It seems to me that most anons reject almost everything about modern physics.It also seems that there's a political reason for this, but I can't tell what it is.So the question is simply: Why?
>>545349970>Why?science isnt a religion until you abandon the scientific method, you know like empirical observation, repeatable testing and falsifiability. religion relies on dogma (things you must believe), while real science relies on evidence (things you can prove).most jew "science" practiced today is just high budget religious ritualism where jews have forgotten that if an experiment doesnt match their theory the theory was wrong, not reality itself.
>>545349970Basically everything discovered after 1920 is too hard to recreate in highschool labs.
>>545350394So you believe that modern theories are wrong? Why?
>>545349970the way how string theory was explained to me and how magically there is a dimension where it all stops makes no sense to me and seems like they just conveniently decided "it stops here"
>>545350534>So you believecan you read? its not about beliefs. actual real science isnt supposed to be a religion where you believe things because you feel like it.>Why?at least since covid you gotta be aware that mainstream jew science isnt actually looking for truth.they’re looking for job security and grant money from taxpayper cuckolds.the whole system of rockefeller jew "Big Science" is essentially designed as a closed loop.its primary function is indoctrination and disinformation.
>>545349970because part of being scientifically literate is knowing the limitations of what we think we know (have observed)once you get into things that only apply in the realm of math we need to be careful not to kike that shit up.
>>545350534disingenuous faggot that wasn't an accident
>>545350724Don't get distracted, this thread is about physics, not medicine. You do believe that it is possible for a theory to be wrong, correct? And that some theories are wrong? You said this:>if an experiment doesnt match their theory the theory was wrongSo explain what your specific issues are.
>>545350546Can you elaborate on that?
>>545349970I just don't think dark matter and dark energy are anything more than a kludge and we'll eventually uncover better mechanistic explanations for the phenomena and disparities we have summoned them to assuage, sorry liberal/chud!
>>545349970Maybe if you ask a specific question or a scientific one we can give you an answer
Because it's nonsense. Infinity in every direction. Take apart the atom, there are smaller bits inside. Take them apart, there's even more. Or look outwards, suns and stars, it just keeps going forever. Solsr systems z galaxies, these are small. The universe? That's just another atom.
>>545349970this faggot ruined science and every person that tries to defend him is a kike
>>545349970Because they're not expressing what the physics states about existence.Modern physics leads to a conclusion of deterministic fate. The only way the past, the now could exist is if the future already existed too. So if the future already exists, then everything we do is the result of the circumstances of our existence and not the result of choice, free will.The only moments of free will that are allowed in decisions that do not matter, meaning their impact has zero influence on the rest of the continuum. For everything else, we're just following the path.
>>545350909they claim the math stops at 10th dimension but im not convniced
>>545351045From my understanding modern physics is specifically not deterministic but probabilistic. Anyway, I think what you're saying is that the rejection is for philosophical reasons. Is that wise?
>>545351133IDK what it means for math to stop at a dimension. Can you explain?
>>545350546>string theorywith string theory the last tenuous link with reality is broken and the jew theorists arrive at a hypothesis which makes no predictions about the real world.>>545350848>this thread is about physics, not medicine.same institutions, same funding sources, same goals.If you think "Big Science" doesn't exist in one field, you're delusional.>You do believe that it is possible for a theory to be wrong, correct?of course but modern Quantum Mechanics isnt even trying to be right it's designed so it can never be wrong because it lacks true falsifiability. it relies on probabilistic jew math rather than empirical mechanics. it's essentially modern ritualism dressing up as measurement.>So explain what your specific issues are.its a very long exhausting list like the:gravity bias and ignoring the massive role of plasma/electromagnetism in large scale structures (the universe isn't mostly empty space, its an active electric medium).mathematical mysticism where they are treating abstract equations as reality itself rather than approximations of real, structured matter.the death of the particle, using probability waves to hide the fact that they don't understand the actual internal structure of atoms. etc.
>>545351226Philosophically is the only way we can reject it. I'm not autistic enough to dive into the numbers. Also I'm not really sure how you're arriving at the probablistic conclusion, though I'm guessing its the wave form not coalescing until observation, but that should help arrive at the deterministic.Maybe the choices made in the present changing the results of the past, but that very well could be what was determined too.If free will were possible then that would mean we'd eventually arrive at the enacting the destruction of the time line, which for all intents and purposes appears to not be the case with my experiencing existence at this moment.
>>545349970Modern particle physics and quantum field theory is said to be the crown jewel of science with the most accurate predictions.If you actually study its history beyond surface level, it's a singular measurement of the anomalous magnetic moment of the electron - and the "predicted value" has in fact changed since the prediction was first established several decades ago. Why would it have changed since it was first introduced? Because they keep adding more terms to the feynman diagram. One year researchers even published a mistaken calculation, and experimenters "confirmed" this error with an erroneous experiment. Oops.Anyway, most other measurements in physics are nowhere near as accurate as that single experimental measurement. Physicists aren't even sure what the lone neutron halflife should be - it changes depends on how it's measured.There is a zoo of particles that were predicted and never showed up in any particle accelerators.There is a scientific guild - to get ahead you have to play the game and pretend to believe in the same things - and I think anons are against such guildlike thinking. Max Planck famously remarked that scientific advancements in thinking happen more because the old guard dies off, rather than because existing scientists have been convinced.String theory will probably die off with Susskind's generation after having not shown any particularly interesting results in decades.
>>545351530>the universe isn't mostly empty space, its an active electric mediumThat's pretty specific. Can you further explain what that means and why you believe it?
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Esteemed physicist Eric Weinstein claims that billionaire venture capitalist Marc Andreessen was told by the White House that the government has purposefully stagnated physics research. He was told that during the cold war entire areas of physics were classified and taken out of research communities and those fields went dark and never advanced. They also said they may do the same thing to AI. x.com/newstart_2024/status/1975316849207529940
>>545351004https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTYIKPcPRRQ
>>545351676it means the universe is permeated by conductive currents and electromagnetic fields that dictate large scale structure, its not just gravity in a vacuum like jews "teached" you.you probably heard about it that in mainstream jew models space is treated as an empty void right?but space is actually a medium filled with ionized gas (plasma) carrying massive electrical currents (birkeland currents), we see it in radio astronomy via large scale filamentary structures that gravity alone cant pull into shape. thats why jews had to invent dark matter, unfalsifiable undetectable bullshit.
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>>545352031Is this gas that fills space hydrogen or something else?
>>545352209calling it just gas is a massive oversimplification.plasma is an electrically conductive state of matter. its actually the first state of matter. its everywhere.
>>545350534seems that poster wasn't speculating on the validity of the theory but rather claiming that modern scientists don't follow the scientific method.
>>545352744What is its chemical composition?
>>545352832plasma isnt a specific element. its a state of matter. the composition depends entirely on where you are in the cosmic circuit
>>545350546>the way how string theory was explained to me and how magically there is a dimension where it all stops makes no sense to me and seems like they just conveniently decided "it stops here"You're just not smart enough to figure it out. Leave it to the scholars who know what they are doing. Now hand over the research money.
>>545353113So there are a lot of different types of plasma filling the universe? Do you have a list?Incidentally since we're talking about space, do you think humans have ever been to the moon?
>>545352031Fuck off electric universe faggot
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>>545353394does a person who just learned what a liquid is ask for a list of all liquids?again for the third time now: plasma isnt a substance, its a state.you can have hydrogen plasma, oxygen plasma, or carbon plasma. In the universe, we see a spectrum ranging from simple protons in deep space to complex heavy metal ions near stars. >humans have ever been to the moon?no its a fake and gay psyops.>>545353482no
>>545353759Well excuse me, I've never heard of your theory. How am I supposed to know the nature of this plasma?>plasma isnt a substance, its a state.Isn't liquid also a state of matter? Water is a substance, wouldn't you agree?
>>545349970Even physicists will tell you their field is "dead".
>>545353759>does a person who just learned what a liquid is ask for a list of all liquids?kek, um well there dr. peper, orange fanta, clear, and others
>>545353999>How am I supposed to knowread a book nigga>Isn't liquid also a state of matter? Water is a substance, wouldn't you agree?Liquid defines the phase, while Water defines the identity and when we talk about the plasma filling the universe we are talking about its phase.which tells us how it conducts electricity and reacts to magnetic fields.Its identity varies depending on where you are:like in an interstellar cloud the identity is ionized Hydrogen/Helium.near a star for example the identity is highly ionized heavy metals like iron or silicon.you cant ask for "the" chemical composition of a state.It would be like asking what is the flavor profile of solid foods?some solids are sugar, some are salt, some are wood.similarly, some plasmas are hydrogen, some are carbon, etc.
>>545354442why can't we see all this plasma though?
>>545354442Okay so what is the plasma that's in what's commonly called empty space, like around the moon?
>>545354442so this is plasma, but if 99% is plasma why can't we see it like this anon said>>545354525
>>545349970Too much horseshit in pop media that forgot "shut up and calculate">DUUUDE ALTERNATE UNIVERSESWhat the math could imply doesn't existThought experiments have never happenedThe math today is just better at predicting numbers and positions of particles than earlier math
>>545354525there are different modes of discharge depending on the energy density and the environment.if you only look for things that glow intensely you are ignoring the vast majority of the cosmic circuit.also you don't see it because your eyes arent tuned to the entire electromagnetic spectrum.>>545354594is it so difficult to understand that you have to stop thinking that "empty space" is one consistent uniform thing? space has local environments. most of the space around the moon for example is filled with ionized hydrogen and helium flowing out from the sun. unlike earth which has a magnetic field that pushes most of this plasma away into a bow shock the moon is basically naked.this means the lunar environment is constantly being bathed in this low density plasma.
>>545354623>why can't we see itsee >>545354944also to elaborate further:>arc mode:this is basically lightning or welding arcs or the sun. Its high current, highly luminous, and very violent.>glow mode:think of a neon sign or the aurora borealis. the current density is lower, creating a beautiful, steady light as electrons collide with atoms.most of the pretty stuff in nebulas operates in this mode. its visible because we are looking at specific conditions where light is emitted during ionization.>dark current mode:in many regions of space the electric field is strong enough to move ions around but not intense enough to cause constant, photon emission via collisions.these are massive silent currents flowing through the interstellar medium.they carry incredible amounts of energy across galaxies but they dont necessarily emit bright light unless they hit an obstruction or undergo a sudden breakdown.
>>545354944I guess I worded it badly, what I meant was that if all this plasma was out there, everywhere, surely any amateur or hobbist would be able to detect atleast something and it would obviously disprove current physics, this isn't something that can just be hidden
>>545354944I didn't know that there was a source of this plasma either. So the plasma around the moon is emanated from the sun. Does all of this omnipresent plasma come from stars? And how heavy is this flow? How many tons of plasma does the moon receive from the sun per year?
>>545349970everything that wants to harm me is my enemy.niggers, jews.... niggers and jews scientists...simple as
>>545351045Not science obviouslybut people that do out of body experience claim existence are like video games or a simulation. The existence/construct was created by a person, or a group of people/souls, and the other souls just decide to join the game. The main story has a predetermined beginning, middle and end, we can make choices in our personal lives and play as we want but the main story can't be changed. Also the current existence is supposedly close to ending. After is over you can create your own world, join another one that already exists or just remain in a higher plane watching others exist.
>>545355149jews ignore the most obvious clues and most people look at scientific data through the lens of the jewish gravity only model.when they see something their jew math cant explain or didnt anticipate they don't say, "Oh, there must be an electric current here"instead, these jews invent a new mystery like Dark Matter or Dark Energy to make the old failed jew theory work and to get more taxmoney from goyims.
>>545355280>they don't go for the unproven theory I favour, instead they make their ownseriously?
>>545355162you should stop thinking of plasma as something poured out by a star and start seeing it as the natural state of matter whenever energy levels get high enough.>How many tons of plasma does the moon receive from the sun per year?looking at it as just tonnage misses the point entirely.in plasma cosmology the important measurement isnt the weight.we measure the current density and the electric potential.its an active, kinetic pressure that shapes the lunar environment through sputtering and electrostatic charging.
>>545355387they design curricula specifically to filter out anyone with actual independent thought or fringe theories to ensure everyone stays within the jew approved boundries.once you have a population of "educated" jew researchers who all think exactly the same way, the gatekeeping becomes easy.peer review also isn't a quality control measure for truth, for these jews its just a social mechanism installed by the elite jews to protect their territory and ensure that taxpayer niggercattle money/treasury funds continue to flow into established jew departments rather than disruptive new ideas.if you challenge the status quo, you arent wrong in their eyes, you're just unscientific which is their favorite way to silence dissent without actually having to disprove anything.
>>545350394>the scientific methodIs a valid epistemology but not the only one
>>545355424>looking at it as just tonnage misses the point entirely.>in plasma cosmology the important measurement isnt the weight.But this plasma does have mass that can be measured, right? So how much is the sun putting out? I don't care if it's unimportant.
>>545355280>get more taxmoney from goyims.they have a deep and more insidious incentive. would you say dark plasma currents are akin to the ocean thermohaline circulation
>>545355512So you know how the moon orbits the earth? You can say it's "bound" to the earth, it's "captured by" the earth, however you wanna say it. But if the Moon was moving faster, if it had more energy, it wouldn't bind to the earth It would be free-floating, zooming right past the earth without being captured.That's plasma. When the material has so much energy, the electron doesn't bind to the proton, it just sails right past them. The electrons and protons no longer combine into a bonded state, but what we call a plasma state. Plasma has electric charge, unsurprisingly.
>>545355494true but in the current state of "Big Science" we have seen a disastrous inversion of roles.in the "deductive" jewish method of science, a vote of the jewish experts determines when and if a theory is correct.once such a theory has been accepted, it is not easily rejected in light of conflicting evidence.It is, however, often modified and made more complicated.When over time a theory becomes officially accepted, the essence of the matter has been settled and fixed. Modifications to the fine points of the theory can then be proposed and debated, but the backbone structure of the theory is set.That framework has already been firmly established.An inherent flaw lurking in this method is:>What if your “obviously correct,” basic, starting point presumption is wrong?real Science places first priority on the empirical method.The deductive method is (should be) secondary used to derive testable consequences from empirically generated hypotheses.Inverting these priorities makes science into a pseudo-religion.In religions, revelations of truth take precedence over worldly observations of fact.In those scientific circles where the deductive method reigns supreme, theory takes precedence over empirical facts.Einstein and Hawking were frank about this view of the interdependence of reality and theory.their theoretical physical sciences apparently failed to notice that the repeated application of the empirical method is how this interdependence is refined and reality becomes known.This oversight that placed deductive assumptions beyond question has gained theoreticians the stature of priests but at the expense of losing touch with reality.
>>545349970Collect all the Capsems!
>>545351530>he death of the particle, using probability waves to hide the fact that they don't understand the actual internal structure of atoms. etc.Call me an idiot but I've come to the conclusion that it's just geometry. Like oxygen isn't a nucleus with 8 electrons, it's a cube, with 8 corners. I think that's how every element actually is, it's not electrons orbiting a nucleus, it's angles of a geometric shape.The real science is clearly not available in any university, I also believe more advanced science and technology has been hidden and kept underground. There's no way we actually still need to use oil and coal, or even nuclear power.
>>545355512you are operating on pure pajeet logic treating the universe like a pile of dirt instead of a complex electrical system.you are asking for tonnage because your brain is stuck in a linear, newtonian loop trying to apply primitive mass based measurements to high energy plasma dynamics.that is such a massive failure in dimensional analysis that its almost comical.>does the solar wind have mass?of course it does but in plasma cosmology measuring "tons" is like trying to measure the volume of a lightning bolt with a teaspoon.Its irrelevant.what matters isn't how heavy the particles are but their charge density their velocity flux and the electromagnetic potential they carry through the circuit.we don't care about the weight of the current, we care about the work it performs.but you wouldnt know that because you lack any grasp of spatial complexity or non uniformity.to you space is just a flat undifferentiated plane filled with "stuff".you think if something exists it has to be a discrete measurable amount of weight sitting there waiting to be counted.if one thing happens you assume it applies generally across all scales without realizing that scale dictates behavior.honestly, at this point you have hit your intellectual ceiling.every time I give you a fundamental truth you pivot back to these tiny small brain pajeet questions, trying to find an easy A -> B pattern so you don't have to deal with the reality of gradients and field interactions.eventually, you’ll do what every other failed jeet does, you will retreat into post modernist nihilism.you'll say, "Well, reality is just whatever you perceive" just so you never have to admit your basic assumptions were wrong from the start.
>>545355820>The real science is clearly not available in any universityYep. Its private and is kept secret by the MIC. All formal "education" necessarily leads students away from the classified knowledge.
>>545356106Again I don't care if it's unimportant or irrelevant.If you don't know then you can just say so. I doubt you will and I also doubt you'll give any answer. Prove me right in this and I'll stop talking to you.
>>545355820>but I've come to the conclusion that it's just geometryand actually you are right. it is geometry but oxygen isnt the best example, O16 is a distorted half capped icosahedron with an open V gap pic rel.It is not a pure icosahedron, and it is not a larger platonic solid.>The real science is clearly not available in any universityand nobody seems to care all that much. people are happy with the mystery box probability bullshit that jews sell.
>>545356370>people are happy with the mystery box probability bullshit that jews sell.Honestly the main thing that made me question accepted mainline science is the modern soimale "omg I love science" people, like they are actually all some variation of the stereotypical soimale and don't resemble anything like what men of science and empiricism used to actually look like.Something about the complete and total lack of new things that improve the quality of my life is just massive, like a giant gaping hole that I can't pretend not to see.
>>545349970>It seems to me that most anons reject almost everything about modern physics.This only holds true on /pol/ and for american flags>Why?because they are retarded, brown christmutts
>>545356249thats a cute little jeet ultimatum but you misunderstood the situation entirely.I'm not struggling to find an answer, you're struggling to ask a meaningful question.
>>545356628Did you read the thread?
>>545353482shills out themselves so easily nowadays.
>>545356575>total lack of new thingsthere hasnt ever been such a long period of theoretical and technological stagnation as right now.despite the well justified critiques by the pioneers of quantum mechanics and their successors the philosophy that drove a wedge between observation and theory is as evident in the early part of this period as in the latter.and it is this philosophy that propelled the flight from experimental science.Einstein, in his words, "sought to know God's thoughts."Dirac writes, "It is more important to have beauty in ones equations than to have them fit experiment because the discrepancy may be due to minor features that are not properly taken into account and that will get cleared up with further developments of the theory."This is exactly the reasoning used today by scientists who ignore inconvenient observational results.
>>545356106>that scale dictates behaviorThats what I was thinking about aliensLike for example, there might be living beings on Jupiter or Saturn, but they are made from material according to survival in given environment. We just cant detect them or measure them, because we are on different place in the "scale"
>>545349970I know it's somewhat >>>/x/ but a lot of "contactees" have talked about how HUMANS have discovered "overunity energy production" and "anti-gravity" again and again and how it's been suppressed over and over.It's important that HUMANS discovered these things rather than aliens giving or helping us to discover them. Things discovered by HUMANS are the legal intellectual property of ALL HUMANITY (at least according to "galactic law").
>>545356575>"omg I love science" people,you mean like fancy science nigger
>>545357393Life is a thermodynamic necessity and physics forces complexity into existence wherever energy flows, a mechanism used by the universe to dissipate energy gradients more efficiently.this is governed by non equilibrium thermodynamics (NET).while the 2nd law says total entropy must increase, local pockets of order can emerge if they are fueled by a flow of energy.a living organism is a highly efficient entropy pump and it takes low entropy energy from its surroundings and exhausts high entropy waste into the environment to maintain its own internal complexity.life is basically the most complex, self replicating version of a dissipative structure.so if there is a sustained energy gradient, whether its on a dwarf star, near a hydrothermal vent or within a nebula, the laws of thermodynamics dictate that matter will organize itself into increasingly complex patterns to process that flux.
>>545357963lol
