?that definition can also be made up on the spot and usually isjaps had civil wars for centuries
>>545241355>>545241370>>545241393you're an actual fat boomer pedophile in real life. you are a glownigger.
>>545241312Why is that le bad if morality doesn't exist?
>>545241355>I'd like to see how you try to logically refute me.No you wouldn't
>>545241370>fag wants to be serviced by menThe logic checks out.
>>545241481Why is that bad if morality doesn't exist?
>>545240741What morality is contrary to survival? You have to acknowledge too that "morality" is not only what is best for the self, but for the group. There are things worth sacrificing for that facilitate survival and reproduction for both group and self.
>>545240454Define morality you midget.Babies can tell fair from unfair actions in behavioral studies.You fags know youre fucked up and constantly push your needy validation shit.It's pathetic.
>>545240454Just because something cannot be proven does not mean it does not exist. This is your brain on materialism. There are other planes of existence and we have not developed a method for properly analyzing what can broadly be called the subjective, which includes consciousness, experience, free will, religion, morality. Philosophy is an attempt to apply objective, scientific thinking to the subjective. It has some success but it is fundamentally limited because it is the wrong tool for the job. It can flesh out a value system, but you can also ask 'Why?' repeatedly until you eventually get to an unprovable belief. The existence of consciousness at all proves all of the above to have some basis in reality. Consciousness and individual experience is not compatible with how we understand the universe from a materialist perspective. Scientific theory cannot explain how dead atomic particles combine to form something capable of experience. Either consciousness comes from another plane, and the complexity of the brain merely serves as a required adapter to interface with the material realm. Or atomic particles each contain a trace of consciousness in them, meaning the whole universe is alive. Both these theories completely differ from the dead universe taught by scientists.
>>545241393No>>545241430>that definition can also be made up on the spot and usually isI agree and I think it's nearly impossible to define a "tribe" nowadays, in fact I'd even say the concept began to be diluted with the advent of agriculture - which naturally led to organized religions attempting to codify "morals." When I talk about tribes, I'm mainly referring to the hunter/gatherer ages of humanity.
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>>545240454Everything is by degree. There is no hot or cold. Just as God made you into form so too were you made by Lucifer by being given reason and intelligence. Who has more claim to what you truly are?
>>545241575That's just an expression of empathy. Being able to read other people's feelings doesn't actually mean they have any meaning and important beyond fee fees. Why is robbing someone bad? Because it takes something that belongs to them without compensation. The only way we can justify is that we wouldn't like it ourselves. But who says we should actually care if other people suffer? Prove we should care? Prove we shouldn't just do what's best for our own happiness. You can't.
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>>545240454>Morality does not existSure for an USubnigger an alien concept. For the rest of the world it's just a thing like breathing, loving or being disgusted about (YOU).
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>>545241734https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lL1lHdK-hF8
>>545241725So you haven't proven shit. Didn't your nation do the Holocaust which is accepted to be le most evil thing ever? Jews told me so so it must be true.
>>545240606>evil does existno, it doesn't. for example a pro life person sees abortions as evil while abortionists don't see it as evil.morality is a subjective trait.
>>545241634>I agree and I think it's nearly impossible to define a "tribe" nowadayswell okthen you entire definition is kind of useless in the real world
>>545240734>>545241004>Why should I give a fuck about the ethics when there's nothing to demonstrate they are actually true or have any basis in reality?I just gave you a basis for them that was entirely real and observable a posteriori. Human valuation and human desire. You just dodged the question and reiterated the universal objective morality argument that I had already repudiated as being unnecessary.>Morality is just a gamble you take based on someone else not fucking you over in revenge. But if you know they are powerless to fuck you over then there's no reason to give a fuck about them.Maybe if you're a nigger.If you're a human being, you have reason, you are able to perceive the pain inflicted by your actions, you are able to conceive of a sense of justice, of duty, of honor. If you and you what you hold value as a human being is worthy of your consideration and respect then the same is true of other human beings. Its just logic and truth, you can deny logic and truth and still value your own interests; but at that point you've just accepted that you're a hypocrite. You've abandoned the whole concept of reason or logic or truth being used to dictate your actions, you've abandoned philosophy, you've abandoned your humanity and you've become a nigger.>>545240899>So men have no basis for governance great.I posted John Stuart Mill for a reason. The preservation of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness justifies itself.>How do you know the human life in front of you isn't just an elaborate illusion conjured up by AI?Descartes talked about this he postulated that all reality could be an illusion generated by a demon a concept known as the Cartesian Demon in philosophy. The only thing you can be 100% certain of being your own existence and self awareness, Cogito Ergo Sum, I think therefore, I am.However I would suggest to you that you have to operate on the assumption that what you're seeing is real.
>>545241757>holocaust is bad because making the (((bad people))) leave is le evilBibi even mentioned that the natsoc forced jews to leave instead of killing them. If they did start killing jews in the WORK camps, then it was at the very end of 1941 or early 1942. Good luck trying to get to your 6 million now
>>545241180>How do you know the human life in front of you isn't just an elaborate illusion conjured up by AI?Descartes talked about this he postulated that all reality could be an illusion generated by a demon a concept known as the Cartesian Demon in philosophy. The only thing you can be 100% certain of being your own existence and self awareness, Cogito Ergo Sum, I think therefore, I am.However I would suggest to you that you have to operate on the assumption that what you're seeing is real. To do otherwise is an impossible way to live. You can doubt what you're seeing to a degree; but you can't really operate logically under the belief that all reality is an illusion.
>>545241851Friedrich Nietschze literally said that the Master defines his own values. Meanwhile the faggot slave appeals to empathy because he has to beg the master for scraps.
>>545241911its all hogwash anywayjump out the window if you think its not realthen talk to us how you felt
>>545241851You better capitalize Logic, Truth, etc. and just be a Neo-Platonist.
>>545241919The Ubermensch dictates their own value and their own ethics. That doesn't mean that they should abandon truth or reason in the process.>>545241963A fair objection. I would point out that Logic and Truth do have obvious practical benefits and that they may be confirmed a posteriori. You could abandon them; but do you want to? Is a life unguided by logic or truth desirable? Or is it embracing madness. To me if you accept logic and truth then you accept them, if you deny them hypocritically when it has material benefit to you then you're doing something your own standards dictate to be wrong. Trying to get around that by saying there's no objective universal good is just a cheap trick in my view. If a thing is good to you then you should act logically according to that fact simply because your reasoning dictates it to be true. That's how we make all decisions. Do I question if I "ought" to believe if 2+2=4? Or do I simply believe it because logic and truth dictate it to be so? If this sort of decision making analysis is sufficient for us to make scientific reasoning and to understand the world around us why should it not be sufficient for us to make decisions governing whether our own behavior is beneficial or not?
>>545240516Fpbp. Morality is whatever behaviors your conspecifics won't murder you over and which won't doom your lineage. This is why ancient tradgedy usual set familial piety against social norms. There's two not entirely compatible evolve moralities.
>>545241710Why, because you say so?That's just straight word vomit cope.You're like color blind people trying to convince normal people this so-called green color doesn't really exist. Some of the baby experiments used blank/neutral facial expressions, no emotions to empathize off of.It's really just amoral or damaged goods trying to justify their state of affairs.We also have data for those able to keep score.-Christians and Rabbinics have mutually exclusive sets of morals. One has 2k years of successful history creating self sufficient countries/ and kingdoms--otherwise known as the West. Those are organizational creations.-The morals that jews have made it impossible to form a country in that same time period and the subsidized colony they currently scammed off the crown via usury isn't even self-sustainable. that's data too.
>>545242182Demonstrate that morality has any truth value independent of fee fees.
>>545242471No it's just that morals aren't real and you're a brainwashed faggot who is scared to accept that because you think invisible God man will punish you for it.
>>545242693You have fee fees. You exist. If I hurt your fee fees it will be unpleasant for you.See...>>545240734
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eY7nNo8JgNo
>>545242719aw, your fees fees get hurt?You can't even respond to the direct experimental point addressing your bs empathy rambling so you move on to God?keep going moron, we already know what culture you come from.
if someone were to remove your balls and feed them to you would you still hold this opinion?is the action morally ambiguous, non-existent or objectively wrong? if every person alive decided upon this action would that lead to an improved world or the death of the species? you can very much observe the castration and the effects.from the subjective position of other life this might be for the best, not so much for the human perspective. the morality does not need to be real for realized outcomes to take place. which is why rational people can argue that woke tranny shit is objectively immoral because it leads to sorrowful outcomes for both individual and the society that is subjected to it against their will. there are objective unquestionable moral outcomes, in that sense real or not is irrelevant.the narcissist does not consider other as the nigger does not consider consequence.
>>545242719earth is not at the center of the solar systemearth is not at the center of the milky way galaxyearth is not at the center of the local group of 82 galaxiesearth is not at the center of the laniakea superclusterearth is not at the center of the pisces-cetus supercluster complexearth is not at the center of the shapley concentrationand yet, bafflingly...earth is at the center of the entire universethose perfect eclipses making sense yet?
Ok, then come over and let me flail you then flail your loved ones in front of you whilst making you watch. Shouldn't bother you if morality is just made up social constructs, right? Morality is instinct OP. It's about the continuation of your own life, then about continuation of those you have emotional investment in because they are important to your own well being, like your parents or siblings or kids. Then they are about the wellbeing of those you are surrounded by because if your neighbors are doing fine, that increases your chances of them protecting or helping you if someone tries to attack you. We just have spent thousands of years getting into the fine print of what serves us vs what doesn't to the point of morality feeling almost removed from it's core meaning but it's always about your instinct to not die. Which is inherent to all life forms, even plants. Every moral principle is about increasing the wellbeing of you, your loved ones, your community, society, humanity, animals, nature, etc. it's an exponentially more removed system of realizing how these things impact you if they aren't going right and thus being invested in them being handled right. For example, people in america might be outraged by indians dumping their dead ones into ganghes because they know how water pollution works and how diseases spreading works and how indians migrating and bringing their culture with them works and all those things pose a direct threat to their own health and thus life. It's always at the core about survival.
>>545242693That's an Idiotic request for midwits.Value is subjective, obviously.There are many different moral systems created by many different peoples.You're implied premise is actually what needs to be proven, that no consistent/aspirational behavioral/belief system has any value. >see how absurd that sounds lolRead that again slowly until you get it.
>>545240454People like you would just be killed in the past for daring to out yourself so plainly.
>>545241180occam's razor lol
>>545240454If you do things to piss me off I'll kill you so there is that objective consequence. Immorality only exists because laws exist protecting the immoral.
>>545241817Being pro abortion is being evil, people have just normalized evil behavior over decades of feminist pride slop propaganda
>>545243515depends on whats being denoted by 'value'
many of you seem to relate the moral action in terms of reality/perception etc.it is still objectively immoral to steal virtual currency from another player, as it may lead to negative outcomes for them both in reality as negative emotion/them quitting the game or virtual ramifications in said game. not being able to progress in said game etc/stolen virtual labour.i would go so far as to argue that immoral action in such virtual environment is even more egregious because you are removed further from consequence or justice. the virtual world is not real and yet moral action can still lead to positive or negative moral/immoral outcomes. the judge may not be present to observe your criminality or immortality but this does not mean the event or your selfish action did not take place. an immortal player might beset upon your virtual town a horde of rampaging uneducated savage orcs that will after time destroy the kingdom you have suffered for. subjectivity irrelevant. outcomes very much real. objectively perceived and experienced immorality.
>>545240454Morality is based upon what is true coupled with the positive energies of love, joy and hope. Immorality is based around lies coupled with the negative energies of hate, sorrow and fear. Figure it out, dude.
>>545240741>They're contrary to survival in many cases.Then we wouldn't have them?
>>545244058Circular reasoning.
Oxygen doesnt exist because i dont need it qed
>>545244136You can actually observe the physical properties of oxygen.
>>545244175Nope
>>545244209hamiltoncompany.com/knowledge-base/article/properties-of-oxygen
>>545244275I dont think so
>>545244110If we assume evolution is true and not God then evolution should have pruned behaviors not suited for survival long before they spread to our entire species as well as other species. I don't think you know what circular reasoning means.
Im only brearhing because i feel like it, i dont have to do it
There are two brothers, one of whom goes outside with a flower and one of whom takes a knife, both get attacked by wolves, flowerboy dies. What is the moral of the story? Morality does exist, just like math, it is a human interpretation of reality. Are you going to argue math doesn't exist? Or anger doesn't exist? You sound like an idiot.
>>545241251>>545241370I feel like you read Nietzsche and went full retard.
>>545240454>((thing)) does not existThen why can you talk about it?
i thought of an interesting thought experiment.would morality still exist in a purely mathematical or sterile system in which human participation is removed?for example if you were to create a virtual world and populate it with only npc's, their behavior could be governed by ai or select parameters. they have the ability to select or choose typical im/moral actions, such as killing or stealing from one another. does morality still exist in such a system? if a thing does not perceive can it ever know morality? if the entity is without conscience or will, the im/moral action is without any meaning.>the npcs are not constrained by mortality or consequence>it does not perceive>it does not even enact will within the construct>the world is without meaning >they do not choose, therefor their actions are without morality. is it true then to say you need to possess consciousness and freewill to experience and enact morality? therefor i would argue that morality is very much part of our human condition.
>>545244722imo morality is exclusive to organisms which obtain for sufficient complexity, being capable of formulating adequate moral responses by virtue of those specific qualities. i have some quarrels though with>it does not perceive>the world is without meaningwouldnt behaving in accordance with code suggest theyre familiar with code in some way, even if its just them manifesting a set of criteria established in it? would that be registered as some kind of perception?and what do u mean by meaning? i know this probably sounds retarded but i think that being apart of a web of code to execute certain actions would permit a universal purpose.
>>545244722Morality will always exist by the mere fact that you can talk about it.
>>545240665>That doesn't mean morality existsVery jewish post
>>545244819surely you can distinguish instantiation and something not being in effect
>>545244819You can also talk about a square circle.Idiotic namefag
>>545244992Easy peasy
Every reply here is just gonna be>words words words
>>545244970What's the different?
>>545245128something not metaphysically existing and something not obtaining for truth
>>545240454Concepts do exist. Freedom, or pride aren't tangible, but they do exist
>>545245164If it can be talk about, then it is already physically real.
>>545244818the hypothetical npc world is without meaning. the npcs could choose to all kill each other but it does not matter because nothing is perceived by them. they do not experience their mortality, there is no real consequence of action or experience. it is a dead world. only with true free-will could the decision to do x/y hold meaning within such a world. even if they chose to live peacefully, morality could not be attached to it. they can not be held to account for their sins. in this case you are the judge but if they do wrong it is without substance/meaning is it not? so the judgement becomes meaningless. are you going to threaten them with virtual hell? they are already within such a place and they can not know it.
>>545240454>I'm blind, therefore color doesn't existSounds like a you problem.
>>545245210thts absence of accountability rather than not perceiving something. they experience a rudimentary degree of perception, after all we have our own objectives which confine our decision-making too, and whether or not an overarching metaphysical meaning exists is still a position i think most people are agnostic or existentially inclined.wouldnt they have to reflect (even if its a coded process) on what to do? theres still decision-making even if its not free will, i think they have like the most minimal consciousness thats not paired with free will. and meaning would still just be executing game code while taking into consideration game design or principles dictating how they react
>>545245068that's a slopagon
>>545245231>popperian falsifiability criterion
>>545244819>>545241581/thread
>>545244722>>545245210Behaviours get selected for because they are a filter on current and future life. A moral tribe that works together will win against independent savages. Men from a human settlement can hunt tigers, bears and wolves. That is morality. Greater levels of violence through cooperation. You always start from the smallest point. Life started from a single cell. Yet your body has 30 trillion cells. They don’t immediately break down and kill each other because all the configurations that would do so have gone extinct. Yes, there are issues like cancer and genetic defects but they are a statistical anomaly. In the same way savage apemen that did not cooperate got out bested by apemen that worked together. That is morality. Violence, killing, surviving and breeding more effectively until the blueprint for that behaviour becomes a new standard. https://web.archive.org/web/20250911181904/https://ourchan DOT org/pol/thread/16434.html
>>545240454don't care. i want the society to be maximally good. prosperity of the collective and the individual defines goodness. rules that induce prosperity are worthwhile. the freedom within those bounds is acceptable.
>>545244992yep, and here we are collectively talking about it and having it affect our lives and world.
>>545245377are you saying their actions/morality are independent of their predicament? that if some npc were to murder another as a consequence of its coding that this action is still objectively wrong/evil/immoral? i suppose i could agree with it to some degree. their world is likely in a worse state if they were to all kill each other. they may even develop their own system of justice to uphold moral standards so that such a fate does not come to pass.
>>545245827Why would the world be in a worse state and who says that is an immoral thing?You are a tard wrangler that thinks evolution got us this far so another gorillion years of killing could be even better. You have no standard.
>>545245827>>545246006you are not the totality of the world. you are a human. nature produced humans and thus you are an intention of the world. your body and its necessities granted you your base purpose, but you may define it beyond that. you want prosperity. others want prosperity. help me us induce prosperity. stop wallowing.
>>545245827no i mean that theres consciousness albeit constrained and existing at the most inconsequential level. how would they generate their own moral paradigm independent of the code though
>>545246006depends if you are en entropy enjoyer or not. i think the morality aspect is more heavily reliant upon their capacity for perception, pain reception, experiential suffering etc. if the npcs run around murdering each other and create an even more sterile world that would be very unpleasant from their perspective if they experienced such. the problems of the world are solved sure and entropy has dropped to near zero. what is left is a fish tank with no fish in it and the capacity or potentiality has also died. no coral reef, no more show. morality has also been solved but will not be enacted nor experienced or even contemplated.
>>545246419the paradigm may exist independently like some kind of world of forms. we created that world in our likeness, so it would share similarity but it would not be a perfected reflection. we do the best we can to enact morality but we are not God and so our understanding or implementation of morality may not be perfect. the npc finds itself in a similar predicament. it inherited its understanding of morality from training data captured from base reality or the programmer (like gpt alignment constraint etc).
>>545245627that is one perspective concerning survival and procreation. i do agree that it is important, inseparable from our condition even but it does not explain the totality of morality. not all actions are motivated or can be attributed simply for the sake of breeding, killing, surviving.why does the nigger steal your bike? it is not for the purpose of survival or for breeding but the result is an immoral action which result in increased suffering on your part and a breakdown of trust/law and order etc. the immorality is that cancer of which you refer to. the disturbance of the equilibrium. a disturbance or attack upon higher order of evolution. an increase in the entropic civil unrest
>>545247535Not everything has to have an absolute reason from a perspective of morality. Some actions are like static and are irrelevant on a greater scale. One of your ancestors might have been secretly gay and yet they reproduced. That doesn’t mean much. An individual from a hunter gatherer tribe has the genetic and behavioural qualities suited for that life as filtered through many generations of his ancestors living in that environment. The society that he lives in has come to be under different circumstances and thus has different expectations for morality. The interaction between them is just that.You are also making a mistake like many others. There is good and evil and there is an adversary. A man can be good or evil among his family, his community, his nation. But a wild beast or a hostile nation are an adversary. That same can be said of a coloniser from a hostile ethnic group. Or would you say that a wolf is evil for hunting rabbits? Perhaps lions are intrinsically evil for hunting gazelles? Maybe you are evil for eating cows, chickens and pigs?
>>545245406>criterion itself is unfalsifiable>no one questions your faggot choice of priors
>>545240454I can prove we have the same origin and run on the same code. So to be immoral against another is really to be immoral against yourself since the separation is only here in the meat. You're smart tho you probably know all this.
I concur OP, people tend to have no ability to accept that position without offering punishments for not believing in what they do in response.
>>545240454Yes, morality doesn't exist but the (abstract) concept is indispensable for building a thriving society.The natural state of humankind (without morality) is sustaining on raw meat shredded with our fingernails and vestigial canine teeth.
