This is the "economy" of the "richest country in the world".
>>545251289It's not the country's money, they can't even tex their billionaires properly.
so is the stock market just gambling for jews?
>>545251360thank you for correcting the antichrist, anon. i was about to say.
>>545251379get the fuck out of serbia nigger
>stock market is economyI fucking hate jeets like you would never fucking believe. They are so fucking stupid. They need to die.
>>545251379it's a mix between gambling and astrology for jews
>>545251289Shhh, you are not suppose to notice they are losing more money than they are ever making, you are suppose to say “good SI” and let the scammers dump it 10 more times.
>>545251289listening to some jeet twatter was your first mistake
>>545251379Stocks were supposed to be investments in companies to make them grow. Then Jew bankers realized that you can use them against the companies as debts and that you could exchange them around and give a buy and sell value.Now investors (aka jew banks) count more than costumers (you).See? This is real jew shit, not that “kihke” shit bots scream every 5 minutes.
>>545251544Post the stocks to prove it’s different.
this is the chinese response to posts about their market blowing up first from an ai bubble and the us's notlmaokill yourself you bat eating chinkat least do me a favour and stab some jeets before you leave this earth due to hurt feelings
>>545251379Depends at what P/E ratio a stock is trading. There are value stocks to be bought, but if you just buy Tesla because you heard of it you are simply speculating much like you would at a casino
>>545251600Babby first financial black pill, and its important to made more people swallow it
>>545251622'Money added to the stock market' is a jeet mental error. Since he doesn't understand what the market represents.
>>545251289>gazillion money added>gazillion money wiped out>nothing actually changesthe modern world is all fake isn't it?if people woke up one day and decided the green and red numbers mean nothing, what would happen?
>>545251289>"richest country in the world".
>>545251360You can’t even eliminate free healthcare
>>545251289stock market is gay and fake
>>545251289its funny how the second we heard MUTTIDF bots spam canned lies about some "china ai collapse" (filmsy lie about random China tech index going down after spiking up 240%, after 4 months of Americas regime banning buying from and investing in that index's companies and forced mutts to divest) we all knew where to look for a real AI bubble collapseShit eating miggers are too predictable
>>545252141>40% drop is a nothing burgerretarded chink. AI stonks are crashing everywhere.
>>545251289I don't get obsession with market values. you can't actually access the market cap, when people start selling the market cap goes down, you can never actually realize 100% of market cap. seems like an entirely made up big number.
>>545251379>gamblingkek thats cute
>>545252469The market is just a tool for companies to get extra financing.Companies get a new financing option for their R&D and in exchange stock owners get a say in the company's decisions and a small bonus if the company does well.This market makes no sense. Companies' valuations are not tied to their value or their output, merely by how much hype they can produce.
>>545251289>According to this twitter screencap it's over.>>545251600>Everything I'm too stupid to understand is jewish witchcraft.It's fun to watch a bunch of unemployed broke third worlders give each other financial advice.
>>545253156yea I get the shareholder principles and dynamics of buy backs and dilution. I just don't get the obsession of market value. the say the market is a bazillion dollars, but that can never be realized. in a theoretically scenario where everyone cashed out it would be worth a tenth of that in realized gains.
>>545251289Buy low, sell high. Everyone had a chance to become a millionaire.
>>545251289No, that’s the stock market
>>545252206>headlines are big letters so the projecting lies are real in my mindretarded mutt, your junta banning the purchase and investement into Unitree Robots and Network Suppliers on a 100x trailing earnings tech index, and blackmailing EU IVs to follow suit, has nothing to do with your popping Amerimutt AI bubble you Amerimutts try to projectStop pretending everyone is as retarded as you shit eating miggers, nobody is falling for your VPN samefaggotry.
>>545253391Is the implication here that kikes do not commit fuckery vis a vis the stock market?
>>545251289Looks like bots auto buy/sell enmasse
>>545253708Yes, that's the make-believe economy which exists only to enslave you
>>545251944Unless you're a nigger, then you're buying 3 carts full of goyslop with gibs and are the single fattest group of people on planet Earth.
>>545253799No, that’s the federal government
>>545251360This is why Zoomers and Millennials don't give a shit about the stock market and the "line must always go up" economy. Both generations are too fucking poor to invest and have no stake in it. Only the old ass boomers and Gen X care because they have pensions, 401K, IRAs, investments, etc. They will simply push in even more black and brown immigrants to correct it so "line go up" again.
>>545253774Post pics of your toilet with timestamp and try to describe what you believe stock is.
>>545251289Does this shit also contribute to GDP?
>>545253921What do you do for work? What are your monthly expenses?? Have you ever once in your life lived within your means and saved anything?
>>545254285non-sequiturTry again without using fallacies
>>545254509OK, my theory is you're struggling financially because you're unemployed, unemployable, and are a nigger with money. Try to refute this with evidence.
>>545251379It's gambling only for the low IQ small guys who buy small numbers of stocks. Jews just take your money and spend it. They don't lose any money when stock value goes down. The only one who loses money is you who spent 1000 dollars buying some stocks hoping to double your money. The jew just got your 1000 dollars and pocketed the money, while you sit there looking at the lines going up and down.
>>545254260Yes while muttoids will tell you some eyewashing lies even a collapsing U.S. stock market inflates the U.S. GDP.For example everytime Zognalds friends short the market and he starts some war all the broker fees, commission fees, transaction fees and the profit ie. stolen money being transferred into buying real property will boosts the GDP, ironically the defaulting on mortages and personal bancrupcies on the losing side will at net only increase the GDP further and not offeset the gains on the other side.
>>545254564>Everything I'm too stupid to understand is jewish kabala magic!I really can't imagine how you guys are struggling to achieve basic life miestones.
>>545251289tfw AI crashes but all your AI-heavy investments still have double-digit returns for the year
>>545254596I don't speak Hindi. Can you get your supervisor to translate that to English?
>>545254539Again, non-sequitur. Your replies have nothing to do with GENERATIONS of people. Instead of rebutting my post, you're personalizing it and attacking with assumptions and ad hominems. Congrats, you lost already. I accept your concession. Thanks for admitting I'm right and you're wrong. Filtered. Reply more, I'll never see it. I know you will, you people always keep replying.
>>545254627Retarded faggotThere is nothing magic about it. It's a pyramid scheme. They take your money and spend it. Then the people who paid money to get nothing wait for the next wave of ''investors'' to give money that will pay back for the money they spent. This goes on until no new investors are coming in to give money to the people cashing out.Mentally ill jew has to strawman it like anyone says it's magic when it's just giving money to a pyramid scheme. You are not as smart as you think you are, low IQ neurotic dysgenic inbred kike.
>NOOOO all these companies lost moneyThey'll just use it as an excuse to fire American workers and import more H1B pajeets for half the pay. You know it'll happen.
>>545254769You forgot to mention that if the company fails, they send their jews to the government to get bailouts, which they immediately use to give themselves huge bonuses.
>>545251289Stock market, financial capital, it's all fake
Don't know why you niggers are stressing. Just VOO and chill.And perhaps, keep an emergency fund in HYSA or T-Bonds.
>>545254798None of the companies lost money. You don't lose money from a graph going down.The price of the stocks went down. All it means is that it's a bad time to cash out and a good time to buy the stocks.The stocks of these companies go down all the time and then go up, but the general trend is always up because of stupid shit like 401k. People in America don't have pensions, they buy stocks, so the stock value will just go up.
>>545254749You're probably wondering how I knew you were unemployed and unemployable.>>545254769>They take your money and spend it. Then the people who paid money to get nothing wait for the next wave of ''investors'' to give money that will pay back for the money they spent.Wow, you seem really smart. Where did you learn all of that?
>>545254981How do most companies make "line go up"? By cutting expenses so their reports show a higher profit margin. What's the biggest expense? Workers. How do they all cut expenses? They fire American workers, import pajeets for half the pay, and make them work as much as they want.
>>545254981>the general trend is always up because of stupid shit like 401k.Wow, so my Exxon Mobil stock isn't going up because Exxon Mobil is realizing higher earnings but because "401K". I never really looked at it like that before.You guys are really smart.
>>545251600Actually the money only goes to the company on the first sale. The rest is just trying to influence the company so you can sell at a higher price, astrologically.
>>545255191You're still wondering how I know you've never held a job or left mommy's house and talked to adults in the real world.
>>545255243Yes, trooner
>>545255243actually yes. every biweekly payperiod is a small pump for the stock market because a bunch of automatic investments enter the market via 401K's, 403b's, Pensions and Insurance markets.this process has been rocket-fueled by the excess liquidity introduced post-COVID which had nowhere to go to stimulate productivity, and therefore was stored away in the market caps of already insanely skewed P/E ratio of Large Cap American companies.
>>545251379By nature of stocks, you are gambling that the Sun will come up tomorrow for your stocks to have any value.Everything is gambling.
>>545251289I fail to see the issue? It's working as intended.
>>545255455I see. So if 401Ks didn't buy stocks Exxon Mobile would not sell another drop of oil and all of their infrastructure would just vanish?This whole thing does sound like a ponzi scheme since you put it that way. What sort of investments do you suggest as more concrete?
Pension funds and other financial investments are all all fake. Wagies' feelings of selfishness and FOMO are being manipulated to prop up the slavery system. Since the AI psyop, they use wagies' faith in money to expand the most dystopian sort of surveillance.
>>545251379It's just investing.And like with all investments there are uncertainties and a risk of losing some or all of your invested money.Stocks can have huge swing in a short time span, so it can look like a casino.But over a long time span (5+ years) and taking the average of many stocks the swings are actually remarkably small.I would even go as far as saying over a very long timespan (20+ years) a varies stock portfolio is the safest way to store your wealth, safer than saving accounts, real estate, bonds or even gold/silver.
>>545256124>Everything I'm too stupid to understand is fake!What sort of investments do you make? How is that working out for you?
>>545253739>you are a VPN samefag says the memeflag kike
>>545256124It's partly FOMO, partly high cost of lending, and partly nothing concrete to invest in anymore (if you do not have a massive insider advantage).In order for me to build my personal palatial estate (a 5K sqft on 1 acre) on undeveloped land, I need to pony up 40% up front in escrow, for my county and builder to not immediately walk. For the $1 Million dollar home I want, that is $400K, well before any permits and licenses are filed.Ryan Homes (aka NVR), can easily undercut that start-up rate, pull any necessary initial liquidity from its sitting portfolio of property, and then charge me $1.25 Million for my own plan, at 7.5% interest.
wheres your economy?
>>545251289Casino keeps running...only winners and losers changing.
>>545255848Insane goy has lost they/their mindExxon mobile is going to sell oil no matter what. The infrastructure is there and if the infrastructure wasn't there, they make enough money to pay for anything.So what are the stocks paying for? What are you ''investing'' in when you buy their stocks? More people buying more Exxon stocks doesn't mean Exxon is going to sell more oil, your ''investment'' money just gets gobbled upThere is no actual investment. These companies do not need investment. The company will do just as good if their stocks are valued at 0. The price of stocks may go up due to good news that make people buy more stocks, but in general the stocks go up because people are ''investing'' in the stock market and most of the ''investment'' comes from 401k and people doing their own DIY 401k. Maybe Exxon isn't directly tied to 401k, I don't know, but it's in the same system and 401k is pushing up all the big stocks, which makes people more likely to buy other stocks to ''diversify their stock portfolio.''Without 401k the scam just doesn't work. Exxon stocks wouldn't go up and Exxon would just operate normally without selling stocks. The stock are only a scam that big companies can operate on the side.
>>545251289>KashiThat's short for kaljeet pooshit, right?
>>545251379It's a big shiny casino for goyim to put their savings in, with or without their consent. Jews play with your chips and also take the house cut.
>>545251379Stock share gives you voting priviledges (usually) at the shareholders meetings. Though this usually involves voting on which accounting firm you choose for managing stock.Recently however zuckerberg just had meta/facebooks stocks split and now issues shares which are non voting . This is so zuckerberg can stay in caliwali instead of move out due to the upcoming state regs on shares or something. That mousey economist chick on youtube explained it. the stock game is being dumbed down for the plebs who do just see the stock market as gambling and stripping you of rights as a shareholder. a share is a stake in a company and gives you voting rights in said company as a stake holder.
>>545251600Stock markets have always been speculative ... the oldest investment story in the book is tulip mania. The origins of "the stock market" were much more sinister than what you're proposing, it was a way for insurance underwriters to sham regular people to build boats so rich Dutch merchants could take their goods to further out markets, and it was a way for their investments to become secure if the ship sank. If a ship returned with a good profit then insurance was paid off and the investors got a small piece of the profits.
>>545254704Only 1 in the double digits still gains across every board.
>>545256924Kikes will get their cut regardless.What are your alternatives to stonks?>Sit on cashHyperinflation is already happening>Treasury Bondsevery contemporary Central Bank is currently insolvent at the same time>Precious metalsdo not exist at the rate that London issues certs>Real EstateProperty Tax and Maintenance albatross, that niggers can burn down at any time>Cryptooutright gambling susceptible to North Korean hackers>tldr: kikes won the game, gg no rethe cleansing flames of samsara will soon be upon us
>>545256795So stock isn't a representation of a "share" of equity in that company but just some imaginary token to gamble with?You seem very smart. What sort of investments do you hold and how's your return been the last few years?>>545256924>Everything I'm too stupid to understand is jewish witchcraft.>>545257046Wow, that's amazing. So when Exxon Mobile pays dividends it's just insurance payouts for sunk ships or selling tulips? You're really smart. What sort of investments do you keep?>>545257152>I'm going to just wait for the world to end then I'll somehow come out on top.How many more weeks do you suppose that'll be?
>>545257571Tranny losing his mind>So when Exxon Mobile pays dividendsThey pay the people cashing out with the money of people who are buying in. When investor money dries up they don't pay the dividends out of their pocket.The scam collapses when people want their dividends and new investors aren't paying money to pay them off.Every single one of your retarded arguments can be used to defend any pyramid scheme like Herbalife.
>>545257571>How many more weeks do you suppose that'll be?2 weekswhen Israhell and Trump double down on fighting Iran
>>545257729>They pay the people cashing out with the money of people who are buying in.Interesting. So they don't actually explore for, extract, refine, and sell oil and oil derivatives but just sell stock?You seem incredibly smart. Where did you learn all of this?>>545257753Best of luck to you with that.
>>545257571I was giving the historical aspect of the stock market. But now that you mention it, yes investors do pay a huge amount of their invested money into insurance for exxons shipping.
>>545258098I see, so XOM sells stock to me, uses my money to insure their shipping, then pays me dividends with tulips and insurance from sunken ships?This is incredible. I'd have never known that if I didn't come to 4chan today. Any hot investment tips for 2027?
>>545257571>So when Exxon Mobile pays dividendsThe money comes from slavery. They use wagies' money to fund the arms industry and war. Then they get to steal resources, the land, and enslave the population. All while wagies think they are smart and outplayed the system by being thrown some crumpled "magic" paper in front of them to use to consume the next product that advertisement implanted into their mind.
>>545258370I don't speak Hindi. Can you try that again in English and tell me what you invest your money into?
>>545258578Investing is demonic. Like gambling and drugs. You are endorsing demonry.
>>545257966>>Interesting. So they don't actually explore for, extract, refine, and sell oil and oil derivatives but just sell stock?What point are you even trying to make here? A company can provide a valuable product or service, but that doesn't automatically make it a good investment, nor does it mean that the stock price is a perfectly one-to-one representation of the actual market share and value of the products and services provided by that company. In many cases, stock price is driven only by speculation and the belief that the stock will continue to grow in the future. If the growth stops, then it becomes a shitty investment and the stock price goes down regardless of whether the company is still operating and making a profit or not.
>>545251289Based, I hope every single AI and AI-friendly company goes under
>>545258278You're fucking retarded. Why are you bringing up tulips? Do you even know what the tulip mania was? Or global shipping works? Stop pretending like you know what you're talking about. Go tip your broker because it's clear they do all the work for you and probably skimming money off you.
>>545251379Gambling short term, investment long term. Only boomers that are trying to retire are fucked. Young people like Kyle can buy these companies on the cheap and hold them long. In 20 years, it will grow a fuck ton.
>>545251289The fug is all that money coming from? I bet its just the same people withdrawing and depositing their money on a constant basis.
>>545251289The whole USA economy right now is Jewish and Indian CEOs from several AI companies circle jerking each others non stop, buying stocks in the others' companies in possible conflict of interests and no one doing anything about it because the US would go in an economic collapse worst than 1929 if they stopped and because all of the branches of the US government is owned by Jews
>>545258978>>545259040>>545260648>>545260939Hard to believe all you guys are seething poors what with all your deep esoteric understanding of financial markets.
>>545251289That's not the economy you fucking useless midwit.Holy shit I'm DONE with you guys. I wish I had a life outside of 4chan.The real economy aka affordability is awful. Both in the "richest country in the world" and in Europe. Because people are a sea of retards and due to democracy our leaders are corrupt retards.
>>545251289>$ added>$ wiped outthis isn't how it fucking worksfucking Indian retard doesn't know what these terms mean
>>545261149Both you and the comments you're responding to are all fucking retarded.>someone's complaining about the enshittification of my country, must be poor haha!That's youOne of the comments you're responding to is actually not retarded and seems to think logically. He must be sick of midwits. You of course can't tell which one.
>>545251289>NOOO NOT MUH MULTINATIONAL COPORATIONSDie in a fire, faggot.
>>545251289bullshit stats
