This was not survivable. >Pilot flew strait into an updraft of a 45,000 foot cell. Next time you complain about your airplane spending an extra 30 minutes going around a storm...now you remember why.
>>545339556> WOMAN PILOT
>>545339556Why did she chose to do this?I just inherently dont trust a woman pilot.Or a non-white one.
>>545339689which pilot do you trust more between the white woman and the non white male ?
>>545339689>Why did she chose to do this?Actually she requested a better route from ATC and this is where they sent her.
so we aren't even posting xitter screencaps anymore just posting the xeets verbatim?
>>545339689maybe she isnt from florida and didnt know that our thunder storms have a straight vertical updraft?pic related you will see in south florida right before it turns into a hateful thunderstorm.poor woman got clipped by thor raising his hammer for a strike.probably threa enough moisture on the plane to jam the controls and the oversped initial dive dropped surface temperatures far below freezing on the planes hull, if you freeze any metal hard enough it becomes brittle as clay, which is why the windforce likely ripped the rear stabilizer right off
>>545339805I'll trust the brown man over white woman.
>>545340076forgot pic
>>545339905It's a pilot's prerogative to say "negative on that route, the weather there isn't safe."It's his duty.A male one would have done so.
WOOP WOOPpull upWOOP WOOPpull upWOOP WOOPpull up
WOMAN MOMENT
>>545340117>It's a pilot's prerogative to say "negative on that route, the weather there isn't safe."You assume every airplane has the Weather Gizmo 9000, they do not. Its ATC's job to ensure planes get decent information or let them know they do not have the required equipment to give good advice.
>>545339556Pilot was male. She was hier co-pilot doing comm
>>545340076>>545340102air was -47 degrees, and she flew into the precipitation core
Can some physics fag explain to me how an updraft causes plane to turn into a air-ground missile, did it make a flip or something? Like I am 4 please.
>>545340399They're saying it's because the plane iced up which caused it to become uncontrollable.
>>545340399It’s cope. It was a women pilot> t. Flew in Brazil a lot during the rainy season
>>545340399see>>545340269the plane was flash frozen in seconds
>>545339805Id go with the black guy before the White female
>>545340399Ice covers the wings and locks up control surfaces.
>drives straight through the storm instead of going aroundWoman moment
>>545339805Both are deal breakers.
>>545340399at extreme low temperatures in a moisture filled cloud, moisture will collect on the wings and then freeze upon itself which eventually fucks lift. imagine a paper airplane, then distort the wings 90 degrees
>>545340770*if you don't have an operational anti-ice system activated*
>>545339805White men > Oriental men > Hispanic men > Middle Eastern men > White women > Black men > Oriental women > Hispanic women > > Black women > Indian men > Indian women
>>545339556I do enough ai-assisted analysis that I can tell this is Claude
>>545340399>Get in your car>Get on highway >Drive 160mph+>Quickly jeek wheel left or right>Report back
>>545339556Its the womans pilot fault. Dont fly into storms, foid.
>>545340565So you're saying she was retarded and flew into something she should not have?
>>545339805At least the white female pilot can give me a blowjob while we fall to our doom.
>>545339805Ill trust a man of almost any race over a white woman.
>>545339556With a proper co-pilot, better information and advice would’ve been relayed and the chances of survival of everyone would’ve increased dramatically.
>>545339556>woman pilotKek. I didn't even know that. I bet it was her fault. What, she flew the plane into a bit if wind? Awwwww.... There was a bit of a cloud there too? LMAO
>>545339805The non-white male.
>>545340211All private jets have WX radar. ALL OF THEM
>>545340907She'd bite your jamon right off, hombre. Then, when they publish the black box recording they're going to hear you ask for a blowie and blame the crash on you.
>>545340951She flew the plane into an updraft rather than taking a 15 minute detour. Not only that, but she didn't heat the plane's wings to prevent ice from forming as she DELIBERATELY flew into the updraft. Her wings got iced and the plane turned into a missile.
don't fly into updrafts
>>545339556>Don't blame the woman pilot>>Pilot flew strait into an updraft of a 45,000 foot cell.So... It Was the pilots fault? Why are you trying to avoid accountability on her behalf? You're simping for red mist you fucking spastic
>>545339805Unless the white woman is Hanna Reitsch herself, forget it.
women can't be pilots
>>545341084you can listen to the audio, air traffic control kept her on the path into the storm when she requested a re-route.
>>545340946What if she wasn't talking to him for no reason? >ma'am there's heavy weather ahead>....>ma'am I advise we divert immediately>...>ma'am we need to change course or we will...>ok, I get it, you know everything and I am stupid. Is that what you are saying?>ma'am, we need to...>well guess what, mr. man, I am the pilot, you are the co-pilot, you don't get to mansplain>MA'AM CHANGE COURSE NOW OR WE WILL... >and now you are screaming... Did you ever stop to think about how that makes ME feel?Oh, I can't wait for the voice recording. Also those Chinese robowaifus so I don't have to put up with women.
Guys for fucks sake she didn't fly the plane. The captain did named Jack.
>>545339556cause of death: stupid bitch
>>545341223Theres no voice recording. That black box is toast
>>545340117Ok but she probably said “well if this plane crashes it’ll be your fault” and hung up
>>545340993>All private jets have WX radar. ALL OF THEMlmfao retard found. That plane that crashed in Philadelphia in the same manner didnt even have audio recording from its blackbox because it was so old. Fucking retard naive shitbird welcome to reality, nothing is done right.
>>545340211every single plane has a tablet running whatever apps you want
>>545341164And a man and a competent pilot would have said "fuck your instructions we are doing what is safe""Under aviation rules, the pilot in command (PIC) has the final legal authority and can ignore, decline, or override an Air Traffic Control (ATC) instruction if following it puts the safety of the flight or passengers at risk"This obedient woman was too meek to trust her instincts and got everybody killed
>>545341297I've never seen a LJ60 that didn't have the WX integrated.
>>545341164Is that what she meant by asking for better rides?
>>545339805White female. People underestimate just how fucking dumb niggers are
>>545339556Why not completely avoid the 45,000 foot cell via radar?
>>545341272HEY YO CAPTIAN JACK BRING ME BACK TO THE RAILROAD TRACKGIVE ME A GUN IN MY HAND I WANNA BE A SHOOTIN' MAN
>>545341297There is a ZERO (0) percent chance that this foid didn't have an ipad in the cockpit. ALL bitches fly with apps.
>>545339689Crashing into Trump was that way
>>545341393The thing is is that white women are intelligent enough to know that they shouldn't fly a plane. Any white woman with >105 IQ is going to avoid flying a plane because she knows the limits of her abilities. The white female pilots you see are going to be barely smarter than the top 50% of nogs. If you see a black male pilot, it's highly likely he's ex-military and has flown a jet before.
>>545340399Rain and -47C causes the wings to ice which decrease lift of your wings due to turbulence starting at the front of your wings, along with the up/down drafts causing a deep stall (both the wings and tail stalls). This makes the plane nose over increase speed to where you can't recover and you plow into the ground. If you want a presentation on a similar crash here:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrtfUZRk5h4
>>545340117That's the gestalt of what happened in our latest train crash. Control gave him a stupid direction that contradicted protocol, conductor didn't say "that's retarded". Among other failures.
>>545340399>Like I am 4Hey buddy give me the phone back and go play duplos with your brother
>>545341292you are wrong. they found black box on site. this one.
>>545340896inexperienced would be the word I would have chosen she was following a flight path, how the fuck she supposed to know that path was going to take her right through the updraft core(which I already explained expands higher vertically than almost anywhere else) while she was already having icing issues?they also were likely unaware their rear stabilizer was no longer attached to the aircraft, hell she and the coal pilot might have managed to break the jam but without a tail stabilizer nothing they could do would matter.probably died, confused, wondering why the fuck she is doing everything she was trained to by men but that man made stupid craft just wouldnt raise the fucking nose despite restored wing controldied in terror, confused, and probably thinking of her chad but loyal boyfriend who will now feel guilty forever because he was supportive of her choices, and was too busy enjoying his freetime when this happened.now an entire white family is devasted but all you can do is act like a brown incel 13 year old
>every male on the planet"If your friends all jumped off a cliff would you do it too?">No that's retarded >Every female on the planet"If ATC tells you to fly a plane through an ice storm, would you do it">Yes bawss
>>545340399Aircraft flies into icing conditions > ice grows on the leading edge surfaces > airfoil design changes with ice > gets ragged > airflow separates > no longer have low pressure under and high pressure above > STALL > aircraft noses down during stall (appears to lean right per flight path) > airspeed gets faster > goes over placard limit for surface > whoops, elevator just ripped off > no more pitch control > oh fuck.jpg > call the ATC, cry we are crashing > PULL UP, PULL UP (jk, that wasn't heard) > BOOMThey lost their elevator due to an over speed from the stall. That made this event go from recoverable and controlled to "oh shit we gonna all die" uncontrolled flight.
If ice is such a danger to aircraft why aren't the wings and shit heated? If they can make heated mirrors and windshields surely an aircraft fuselage couldn't that hard right?
>>545339556
>>545341837>The pilot trusted atc over her instinct to fly around the storm>Everybody diedWell I guess being a few minutes late really was worth risking the lives of everybody on board
>>545341789At least that's better than when I asked my wife to explain the Lindsay Clancy trial to me like I was 5 and she started to strangle me.
>>545341915>"We asked 9 people if they trusted female pilots. You won't BELIEVE what happened next"
>>545341606Not really, most ex military guys are dumb as fuck even before accounting for race, meanwhile most white female pilots are top of the line white women. The white woman will be smart enough to know what to do but be as other anons pointed out too meek to push back when someone tells them to do something they know is wrong or panic and make a mistake. If you told a negro to do something incorrect they wouldn't be smart enough to know it was wrong and make mistakes in the same fashion. Tldr you really don't want either flying your plane but if you're going to be killed at least it should be by a nice attractive white woman. For me it's like choosing what car to be run over by, Id rather be run over by a Ferrari than an old beat up Cadillac. Seems more dignified
>>545341907>If ice is such a danger to aircraft why aren't the wings and shit heated?They are, along with (some) having an inflation system that will expand the leading edge and break up the ice and dislodge it allowing the slip stream to carry it off.
>>545341101>man told her to keep going straight despite req for rerou>man guided her right into a florida superdraft stormthe male in this audio call failed her.failed a white woman.because he was too weak and butthurt as a white male, like you, a hateful, passive aggressive incel who thinks he is entitled to women, probably hit on her last time she came through and she shut him down for being a creep on the job.and just like any bitter white incel he intentionally misguided her, and refused go perform a simple 15 mile circumvent route but thought making her go through some scary turbulence would "teach her a lesson"
>>545340399https://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/advisory_circulars/index.cfm/go/document.information/documentid/1028388Has all the answers
>>545342136I don’t know too many jets with boots. They typically just do hot wings. MAYBE some with TKS.
>>545339556youre both retardsthe incelsand the anti-incelspeace niggas
>>545339556>woman explaining they’re descending fast as fuck and going to crash imminently>tower control: uhhhh copy over lemme know whatcha neeeeed toots
>>545342183not clicking on that glownigger shit faggot
>>545340269do they not teach how to avoid this in flight school?
jesus it is fucking insane how shills flood this board when something like this happens to defend whatever woman or nonwhite caused itmy mind is literally full of so much fuck exploding in awe over just how dangerous and influential this place is to society/realityim just fukkendamn chillinfuck im literally losing the ability to lol ive been loling so much over the years and especially the last few weeksi love you anon
>>545342292maybe the ATC faggot was a troon?
>>545341341There simply would’ve been better dialogue between the two pilots and the ATC. Better decisions would’ve been reached quickly and made. Women panic and scream too fucking quickly and this raises the stress in nearby males and throws him off his game too. Before media became just one big propaganda campaign spreading lies about stone cold 90lb girl bosses, we’d often see the trope of the spazzing woman and the man having to tell her to shut the fuck up so he could think. That is real for anyone that has enough experience with women.
>>545339905she asked that once they were fhalfway through , AND the air traffic replied that she was outside his zone of control and free to choose if i understand corredyl https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ETrq-P0yNlothat plane has a radar hear the tone of her voice it was 100% an inompetent but attractive whore that got there explicitly to show boobs
>>545342156Mans eyes can't teleport. The regs are clear the pilot has final say and absolute authority over the safety of passengers.So your argument is essentially that a man failed to tell this woman how to do her job.
>>545342414r u ok rabbi?
>>545339805Both are DEI hires so it's a coin toss.
>>545342273Yeah, I was just mentioning it.
https://www.palladiummag.com/2023/06/01/complex-systems-wont-survive-the-competence-crisis/
why were they flying into a thunderstorm in the first place? i dont get it
>>545340076Why was she flying so high in shitty weather?
>>545342156link to this audio?
>>545342183Does it? There's no way to know if she encountered supercooled precip or HIAC, if it was HIAC it's even possible it clogged her sensors and she pitched up and stalled
>>545341997>New pilot, not wanting to fuck up her jobI mean in the end you are right, but maybe she like most women know fuck all about cloud watching or storm watching.the updraft at her altitude would not be a visible cloud, I am not kidding that florida updrafts go way higher and harder than anywhere else which is why it virtually every Hurricanes Love Rock Cafe parking lot lol.ignorance killed herand ATCs ignorance.I lived in SW florida for years, every pilot commericial or private gets their craft the fuck out of dodge when storms form up near the coastline.if that ATC man was a florida resident he should be investigated because he should have strongly advised her to take a reroute.her parents will hear that call and they are going to demand answers, I hope it was the new guy because he seriously fucked up, he is eyes on the ground and walked her right to her death over the radio.
>>545342547was just about to post this. thanks for saving a few seconds
Kek. I know a girl that drove straight into a snow plow going 75. Closed casket.
>>545339556>plane crashes suspiciously close to Trump >official cause: the storm You can't make it up.
>>545342078White women will never notice you exist.
>>545339556stop letting women be pilots
>>545342427the bitch was outside the inmediate vecinity of miami international airport, as seen in these blue circles and she wasnt on approach to the airport . not a pro in this shit and i always ignore atc play in flight simulators , outside the inmediate vecinity as seen in this image blue circles you are kind of in control of the situation ifyou are a pilot and just inform your movements to atc, or obey them if they force you to change altitude to avoid another plane
>>545339556>This was not survivable.it is highly common for the copilot to do the bulk of the hands-on weather gathering, analysis, and planning as part of pre-flight preparation.
>>545340399Icing. The learjet in particular completely loses pitch control if the tail surfaces are iced.At that point, the plane became a missile.
>>545339805I think I'd only pick the woman if I knew she was autistic. A genuine diagnosis not TikTok autistic.
Iran doesnt even need to send missiles towards the states, air traffic control has it in the bag
>>545339689pilot in training here. when you get caught in a supercell, the plane basically becomes a paperweight from the rapid formation of ice. by the time the plane hit the ground, it was traveling at 10,000 feet per second, which is mock 9. they were dead before they hit the ground from the g forces alone.
>>545342594If you listen to the longer recording, she talks about getting ice and turbulence, requests 370, and then mentions she’s in precipitation. If that was liquid, which it could be in a CB updraft, that’s gonna be a very bad time. SLD threat is one of the fastest ways to catch ice, especially in unprotected areas.
>>545342628Apparently ice crystal plumes are invisible on radar, she flew into a plume of frozen ice?
>>545341907commercial crafts do. this is some shitty private jet.
>>545342815Go ask your CFI what the g load on an unaccelerating plane at terminal velocity is.
>>545342449>The regs are clear the pilot has final sayand her final say was to listen to and trust the voice on the radio knowing what he was doing.>muh eyes cant teleportyou telling me you cant as an Air Traffic Controller download an app called myweather to get live weather radar anywhere you fucking want and maybe use that to make better calls to pilots with less time for distractions like checking an app to see they were riding into the violet and maybe reroute them safely around it?please dont ever consider this a field or career for yourself, I would rather two stoned but trained common sense niggers on the other end of that radio than you abbo incel.
>>545340399plane very coldupdraft they flew through very warmvery cold air no have much moisture, means almost no icevery warm updraft have many much moisturemoisture condense and freeze to cold surfaceplane turn into brickbrick no fly goodplane have parts make turn goodwhen go too fast, parts make plane turn good break off planeplane turn into bigger brickplane crash now, nothing to be doneneed not fly into magic cloud that turn plane into brick
>>545340100If you look brown people always driving taxis and Ubers so they are genetically designed to ferry humans around .I am actually from indian parents but I mean I can see that that is what they are are. servants or serf class{
>>545342464its all in vain frenyou really gotta try real hard to figure out the path forward to say that its over for you people is an understatement gud luck desu
>>545342589other threads, twitter have it.
>>545342741I'm married faggot. My wife is white. Im against race mixing but see no issue with people moving to a nonwhite country to race mix there. In fact it should be encouraged so whites can get some white towns setup outside white countries once our governments make violent genocide official policy instead of just unofficial policy. Same as Asians made chinatowns in America and such
>>545342946Ah wrong thread lmao. Anyways I'm pro white woman
>>545342905If she was getting hit by supercooled updraft precip thats no Bueno, wish there was an on board cam. Talk about flying casket
>>545342905indian living in america >>545342913indian living in japan
>>545342638You're welcome, anon.
>>545342815you didnt answer why they chose to fly into the storm though, >>545342563
>>545342815Fugg.... Ty Mr pilot fren.
>>545342990canadian (implicitly indian)
>>545342547Nice. Has been a subject this board has talked about. Though now it’s mainly a shitposting board.
>>545343032I dont think youre ever supposed to no
>>545342078You think guys who are smart enough to be selected to fly fighter jews are dumb? Holy simp
ill just wait for pilot defrief guy makes a video about it with all the steps simulated, and blames all for incompetence will being very sorry for the family of the deceased that he blamed for being incompetetent dangerous niggers
>>545339805in a life or death situation flying a fucking airplane? any sort of male over a woman
545342990(you)
>>545342903>her final say was...Wrong. And everybody died.>you telling me you cant as an Air Traffic Controller download an app called myweather to get live weather radarI'm telling you that ATC has less information than the pilots which is why the pilots have final say on passenger safety. ATC has broad information about a sector, with general meteorological data, radar and pilot reports. The pilot have actual icing, visibility and onboard realtime radar.That's why the pilot has final say. That's why the pilot has ultimate authority and judgement over the safety of everybody on board. I'm in a different field where my judgement decides people's fate.Stop simping for red mist you fucking spastic. She's not going to suck your dick, her jaw is atomised
>>545339556Despite being only 10% of pilots, women and minorities are responsible for 60% of pilot incidents
The wikipedia article for this seems to be a bit... odd.
>>545342589>audiothe foid is squealing like she saw a spider. the pilot probably nose dived into the ground so he could get some peace.
>>545343088They're flying bus drivers. No I'm not impressed.
>>545342837Ice and moist humidified updraft.and she likely dipped into the draft, at an already -47 degrees hull and at that air friction speed that would instantly form a layer over the important and most weak areas of the craft, its possible it even choked up the engines and controls and if the draft was forceful enough it might of snapped off the rear stabilizer that instant.seen that air race in Rino crash, pilots tail stabil came off and he went right up into the sky around and nosed straight to the field, never stopd a chance, apparently those little back wings are really fucking important
>>545340399>Like I am 4 please.plane needs to go fastupdraft fucks with going fastice fucks with going fastplane becomes unhappyice prevents pilot from making the plane happyplane becomes very unhappysum ting wong wi to low ho le fuk bing bang ow
>>545342762again, she wasn't flying the fucking plane dumbass. it was the male captain piloting. so ask him why he did what he did
>>545342905>brick no fly good
if it wasn't the discombobulator it was a traffic control fail
>>545339556reminder we would be behind china in ai if the democrats had won the 2024 presidential election
>>545340076>>545340102even the most braindead 70iq jeet wouldnt fly into that shit. this was another yas queen slay girlboss at work.
>>545340636the accumulating ice can simply fuck up the aerodynamics of the wing, it doesn't need to jam the elevators to make the plane uncontrollable.
>>545343184>I'm telling you that ATC has less information than the pilotsLMAO
>>545340269damn, even Canadian planes aren't built for that
>>545343359>even the most braindead 70iq jeet wouldnt fly into that shitnice try deepak
>>545343267Where is the source claiming she wasn't the pilot? Is it so inconceivable that she, as the one talking on the radio, was in fact the pilot?
>>545343400It's fine, if she bumped that bitch up to mach 1.1 it would have melted the ice. Woohoo
>>545343396You genuinely believe ATC has more information about the exact situation the aircraft is facing don't you?I can't tell if you're genuinely retarded or it's just gr8 b8
>>545343505In a two person crew, there is a Pilot Flying and a Pilot Monitoring. The PF exists solely to control the aircraft. The PM does radios, pulls the gear, and flap levers, or whatever else the PF requests. I don’t believe Lear 60s are certified for single pilot ops, either.
>>545343234You are a fat retarded brown. Show your real flag
>>545343551>moves goalpoststhey have more information than the pilot about the weather they are flying towards stop trying to be disingenuous you retard
Checked flightradar's csv, it shows that it peaked at 580 knots which is 667mph or 1073kmh, with the highest recorded rate at 47,248 ft/min, just shy of going supersonic
>>545343511do we even know anything about the other 7-8 people? its kinda nonsense that she's the only one mentioned at this point, flight logs are everywhere, are they hiding them?
>>545339556so your telling me you have this radar data, but not the billion dollar company who flys?
>>545339805I'd pick the darkest nigger from Africa to fly a plane over a female pilot any day
>>545343887the only reason I am ignoring the conspiritards at the moment is because I am waiting on the list of passengers so I can see if anyone of them might of had an enemy with a ATC in their pocket.
>>545339905I think the pilots requested it twice.
>>545343967it was mentioned in another thread.it is an aircraft maintenance company
>>545339556>woman pilot does stupid shit in fair weather aircraft>stop blaming the woman pilot!Interesting angle, OP. When did you learn you were a faggot? Right now?
>>545343796There was no moving goalposts you spastic, you're just simping for red mist which is why you keep wheeling out "muh incel". You're attacking the character instead of the argument from your first comment.>>545342156>>man told her to keep going straight despite req for rerou>>man guided her right into a florida superdraft stormThe facts are that the flight crew reported turbulence and icing, and requested a climb to 2000 ft. Nobody commanded her to fly straight, that was the decision of the flight crew who was, according to the regs, responsible for the safety of everybody on board. Come back with a link to ATC showing she was ordered to fly into that shit and I'll accept I was wrong, until then you're simping for red mist
>>545339556A male pilot would have known not to fly into it.Dumb bitch prob killed them all with her ego thinking she could get instagram points by bragging after.
How retarded do you have to be to not see this is a staged event like always?>maybe this is the calm before the stormThey just showed you what will happen when you enter the storm>And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.>Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.
>>545343987>>545343999>>545344070>>545339805Dunno about pilots but ...East asian women have the reputation of being the worst car drivers. But Pajeets are involved in more rekt accidents
>>545343999Why didn't the cell check its privilege
>>545339556Women Pilots are fine until something goes wrong. Modern aircraft pretty much fly themselves until they don't, that's when you need a man in the cock-pit.
>>545343993fair enuff anon, im scared shitless of flying so i like to learn more about the mundane shit to desensitize myself a biti am absolutely not flying to miami this year specially with super el niño active and the itcz band at full roar atm
>>545343359she didnt fly into the storm, storms dont come from 25000 feet or even 35000 feet up in florida, they are more like 2000 feet maybe upwards near 5 at best.in some places they look only to be like maybe 1200 feet above ground the updraft however, rockets high, which is why even blip former storms in florida can be so suddenly violent for a minute.the updraft has an invisibile range far beyond the clouds reach and this is what gives the storms their spike in energy.that was a coast to coast cellshe is likely new at her job and had never gone over one so large, and she only took that route because despite a double request on the reroute the ATC insisted she was ok, because nogger was browsing on his phone probably trying to get laid or playing tang luck casino instead of watching the wether radar and seeing he was sending her right into the shit center of its violet on the thermal
>>545342156This. Fuck incels. Probably the richfag's assistant gobetween was closet incel too and pressure her to keep going as well. She was hot.
>>545340211>Its ATC's job to ensure planes get decent informationNoYou are a retard
>>545339805i want to watch both of them fuck
>>545344416You're telling me she couldn't see she was flying into a two mile high above the clowd layer cell?
>>545344115>There was no moving goalpostsum yes there was, I said he had more digital information about the weather, air traffic and everything else than the pilots do because he works in an ATC center you stupid fuck, this isnt the 1940s you niggerbrained mutt, she isnt a bleeping green dot on a radial map screen.ATC monitors weather as well on the flightpath of the pilot they are communicating with, you pretending otherwise is the most retarded shit ever, and the fact you tried to specify the claim by claiming he would need magic eyeballs to see her craft were flying over a large storm with a heavy and hot violet updraft is complete goalpost moving.you then pretending he would need a visual on her exact situation from her POV to have the simple common sense to advise a route away from the path of the storm is somehow what you meant is laughably cringe.fuck off abbos, I already know you are a bitter mutant
>>545342589I'll summarise it for you>pilot; I'm gonna crash>ATC; Roger that>pilot; ahhhh!!!>ATC; plane copy?
>>545339556wouldnt the job of the supersmart and superawesome woman be to tell the retarded man to not fly in the storm? wouldnt that have been the best prevention? why couldnt she do it? off course she didnt care, like women always do. she just "did" without thinking, as usual.
maybe the guy wanted to die because he had to fly planes with this fucked in the head woman.
The only plausible scenario is that the pilot was getting a blowie and they were completing ignoring the radar
>>545344651And we're back to >The man failed because he didn't tell the woman how to do her jobMaybe he just assumed the woman knew what she was doing when she flew directly into the draft above the storm after she requested to fly there.The pilot bears final responsibility for the safety of the passengers anon no matter how many times you repeat the contrary
>>545344700>>545344747>I didnt come to these threads to discuss what happened or who is responsible, I just hate foids go back to /r9k/ and take that cringe aussie jeet with you
>>545342815>mock 9
>>545344815see>>545344853
>>545339556Why didn't the woman pilot fly around the storm? According to you if was fuck-huge.
>>545344815Autopilot was flying straight into the storm why didn't autopilot do anything
>>545342020kek
>>545344853aussie jeet is an oxymoron
>>545342815>10,000 feet per secondthe plane would have been molten goo before hitting the ground at that speed retard
>>545342020lmao
>>545339556This is the only updraft a woman needs to be prepared to experience
>>545344920>aussie jeet is an oxymoronso is christ kike but that doesnt stop your flag from spamming it here daily, welcome to /pol/ tourist
>>545340636Why didn't she use her GHD hairdryer to melt the wings?
>>545339805non-white male
>>545339556>what is mach trimHuge problem for these planes. I used to work on them (a similar design, not this one in particular). Once they start diving, they quickly break the mach barrier, and turn into an uncontrollable lawn dart. It can even happen in a shallow descent with these planes. These planes have a warning and an automated system to control the speed, but these systems are ancient. Any number of things can go wrong with them and the pilot must act quickly to avoid it.
>>545339556Every is laughing at you ai slop.
>>545340636The plane was equipped with a super advanced anti-ice functionality that runs boiling hot water through the wings so the ice can't form. She just didn't turn it on.
>>545339556The fuel froze
>>545345133Why dont all commercial jets have afterburners so they can penetrate nature instead of being pussies>>545345191Solved the fucking icing problem though didn't it
>>545345133one of the dead hands found was really thick and fat, looked like the kind of hands you would see on a 50 year old heavy breathing cigar smoking mogul.if they had simply snuffed him and spread his fat on the hull and wings pre takeoff the plane would have bee insulated from even the fiercest cold.
>>545342813This is the level I got stuck on in Flight Simulator.
>>545339556>Plane flies into stormy weather>Hits an updraft which pushes the plane up 500 feet in a few seconds>The violence from the turbulence rips the horizontal stabilizers clean off>Ability to control the pitch of the aircraft lost>Plane starts going into a dive>Try to pull up but can't because the control surfaces were ripped off>Control of plane is lost>Diving straight into the ground at 350 mph from 35,000 feetThis is Bermuda Triangle type shit. Countless planes and ships that have been lost without a trace probably went out in a similar way. Fuck.
>>545345251holy shit>they were at the best possible limit available before it froze.>ice was already creeping the hull>get hit by hot moist updraft >evaporative cooling physics on frozen plane come into play>tfw you just became an ice coffin in the sky and your fuel lines are all iced up
>>545342815>pilot in training here>its just bunch of retarded gibberishMeta social commentary. I applaud your effort.
>>545342815they were unconscious but not dead prolly
>>545339556>flew into itSo it was her faultkek
>>545345383>350 mph from 35,000 feetit was around 600 according to a source I readthat is why there is a crater and the asphalt road is blown to chuncks around it.it is likely with that amount of force drove the heavier parts of the plane underground, essentially burying them and the force of impact plus explosion shredded and burned up what isnt buried
>>545339805Sometimes the best choice is not to play.
>>545339805False dichotomy, I don't board the flight.
>>545345383Don't fly into storms. Truly a stupid bitch.
>>545342815>10k feet per min not per second. Retard.
>>545339805turban cab driverI havent flown for over 8 years, and this shit is why, safest way to travel my ass, sure statiscally?but on the road, I have a lot more chances at being able as a passenger to make choices that I will survive with higher chancesfailure at 35,0000 robs you of any out if anything goes wrong, would rather enter the octagon with two pairs of knuckle dusters on PayPerView against a clone of the bear that killed Timothy Treadwell, I will take my chances with a grizzly
you gotta admit it was REALLY close, and by the path it seems like the angle of descent made it so it missed Trump holy shiet
>>545345564600 mph makes sense. I was converting 30,000 feet per minute to mph
>>545345802pic i found onlinejeezus
>>545339556>fuck caution! we gotta get these rich folks there on time!somebody fucked up
>>545345802>tiny brained jeets hired by iran to hijack plane flew it into draft and fucked up suicide "drone" missionlel
>>545345430/pol/ solves the mystery once againhaven't seen anyone else mention these factors
>>545345851did it really turn as it fell?that must have been when the tail stabi came off
>>545342815speed doesn't equal acceleration>pilot in trainingjesus
>>545345916kinda weird that we dont hear a peep from the pilot during the whole call no? its just the FO girl and somebody praying nearby>>545345991yes this dude explains it pretty wellhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8Gjk4rTNaQ&t=715s
>>545339556So... she flew into a deadly storm? Okay that seems completely reasonable. I would never blame it on the female operator.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YA9IOMsTLOc
>>545339556>Stop blaming the woman pilot>>Pilot flew strait into an updraftUh, anon...
>>545345989>haven't seen anyone else mention these factorsmost tard anons are caught up in making it political or a foidslop thread./pol/ always comes around within a week or two unless agenda shills are ordered to shit up the truth.
>>545346050pilot was managing the ice factor by having copilot ask for reroute and then saying he was going to bump up or down to deal with it when copilot on radio mentions sudden precipitation(updraft already hitting them with hot, florida 80% humidity sticky swampnuts air) the next comm after that is their total loss of control and sudden nosediving. he was letting her do the talking while his boomer ass was probably trying to unjam the craft from the ice without being any the wiser his tail stabilizer was already gone and there was nothing he could do to stop what was coming in that shitty luxury "looks over ability" craft.
>>545339805Specify the male retardation before asking such a question. With women I automatically know they have a lack of awareness and are unable to handle any critical situation in a non-retarded or too slow way, with men I don't know at which thing they're retarded. Both may or may not have ego problems as well.
>>545345777
>>545346167>updrafts are visible things that magic radar can detect plane about to fly throughI now know why you balkanized and subsequently became the poorest slavs in the world.lol
>>545339689I’m a retired controller (Boston Center) and I remember when the FAA implemented the “Train To Succeed” program. Instead of failing the trainee who couldn’t check out in the allotted training hours, they just kept giving them more hours of training. After I left, Obama really slashed standards. Now the FAA is perplexed why operational errors are on the rise.
>>545346349isnt the immediate release of the audio also highly suspicious? ive never had crash audio this quickly before, and there's been several small plane crashes lately
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>>545346417Whatever nigger, 9 fewer amerimutts already means the world got a tiny bit better today, I don't really care about updrafts, downdrafts, or any other drafts except the one I'll enjoy watching when you finally fuck up too much in Iran and are all pulled into the meatgrinder
>>545346512the audio was from clear-air ATC radio comms, you can literally tune into your local airport's ATC channels with any radio capable of receiving the frequencies and hear the same thingit's not the cockpit voice recorder
>>545341459https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXJZqXw8PVY
>>545341016I've seen that fighting style before. That's the dancing platypus. Notorious in some of the more obscure Southwest east Asian countries.
>>545346512stop trying so hard
>>545342815They were only going about 600 mph. Similar to learjet 55 Pennsylvania crash in 2025. The passengers and pilots likely experienced negative G force, at most 1G. Learjets have extremely poor recovery capability, it is very easy to achieve an irrecoverable bomb dive.
>>545346557>seething Iran tranny on vpn
>>545346512it was from publically available commssome sperg likely looked it up to download before anyone at the ATC website thought to maybe lock that shit downonce it was all over twitter what was the point.anons are adapting to memoryholing techniques bt fedsthey know when a happening happens and where to get the logs that they have maybe an hour to find this shit before glowniggers and PR managers try to shit it downATC channels are available to listen to online on non military airwaves, outside of any government emergency orders, most the time its just boring shit, occassionally someone posts some pilot talking shit to the ATC or vice versa over a misunderstood call and its hilarious, but rare.I had a baofeng after hurricane Ian and I used flight radar and open channels to contact the pilot of a plane that kept circling fort myers(private aircraft) to ask for details on a visual, I knew that FT Myers beach was gone before it hit the news
>>545346557>I come to american websites to seethe at americans who could buy and sell my mothers pussy and house 9 times over before they reached the limit of their bi weekly mcwagie paycheck.lol ok
>>545343757 From the AI native to the Brave browser...>That said, it's not an absolute rule. The PF can also key the mic when needed (e.g., an urgent call, or if the PM is occupied with something else), and some crews work it differently. But the default expectation is: PM talks, PF flies, and both pilots are listening to the radio at all times
>>545346920good job anon! we need more ppl like u
>>545339805i would trust the white woman over brownseveryone choose different is brown
>>545344272Probably busy mansplaining Nazi ideology to little children,
>>545342565I need to get to my 6 ‘oclock at Jiro’s for my sushi bomb you blue collar dreg. Fly plane now.
>>545346173the truth always comes outalso I pulled the satellite data over florida around that time. the car dashcam footage says 1:51pm in Orlando, which is 4:51am Aussie time.crazy cloud formations directly over her route to freeport.and right around that time people in florida are saying they see high amounts of chemtrails in the sky, unusual clouds forminghttps://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy_commons/comments/1xlchnc/third_consecutive_day_of_the_united_states_being/not tryna get too schizo, all I'm saying is I'd like to know exactly who was on that flight
>>545346555checked. was the pilot hot?
>>545340076>our thunder storms have a straight vertical updraft?Is that what keeps knocking out my grow lights? Is this like some weather version of a riptide?
>>545347218>was the pilot hot?A couple hundred degrees minimum, from what I saw in the video
>>545339556kind of a lot of 17s, 45s, and 47s huh?.. like obi wan kenobi's old nigger ass once said, only imperial Storm-troopers are so precise
>>545339556This reminds me of that reporter chick who was reporting on the massive line of semi trucks waiting for the flood waters to drop so they can cross a bridge. Suddenly she gets in the car and attempts to cross the bridge, she instantly gets washed off creating a massive rescue effort to save her dumb ass. Her reason for crossing was she wanted to wait on the other side to capture the trucks crossing the bridge when they were able. This wasn't some little flood it was a known flood plain and the amount of water would wash a tank off the bridge..
>>545347266checked and based
>>545345430This anon probably just solved the NTSB report
>>545339805asian pilots are usually pretty goodAND NO YOU FUCKING RETARDS IN THE EU INDIANS ARE NOT ASIANS
>>545340100This>>545340211The ATC was distractex because of israels war. Holy breaking Bad meme magic
>>545347192>and right around that time people in florida are saying they see high amounts of chemtrails in the sky, unusual clouds formingyou think she might of gotten a little Harped?early november is an unusual tome of year in South Florida for such intense thunderstorms, especially large ones unless it is an unusually hot fall.I spent 6 almost 7 years in SW florida and usually by october its cooler but almost no storms
>>545347591usually you'd be right but this scenario has been in the forecast due to the crazy el nino we've been having all year
>>545339556>at its own altitudeAI slop writing
>>545340399>Like I am 4 please.They didn't solve the icing problem like Iron Man.
>>545339556Autistic foid here. Both parents worked in the airline industry. There wasn't much of anything she could have done to save the plane in that scenario. I'm more interested in whether or not she was responsible for the error of flying into the updraft. Even if you're a woman, it should be obvious that you shouldn't that. It points to someone else accidentally guiding her into it. Not ruling out personal error, this one isn't giving me DEI vibes but I could be wrong, maybe she really was retarded. >Should women be pilots?Copilots maybe, but I'd still trust a male pilot over a female pilot. It depends on the individual but as a whole we are way less equipped to handle life or death stressful situations where thinking rationally is important. So a woman can fly a plane fine until something goes wrong, and when it goes wrong she will be much less adept at fixing the situation.
>>545347192I can confirm I have been seeing chemtrail shit in my Floridian skies
>>545344170>calling anyone else retarded when you regurgitate jewish gobbeldygook
>>545347778also possibility is pilot suicide
>>545347778>Autistic foid here.
>>545344853>29 posts by this massive faggot simpget the fuck off my board captain save-a-hoe
>>545340896>So you're saying she was retarded and flew into something she should not have?The pilots that live fly when the weather is good. The pilots that die fly on a schedule.
>>545347241clouds explode upward in florida like mushrooms before they become small but dangerous thunderstorms and so do the bigger cellsbut even the little ones can be dangerous and according to this video >>545347192she must have tried menuevering around one but got snapped by another "popup" vertical storm.I call it "popcorning" because alot of time storms will pepper areas in small cells before moving on and fading while a larger one grows.>be me on lumber yard forklifting job>see little clouds over gulf blowing their heads up like puffy white yakubs>tell my boss we better get this giant order of lumber bundles put away inside the warehouse and finish counting them there.>he asks if I am sure they are coming this way>I check my weather app>its coming right for us, less than 10 minutes before its on top of us>me and 3 other forklifters scrambling with our big cat and toyota(me) forks to get all the bundles we were having a nice hot afternoon counting stacked in an open row inside.>storm grows outward to reach us 4 minutes early>I am now squinting through the downpour and flinching from the thunderous, violent and danger close lightning strike knowing the statistics that people get hit more by lightning in florida than anywhere globally.>finish getting the last bundle in>my pants are soaking wet and I survived another florida sea storm and thors drunken bolt castingI usually take a small break to smoke after that when I worked there.fun times.you know how usually you have to be way under the outer wing of the storms everywhere else before intense thunderbolts start getting shared a little?well in florida, those fuckers can reach a mile from their shadowline, and oh do storms in florida love to cast lightning spell like a spamming teenager.
>>545341292The voice recording was already released, Anon. Look it up.
>>545345106>the gigantic simping faggot is also a christkikelmao that tracks. christkike isn't an oxymoron, christianity is jewish you absolute fucking retard.
>>545339556Maybe the stupid whore shouldve paid more attention in class instead of scrolling instagram. Now rot in hell bitch.
>>545348117That's not the black box, my nig
female idiocy and incompetence confirmed then?
>>545347778The recording would have you believe they either flew in in their own or where directed into it. They seemed pretty chill with the fact they were about to die right up until they realized they fucked up and were about to make the news.99ers and all that.
>>545341837This is them? Her "chad" boyfriend has a suspicious nose shape. I'm betting she had a nose job.
>>545348145>ellis island jewish slur for being anti christ is not an oxy moron to hyphenate with those who follow Himthere it is, that tiny brain at work again
>>545348167You said there was no voice recording, but there is. It's a female copilot (assumably) telling air traffic control that they were dropping 20k feet per minute and that they were going to hit the ground. She wanted to increase altitude but ATC told her no. Then they tried to bank to regain control but they were iced over and just dropped out of the sky. The end of it is her saying "we are out of time"
>hurr durr WOMAN PILOT>she wasn't even the one flying the planebut /pol/ will continue their thirdie-tier, woman-hating narrative
>>545342903She could have just did like that hero pilot who landed on the hudson and made the call to save everyone's life.
why do I give a shit about rich people falling out of the sky? the atc recording gave me joy imagining the rich fucks in the back thinking "this can't be happening to me, i'm rich".
>>545348397brother that's an over-the-air ATC communication not the black box recording
>>545348482which is just as good as a black boxis a black box going to tell us if the rear stabilizer fell off like what was clearly deduced by anons with eyes looking at the slow mo or still photographs?
>>545342563The first officer was supposed to be managing the WX and she was too busy slobbing PIC knob to see that they were going straight into a cell
>>545348537t. Doesn't know how cameras mosaic
>>545348323>muh made up jewish slur from a made up jewish story Christkikes are so fucking retarded lmao. That ellis island story is a jewish forgery, it was only real in the mind of the jew who made it up.
i just want the names...
>>545348398once an anon posts his crybaby bs on /r9k/ with 3 posts or more they should be IP logged, fingerprinted, and never allowed to infect other boards with their spiteful mutant takes
>>545339556>Flies to the core of a storm>Stop blaming the woman pilot!1!1!1!1!
>>545348664>nooo saaar kike means what us tranny say it means, kike is trans word can mean something else story behind sluur false saarlol fuck off until you can do ten curls with a baby jamboy
>>545339905The captain of a plane is supposed to make the final call and it is not uncommon for a pilot to say no to a route and request alternatives. I'm not even a pilot and I would at least ask before flying into a supercell lmao do female pilots really need permission to have survival instincts?
>>545348397if you turn it up enough you can hear a guy praying in the background
>>545344909>when you forget to tell Claude "make no mistakes"
>>545347778Nah, it's all dumb luck whether someone survives life or death scenarios. Sorry you hate your own gender though. That must suck for you.
>>545344898>If the thread doesn't reach the conclusion I want it to reach if was racist all alongOk so you didn't come here to learn anything you just wanted to simp for red mistNoted. Well just in case you're still confused about the matter, the pilot bears final responsibility for the safety of passengers. Caio!
>>545347778Honestly I would trust a White male non-pilot to fly a plane over a 'qualified' female pilot. The idea of women being airline pilots is actually quite embarrassing. Women don't understand how they are perceived by men (basically just quite dumb and not on our level).
>>545349229>nooooo you are the one trying to make it reach a narrative you want(truth) I am simply posting like an /r9k/ anti white shill foidslop kike because ummmmmmtiny brains run into trains
>>545349480You said so yourself anybody flying in the area knows not to fly into the updraft above the storm which is exactly what the pilot didThe pilot bears final responsibility for the safety of the passengers anon
>>545349636>You said so yourself anybody flying in the area knows not to fly into the updraft above the stormyeah locals,not the dumb pilot from pozztinlearn to read patel
>>545339805Woman dont have depth perception. The plane was already in the storm before she realized it.
>>545349680So the pilot didn't familiarise themselves with the safety hazards that they may encounter en route to their destination?
>>545349697wow this anon knows something most do notwomen lack that part of the brain that uses spacial reasoning, it is why they park so terribly
>>545348757>can't argue with the truth>copes about boogeymen insteadLeave it to a christkike to think jews are telling the truth LMAO
>>545349764the ATC bears responsibility for refusing to give a woder route, see >>545347192ATC assured the pilot they would be fine continuing present coursepilot dodged one storm and ran smack into the middle of another one.ATC should have advised on the sudden blowup of a massive samdbar wide storm and given a route outside of its perimeter entirely.why do you care so much to blame only one side in this?was the fuckup ATC your cousin?
>>545349903>its true because I said it is!tiny brains run in front of trains :)
>>545349911Oh so ATC was also a woman? Figures. Probably Quanteefa of D'Luxxerous. Probably had they mind on they keeeeeeds, I ain't talking to this bitch I gotta feed little Glocktavius his daily bowl of corn flour
>>545349967see>>545344853
>>545349911I asked you before for a link to the atc telling the woman to fly her plane into a supercell and you piked out. Have you changed your mind?
>>545350011>he hasnt listened to the audio this entire timeKEKAROOOOO
>>545341353Yes.
>>545350011https://youtu.be/v5dfFoZ_fuQ?t=136You can see her flying straight into the storm after being told by ATCrip thread it was a good one
>>545350010Well no, you still shouldn't have women flying planes. Just because people hate women politically, doesn't mean they can fly. If you're so upset by men seeing patterns then I guess that means you are just a bitch and you definitely shouldn't be flying planes.
>>545350370>you still shouldn't have women flying planesshe wasnt, it turns out.you got psyoped like a rube johngoodluck in life kid, you are gonna need it
>>545350427Turns out that the decades-long experiment of jew daycare was not a good idea and to nobody's surprise, women shouldn't be flying planes. Who knew?
>>545340399You know how sometimes you get rain with little bitty drops and sometimes you get rain with great big drops in storms? The big drops were ice just above the ground and melted before they could split. Up in a strong thunderstorm there's a fuck ton of water cycling around frozen (because it's cold in the middle of them. Plane flies into big column of ice droplets like a giant flagpole on a winter day. All that ice sticks to the plane. Now instead of weighing X the plane weighs X+ice and those wings and stabilizers that cut smoothly through the air are covered with rough ice, so the wind pushes on them in new ways. In this case the elevators tore off due to the strain and without those the pilots lose their main way to control where the nose is pointed, just as all that ice weighs the plane down and totally changes the balance. And sometimes that means then you have a giant lawn dart.
>>545342183Thanks, now I know that these regulations are total BS; it's what got them killed.They say that if you encounter icing conditions you are supposed to exit the area ASAP, but don't mention HOW the fuck. By teleportation? The pilot (probably a man btw) have tried to take the shortest route outside instead of staying calm with stable, steady course. rip
>>545349208I don't "hate" my own gender. I just know from 10 straight years in male-dominated spaces that even at our best we are outdone by a significant percentage of men. I scored the highest of every female in my school and still got outdone by two men. I got into some extremely stressful political drama for years, blocked by over 10,000 people, and noticed that when I tried to keep up with the emotional resilience of other men in the same situation I'd repeatedly burn myself out to the point of mental collapse. I couldn't take being personally despised the way they could. When I enter /pol/ discussions about war and technology I can do okay with the basics but will get lost if it goes into anything that requires more than that. If I'm smarter than 95% of women and falling behind then it says something. That's not hate and if you think it's hate you probably worship niggers
>>545350583>waaah womenagain, go back >>545344853
>>545351066have 5+ kids with an autistic hypercompetent white man and raise 130+ gigagenius white children
>>545342815>pilot in training here.>mock 9
>>545350049>>545350288Timestamp for where ATC instructed the pilot to fly Into the storms?>ATV explicitly warned of extreme precipitation, pilot continued>Pilot tells atc they will do FIMED to Freeport anyway>Other pilots notify atc they are going around it, ATC approves it>Pilot says ice is manageable. 9 dead said she was wrong>Pilot reports unsafe outside air temperature. Proceeds anyway>Pilot reports turbulence increasing, proceeds anyway>Atc notifies pilot that the ride improves in his airspace and she is outside of it by a long way. She proceeds anyway>Pilot notices increased precipitation, climbs instead of aborting her fly through I listened to what you supplied multiple times. At no point did ATC Instruct her to fly through. Kek.>The pilot bears final responsibility for the safety of the passengers anon
>>545349964>pretends to act smug>fell for a false jewish victimhood narrative
>>545340399Take a paper airplane. Flies pretty good doesn't it? Now freeze it in a block of ice overnight and try to glide it across the kitchen
>>545351066Blocked by 10,000 people? Dafuq? Are you Hillary Clinton? Well, you could just focus on what you like doing. Life isn't a competition. Everyone dies anyway. We're all losers at this game.
Not trying to be sexist, but the few women I did see when working at regional airport as a line technician did fuck up and incorrectly perform orders on an uncrowded ramp and then also runway. ATC fucked her over sounds like but she should have stood her ground, sometimes women panic. poor girl.
>>545339556>last valid altitude That is the most ominous mundane statement I think I've read to date.<reddit spacing>picunrel
>>545343359>even the most braindead 70iq jeet wouldnt fly into that shitNow you've done it. You've challenged jeet izzat.
>>545339689>Why did she chose to do this?Had a brain fart, thought her kids were onboard, and saw the opportunity?
>>545351926>he cant handle two minutes of audio without someone holding his hand because ESLlol tiny brain out of izzat
>>545352363>Blocked by 10,000 people? DafuqI'm a micro-eceleb who said trannies aren't real in a gaming fandom filled with thousands of trannies.
>>545351066>Got into political drama>I couldn't handle it>I can't out-autist menAre you sure you're a woman? That's way too much self awareness for the average foid
