Part of the plane is missing.
Are they ok?
>>545342159Was there a plane crash or something? What did I miss?
>>545342159screaming pilot said they were in an overspeed and 10,000 feet per minute exceeds the speed of sound so maybe it ripped off
>>545342283not even the black box survived
>>545342159Hopefully they find it…
probably when she hit the eject button she accidentally disconnected the rear wings?
>>545342159Already solved.Stabilizers arent rated for going warp speed 6.Sheared off on descent.
>>545342159it broke off when the plane gathered moisture from the storm core and then that moisture froze from the descent speeds. metal becomes brittle and breaks off
>>545342159Lightning strike?
>>545342159Why would Netanyahu do that?
it was shot down
>>545342159Probably got ripped off in the dive
>>545342312a woman tried to pilot a jet
>>545342159You know, if you analyze the area of impact you can affirm that the whole plane is actually missing.
>>545342159It was a gremlin on the plane obviously.
>>54534231510,000 feet per minute equals approximately ~114 miles per hour. The speed of sound is ~767mph.
>>545342315>10,000 feet per minute exceeds the speed of soundNo, it does not.
Is it possible the air defenses around mar-a-lago accidentally fired on this plane and now they are trying to cover it up?
>>545342474Found it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqVFv7WAdJE
>>545342595True if big.
>>545342315>>545342354>>545342368>>545342454why are the main wings still intact
>>545342312
>>545342663It looks like someone called in a helldivers 2 stratagem
>>545342315pretty sure she said she exceeded 20k feet a minute right after
it was 100% shot downnothing else even makes sense
>>545342663At least it was quick and painless
>>545342312>Was there a plane crash or something?Lear Jet Descended from 41,000 feet, clockwise banking, crashed into highway at 600 MilesPerHour. In 1816, White Knight Lord Exmouth, commanded the White Crusade (an assembly of English and Dutch gun boats built and provisioned using American colonial resources) to bomb the Algerian Capital to Free the "White Slaves of Africa" and force the Blacks and Muslims to sign a "No More White Slaves" treaty. In this manner, American lands and American native infidels, and millions off white slaves, were STOLEN FROM THE ISLAMIC STATE (in 1492) because without these White European colonies, the Islamic State would have invaded and conquered and enslaved the New World, just as it did to Roman North Africa, Roman Spain, Roman Syria-Palestine, and Greece, Sicily, India, etc.Modern Racism was invented in English Colonial America by 1705 when Virginia Colony enacted law that stated that "Blacks" and "Muslims" cannot own any White Slaves (white Servants of any white "complexion"). England exported this Racist Law in 1816 when White Knight (of the Order "Knights Liberators of the White Slaves of Africa") Lord Exmouth sailed gunboats to Africa and bombed Algeria to Free the White Slaves (of all countries) and forced the Blacks and other Muslims to sign a "No More White Slaves" Treaty.
>>545342595yes, they chose this exact plane for demonstration test of their air defense capability. how did you know?
>>545342354Makes sense, she did say they were in an overspeed condition at the outset of the mayday call. The Lear 60 is rated for 0.8 mach so I'd bet they exceeded the speed of sound on the way in.
>>545342653Wings are the strongest part of the plane dumbass, they have to hold the rest of the plane in the air or did you think the giant metal tube was generating its own lift?
>>545342663That speed is at least Mach 10.
>>545342774Just a theory. A conspiracy theory. I try to start them here on 4chan and wait for them to get a foothold in other social media sites.
>>545342653The wingtips don't look too intact to me
>>545342849>ask a valid question out of curiosity and lack of plane autist knowledge>get called a dumbass immediately(you) changed.
>>545342159>video compression retards strike againone full hd bitmap is about 4MBone second of uncompressed 60fps full hd footage is 240MB
>>545342159God dammit Hegseth not again!
>>545342863>that plane was going 7,600 mph
>>545342331Bro, she had a name.
>>545342941
>>545342159Wouldn’t the pilot notice something that crucial missing?Big doubt to your hypothesis op
>>545342924Wing left a mark on impact.
>>545342663looks like ground fatalities
>>545342740they flew into weather and iced
>SAMs get put up around mar-a-lago>the next day a private jet gets nosedives into the ground with part of its tail missingpretty obvious they were paranoid about something and ended up shooting this plane down. Unless you believe the story about how some ice buildup caused the tail to fall off.
>>545343028Not a hypothesis, it's a fact it's missing.
>>545342751it wasn't quick, they had plenty of time during the descent, listen to the atc recording, it's kinda disturbing
>>545343001Had
>>545343070>looney-tunes-wile-coyote.jpegunreal
>>545342159The missing tail may be a Video-Compression artefact, because the color was too close to the background clouds. There are no I-frames containing the entire airplane. Only 2 P-frames (51 and 52) comprise I-blocks that show the general shape of the airplane. The I-blocks of P-frames 51 and 52 do not show the tail wings of the airplane. This may mean that the tail wing was physically absent before the crash. Or, it may mean that the video-codec in the CARCam could not distinguish the tail wing from the background clouds. The GIF is an assembly of the P-frames containing I-blocks (blocks not found in the nearest of the 3 I-frames in the MP4 source video) Frame 51 is the first of two P-frames having I-blocks that resemble an airplane shape.
>>545343111It could’ve been blurred in the image, but still presentThe plane was pictured at a high speed There is no way a pilot, even an incompetent one, would not notice that part missing. I just don’t buy it
>>545342999Of course it’s the terminal speed, not sure if the engines were still running as boosters all the way down, finally America produced its first hypersonic missile.
>>545343147The power pole is visible in the frame where the horizontal stabilizer would be blocking it in the background.
>>545343193are you retarded or just a small dicked chink? ICMBs are hypersonic.. Fucking yuropoor education
it fell off...mostly due to structural failure.
>>545342283>are they okAt the exact moment of this frame, the 2 pilots were obliterated while the passengers were still unharmed.Dead pilots. Living passengers. Crazy shit
>>545343178Things on planes can break.This is a similar crash from that part of the plane failing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska_Airlines_Flight_261
>>545343070Fucking thing evaporated
>>545342752So when Muzzies targeted Europe to capture slaves, that wasn't racist, huh?
>>545342159>>In a uncontrollable dive, Top of the T-tail rips off.This happened before I wonder if she played with the pickel ??
>>545342752Muh property
>>545342159It was a missile strike. The video and audio are the type of thing the beloved data centers were always meant to do.
>>545343317Then if you’re right, then somebody is getting suedLike majorly
>>545342888>Tell me you're jewish without telling me you're jewish.
>>545343070yep
>>545343193this video is in reverse.
>>545343178>no way a pilot wouldn't notice it's missingYou're right, they would check their rearview mirr-oh wait.Or actually during the free fall one of them would climb out to inspect it
>>545343386That's what happened last time, so it's a safe bet.
>>545342159>part of the plane is missingYeah: the male pilot
>>545343425Before the flightBut as the other anon said, it is possible it broke off. I hope that isn’t common >>545343464It only cost the lives of 9 people -_-
>>545342283Nobody was harmed.
>>545343070>inb4 all the retards claiming it was fake because nothing of the thin aluminium hull survived a near supersonic impact event
>>545342663why are you spreading the low res version?
>>545343070That's called auguring in. It's a special maneuver when all else fails.>>545343090Want a lunker of a theory?Remote controlled planes have been around for decades, some postulate it was a modified remote controlled A-6 Intruder that plowed into the pentagon by simple part identification on the lawn afterwards. There was also an orbiting E-3 Sentry over WTC on 9-11 the entire time and some claimed the 3 airliner cockpits were sealed and pilotless from takeoff until mission complete.
>>545342941It's okay, anon. I'm a pilot and, unlike most other pilots who make being a pilot their entire personality, I would have answered your question without rancor. The wings hold the plane in the air. That connection is the strongest part of the plane. They'd have to be trying aerobatics to get them to rip off. However, they would have been damaged beyond usefulness in a 30,000 fpm dive. They're not coming off the plane, but the real issue was the elevator which departed the airframe. And without that, they couldn't control their pitch which is why they hit the ground almost vertically.
>>545343473
>>545342331>not even the black box survivedoh it survived
>>545342595Occams Razor anon, Female pilot = crash
>>545343070ok. I now believe a plane hit the Pentagon on 9/11. There is no debris.
>>545343326It bounced. Those things flex like springs.
>>545343690no one cares about your shitty joke itoddler, stop making it on every thread
>>545342849>he doesn't knowPlease review "body lift." The tube does, in fact, generate lift.Please be precise in your efforts to be correct.
>>545343147>The GIF is an assembly of the P-frames containing I-blocks (blocks not found in the nearest of the 3 I-frames in the MP4 source video)"Error: Maximum file size allowed is 4 MB"Here is P-Frame 52's I-blocks. This is the second and last P frame that shows the shape of the airplane. Because the airplane was mostly shown in P-frames (before frame 51) as blocks from the I-frames that did not contain the airplane, it can be inferred that for the most part the Video codec used non-airplane blocks to represent the airplane in most of the Pframes. This may mean that the tail wings (stabilizer) was too close in color to the background (clouds) to be encoded as new I-blocks in the P-frames. Or, maybe the tail wings (stabilizers) were physically absent. It may require detailed analysis of the motion-vectors of the group of blocks used to depict the place where the tail wings (stabilizer) to determine if the video codec even detected the presence of the tail wings. I am not doing that today. Someone might find the tail wings (stabilizers) in the everglades (or see them on the plane in other videos) before I completed that.
>>545342663did it straight up missile strike that car?
>>545343070Oh, cool. Brittle fracture.
Video is ai, Iran bombed us, the cia is covering it.
>>545343675Probably broke off shortly before first report of dropping on the radio?
>>545343874Maybe someone will find it in their backyard of their field. Until they do it's impossible to know for sure. Looks like we're only working with ADSB data for this one. Prepare yourself for a lack of real answers.
also i hate planes bros
>>545343329>So when Muzzies targeted Europe to capture slaves, that wasn't racist, huh?Islam was invented because Arabs were not satisfied with the black abeed slaves that they already had inexpensively. Islam exists to organize Arabs (Muslims) to Jihad to capture White Slaves. Racism/Continentalism/Europeanism was first invented at the Battle of Tours when a multi-national coalition of White Supremacists (Franks and Aquitanians (Gaulo-Romans and Germanic peoples) who refused to submit to Islamic AntiRacist Rule by Moors/People of Color, refused to Pay Jizya Tax, Refused to Pay Blood Tax, and Refused to deliver up their White Children to the Islamic AntiRacist State) used violence to marginalize the darker People of Color who came to enforce Islamic AntiRacism in France by capturing and enslaving White People. [The Mozarabic Chronicle of 754 (written 22 years after ]the battle) famously refers to Charles Martel’s army as Europenses ("Europeans")—one of the earliest recorded uses of the term to describe an army.] Holy AntiRacist Slavery in the conquered land of Spain (Slavery in the Umayyad realm) included Africans, Slavs, Goths, Celts, Berbers, and Turks alike. The White Supremacists at Battle of Tours used Racist Violence against People of Color to deprive Pious People of Color of the White Slaves that Allah and their Imams had promised to them as reward for Jihad, in their share of plundering wealth/loot (razzia). Only the White Supremacists were willing to use Violence AGAINST Pious AntiRacist Slavery. In the 1500s, Blacks and other Muslims were boating the Mediterranean Sea (using enslaved white people as Galley Slaves to row the boats) to kidnap and enslave more White People, including English, Spanish, French, Italians etc. By 1627 Blacks and other Muslims obtained better boats and sailed to Iceland to kidnap and enslave hundreds of white people sold as slaves in Africa (1627 Sack of Iceland)
>>545343872AI can’t do fast motion like this dumbass, your post is AI though.
>>545343329>So when Muzzies targeted Europe to capture slaves, that wasn't racist, huh?>>545344005>Islam was invented because Arabs were not satisfied with the black abeed slaves that they already had inexpensively.By 1631, Blacks and other Muslims used their better boats and sailed to Ireland to kidnap and enslave hundreds of white people as slaves in Africa. (1631 Sack of Baltimore). In 1625, Blacks and other Muslims kidnapped the Mayflower Pilgrims on board a ship named Little James as it returned from America loaded with beaver pelts and dried cod fish for sale in England. In 1620, the English King tried to violently resist the capture and enslavement of their white English people by blacks and other Muslims (But England did not have sufficient resources). In the 1600s and 1700s, England enacted statutes forbidding "Blacks" and "Muslims" and "Indians" from owning any White slaves in parts of the New World controlled by England. It was not until 1816 that England had extracted enough resources from the Colonies to build Naval Ships of sufficient strength to bomb Africa and force Blacks and other Muslims to stop enslaving White People. In 1816, White Knight Lord Exmouth, commanded the White Crusade (an assembly of English and Dutch gun boats built and provisioned using American colonial resources) to bomb the Algerian Capital to Free the "White Slaves of Africa" and force the Blacks and Muslims to sign a "No More White Slaves" treaty. In this manner, American lands and American native infidels, and millions off white slaves, were STOLEN FROM THE ISLAMIC STATE (in 1492) because without these White European colonies, the Islamic State would have invaded and conquered and enslaved the New World, just as it did to Roman North Africa, Roman Spain, Roman Syria-Palestine, and Greece, Sicily, India, etc.
>>545343070did they drawn in that water or people saved them?
>>545343286the mach in that plane already killed all passengers before it crashed
>>545344131No, shut up retard.
>>545344131You can go Mach going down idiot that’s just gravity
>>545344107FUCKING.FLORIDA.
>>545344131The pilots were alive until the moment of impact, so the passengers would be as well. Best they could hope for is fainting and not being aware of how close to death they were
>>545342752wtf litreally right next to the crash was a white car, what happened to them?
>>545342159>Part of the plane is missing.I'm not sure that matters now.
>>545344278Perspective errors.
>>545344107save what?by the time the motion of that aircraft was finally arrested in the swampy ground it and everything on it was a pulverised mass
Why hasn’t anybody post a picture of her? The whore needs to be desecrated.
>>545344131Midwit
>>545344260how do you know they were alive until impact lmao >>545344313im not saying it literally crashed on the car you moron
>>545344316people should still have checked the water just to make sure. imagine surviving that fucking crash only to drown in the water because people are not checking. humans are shit
>>545344381t. midwit nigger1pbtid nou
>female pilotsno way would I be flying on that plane
Did the stabilizers fall off and cause the emergency or did they fall off because of whatever was the emergency?
>>545344278>a white car, what happened to them?They (white car) were not destroyed. The white car is undisturbed in frames subsequent to the airplane crash/explosion. The white car was further away at the far side of the intersection.>>545344313>Perspective errors.correctIn the 1500s, Blacks and other Muslims were boating the Mediterranean Sea (using enslaved white people as Galley Slaves to row the boats) to kidnap and enslave more White People, including English, Spanish, French, Italians etc. By 1627 Blacks and other Muslims obtained better boats and sailed to Iceland to kidnap and enslave hundreds of white people sold as slaves in Africa (1627 Sack of Baltimore) By 1631, Blacks and other Muslims used their better boats and sailed to Ireland to kidnap and enslave hundreds of white people as slaves in Africa. (1631 Sack of Baltimore). In 1625, Blacks and other Muslims kidnapped the Mayflower Pilgrims on board a ship named Little James as it returned from America loaded with beaver pelts and dried cod fish for sale in England. In 1620, the English King tried to violently resist the capture and enslavement of their white English people by blacks and other Muslims (But England did not have sufficient resources). In the 1600s and 1700s, England enacted statutes forbidding "Blacks" and "Muslims" and "Indians" from owning any White slaves in parts of the New World controlled by England. It was not until 1816 that England had extracted enough resources from the Colonies to build Naval Ships of sufficient strength to bomb Africa and force Blacks and other Muslims to stop enslaving White People. In 1816, White Knight Lord Exmouth, commanded the White Crusade (an assembly of English and Dutch gun boats built and provisioned using American colonial resources) to bomb the Algerian Capital to Free the "White Slaves of Africa" and force the Blacks and Muslims to sign a "No More White Slaves" treaty.
>>545343797>memeflaggot does not carecry me a river sanjay
>>545342159Can the plane and everything inside it vaporize like that? I know about the sub scenario but it's surreal that we got another grim reminder of that scenario again
>>545342663fuck a ducknot gooddude since 'first world that is free with highest gdp and best ranking in everything + safe and effective' lost access to fuel fkn passanger planes are taking off over suburbs (above my house eeeek) at around 700-1200 meters max, can see the fkn wheel sometimesdisaster waiting to happeni am just waiting to see this crap one daynot good
>>545342315They said they were in a sixty degree bank which is consistent with a missing stabilizer. Can't wait to see until it is recovered. It didn't just vanish and had to fall somewhere on something.
>>545344420jesus fucking christ you absolute dipshitwatch the fucking video you are shitstick to raping village children and picking pockets you absolute moron
>>545342159That's not how planes supposed to land.
Got blown off when it was nosediving
>>545344502>Muh jeetsLiterally brainfucked by poojets holy shit what a pathetic tryhard
>>545344405>I'm not sayingYes. You said "right next to." I am informing you that it was not "right next to."
>>545344420I don't think they checked the water, survivors have likely been transformed into gator shit by now.
>>545344420>>545344523Both of you are retarded
>>545344420>imagine surviving that fucking crash only to drown in the waterNo. That is not how 500 Miles-Per-Hour crashes occur. It is extremely rare for a human to survive a 100 MPH car crash. Now, 5x speed means each piece of flesh has 25x potential energy. The human flesh flows like a liquid and the bones shatter like chalk flying into a hammer.American lands and American native infidels, and millions off white slaves, were STOLEN FROM THE ISLAMIC STATE (in 1492) because without these White European colonies, the Islamic State would have invaded and conquered and enslaved the New World, just as it did to Roman North Africa, Roman Spain, Roman Syria-Palestine, and Greece, Sicily, India, etc.
>>545344405>jow do you know they were alive?The voice recorder, you retard. Holy shit why are you even commenting in this thread if you don't have any of the basic facts?
EXCUSE ME WHILE I DUSTIFY>>> THANKS!
>>545344449You're the nigger posting in here without having watched the video or listened to the voice recorder. All this shit is available and yet here you are posting 100% wrong shit because you didn't watch the video or listen to the voice recorder
>>545344523but you don't know if you do not check. that's the whole point. how many people died because people just assumed they dieded? ever wondered about that? nice way of confirming that humans are indeed shit
>>545343352So...is that plane sleeping?
>>545344614Post the recordings then retard
>>545344508>vaporizeNot *vaporize* but pulverize. That plane was pulverized. It was like a hollow soda can getting crushed and blown up and burned into tiny pieces
>>545344107no wonder Romania has highest youth unemployment in the entire world. You guys are retarded. The occupants and the aircraft are instantly vaporized upon impact.>>545344475>did they fall off because of whatever was the emergency?copilot mentioned wanting a different flight path due to inclement weather- a higher altitude was granted. They went up and the icy conditions caused airframe stab elevator failure. The rapid, uncontrollable descent probably shredded those stabilator pieces.
>>545344508>Can the plane and everything inside it vaporizeThe plane did not "vaporize" It was buried in the dirt, covered with water, after it crumpled up into a crushed-soda-can shape. The wing tips banged onto pavement and probably can be found shredded nearby.
>>545344420Anon... They'll be lucky if they find some tiny shards of bone.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4q35xHzjxB0
>>545344742They're on Twitter, retard. Everyone here has already watched and listened. You're the only ignorant retard who hasn't. Learn to use Google, faggot
>>545344420Oh. Sweet child
>>545344064>Because of jews ruining the Roman empire
>>545344785The wings on the pavement side achieved brittle fracture via velocity alone.
>>545344776people survived worse anon. it doesn't hurt to check just to make sure.
>>545344508The sub actually survived much more recognizably than this plane.
>>545342740>>545343089
>>545342354>>545342368damage control botsthis entire thing stinks
>>545344611>Now, 5x speed means each piece of flesh has 25x potential energyNah I don't buy that(((Energy))) is just more scientist lies
>>545343797Post flag moshe
>>545342653it's normal for tail control surfaces to get ripped off during extreme altitude loss
>>545344854No
>>545344517>Can't wait to see until it is recovered.>>545343835>Here is P-Frame 52's I-blocks. This is the second and last P frame that shows the shape of the airplane.In aviation accident investigations (such as those conducted by the NTSB), low-bitrate web video is notoriously deceptiveB. Luminance Contrast (The "Cloud Camouflage" Effect)Video compression algorithms prioritize edges with high contrast (luminance gradient).If the horizontal stabilizer is white or light gray and moving across light gray/white overcast clouds, the mathematical difference (ΔY) between the stabilizer and the background is minimal.To save bandwidth, the encoder simply codes the block as a SKIP or low-frequency Inter-block, assuming the human eye will not notice the slight texture difference.The reason you only saw Intra-blocks in frames 51 and 52 is due to how the Decoded Picture Buffer (DPB) works:Frame 51 (Entry): The airplane suddenly enters the frame. The encoder searches the previous frame, finds nothing matching an airplane, and is forced to encode those pixels as Intra-blocks (I-blocks).Frame 52 (Shape Refinement): Rapid changes in orientation or newly revealed surfaces require a few more Intra-blocks.Frames 53 and beyond: The encoder no longer needs Intra-blocks to draw the airplane. Why? Because the airplane already exists in Frame 52! For all subsequent frames, the encoder simply uses Motion Vectors pointing directly to the airplane in the preceding P-frame, along with small residual corrections.In modern video codecs, P-frames do not reference an I-frame from seconds ago; they reference the immediately preceding frame in the chain (P51P52P53…P 51 P 52 P 53 …). The codec is not using "non-airplane blocks" to draw the plane; it is tracking the real airplane pixels forward frame-by-frame.
>>545344990What? I'm catholic so take your pic for your next slander unrelated to the post.
>>545342159Was she ok?>>545342663Was she OK?
>>545342941>valid question out of curiosityYea I'm sure it was just an honest question, dumbass
still none of the victims named when this happened 10 hours ago and surely their families were notified they are really trying to keep their names from being known.... why?
>>545345124Says the meme flag, ok moshe
>>545342598man I'm flying later this month and this is triggering some serious anxiety
>>545345160Probably scrubbing social medias, etc.
>>545345160>>545345278fucking schizo zoomers lmaohttps://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=a9ab17
>>545345177No new slander? Though so.
>>545344738>>is that plane sleeping?No That is the Alaska Airlines crash in 2000 where something similar happened ... There is a trim adjustment on T tail aircraft that you do after take- off . On the 2000 crash it wasn't working ( the suit case handle ) so the pilots tried the Back up ( the pickle ) that did not work . So they tried both at the same time -- it broke the part and they were in an uncontrolled dive -- then they recovered , they they were in a dive again -- this went on till they went inverted and crashed in to the sea -- with on T-Tail just like this plane . Found out about the Jack Screw and Jesus Nut .
>>545344508It didn't vaporize. See those inch-long metal splinters scattered around the hole? That's what's left of the plane.
>>545342595Not unless the cockpit audio is fake.
Don’t ask why I know this, I just do. You can cap this for later. It was a family of 4, married white couple and their 2 white children - 4 and 2. They were traveling with a babysitter and another couple. The 2 pilots make 9. They were flying to the Bahamas for a vacation/friends birthday. He was a tech guy but not a Jew. He’s very active on LinkedIn. Honestly, very devastating. Could be blamed on weather or maybe trumps Mar a lago defense system did something. Or maybe just a female pilot. Either way, their names will come out soon and it’s no one you’ll know.
>>545344738It's a Qantas plane
>>545343835>The GIF is an assembly of the P-frames containing I-blocks (blocks not found in the nearest of the 3 I-frames in the MP4 source video)>>545345099>Intra-blocks in framesThis GIF shows the I-blocks in P-Frames 40 to 70 (including 51 and 52)
>>545343473Keked
>>545345181save those nervous farts for the plane
How did it make it through the power lines?
>>545343835>>545345421fucking retard lmao
>>545342159>> $30 million for an airplane>> no side rear view mirrors>> no camerasmaybe if he knew he didn't have a tail wing he would have somehow been able to compensate for thatrich people think they're smart and then buy/fly planes with zero redundant systemsthen they die
>>545342159ugh bruh those back engine designs are super unsafe lmao. many such cases
>pay $5 million for an express trip to the bahamas>get a woman pilot *snap*
>>545342159It got ripped off at 10,000 feet when the speed exceeded the rated forces. It didn’t cause the accident. Just made things worse. The cause of the accident was womanpilot. It’s a big issue in the aeronautical world.
So it's obviously a missile, got it.
>>545342354>Sheared offthis>>545342653>whybecause the wing on an airplane is the primary functional part that makes it fly and also has a strong metal reinforcing structure inside of it, called a sparIt would take something like a direct large object impact, collision, or explosion-explosive device, to separate a main wing on a business jet
>>545344738>is that plane sleeping?on the contrary. the pilots fought with everything they had and even tried flying it upside down just like denzel in Flight (likely based on this incident)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska_Airlines_Flight_261
>>545345327Didn't remember this one, interesting read that they (almost) regained control inverted.
>>545342595I doubt it. If a plain got shot down by anti-air it would at least hit the ground a flaming bundle of mangled metal.
>>545345627some random innocent guy watching judge judy and eating in front of the TV in his boxers ahas a hole in his roof cause rich assholes have money
>>545345421>The GIF is an assembly of the P-frames containing I-blocks (blocks not found in the nearest of the 3 I-frames in the MP4 source video)Same GIF, but frame number written into lower left corner of each frame, and time-interval between P-frames is doubled, to 1-second (31 frames 40 to 70).
I’m becoming increasingly fearful of flying and I’m not sure if I want to take a scheduled trip in November anymore
>>545344922So she flew directly into the heaviest part of the storm?
>>545344882>people survived worse anon.>600 mph slam into asphaltThey most certainly have not
>>545345895who even cares it's always great when rich people diethey would literally shit on your lawn and laugh about bit and then prance off in their jet
>>545345939that's basically the titanic capsule submarine pop lol
>>545345990i think the submarine crush was even faster than this
>>545342159I just pray they all thought "OH FUCK WHAT ABOUT ALL MY MONEYYYY" right before they died lol
>>545346064either way. they dead now
>>545342159>>545342283why not do a glide landing in the water ?
>>545342159Aerospace engineer here. The part you circled is just cosmetic and serves no function in flight, it's just for aesthetic balance.
>>545345099gen-z/a has never experienced non-compressed media and is very confused by it
They told me it was a meteor
>>545342159planes should have backups.
>>545345695>Alaska Airlines okaying flights with 90% failed parts that were recommended to be replaced by mechanics, got away with a slap on the wristOkay never flying again
>>545344882they forgot to check because they were frightenedthere was lots of fire and it was very scaryplease try to be understanding anon
>>545344566right next to is not = crashing into, are you retarded?
>>545344614lol dude the voice recordings arent from literally the last minisecond before the crash are you literal ape? why do you imagine the voice recording is exactly when the crash is? maybe becauese you are a tard?
>>545345392You really think the three letter agencies don't have the capability to fake that?
>>545345099>Here is P-Frame 52's I-blocks. This is the second and last P frame that shows the shape of the airplane.Side-by-Side original Frame 52 from MP4 and I-blocks in Frame 52In the 1500s, Blacks and other Muslims were boating the Mediterranean Sea (using enslaved white people as Galley Slaves to row the boats) to kidnap and enslave more White People, including English, Spanish, French, Italians etc. By 1627 Blacks and other Muslims obtained better boats and sailed to Iceland to kidnap and enslave hundreds of white people sold as slaves in Africa (1627 Sack of Baltimore) By 1631, Blacks and other Muslims used their better boats and sailed to Ireland to kidnap and enslave hundreds of white people as slaves in Africa. (1631 Sack of Baltimore). In 1625, Blacks and other Muslims kidnapped the Mayflower Pilgrims on board a ship named Little James as it returned from America loaded with beaver pelts and dried cod fish for sale in England. In 1620, the English King tried to violently resist the capture and enslavement of their white English people by blacks and other Muslims (But England did not have sufficient resources). In the 1600s and 1700s, England enacted statutes forbidding "Blacks" and "Muslims" and "Indians" from owning any White slaves in parts of the New World controlled by England. By 1816 England had extracted enough resources from Colonies to build Naval Ships to bomb Africa and force Blacks and other Muslims to stop enslaving White People. In 1816, White Knight Lord Exmouth, commanded the White Crusade (English and Dutch gun boats provisioned by American colonial resources) to bomb the Algerian Capital to Free the "White Slaves of Africa" and force the Muslims to sign a "No More White Slaves" treaty. Thus American lands and American native infidels, and millions off white slaves, were STOLEN FROM THE ISLAMIC STATE (in 1492). But for White European colonies, the Islamic State would have invaded and conquered and enslaved the New World.
>>545346720>Side-by-Side original Frame 51 from MP4 and I-blocks in Frame 51
>>545346647why are some of you so desperate to make a conspiracy out of this midterms shills can't be that desperate can they?>I'm being facetious of course they are
they shot it down
>>545346769Side-by-Side original Frame 50 from MP4 and I-blocks in Frame 50
>>545346859>Side-by-Side original Frame 50 from MP4 and I-blocks in Frame 50Side-by-Side original Frame 50 from MP4 and I-blocks in Frame 50
I hope it was an Indian that didn't tighten the bolts.
>>545343286>firstits a pilot joke
>>545346908Side-by-Side original Frame 49 from MP4 and I-blocks in Frame 49
>>545346810kike shill
>>545347001>Side-by-Side original Frame 49 from MP4 and I-blocks in Frame 49Side-by-Side original Frame 50 from MP4 and I-blocks in Frame 50
>>545344313>Perspective errors.Shrapnel error their face.
>>545347060>I try to start them here on 4chan and wait for them to get a foothold in other social media sites.you are literally a kike shill
>>545342663>die nigger HYAHHHH
>>545342368>metal becomes brittle and breaks offthats... not how that works.
>>545343240It depends. Cheap-ass car cameras have notoriously shitty h264 encoder implementations.
>>545342159no shit it's going mach 3 into the earth - most airplanes come apart past the speed of sound
>>545342159>No tail finsSeems so. Are you just noting a fact, or did you have some theory you were going for?
>>545343286Gotta admit, the compression wave igniting inside the cabin is wildly cool looking.
>>545342315maybe. I wonder if they'll find it because that will very easily tell what may have happened. i wonder if the foid pilot just continued to accelerate without the T tail because she didn't realize she had lost her elevation control and thought she could pull up.
>>545345327was that the plane crash that inspired the>i drank the vodkafilm?
>>545345939>>600 mph slam into asphalt>They most certainly have notThose poor souls would've had a better chance ripping open the door and jumping out. At least then they had a POSSIBILITY of survival if they were extremely lucky.
>>545342446TWA flight 800 was. This one doesn't show any damage consistent with the a hit from what I can see in those few frames.
>>545344882only in the movies bro. stop believing jewish fairytales.
>>545347407I think the question is:Did the stabilizer fall off, or is it just an encoding error/shitty camera.andif the stabilizer did fall off, WHEN did it fall off. Did it fall off when the plane was going mach-jesus straight down, or did it fall off before then?I do have to say.... it's pretty fucking hard to get a plane to go straight down like that without some sort of significant mechanical issue. Icing, turbulance, stalls, etc wouldn't do that by themselves.
>elevators broke offThat would do it. Plane would lose all control and nose dive straight into the ground.
Im pret
>>545347984hi pret
>>545342159it's got unscrewed by the joos
>>545347729She flew thru the heart of a fucking strong storm and ignored warnings bout just going around it like anyone sane. And likely didn't even bother engaging de-icing systems. Anything after that fact, is just coating trying to cover for a foid who went screaming to her death taking others with her.Jews did this. Women shouldn't be pilots or in charge of fuckall more difficult than a diaper. Doesn't matter how much of a % can do more, men have to work their asses off to be in control of anything and they are vastly more competent even before they do their training.Sucks she died when she should have been shitting out children. But no, her career is more important. Thankfully this time it was some rich faggtos who deserved to die screaming as well.
>>545342159I'm glad they are dead
>>545343178>There is no way a pilot, even an incompetent one, would not notice that part missing. I just don’t buy itThe plane would tell you, very loudly, that it was missing. It controls your pitch, without it, it's impossible to angle up or down. You would notice very quickly that it was gone.
>>545343147>>545343835Did you pull these from ffmpeg?
>>545346174without that tail piece, it had zero control over its stabilization. it wouldn't have even been possible to pull up, even slightly.
>>545343286The passengers should have jumped ot at that moment
>>545343326Most of the plane is made out of fiberglass to make it light, and the frame is engineered aluminium with a surprised good strength, but incredible low melting point.The whole plane got vaporised.
>>545343070Jetfuel can’t melt steel beams.
>>545342159If this image is real, why are the power lines still intact and where are the remains of the plane.
>>545343764That's a good point. They really are just big aluminium condoms.
>>545342663imagine being the poor guy whos trailer home got learjetstriked
>>545347599>Those poor souls would've had a better chance ripping open the door and jumping out [over florida/everglades]. At least then they had a POSSIBILITY of survival if they were extremely lucky.1) Is it possible to even open door of Leer jet at 500+ MPH?2) Would they survive impact of 500MPH wind upon exit from airplane? [inflation and bursting of lungs is possible]3) Would they be decapitated by the tail wings after exit?4) Would they land in water? hurts at 120MPH terminal velocity.Would they land in mud/muck? They would be buried under the surface and drown.Would they strike a walmart parking lot....
>>545347407>it's going mach 3
>>545342368It was in a powered dive. Likely broke off the stabilizers.
>>545342539>>545342555I think he meant acceleration from descending 10,000ft in a minute.The plane was at about mach 0.9 when it impacted, it has some serious kinetic energy. There is no way that she is flying that plane and not going to rip something when flying that fast in a dive.
>>545347407Nigga its not a MiG-25.
>>545348480>Did you pull these from ffmpeg?Probably. I vibe coded it using Gemini 3.8 lite. Here is the colab with the code. https://colab.research.google.com/drive/1ouFFs_U1OsJC-vE0Q5AntIWU33nvU8mU?usp=sharing
>>545342159Which part isn't? lol
>>545348480>Did you pull these from ffmpeg?Yes: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------# 4. Run Single-Threaded FFmpeg Decoder with Macroblock Debugging# ------------------------------------------------------------------------------# -threads 1 ensures synchronous, un-interleaved logging of macroblock rowsprint("[+] Decoding frames and parsing bitstream macroblock structures...")cmd_decode = ( f'ffmpeg -y -threads 1 -debug mb_type -i "{video_in}" ' f'-vsync 0 "{raw_frames_dir}/frame_%05d.png"')proc = subprocess.run(cmd_decode, shell=True, capture_output=True, text=True)# ------------------------------------------------------------------------------# 5. Parse FFmpeg stderr Log for Macroblock Types# ------------------------------------------------------------------------------# In FFmpeg's libavcodec (mpegutils.c):# 'i' = IS_INTRA4x4# 'I' = IS_INTRA16x16 / general Intra# 'S' = SKIP (motion predicted from previous frame with zero residual)# '>' = List 0 forward prediction# 'd', 'D', '<', 'X' = other inter-prediction modesVALID_FIRST_CHARS = set("iIdDgGS><X?A ")
>>545348778>4) Would they land in water? hurts at 120MPH terminal velocity.I was thinking hitting trees and swamp.Although apparently russians surviving otherwise fatal falls from terminal velocity is much more common, since they fall into thick snow and just get up and walk away.
>>545342595Thunderstorms are a death sentence for planes. The convective air movement alone is enough to overstress the control surfaces and break them off. There's talk about icing conditions as well, which plays a huge role in the lift capabilities of an airfoil. Added weight + a change in the wing shape is deadly. They started a descent through one with neither ATC or the pilot(s) reconsidering the decision. The real question is why they allowed it to happen.
>>545342159That's the best part too.
>>545342159Alright geniuses. They had 76 seconds, how do you survive this scenario?
>>545349035I heard the feet pics people know more about that
>>545342598what did she say at the end?
>>545344107That water IS the people, anon...
>>545347458Just noting it.
>>545348707
>>545348712the crater is filled with mud and water and the plane is flat as a pancake submerged in it
>>545349101Jump off at the last second before it hit the ground.
>>545349101Shoot the hostage
>>545342738thats not thier speed though that's just the rate they were dropping
>>545346834What makes you think that plane was shot down?
>>545349101Also go to bed man it's late
>>545349281you'd still be falling at the speed the plane was going if you managed to do that
>>545345321You're a poop until proven otherwise.
>>545342653>the storm core and then thH-Stabs are usually held on by one really big bolt and a few connecting rods to a stabilizer motor. Wings are incorporated into the aircraft structure itself. If the plane is in a dive, the horizontal stabilizer would have taken the brunt of the stress if the pilot was trying to recover. So, all of the flight stress on one of the weakest points of the aircraft leads to what you see in OP's screenshot.
>>545349364avenger air defence systems outside mar e lago plus the rear stabilizer was missing, probably shot off.
>>545349466>be going down>jump upUp is the opposite of down, so it cancels
>>545343090Lol nobody in the neighborhood noticed a SAM site poppin' off?
>>545343859No, there have been other angles showing the aftermath and the car looked fine. Not sure about the driver though.
>>545342159Flying in luxury on a small plane lol. Can't be with the plebs on a regular flight. Oh well
>>545349035>The real question is why they allowed it to happen.Lack of experience and inability to read the returns from a weather radar. Smartphones have destroyed the human ability to think beyond an automated notification.
>>545349565leftrannies will rationalize magical thinking if it means they can blame trump for it. no doubt mar a lago is swarming with cameras and one of them would have definitely seen a SAM going off. there's probably even be a smoke trail lingering in the air for a while
>>545342751it was not, they were screaming begging for help from ATC
>>545347601Yeah you'd probably be able to see some holes. Also notable this was at cruising altitude and stingers don't go that high. Extremely strange it augers within 8 miles of Mar a Lago days after getting that air defense system but if its icing...it really is just a coincidence.
>>545342752
>>545342663RIP the poor fuckers in that white car. Probably not how they expected their day to go.
>>545348596I would have made it
>>545342653wings are strong. horizontal stabilizer is the most likely part to be torn off in overspeed dive
>>545343070Kersplat
>>545348894>Nigga its not a MiG-25.Correct. It's not designed to fly beyond the speed of sound like a MiG, but if you have a plane in a nosedive and the engines are on full, you are absolutely going to exceed the speed of sound which places the airframe under stresses it was not designed to take.
>>545348319Level 99 based has been unlocked
>>545342598>hire bimbo woman to pilot your jet because she's attractive>bimbo pilot got a pass for being attractive her entire life so she never had a real problem>never developed problem solving skills>as soon as something dosn't go as stated in the textbook she starts freaking out>screams If there was a way to find out I would bet actual real money she let go of the stick yoke and screamed the last 5 seconds or so.I analyze dash cam footage and determine if an insurance company can get out of coverage for a living, this is a very common thing this type of woman does in this situation.
>>545349859they are fine there are post incident videos which show the white car about 30 feet away from the crater the plane left
>>545349950Women are strong, brave, have great situational awareness, calmness under pressure and are known for concentrating and buckling down when in life and death situations. I can't believe you. We need more foid pilots actually. RIP foid
>>545349807Upon impact, the kinetic energy of the fuel is converted to thermal energy, raising the vapor pressure of the fuel. --- Jet Fuel Kinetic-to-Thermal Conversion at 600.0 MPH ---Impact Velocity: 268.22 m/sAssumed Specific Heat (Cp): 2000.0 J/(kg*K)Theoretical Temperature Increase: 17.99 K (°C)Theoretical Temperature Increase: 32.37 °F
>>545343764If anything, yes I think I'm finally settled on 9/11 Pentagon lacking plane parts. RIP 9 souls.
>>545343286The worst plane crash I ever heard of was TWA Flight 800 where the cockpit broke off and the plane kept flying for awhile. That shit must've been a nightmare for the people still on board
>>545346456I bet it’s the local forced Native American diversity hireslol more lmao fuck whitey bullshit I honestly think we should focus on solving the terraform problem just in case we can’t restart the ancient atmosphere generators that our white ancient Martian ancestors left there and then let’s gather round as white peoples and leave this savage monkey planet. ONLY WHITE PEOPLE GO ON THE SPACE SHIPS TO MARSyou non Martian dna savages can stay here on earth since you hate us whites so much.
>>545350040Yeah it was rough when it got hit by a US navy missile by accident and then was covered up. Poor high school kids on their french club trip.
I GUARANTEE the pilot was hot. And lived life with everything handed to her, including her pilots license, because everyone wanted to fuck her.
>>545344882Kek. You're a funny. Why dont these anons want to just check and be sure lol.
>>545344131>>545344260you can hear them saying the lord's prayer on the atc recording, they were very much alive. sadly, the volcano demon was on vacation that day and didn't help them
>>545349957That's good I guess. Any more footage? Can't find any live news choppers, I thought burgers loved that shit?
>>545349101I would turn the plane 360 and fly away.
>>545350153
>>545350143pilots always come from rich families unless they learned to fly in the military
There must've been something she did prior. She flew straight towards the ground, most air plane footage I know that had some kind of issues and crashed. Did so gliding towards the ground, usually during landing attempts.It doesn't make sense for a plan to just descent straight down like that, unless it was shot down.I also find it kind of weird how quickly people have an answer for this incident.
>>545348866especially given that that's clearly a control surface, it likely attempted auto-correct and applied full force until it snapped off
>>545350040The front section broke off from the remainder of the plane which is everything after the wings attachment mounting area. Due to an explosion meaning the second larger half of the plane caught fire and it remained lit for 40 seconds during its insane shoot up then straight back down into the ocean One of the first diversity hire cause aircraft tragedies in USA.The Feds always love to keep mum though because of their official antichrist policies
>>545342159umm, as far as I know, the tripulation had discovered how to regrow your foreskin and had to be dealt with ASAP.
>>545342740>it was 100% shot downnothing else even makes senseYes, especially given this article from two fucking days ago.https://www.kcra.com/article/florida-mar-a-lago-air-defense-systems-missiles/74292127“ PALM BEACH COUNTY, Fla. —Surface-to-air missile systems have been deployed at Mar-a-Lago and Donald J. Trump International Airport at the request of the U.S. Secret Service, according to federal officials.”“The systems are designed to defend against aerial threats, including aircraft and drones.”“The U.S. Secret Service is operating in a heightened threat environment, and we continuously adapt our protective operations to incorporate cutting-edge tools, technology, and methods to safeguard our protectees. At the request of the U.S. Secret Service, NORAD and U.S. Northern Command are providing Counter-Unmanned Aircraft System capabilities in support of our protective operations," the statement said“Add in all those threads about countries warning citizens to keep emergency supplies.
>>545342159Don’t exceed Vne
>>545350306>>545342740Agreed, can't imagine a woman pilot fucking up, must be a conpiruhcee
>>545343255ICBMS have to take a parabolic fight path to achieve hypersonic speeds. True hypersonic missiles can achieve the speed at sea level.
>>545343744Occam's Razor is gay and not a scientific principle. There are plenty of things that have quirky, seemingly unlikely explanations.
>>545350228it didn't have a horizontal stabilizer anymore, which makes it absolutely unrecoverable. only thing i'm curious about is if they were somehow still thrusting while going straight down.
>>545350111Gotta respect the trips, but TWA 800 went down in some pretty shallow water near Long Island and it's pretty improbable that a U.S. Navy vessel would have been operating there. More likely a MANPAD from Afghanistan or Somalia and an act of terrorism. Wouldn't be hard to study aircraft approach lanes and get a small boat out to that location from Long Island.
>>545342740Maybe the autopilot malfunctioned and pointed the nose down.
>>545350491I thought TWA 800 went down because of a fuel tank explosion
>>545350228>There must've been something she did prior. She flew straight towards the groundThe picture shows a missing horizontal stabilizer. That what controls your climb or descent. If the plane lost that part in a storm, there is nothing a pilot could do to recover the aircraft. Without the H-stab, it would fly directly toward the ground.
>>545350364There is no way a trained pilot fucks up this hard or a leafjet just malfunctioning like that.Like what did she do, just push forward the stick and aim for the ground randomly?>>545350488>>545350569Even without a stabilizer the plane would not be controllable much but it would still just glide regularly. Unless one of the wings got damaged too then I see it losing its balance and maybe depending on the severity of the damage change its course to go straight down.Or there was a big impact, that took the stabilizer with it. Then I it would make sense.
>>545350548>I thought TWA 800 went down because of a fuel tank explosion
>>545350569>The picture shows a missing horizontal stabilizer.You can see some extra colours there, so it's probably just a video compression artifact, and the wing just kind of blends with they sky. Also, the plane occludes the pole in one frame only, so the compression algorithm would just draw the more persistent pole there anyway.
>>545350666>Even without a stabilizer the plane would not be controllable much but it would still just glide regularly.Nope. Gravity is a thing. Flaps would have been unusable at that speed and elevation. Ailerons move in opposite direction to control the roll. Loss of stabilizer would result in an uncontrolled descent.
>>545350773sorry, im not a tranny who just assumes everything i hear is a lie and then comes up with my own baseless assumption, like you evidently are
>>545344508Yeah just like the plane in Pennsylvania. Completely blinked out of existence and left nothing but a mound of dirt.
>>545350548>>545350237>>545350040>the cockpit broke off and the plane kept flying for awhileMechanically and aerodynamically impossible. Without the nose to direct the air around the fuselage it's like hitting a wall at 500mph. Structurally, if you remove that much of a semi-monoque fuselage and expose it to that much stress, it would immediately break apart. This is the biggest reason the official story of TWA 800 is complete bullshit.
It's a pretty fucking HUGE coincidence that this shit happened literally the day after they stuffed mar-a-lago with every AD and EM warfare system known to man. Also there was a male pilot there too who would have been running the show, the foid 2IC was just screaming on the comms while he was adrenaline dumping trying to get control of the plane. I think some overzealous zogbot probably tazed it with an EW system and they are running damage control.
no airbrakes?also shouldnt have taken that shot, airwrecka.>>545348319>>545349943>some rich faggtosHMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMwho were these rich faggots, exactly? did they hold any important patents, or were vetoing any importan decisions?dig anons, dig
>>545350850But you can see the wing in a few frames and you never see the stabilizer. That and the uncontrolled descent pretty much seals it for me. Somehow, the stabilizer detached. Probably in the weather.
>>545350859You're right gravity is a thing and so are aerodynamics, that would still keep the plane of descending down in a glide. Since most of the plane is still intact. Now it would've still been a uncontrolled descent and probably a crash. But in no way like that, unless there was some sort impact. >speed and elevation.Speed and elevation were normal before they abruptly started descending.>Ailerons move in opposite direction to control the rollOnly when they're used to do so. If they're not used and are in a static position, it can't affect it.
>>545351110>no airbrakes?Wtf? Airbrakes and thrust reversers only work on the ground. At that speak, they'd get ripped off the aircraft.
>>545342751I mean, except for the several minutes they were banking and falling out of the sky at mach fuck you
>>545344776This still doesnt account for the insane speed at impact, this has hapened before in the US where a small jet has gone full thrust into the pavement, the last one was a mudical jet. Most times a plane will at least reduce thrust, even if they cant level out, these dudes are accelerating.
>>545351046>It's a pretty fucking HUGE coincidence that this shit happened literally the day after they stuffed mar-a-lago with every AD and EM warfare system known to manYou would see a specific kind of damage with a surface to air missile. The missile would approach the aircraft from below and the damage would be un the lower fuselage. No way a missile takes out just a horizontal stabilizer. The damage doesn't match a missile attack.
>>545351134this jet has the same tail number as the one that crashed, and its stabilizers are white and not at the top of the tail... so what's going on here exactly? if the stabilizers are white, it might be nearly impossible to see them from this angle and camera compression, they could still be there
>>545351005Let’s run the math would it or would it not with a giant fireball right at the front
>>545343001>Bro, she had a name.Airwrecka
>>545351134You can kind of see the stabilizer. There's for sure some kind of a shadow around that part of the sky. It just blends with the sky because of the compression algorithm.
>>545351318
>>545351177>that would still keep the plane of descending down in a glideNo, it wouldn't. It may glide for a bit, but eventually you'd stall and nosedive. Without a horizontal stabilizer, you can't maintain the correct angle of attack to generate lift on the wing. There is a reason the stabilizer/elevator is a considered a primary flight control, because you are fucked without it.
>>545351434well shit im blind i guess
>>545351257>Most times a plane will at least reduce thrust, even if they cant level out, these dudes are accelerating.The only way to cut the engines would have been to kill the fuel pumps or execute and emergency shut down. At that speed with available fuel, they'd still run into the ground.
>>545351437Only if there is some sort of disruption. Unless the pilots did something in that time but even then they would've dived for a while.
>>545343090Stingers don't reach cruising altitude for jets and this one started having issues well above stinger ceiling. I thought maybe some form of active EW but it really does just look like icing.
>>545351318>this jet has the same tail number as the one that crashed, and its stabilizers are white and not at the top of the tail.Stabilizer is at the top. Lear 60's have these weird winglet things at the bottom of the empennage that improves stability during flight, but they aren't specifically a flight control. That's that those white things are. The are odd and most planes don't have them. It's a Lear thing.
>>545351459https://youtu.be/kaOIxll4LCA?si=BnMdqlp_BEq1NIIV&t=106
>>545351370Pretty sure the air coming in is going to push any fireball away instantly. The air would go right into the cabin and split it apart. The official story actually doesn't make sense...
>>545346647it's not cockpit audio. it's from the radio tard. the Tx buttons would still work all the way to the ground
>>545351738meant for this tard:>>545345392
>>545351597Maverick would have pulled back on the throttle and let the plane come out of it.
>>545351603>Only if there is some sort of disruption.You need to just stfu. You are the idiot that thought you can deploy airbrakes at full speed. You know fuck all about the physics of flight. Angle of attack on the leading edge of the wing is why airplanes create lift. You can't maintain angle of attack without a horizontal stabilizer and you will stall and nosedive. That's fucking physics. Hard science. You can't argue with that shit.
>>545343374There doesn't seem to be any shrapnel damage you'd expect on the engine nacelles if it blew off the rear stabilizer. I get we only have a couple frames but you'd probably see holes. Chances of the engines not being damaged is low too.
>>545350876>anyone who doesnt believe obvious US government propaganda is a tranny somehow. don't ask me how this makes any sense at all
>>545351294>You would see a specific kind of damage with a surface to air missile.like missing a horizontal stabilizer
>>545351294these aren't just any missile. these are top secret sci. you have ZERO knowledge of how they "would" work or "would approach". clearly plausible one requirement would be minimal damage to identify perpetrator instead of blowing to smitherenes
>>545351410>You can kind of see the stabilizer.I disagree. Using the wings as a reference. The wings disappear and reappear clearly in a few of the frames. The stabilizer is never clearly depicted.
>>545351814You don't have to maintain the angle, as long as you don't touch the plane it should just continue to dive down also I didn't say anything about air brakes. You know nothing about aviation.Without a horizontal stabilizer you won't be able to control it but if the plane is in a acceptable position, it should just glide.
>>545342159You just know the military shot it down like they did with twa 800, except this time they aren't competent enough to keep it quiet
>>545351858In order to reach a horizontal stabilizer at the top of the empennage from a direction below the aircraft, the missile would have to travel through some other part of the aircraft structure. You would also see damage to the vertical stabilizer or lower fuselage. So, no, a missile couldn't target specifically the horizontal stabilizer.
>>545351995>So, no, a missile couldn't target specifically the horizontal stabilizernor would you target it, hitting a plane like that anywhere is going to take it down.
>>545351995or follow it from behind. dumbass. it's not going supersonic. no it would NOT "have to" travel up through some sort of the aircraft. missiles are tiny drones now. welcome to the 2000's
>>545351927Just look in the picture how much of the sky and of the electric pole behind the left wing of the airplane is visible and how well it blends because of the video compression. The stabilizer is much smaller and blends even better. But you can still see some discoloration in the sky especially around the right stabilizer.
>>545351920>these aren't just any missile.The whole thing that started this conspiracy theory is the redeployment of ground based air defenses to Mar-a-Lago. So yes, these are normal missiles using a ground to air profile and they wouldn't attack the top of an aircraft. Unless you are going to argue that it was a Jewish space laser, but it wasn't an accidental shooting from Trump's air defense.
Considering the amount of shills being in full damage control in this thread, it was most likely shot down. I'll investigate this further and will make a new thread for the shot down plane I think. People need to know about this.
>>545352065NOT WITH CONVENTIONAL WEAPONS. this could very well be a special top secret weapon. not inconceivable to only take out a very specific part of an aircraft. only going cruising speed. we're not shooting down missiles here. the track CLEARLY was headed directly over mar-a-lago. the TFR was in place. i have zero doubt in my mind some DEI faggot software engineer blew up this plane.i was on ts projects that literally handed keys to the kingdom to greencard holders! a fucking black as night tennis player new grad was given access to one of the most consequential ISR programs.
>>545352096>cod brain>hur dur it would "have" to only be the missiles *iiii* know about because i play goy shoot em upsfaggot. you have ZERO clue.
>>545352096>but it wasn't an accidental shooting from Trump's air defensepeople, specifically redditrannies, are going to REALLY want that to be the case and are going to pull out all the stops to attempt to prove that's what happened. it's a really god damn weird coincidence that they just put air defense equipment at his house the other day, but there would be a hundred ways to verify if any of it had been used. there's got to be cameras all over the place that would notice a missile launching out of his golf course.
>>545351970>You don't have to maintain the angle, as long as you don't touch the planeLast time I'm going to reply to your bullshit because you are obviously some dumb ass jeet defending your Izzat incapable of admitting you are a fucking retard. The only way aircraft can maintain a stabile flight and have constant lift is for the horizontal stabilizer to create the appropriate angle of attack at the leading edge of the wing to create high pressure under the wing and a zone of lower pressure above the wing. Without the stabilizer, this doesn't happen. Plane falls. This is physics. Now shut the fuck up about it you street-shitting curry monkey.
>>545349172We're out of time.
>>545352248naw. i heard something else. it was only until someone suggested that's what she said that i heard that at all. it's like the blue/gold dress thing again
>>545352101Electronically taken down is what i call it.
>>545352077>or follow it from behind.No, whatever kind of seeker the missile is using, it's going to either lock on to heat (engines) or a large part of the fuselage (laser or radar guidance). No missile just attacks a small flight control at the top of an airplane.
>>545343764Thta makes no sense that one hit sideways waaaaaaaaay slower, if osmething the pentagon should be gone
>>545352225>it's a really god damn weird coincidence that they just put air defense equipment at his house the other dayIf you want my shitty opinion, it isn't a coincidence but the conspiracy isn't a missile taking out a Lear 60. The owner of this aircraft requested that it's historical flight locations are not make available to the general public. That's kind of weird for a charter company (which I believe this is). There is some glowniggery stuff going on here, but it wasn't an air defense fuck up.
>>545352228>a zone of lower pressure above the wing.>Without the stabilizer, this doesn't happen. Plane falls.It does fall but it glides down, there is no reason for the nose to just tilt down for no reason unless it loses its balance. Most likely it would fall down in a circle motion depending on the air flow. You have the pressure from below still going against the wings, with no ability to ascend without the stabilizer, since there is no pressure from above. What is there that is so difficult for you to understand this? Its simple physics.
>>545345776You'll be fine buddy relax
>>545352315>no missile i know about just attacks a small flight controlIt is 100% plausible that something could have targeted the tail, caused specific proximity explosions. All they need is to disable the key flight controls and get whatever it is to crash or go down elsewhere. easy spitball scenario:type of threat "detected" = plane pretending to be normal plane. speed = slow. launch observe and act profile with active on-board AI decision making. launch light munition profile to disable vehicle instead of causing public panic by creating a giant fireball in the sky. the psychological response is just as real. they aren't out here just throwing everything they have at it. they have to decide in real time what is worth public panic.throw off casual war-fags by visibly placing "known" usual SAMs. again. you have NO IDEA what is hidden in places like DC, and now mar-a-lago
>>545345776me too, it's because of the increasing third worldization of our country. We get loony toons deaths like the guy on the roller coasters now
>>545345181Boycott female pilots.
>>545342595>air defenses around Mar-a-lagoyou're funny, anon.
>>545352664you're funny, astroturfer. are you exempt or hourly?
>>545352309>Electronically taken down is what i call it.Look anon. People really want to make this a conspiracy. Doesn't fit. They flew into a Thunderstorm. That's fucking insane. I know exactly how it happened. I know some of the pilots that fly these aircraft and none of the new generation of pilots know how to use a weather radar. They are retards constantly staring at their iPads and the expect the tower to pay attention to this shit, but the people manning the tower are TikTok zoomers now and they can't be bothered to read their weather radar either.
>>545343070Bigger hole than flight 93.
>>545352698It really does look like a crazy coincidence. A crash happening that close and within such a short time of air defenses being deployed is a nutty coincidence for them not to be connected, but the evidence points that way.
>>545352698You're just hurling insults for no reason and so far you have yet to provide one single convincing argument. Not to mention most air plane crashes are usually caused by elderly pilots, that refuse to adapt to new technology and refuse to be told how stuff works by younger people who actually know what they're doing.
>>545352472You are the reason every jeet in the West should be deported to India and then we, as a world, should collectively decide to nuke India. You are too stupid to be talking right now but you can't understand this. Go find the biggest piece of cow shit you can find and choke yourself with it. A plane missing a primary flight control isn't going to glide, regardless of your attempts to preserve your Izzat.
>>545352569oh cut it out you silly kike, stop trying to stir the potlike there aren't enough real conspiracies going on you're launching flat earth tier bullshit to the detriment of humanity and I wish you'd just go back to fapping at loli like the rest of your ilk
>>545352806perfect time to test the system. or alternatively, they didn't account for this particular storm profile in the software made for DC weather. and current combination of DEI ineptitude and CMMC level 3 cyber paranoia hand tying software engineers' ability to adapt, made someone in charge just say "fuck it, we'll make an exception. deploy it in florida, he want's it cuz he's scared, it'll probably work. what could go wrong?"
>>545352874>You're just hurling insults for no reason and so far you have yet to provide one single convincing argument.An airplane is missing a primary flight control and it just apparently glides safely? That's your argument? It's the dumbest fucking argument imaginable and it defies every aspect of known physics, but your Izzat makes you cling to it regardless.
>>545343764There should have been engine parts at the Pentagon.
>>545352953this is a perfect conspiracy. not a kike. fuck jews. son of the american revolution.
>>545342740>>545350306Kill yourselves, gorilla nigger retards.
>>545342159you see the face right
>>545352979well than your honorary you well poisoning faggot might as well go snip the end of your cock off
>>545352957I don't know of any system that will cause icing like that. Certainly didn't generate the storm and even if it did, there's storms everywhere you don't want to fly through.
>>545352875Yes it is and I just explained it to you. It would still be a crash and a uncontrolled descent but in no way would it be straight nose dive.>>545352961I'm saying it would've glided if there was some sort of malfunction and it would still crash. But there is a difference between a glide and a almost straight descent.It doesn't defy physics at all. The only thing that could've caused it to descent like that is if it got shot down by a missile and the impact of the explosion caused it to nose dive like this.In all other cases it would've glided and crashed.
>>545353075>cause icing like thatwtf u talking about? you speak as if icing is a foregone conclusion.Look at the track.Look at the TFR.Look at the altitude track.Not inconceivable that it was disabled because of faulty detections. Result would have been the same with or without the storm. No way to pull up. also, since all the glowfags are here throwing out the "conspiracy" label already, here's one for you:if *I* was lead system engineer on a presidential air defense system, i would absolutely have a mode that reacts in real time to the weather to create the ideal response to a particular threat. not. fucking. hard.
>>545353245I could see an EW system that fucks with the sensors reporting (I thought she was saying she had icing), and cause a shitty pilot to listen to their sensors and not the control response causing them to do something stupid.
>>545353111>Jeet arguing with the physics of flghtShut up jeet. I'm not going to let you preserve your Izzat. You can't maintain angle of attack without the stabilizer being trimmed to create constant lift on the leading edge of the wing. Lose the stabilizer, you lose the lift. You fall. You can repeat your bullshit as many times as you want but you have no idea how an airplane works or how to fly it.
>>545353311I mean...usually yes.
>>545353307>I could see an EW system that fucks with the sensors reportingThe problem is this is an older Lear 60 with an older avionics suite and I'm not sure what EW system would cause a pilot to fly into a storm. You have a mechanical gyro and multiple navigational backups. They had to intentionally fly into a storm.
>>545353412Yeah despite the insane unlikelihood the two are connected...I don't see how this works without flying into a storm.
>>545353311You're arguing with the physics of flight. I mean just take a look at regular gliders or even paper planes. It doesn't work that much different from big planes, its very basic aerodynamics and the reasons why planes can maintain a glide even if some of its primary functions malfunctions.You're just coping and hurling insults without being able to explain anything other than what you've researched from Wikipedia 5 minutes ago. Grasping for straws and blaming young people, probably for just being better at your job.
>>545353402Point taken. Technically speaking though, it would still have a horizontal stabilizer incorporated into the main aircraft structure, it would be the rudder which is completely missing here.
>>545342555checked, jeetin the audio it jumps to 20,000 ft/minfemale pilot though, so either it was a missile or a woman fucked up again
>>545353505I wonder if fine flap control could replicate it, probably not.
