It was at this moment that she knew... she fucked up
Did she get to the point where she'd given up attempting to pull up and crash land and just went fuck it, let's go out in style
>>545353167She was the co-pilot you know.
>>545353167Can you use air brakes?
>>545353167Vaxx status?
>>545353254Pretty hard to pull up when your horizontal stabilizer is gone. Also, judging by the screaming I'm pretty sure she knew she fucked up a good while before this moment.
>>545353167qrd?I saw this pic posted elsewhere too
>>545353167Maga pilot.
>>545353167>female pilots
>>545353710Republican female.
>>545353616Learjet crashed, most likely due to icing.
>>545353167She was the co-pilot.
>>545353167https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaIFLR8xLJY&t=14s
>>545353616At this point seems like aircraft flew into extremely poor weather, iced up badly, stalled, plummeted toward the ground losing its horizontal stabilizer at some point and slamming into the ground at 1 billion miles per hour.
>>545353167She should if asked ChatGPT what to do
>>545353167https://youtu.be/GV-z2DZ4_Pk?is=ISMd036QDC8Lz-we
>>545353761It was HER turn at the yoke!
>>545353785You're supposed to avoid bad weather why did she aim for it?
>>545353167I think this was it
>>545353616Severe icing froze the controls and the plane nosedived into the ground at Mach 2.Partly vaporised instantly along with the passengers and whatever didn’t shatter into a million tiny pieces probably looks like a flattened tin can at the bottom of the hole.
>>545353843Speaking as an AME, weather is one of the most common items of aircrew fuckups in my experience. It always seems like its something that can be avoided, like you can use your weather radar to go around it, like its not gonna be a big deal. Combine that with the hassle that it can cause if the pilot calls off a flight due to bad weather leading to passengers angry and stranded and whatnot and plenty of pilots make terrible decisions just to keep things moving. Every so often the price of those decisions comes due. People are still just as stupid as ever, professional credentials and experience be damned.
>>545353167At first I was thinking why didn’t she give her final goodbyes but I considered myself in that scenario and the only thing I would be thinking about was stopping the crash because the passengers depend on me. She died terrified, but at least she gave it her all.
>>545353167Women will really do anything except cook, clean, and suck dick.
If they opened the window, and jumped off of the plane and the exact moment it hit, ignoring the obvious environmental damage from fire - do you think they could have survived?
>>545354268Depends on their squat, gonna need powerful thighs to jump with enough force but the theory is sound
>>545354268if they barrel rolled while jumping out the plane, yes
>>545353985It should be extremely obvious in Florida. But it seems they thought they could just climb a little bit or something, which is wrong. I saw some people saying it was just freak weather conditions, but no, it was very normal for that region and they were stupid.
>>545353805>should ifamericans now spell 'have' as 'if'.
>>545354255As a woman, I can confirm this. Well I do cook, but only for myself.
I can only wish my death is as quick
>>545353372
>>545354467I'll take a painful death I didn't see coming vs minutes of panic/stress before a painless death.
>>545353836Shattering the glass... ground?
>>545354398Leaving the ice forming layer is standard practice from what I read, whether thats going up, down, or to the side. The pilot possibly left it too late, then was fucked.
>>545354501I think this was just a minute from when they realized it was over to being over. Horrible for that minute 100%, but I kinda meant that over like a terminal illness where you keep wasting away and are in pain.
>>545353167Dr. Pavel I'm She-IA.
>>545354600>For poo
>>545353167What's important is that a bunch of rich people died. I can't wait for the passenger list to be released.
>>545354461It's your funeral. Literally, in this case. I don't think I'll ever be able to really understand the level of spite cunts have towards men that they'd rather inflict all sorts of pain, horror and death upon themselves rather than just throat a cock 5 mins per day.
>>545353289>She was the co-pilot you know.Listen to the ATC audio though. She's unprofessional AF and the pilot allowed it. No way that was a professional, sterile cockpit. She should never have been in an airplane.
>>545354501Yeah I feel like a car ramming into you and your body being broken and you sitting there a few minutes while you go into shock and expire is genuinely better than the psychological horror of knowing you're about to die in a couple minutes and there is absolutely nothing you can do to stop it, even though you won't feel any pain. Something unbelievably shitty about getting time to reckon with your death, but not enough to truly come to grips like when you have months/years to process. I either want 0 seconds to process my death or >3 months, and nothing in between.
>>545353372>Can you use air brakes?Air brakes and thrust reversers are used to reduce speed when you land. You can't use them in the air.
>>545354544I know what you mean, but they flew into a thunderstorm core in the first place. An expected outcome in that case is icing and loss of control. It has to be avoided well before then.
>>545353531sadly, we will never know.
Nice and fast way to depart this shitty universe, I try not to be too jealous.
>>545354722I am attracted to men, I just refuse to be a sex slave. Guess you will have to use faggots to suck your cock now.
>>545354833Sorry but they went right back into the reincarnation matrix, gonna need to do better then that to get out of here.
>>545354853Yeah but that's just a platitude that's been put into your empty little head by kikes, who incidentally want you to be their literal slave instead. I'm not a lawn slave when I get up every Saturday to mow. You're not a sex slave if you show your appreciation to someone you supposedly love by waking them up with a blowjob to make their hole day. It's ridiculous
>>545353254Women don't think during a crisis, their brain just turns to fear
>>545354734retard they were about to die because the stabilizer broke off, and they knew it. Try being professional when you know you are about to die
>>545353167>flying through a rain cloud>"Golly gee willickers. There's ice on my wings and turbulance.">"It's -47C outside. I should fly higher. Maybe, right into that giant storm cloud full of rain and hail!">Plane immediately becomes block of fucking ice.>MAYDAY! MAYDAY!>MAYBE IF I BANK 60 DEGREES AT A BILLION MILES AN HOUR AAAAAAAWomen were a mistake.Her last thoughts were of BBC
>>545353785at least the massive amount of g's they were doing as they were flipping gave those people no time for their brains to realize they were about to die and was just trying to deal with the gforce
>>545354268Only if they were a cartoon rabbit
>>545353167I voted for this. You're welcome.
>>545353785I understand it stalling and going nose down. But why would it fall so fast?
>>545354764You can’t just reverse thrusters like that
So why do they call it a horizontal stabilizer when the piece that is missing controls the pitch up/down? Looks like they lost vertical stabilization then lol.
>>545355087New term unlocked: Terminal vertical destabilization event
I thought these things had hydraulics that could break ice?
>>545353576>Also, judging by the screaming I'm pretty sure she knew she fucked up a good while before this moment.It's kind of an interesting sequence of events. They are getting iced. Air temp is -47 Celsius. They are in precipitation. They climb to get out of the ice and then lose control and nosedive. Only moderate turbulence. Co-Pilot starts screaming and acting like a little girl instead of calmly relaying info to the tower. It seems like they didn't have time to figure out what the fuck happened, but the pilot did bank and try to recover. I don't think they every realized how they fucked up or why. The lost the stabilizer when they climbed, which is weird.
>>545353167Skyking could have pulled out of it
>>545354875Prove it, jeet.
>>545353752>Learjet crashed, most likely due to icing.Icing can cause a stall, but it's more of a gradual stall. This was something else. Catastrophic mechanical failure probably of the horizontal stabilizer.
>>545354919>their brain just turns to fearshe was alternating back and forth between hysterical screaming and acceptance they were going to die. I dont think the hysterical screaming was helping the situation and I think you can hear the male pilot praying for the screaming to stop.
>>545355224they already released the black box or is this just hypothesis?
>>545354236>At first I was thinking why didn’t she give her final goodbyesThe time from loss of control to hitting the ground was about 40 seconds and they crashed about 2 seconds after they realized they were fucked. So she didn't have time for that.
>>545355255ATC guy posted the audio for internet clout They’ve been fired
>>545355155>They climb to get out of the icethey flew directly into a storm cell. Icing and strong downdraft/micro burst and icing and the plane lost altitude and pitched over accerlating also to 'overspeed' and then probably lost the horizontal stabilizer (ripped off) then there was no way to pull up and just went straight in at full speed.
>>545354255Because media and Turk rats told them to pretend their men while they are the only ones to have familiesWomen can’t research so they believe in any lies told to them by Hollywood and faggy entertainers
>>545355255https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqVFv7WAdJE
>>545354853> Property of the state has an opinionThat is a great suggestion, by all accounts they are on average far more competent at it than women.Unfortunately being a woman you value yourself primarily as a sexual being, therefore it matters not if you are a sex slave for a man, as you will always be a slave to your own nature.
>>545355279It was 74 seconds
>>545353785
>>545355087They are stabilizers that are horizontal
>>545355255>they already released the black box or is this just hypothesis?the audio of the crash has been released its all over the internet. You can hear her calmly talking with ATC at first then the plane is dropping fast, then diving even faster and she starts screaming. She had no idea what was really going on .
>>545353167Is this how Gen Z brain really works? I thought it was just an online meme. Do you really see a tragedy and that voice clip "it was at this moment" plays in your head? What else goes on in that head? Do you play a muted GTA driving clip when your parents talk so you can focus?
>>545355312She forgot to activate the anti-gravity polarity field to reverse direction to outer space.
>>545355331>you value yourself primarily as a sexual beingI never felt that way. That must mean I am a man in female body.
*Frasier theme plays*
>>545355490Wouldn't that make you one of the faggots you recommended men find to suck their dick?
>>545354268Only if they ripped all of the foam padding off the seats and threw it at the ground under them to make a big pillow to land on.
>>545355472Should have shunted power from the weapons systems to the engines too
>>545354931>retard they were about to die because the stabilizer broke offLook faggot, part of your training as a pilot is to keep your shit together until the very end because if you start to lose your shit, you start to make mistakes that will get you killed. You need to be calm, in control, and convey info until the end. Any hope of living rests on your professional demeanor and conduct. She immediately lost her shit and started acting like a child. That tells me she was unprofessional and didn't take this shit seriously, which also makes me question what other aspects of piloting an aircraft she just kind of girl bossed over. This woman shouldn't have been allowed near an airplane.
>>545354906So you should understand me. I dont mind mowing the lawn, I do it every week too. I just dont want to have sex with men, exactly like you.
>>545353167>>545354734>>545355224Autistic foid here. Both parents worked in the airline industry. There wasn't anything she could have done to save the plane in that scenario. It doesn't matter that she was screaming at all, she would have died even if she were calm. I'm more interested in whether or not she was responsible for the error of flying into the updraft. Even if you're a woman, it's obvious that you shouldn't that. It points to someone else accidentally guiding her into it. Not ruling out personal error, this one isn't giving me DEI vibes but I could be wrong, maybe she really was retarded.>Should women be pilots?Copilots maybe, but I'd still trust a male pilot over a female pilot. It depends on the individual but as a whole we are way less equipped to handle life or death stressful situations where thinking rationally is important. So a woman can fly a plane fine until something goes wrong, and when it goes wrong she will be much less adept at fixing the situation. Except there wasn't anything she could have done to fix the situation so there's that I guess.
>>545353576eject?
>>545355454FR whenever I'm monologuing and shit I imagine a rando video game in the background like you know if you're making content and you've got some random ass moving character like a car or something.
>>545355062>But why would it fall so fast?Only explanation is catastrophic loss of horizontal stabilizer.
>>545355362We need to ban assault planes
>>545355081I've already said you can't use thrust reversers in the air. But yes, airplanes do have thrust reversers and you absolute do use them when you land to reduce your speed.
>>545355573Yeah, so you aren't attracted to men, then.
>>545355575>Autistic foid hereTits or gtfo.
>>545353167OH MY GOD LOOK OUT THE WINDOWWE'RE OUT OF TI- ACK
>>545355526Faggots are women in male bodies. I am a man in female body. Big difference.
>>545355366I see it in the way as the vertical tailpiece is still there that controls yaw which is horizontal movement, hence horizontal stabilizer. The flat horizontal piece is missing which controls pitch up/down, which would be vertical stabilizer. I demand a rename in aviation.
>>545355626But why not try them anyway? I mean, what’s the worst that can happen if it fails? You crash at an 89* bank instead of an 85*
>>545355362this gotta be up there with that submarine implodingis there anyway we coulda unfucked that plane, appearently it dropped from 30k feet to 8k feet in 60 secsif the stabilizer got fucked could she have just tried to roll the plane on it's side or some shit
>>545354691Won't be Jews, they'd never use a woman pilot
>>545353167>she fucked
>>545355087>So why do they call it a horizontal stabilizer when the piece that is missing controls the pitch up/down?It's a counterintuitive aircraft thing. It's because it controls movement along the horizontal plane. Think of it like a hinge or a pivot point. The hinge is horizontal but the parts connected to the hinge move up and down.
>>545355559She barely screamed. She made one kind of cute scream. You're just a retard who hates on women because you hate cuteness.
This story is the single most depressing thing I've seen all year.
>>545355151>I thought these things had hydraulics that could break ice?Lol. No. They have different systems. Wings usually have bleed air ducts (air syphoned from the engine) to melt the ice. Some have boots and electrical heaters. The stabilizer usually doesn't have de-icing systems on smaller aircraft.
>>545355645I am platonically attracted to them. I wouldnt mind to do a physical work for a man out of love, but my body belongs to me only and no other human is allowed to touch it.
>>545355575Hi Miia-chan, big fan.
>>545355688No, faggots don't think they're women on any level, they're just men attracted to men. If you're a "man in a woman's body" (you aren't, you have no frame of reference on how it feels to be anything except a foid, including attention seeking self-deceptions like this), and you are attracted to men (you aren't, you are a raging dyke), that would make you a faggot. In any case, I'm not getting paid in blowjobs or at least $100 per hour to speak to you here and I can feel my IQ dropping, I think you've used up your free male superintelligence tokens with me for the day. Hope you warm up to the taste of cum because otherwise you're just gonna die alone and be eaten by your cats. Cya.
>>545355585>eject from a learjet i've never even been in one and I know that's not a thing.
>>545354268Only if they have the ability to jump up at the speed of 22,000 feet per minute, which requires only like 250k pounds of force. Do you think your legs could manage that?
>>545355738Stop simping. She’s not going to let you fuck her corpse you dumb troon.
>>545353167The ATC sounded like he didn't give a single fuck.
>>545354853>>545354853Hello sister! It's rare to see another woman on /pol/. Girl to girl, you are a brainwashed retard and everything you use that makes your daily life easier was invented and implemented by men. If men all disappeared you would die within a month. You have zero value to anybody, including yourself. I hope that makes sense.
Something something Green Acres Trump conspiracy something...
>>545355761Have you tried looking outside at the shithole nation you live in?
>>545355738stfu simp bitch. the cunt is dead and brought 8 people with her bitch ass. go white knight for a living, breathing bitch if you must, you pathetic faggot. You can't fuck the dead gash and it isn't going to fuck you for being "nice", sick fuck.
>>545355810>he fell for the trollThis is an 18+ board only jimbo
>>545355843It was the end of his shift. He was hoping they’d stay aloft long enough for him to go home and let it be someone else’s problem
>>545355761>I am forgotten...2026? Oh, haha. I barely started that year. I wonder how it went? Too bad I'll never know, being a dead teenager and all that.
>>545355525
>>545355845>Girl to girlYWNBAW
>>545355833I've always had strong legs, and there would be a little bit of adrenaline that would help
>>545355708> tried to roll the plane
>>545354268If you climbed to the rear of the plane and opened a door/hatch then theoretically the explosion should blow you clear of the danger zone, as long as you tucked and rolled when you landed should be fine
>>545355224>last thing you hear is some foid freaking the fuck out instead of acting like a man she believes she is larping asPoor guy. At least it's quiet for him now. No nagging, no screaming, no pointless yapping. Rest in True Peace, cap!
>>545355810okay, but why not just use a parachute and jump out then?its so fucking simple
>>545355891I think you're looking for reddit? It's over there next to the tranny club and fag bars.
>>545355962>t. ranny
>>545356035again, YWNBAW
>>545355362Did the plane land on a car?
>>545355932And now he is probably drowning in paperwork and investigations maybe I dunno I have no idea how this shit works.
>>545355839>Stop simping.No. She's my pilot mommy gf. Checkem'.
>>545355575Yep, remember how easy it was to break a ice covered branch off a tree. Think about the same pressure applied from that draft as they're climbing to the tail, shit just starts snapping right off.
>>545355618>Your plane only needs 10 seats. >Only airlines should be allowed to operate planes.>No child should have to live in fear of being involved in a plane crash. >The Wright brothers didn't intend for civilians to own planes like the ones we have nowadays.>Are you compensating for something with your plane?>Plane crashes blow the lungs out of the body.>If you own a plane you're more likely to be killed in a midair collision. >Protect kids, not planes.>Why don't you join the air force if you want to fly planes?
She wasn't even piloting it, she was relaying information. People making it all about her when it had more to do with flight traffic control telling her to descend into a thunderstorm and the fact learjets are flying shit cans.
>>545356089No
>>545354544Any commercial airline would have been a minimum of 20+ miles away. Why do these business jet types fly straight into the worst of the storms in small 1970s era jets.
we are too comfortable having these flying death machines all over the place flying over our heads. somehow 9/11 didnt wake us all up. fuck the airplane economy. we must RETVRN to the train economy.
>>545356089The car was the target. Probably some ex bf she wanted to show how cool she was being a co pilot.
>>545355312>they flew directly into a storm cell. Icing and strong downdraft/micro burst and icing and the plane lost altitudeIcing is usually a more gradual build up and the effect is usually an increased stall speed on the wings. This wouldn't create a condition where an airplane would immediately stall, nosedive, and crash in about a minute. It would be a longer sequence of events. Something happened on the climb which caused the stabilizer to separate from the aircraft and I think this caused the nosedive. Also, the increased speed from the nosedive itself would help you recover from the stall, presuming the aircraft was intact, and this should have prevented an overspeed condition which would damage the stabilizer. Assuming the pilot wasn't a complete idiot and knew how to recover from a stall.
>>545355559Eat shit you fucking retard. You're sitting at your mom's house right now, fat and dysgenic, talking all this shit, proving you don't know a fucking thing.I bet you'd piss and shit your pants at a mere fraction of what she was experiencing. I'd tell you to kill yourself but I can tell you're a big fat pussy so that's pointless.
>>545355839>>545355874You're both leftoids larping.
>>545356163all it takes is for your pilot to think they are so hecking special and they are just built different
>>545356164..How does this even affect you personally? The plane didn't even touch you. You're just anti-plane, is all.
>>545356089the only people who died were the bird larpers
>>545355362Pretty sure I could've survived this
>>545356021They were in -47F temps with moisture from an updraft. The water flash froze on the surface of the plane and made it unresponsive. All the retards on here talking from sheer ignorance sure is annoying. The internet was much better before such low IQ cretins could access it.
>>545355705>But why not try them anyway?They are basically flaps at the end of the exhaust and redirect thrust upware. They work on the ground because your speed is relatively slow. At 20,000 feet per second, they'd just get ripped off the aircraft, assuming the hydraulic actuators could even deploy them.
>>545356226>You're just anti-plane, is all.
>>545355062Difficult to explain aerodynamic shit happens at high speed/altitude especially with high swept back wing aircraft like Learjets. Something like the center of lift moves backwards as the wing stalls and there’s basically no way to recover in that type of aircraft. Once they’re in a near free fall descent, pieces of the jet start falling off and there’s nothing you can do. Pretty rough way for the passengers to go. They all were ready to party in the Bahamas and instead got smacked into the asphalt.
>>545356178>Icing is usually a more gradual build up and the effect is usually an increased stall speed on the wings.You're talking from PURE ignorance. All the information you need to deduce what happened she said in that short audio clip.Seriously shut the fuck up and stop posting, you're selfishly lowering the aggregate IQ of /pol/ right now. Stop your incessant stupidity and go to bed you fucktard.
>>545353167It wasn't a plane, it was a missile, and it was shot by the US government.
>>545355843>The ATC sounded like he didn't give a single fuck.That is how you are supposed to sound. That's the demeanor you need. Controlled. Sterile. Calm. Not emotionally affected. Logical. Robotic. That's not the demeanor the female pilot had. She completely lost her shit and started fucking up.
Someone posted on Twitter these are the pilots. I think the chick was 21.
>>545355843He still has other aircraft to safely manage. Freaking out does nothing to help. They deal with their emotions later after work.
>>545356164un-ironicly this
>>545356339>She completely lost her shit and started fucking up.Okay but what I'm saying is, the MAN didn't provide her with enough support? Like why didn't he use his binoculars to help her find a landing spot?? Why was he cold and unresponsive? I think that air traffic control should stop gaslighting women and making them think landing the plane is all their responsibility. Like hellooo, this is a TEAM effort.
>>545355945Kek
>>545356201how dare you, bitch nigger! my breath absolutely wreaks of great grandpa don's cock!
>>545356373No doubt they were trying to join the mile die club.
>>545356373>I should learn to fly, so I can fly myself to exotic places to get railed.
>>545356373toll status: paid
>>545355939I've seen my share of drastic vids, but this one has to be one of the most terrifying ones
>>545356414>blames the man for not being supportivelmao jesus fucking christ the faggotry is unreal. either you're one of those "female allies/male feminists" or you're a legit gash-having cunt. Either way HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>545356531Better question is how did all 9 passengers get on the plane
>>545356596I dunno. What do you mean? I don't know anything about the incident.
>>545353167Even when i become a multi billinoaire i am not flying in helicopters or private jetsgoing in buisness class in commercial jet is safer fuck this
>>545356245if you flexed your glutes very hard at the very moment the plane hit the ground, it's very possible you would survive. Of course you would have to be at least 50 meters away from the crash though.
>>545356339Imagine pulling back on the yoke did nothing to level the plane as it started veering downwards to the ground. The feeling knowing your fucked as the engines are at full throttle, and you're hurtling down like a missile. I would start saying my prayers like the one guy was.
>>545356201Found another simp. Man, the incel revolution really did Jack shit didn’t it?
>>545356587Why does my having a gash offend you? Probably because it reminds you of gender roles, where the MALE has to step up and provide!! This probably triggers an infantile response in your brain that commands you to lash out at me. Just so you know, you are simply angry because you are INADEQUATE and cannot do the right things to impress women!! So there you have it. You're an incel and it doesn't even matter what you say. Bye, loser.
>>545353616in finished listening to the whole tape...she was climbing altitude to avoid turbulence, while ice was foring...ice was forming long before the cimb,,, but the dumb bitch still requested it, this was 100%pilot error...dumb dub du fucking bitch. instead of telling the rich snobby passengers to put on their seatbelts and sit the fuck down she killed them all.
>>545356531You need to cash outside of Denver first that
>>545356322>All the information you need to deduce what happened she said in that short audio clip.You have some of the information from the audio. The rest of the information is basic flight physics combined with an understanding of how ice affects these physics and understanding how you can use these physics in an emergency situation to recover. Ice on the leading edge of a wing decreases pressure under the wing and increases it above, this increases stall speed. We do know from the ATC audio that they were traveling at about 20,000 feet per minute, which should have been well above stall speed, even with ice on the wings. The aircraft should have been recoverable. One of the most basic skills pilots need is stall recovery and many times, this involves an intentional nosedive to increase airspeed over wings. This should have been basic shit assuming the stabilizer was undamaged. With this in mind, there are only two possibilities: (1) both the pilot and co-pilot were DEI retards and didn't know basic stall recovery or (2) the loss of stabilizer caused the nosedive and the pilot's attempts to regain control failed because he didn't have a horizontal stabilizer.
>>545356721I don't think seatbelt would help a lot, but I can be wrong. Actually I always wear a seatbelt and I'm alive, so you might be actually right
>>545356721she was way too close to a weather system as well
>board plane>see female pilot>turn 360 degrees and walk away
>>545356777some pilot explained it on youtube - first you have to get it out of the bank. it's impossible to correct the high speed stall withtout that. Their trajectory showed that the plane didn't get out of bank so they were eitehr unable to do so or didn't know what to do
>>545356822Michael Jackson survival instincts
>>545356822>>turn 360 degrees and walk away720 for you, beerbock cuckie faggot
>>545356676>Imagine pulling back on the yoke did nothing to level the plane as it started veering downwards to the ground.Correct. As a pilot you are supposed to imagine this beforehand and know how to respond. If the control doesn't respond, you are supposed to calmly investigate why it isn't responding. Maybe it was something simple like the H-Stab breaker popped and it needed to be reset, but you wouldn't know that if you are screaming and losing your shit. You'd just scream and lose your shit and die instead of depressing the H-Stab breaker and living.
>>545356880i wonder if could she have just lacked the physical power to use the controls after it started diving hard?
>>545356704>incel>loser>inadequateHAHAHAHA FUCKING TRIFECTA ROFL LMAO. Have fun doing house work while the man in your life stays late at work to avoid you, you obnoxious, nagging bitch cunt.
>>545356953>Billy Jean is not my pilot.>She's just a girl, that said I am the one.>Descending 20000 feet per minute..>It's just not fun.>Ooohh!! Oooooh!!
>>545354734You're full of it, she did a great job under the circumstancesThe way I know you're full of it is if you listen to enough crash recordings you'll hear plenty of male commercial pilots yelling in fear when they realize they're fuckedThe ones that freak me out are when you can hear a pilot clearly dissociating while a copilot realizes just how badly they're fucked. I forget which incident it was but there's one where the pilot fucked by resetting or shutting down one of the engines, the copilot (alarmed) shouts 'why did you do that' and the pilot is like 'I didn't do that' and then it ends 2 seconds later.In this case the plane lost the rear stabilizer as they were coming down, I'm not condemn someone for sounding a bit panicked when the plane is literally disintegrating
>>545357146SHIMONAH
>>545356414holy fucking ragebait, great post anon. 10/10 would get trolled again
>>545354964I'm curious, you guys are clearly aware she wasn't flying the plane so why do you keep lying about it?
>>545356704>where the MALE has to step up and provide!!Correct. This wasn't a mechanical failure. It was a failure of the male pilot to create an intersectional space of gender identity where a woman can share her unique experience of flying an aircraft instead of just being oppressed by all the rules of "professional" conduct created by the white male patriarchy. Sometimes it's not so much important to know why the aircraft is falling; rather, it's how you feel about an aircraft rapidly descending and what this means to a woman who is carving out her space in a gender-diverse world. Men should embrace this role and allow women to shine, but this particular pilot was a bigot and couldn't check his male privilege.
>>545355999The captain flew into the storm and all you fukrs blame the woman. This board is pathetic.
>>545356089Almost. One video is about the luckiest car ever. Any closer and he's fragged. I bet the car felt the shockwave.
>>545353167She didnt fly so good
>>545356140ATC told them any route through. Still on the flight crew.
>>545357069it was this guy piloting, I think
No plane, an attack.
>>545355362I would've pissed and shitted myself if I was that driver jesus fucking christ
>>545356164This except with cars as well. Return to walking.
>>545357420Okay but isn't ATC supposed to CARE? Like I just think that maybe this wasn't the pilots fault after all. Somebody should investigate the ATC guy instead.
>>545353167That's clearly an Israeli missile
>BUT WHAT MATTERS IS I DIED LIVING LIKE I WAS A SMART MALE. WOULD REPEAT MISTAKE.Fuck women.
>>545355618Someone said it could be a ballistic missile disguised as a plane. Do you think this is plausible?
>>545356339If you were smart, you'd be freaking out, too.
>>545357500So? So what? Even if it was, it doesn't affect you personally.
>>545357452true but what about horses
>>545356880>first you have to get it out of the bank.Well, yes. But before you can use your ailerons to do that you need to get out of critical AOA and by reducing your AOA you are also increasing speed over the wings to a speed above stall speed. This is probably what the pilot was doing which is why I believe the stabilizer loss caused this.
>>545357617Oh my god!! I looovee horses!! We should make a horse society again!!
>>545357166>The ones that freak me out are when you can hear a pilot clearly dissociatingKek. You are either a troll or know nothing about aviation and the importance of a sterile cockpit. This bitch was one of the most unprofessional pilots I've ever heard on ATC comms. I guarantee she made about 50 mistakes that led her to this point because she didn't take herself seriously.
>>545357500THAD batteries were place around the area of the crash fren!
>>545356813seatbelt for the turbulence not for the mach 2 crash
>>545357617Can get trampled. Walk. It's good for you. And what's this impatient culture brought anyway? Happiness? L.o.l.
>>545356164Spain just had a train crash that killed 64 people so while I share your appreciation of trains I don't think they're automatically safer
>>545357804We should shoot people out of cannons and catch them with a net at their destination instead. It honestly could work.
>>545354268Only if niggers tongue my anus
>>545355534Why didn't she bypass the compressor??
>>545353576>the screamingUnironically pathetic.
>>545355843It's a lot easier to be calm when you're not the one hurtling toward the ground at hundreds of miles an hour knowing that the plane is completely out of control
>>545357727America sec knew this was incoming, pre-cog info off the SI net.
>>545354736How is the first scenario better you retard lol? A painless death far better.
>>545357941The last thing you hear as a professional pilot are screaming dei foids regretting every decision they've every made
>>545353167She wasn't flying the plane. A man was. In a two-pilot scenario, the co-pilot not operating the plane is the one who talks with ATC. So many total fucking retards on the internet tonight.
>>545357432>Zoomer hispanic/negro mutt pilot >Foid co-pilotI have no idea why this airplane crashed
>>545356178Horizontal stab gone? Just go knife edge and use the rudder. Amateurs
>>545356163>WhyExtremely uppity and entitled customers.
Guys are so unsettled by it that they need to pretend to be sexist in order to cope, that's ok, people respond to traumatic events differently
>>545353167glownigger image/videowe all know it was a missile fired from a sub off the coastyou dont fool me spooks
>>545354734True, these pilots were unprofessional as well.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHgM_8_SOuU
>>545358066>She wasn't flying the plane. A man was.Flying the plane is a lot more than just holding the controls, and most of the time you have an auto-pilot and auto-servo that does that. It's a team effort that requires communication, sharing information, anticipating problems, and calmly discussing solutions. Instead of helping the situation and doing her job, this bitch just shit herself and let the aspiring rapper try to save their lives. The results were predictable.
>>545358024take your medication DO IT NOW
>>545357709But somehow you still don't know that she was not the one flying it, ok
>>545357804>I don't think they're automatically saferThey are, or they would have been had they not turned off the German safety system on that line completely and decided to fly blind at 270 km/h. Even if you can see for a kilometer ahead (which you could in Spain) that's not sufficient for stopping the train in time when somebody just sits on the track like that Iryo train did.
>>545355713Kikes are among the most pussy-whipped.
>>545355307>They’ve been firedYou mean he's been fired because you're talking about one person
>>545358156Wish people would stfu about the "le wymen" aspect and start talking about the nitty gritty of it. E.g. Inside job? Who did it? Timing? I hope you guys remember lection day is fucking TOMORROW, well like 8 minutes Numerology/hidden meanings and cluesEtc.
>>545353167https://www.tiktok.com/@learjet_girl
>>545353167only black women should be trusted to be pilots
>>545355164He wouldn't have got into it
>>545353167Did they buy that jet from the Quality Learing Center for...Lear...jets. That's right, I'm here all night.
>>545353167I went and counted. There are thirty (30) threads in the catalogue about this, including the memes. THIRTY. What are they sliding?
>>545354398she asked to climb to 37000 as soon as they reported precip and was given the ok to do so but it was already too late
>>545354734anyone about to die would be *unprofessional' you absolute retardi guarantee youd do worse
>>545358219>But somehow you still don't know that she was not the one flying it,Bitch, why do cockpits have two sets of controls? If co-pilots don't "fly" why would they need controls?
QUESTION how close was this to Bermuda triangle?
>>545355761A similar nosedive crash happened to a learjet last year in Philadelphia.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svH2uUEHLq0
>>545358306Plausible
>>545358398>anyone about to die would be *unprofessional' you absolute retardTry to stop being a jeet for a few minutes and go listen to the cockpit comms from a few fatal aviation disasters and then compare these to this ATC audio.
>>545358254They are ruled by women but all of them including their women know about the bullshit empowering of women and DEI, they want to see white men lose their jobs but they don't want to fly under a women when it's their life on the line
>>545358398I would probably push the nose down as far as it could go and accelerate the speed as hard as I could just to hear that final cute "eep" from the girl.
>>545358408The copilot takes over if the pilot strokes out or suchlike. They're not flying one side of the plane each you moron
>>545355833The laws of physics are no excuse for skipping leg day.
>>545358438Just north of it
>>545358579Coincidence?
>>545356105if its so easy why does this not occur more often, literally never heard of this happening
>>545358545Or ... if you are in a nosedive and airspeed is such that moving controls is difficult and your plane has control cables instead of electro-mechanical actuators maybe one person isn't strong enough to pull the plane out of a nosedive and perhaps the co-pilot could communicate with the pilot and assist with the movement of the flight controls. But I'm sure that wasn't the situation and it was way better for the foid to shit herself and scream like a child instead of helping.
>>545357846That's sounds super unsafe... how about instead of people we fire donkeys or of cannons and people stands ready close-by to grab onto the donkey as it's propelled out and climb on top as it flies?
>>545358721Because you don't do that, in GERMONEY.
>>545358735lmao GOTTEM
Where are the debris ?
>>545358817The people were cremated and scattered into the wind with such force that their dust particles will only come back down with the rain. Like holy shit.
>>545356339its a lot easier to be calm when you are sitting at the ground and not falling at 1000mph an hour into the ground
>>545358610I dunno. This one seems pretty cut and dry. Two inexperienced DEI TikTok zoomers flying into a thunderstorm isn't exactly the set-up for a paranormal explanation. Only weird thing is that I can't figure out why the stabilizer detached. They were managing the ice and the ice shouldn't have affected the stabilizer much. They only mentioned moderate turbulence. You have fairings to prevent ice buildup inside the stabilizer, so the ice couldn't have caused the mechanical failure. I can't really explain what caused it. Both the pilot and co-pilot were idiots, but they should have still survived this.
>>545355015There was no flipping, there was a gradual stall into a banked dive. The pilots were concious and aware right up until impact, so everyone else almost certainly was too.
>>545358398Bullshit, you fucking homosexual.
>... maybe getting married, birthing and raising children and the kitchen was not such a bad ide-ACK
>>545358920>zoomers.Oh, they were zooming alright.
>>545353616Female pilot
>>545353167Was this part of her master plan?
>>545358726the flight controls had broken offlmaoeven if you're not wrong, which i don't believe for a second, you will still be a fucking idiot.
Why do they want us talking about some flying girl?
>>545358920Bro ice is in the sky and planes fly all the fucking time up there, a little ice didn't do this shit. I got ice in my drink right now. Something else is at hand. Ice this ice that I am so sick of talking about ice
>>545358817Airplanes are weird. They are made of a lot of composites and aluminum. They survive turbulence because they aren't made out of stiff, rigid materials. They are designed to flex and return to form. So, they are way more delicate than they appear. It's kind of a paradox in that it's really easy to damage them on the ground, but in the air they redirect and flex with the air to become very effective structures. TLDR, it's not surprising that a bunch of plastic and aluminum would be obliterated upon impact after freefall.
>>545358467you would literally shit your pants already when i mock you in real life and you know ittheres also nothing about being calm that wouldve saved the situation at this point, theres literally nothing professional about being stoic in death >>545358492you wuoldnt
>>545358920The turbulence or pilot inputs during turbulence might have over stressed the tail. Vertical stabs have been known to fail when yaw dampers go stupid. And whole horizontal stabs don't normally dampen, it is possible the pilot did just the wrong inputs and killed it. The t tail has always looked flimsy to me. I think the turbulence killed the tail. It might have broken some and only completely fallen off in the dive.Or maybe it was just a stall and then a TON of bad inputs. Like air france. Hopefully ntsb has enough to go on. I can't imagine the cvr would help but the fdr might.
>>545355062Possibly they had the engines on full tilt trying to fight the stall, and they didn't have the mental space to pull back on the throttles when the nose dipped hard.When it comes to icing and stall, civilian aircraft are designed to stall nose-down in all cases, i.e.>main wing stalls due to ice (disruption of flow at normal angles), nose down>main wing stalls due to too slow flight (airflow detaches at high angles), brief falling tail-first and then the nose violently swings down>horizontal stabilizer stalls, nose downThis is in contrast with military / performance planes where stall safety is secondary to performance; stalling one of those is like "if you got the engine power, we're going to the moon. If not, you're in an irrecoverable tailspin, lol".The civilian approach is intended to always let the airplane pick up enough speed again.However if this was a stall (and we won't know until the NTSB is done investigating in a few years, because there's no plane to investigate the easy way), if the plane picked up ice too fast, this worked against them - they stall out in stormy weather, nose dips (at high engine power), but they cannot curve out of the dive because the main wing is too caked up in ice. They get into this squeeze where their minimum speed to not stall goes too high because of the ice, while they have a definitive maximum speed where the air pressure will start ripping off pieces of the plane. If that wasn't a video distortion and they really lost the tail stabilizer, they easily could have done that by nose-diving at full engine power.But even if they didn't, there's another thing that causes nose-down effects: the sound barrier. Wings are layman-described as producing lift 1/4 down the line from the tip - in subsonic flow. Once you break the sound barrier (over the wing locally, it accelerates flow, the hull can be subsonic), the wing produces lift in the middle of the line, so the nose tucks down even harder. Fully irrecoverable
final thoughts of every single passenger:>oh god what's happening?>we're going down?>we're going to crash?>is this how I die?>I knew the pilots were a DEI mutt and foid, but I climbed on-board anyway! I can't die this way, I did the right thing! I did the right thing!
>>545359131>you wuoldntIf I was 90% that I was already dead then yes, I would. Maybe reach out and grab her breast too.
>>545359057>the flight controls had broken offOne of the flight controls probably broke off. That being said, the pilot was trying to use the ailerons to level the plane and the bitch could have helped with that. They'd still be dead, but she didn't know that and it would have probably been better to try and help than to soil her tampons and stand by while Tyrone tried to save them.
>>545355454>It was at this moment, anon posted cringe
>>545358981youd already cry getting bullied in rl lolpeople like you are the exact niggertards whod flip their shti when they would know they are literally about to die youd literally go ape shit uga booga
>>545359174easy to say infront of your computer you little incel spasticin rl you would just shit your pants though be careful what you wish for, or god will let you into such a situation once, just to prove you wrong
>>545355833>22,000 feet per minuteAlmost hit 50k ft/m and 600knots according to flightradar CSV, just shy of going supersonic
>>545359205No, it would be exhilarating sharing that one brief moment where your co-worker realizes that you've decided to just end it / her without her permission.
>>545358092yea this>>545358306its honestly meme tier if this is actually themi partly blame the boomers who let them do this, who in this world would let a half nigger zoomer and his zoomer tiktok gf fly jets routinely truly meme tier>>545358920yup this one doesnt sound paranormal it sounds cliche asf
>>545355362Fake as fuck
>>545358726Retarded, you could be doing everything you can with your hands and feet and still be a bit upset about the fact that things are not going well, especially when you've lost for fucking rear stabillizerA bunch of you are desperate to make this her fault and exaggerating the fuck out of it, most likely to stave off fear vibes from the thought of how bad it must have been, so you take refuge in the idea that if it had been two chads in the cockpit it would have been cool and based and they wouldn't have ended up as cat food
>>545359240Why the fuck did they not throttle back? They slammed into the ground on afterburners basically.
>>545358817Another war crime by Putin
>>545359005Carlos?
>>545359152>The turbulence or pilot inputs during turbulence might have over stressed the tail. Probably. The only thing that gives me pause about this explanation is that they only reported moderate turbulence. >Vertical stabs have been known to fail when yaw dampers go stupid. That wouldn't explain a rapid descent though. >And whole horizontal stabs don't normally dampenThey usually have servo tabs and elevators in addition to a trimmable H-Stab which work in conjunction with the auto-servo. I mean, yeah a servo could detach and fuck things up, but that wouldn't result in rapid descent. It would have made the plane really hard to control and then maybe killed them. But it wouldn't have killed them in about a minute. >it is possible the pilot did just the wrong inputs and killed it.No. Almost all stabilizer actuators have potentiometers that prevent movement when overvoltage occurs when it's at a stop point. A pilot really cant fuck this up. >The t tail has always looked flimsy to me. I think the turbulence killed the tail.The most likely explanation, but the lack of heavy turbulence gives me pause.
>>545354734>I am in a complete nosedive >Approaching the ground at mach 0.9>No way out >My fate is sealed>These are my final moments alive>Better follow protocol to placate the incels on 4chins
>>545359092>freefall.they powered into the ground well above "freefall" speed
>>545353167I thought those planes ran a current over their control surfaces to stop ice from forming? Or due to the abnormal conditions it overwhelmed that system?
>huurrr durrr global warming is real guys>air so cold plane are falling like flies
>>545359240From the mumbling I could hear of the pilot on the ATC audio and the way she talked to him, telling him to look outside and ending with 'holy fuck we'r eout of time' my *impression* was that he was telling himself that he was going to get control back any second now and fixated on his instrument panel
>>545356245Same and it's a good excuse to get off work.
>>545359157>But even if they didn't, there's another thing that causes nose-down effects: the sound barrier.The foid reported a descent speed of 20k feet per minute to ATC. That's about 230 mph and is well below the sound barrier.
>>545358817>debristhey got penta-GONE'd just like on 9/11
>>545353167>Marry at 18 >raise 3 children>be a good housewifeNOOOO I'M GONNA BECOME A PILOT AND SMASH AT 1000 KILOMETERS PER SECOND INTO THE GROUND
>>545355618A tranny needs to crash a learjet over a Republican's neck so we are all more convinced
>>545359539like that's where they lost control of the plane but it seems like it kept accelerating after that, per >>545359240
>>545359381So... maybe improper stall recovery technique led to overspeed and THEN loss of tail?Thing is it's a hell of a thing for a plane to go through. Someone says 600 knots on impact?. I guarantee the plane has a limit around 300 to 400 indicated. So it was super oversped and the tail might have just fluttered right off in anger. Thing is we don't know when the tail left.
>>545359573Some children want to be adultsSone women want to be menSome men want to be God
>>545353167eeeeihhh!!! Look outside jack!!!
>>545359500She says "were out of 10"As in 10000 feet altitude. Was a report to ATC. Like the rest of her conversation between screams.
>>545357578YWNBABM
>>545359092now apply that logic to 9/11
>>545359339>A bunch of you are desperate to make this her faultIt's because she sounds like a child in her comms. She lost her shit. That's not what a pilot does. It's a dead giveaway that she should have never been near an aircraft. If you aren't somewhat cracked in the head and don't have a mild deathwish, flying aircraft isn't for you. She did it because she wanted to be a cool girl boss, but she didn't have the talent or mentality for it.
>>545359539That's vertical speed. Not total. And many peg out at irrational numbers like 20000 fps which you'd never do. At least not do and come out ok.
>>545359679Enjoy your ban Shut this thread down!!
>>545355255Can a black box survive such an insane crash?
>>545359732They'll look for it. Somewhere in the mantle.
I like to think that they hit the ground so hard that all 9 souls onboard were propelled with the explosion force into the depths of hell. Like they went right through the ceiling of hell at 4000mph and landed in a hot lake of fire.
>>545355945jej
>>545359775That's because you're a fucking psychopath.
>>545353289Did she die?
>>545358817Retards with their phones trying to get a good shot for Tik Tok
>>545359601They lost control before the reached 20k ft/m. And 50k ft/m is about 500 kts. Still should have been below the sound barrier.
>>545359500From what we can hear in the ATC recording it sounds like he's praying ("...Hallowed be Thy name..."), so it's possible he had already forgone trying to salvage the situation and had his head down in prayer. It's strange to me how fast even the woman copilot seemed to have lost hope, not even 10 seconds after first declaring emergency she tells ATC that they're going to crash into the ground (they're still above 25,000 feet at that point). My guess is that sometime between the mayday message she sent out and the declaration of emergency, the pilot probably told her that they were fucked.
>>545358817Fucking brutal
>>545354435yeah well, it's phonetic. why bother with the 've, when you don't read or write much and didn't practise. i can read it. and the comment is still funny. t. grammar nazi
>>545359840>And 50k ft/m is about 500 kts50k ft/m is the descent rate (vertical speed), not the velocity vector, you need to factor in the dive angle, horizontal speed (groundspeed) and timeframe to get the actual speed, the actual peak speed was ~596knots, and it could be even more because the data isn't super granular.
>>545359794There are two wolves inside of you: Both of them are screaming HOLY FUCK WE'RE ABOUT TO DIE!!! FUCK!!
>>545359623>So... maybe improper stall recovery techniqueI mean, yeah, but the entire chain of events should have been slower, unless they were really, really stupid and stalled it via excessive climb and/or didn't have the right amount of thrust. But we didn't hear a stall warning alarm in the background of the communications and it wasn't mentioned by the foid. And they should have been able to recover from this.
>>545359682She didn't lose her shit, she got right back on task and communicated that they were descending 20k ft/m at 60 degree bankYou're just larping at this point, do you really think that if it had been chad instead of stacy they would have been any better off, and if so how would they have achieved this
>>545359669that makes sense
>>545359862I'm not convinced he was praying but if he was that's even less helpful than what she was doing. If I'm in a bad situation the last thing I want to hear is some faggot mentally checking out early to talk to their invisible friend, do that in the privacy of your own head please
>>545359974>the actual peak speed was ~596knotsOk, and I get that temperature, humidity, and altitude affect the speed of sound, but that's still under or really near the sound barrier and that was on impact.
>>545357941foids are pathetic, not like Polish pilots chuds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vi9Tfs5H-mU
>>545359560shut the fuck up, JIDF
>>545360054>She didn't lose her shit, she got right back on taskNo, she lost her shit. You could hear her panicked voice. She wasn't under control. She didn't understand her situation. She couldn't explain to ATC why this happened. She just told them they were going to die and was unaware of anything else. Both the groid and the foid shouldn't have been in the cockpit. They had no idea how the fucked up and had no idea how to fix it. Aviation is not for children that don't take this shit seriously.
>>545357637You only halfway intelligent about this topic.Learjets have a rather tight operational speed window at those altitudes. 30 knots can be the difference between overspeed and a stall, condition depending.On top of that, overspeed from uncontrolled dive is not a correctable condition. Even if the plane was still intact at some point, planes have a DO NOT EXCEED speed because the control surfaces aren't strong enough to turn against the air pressure force.No control surface movement = no control. Wouldn't matter if the plane still had the tail elevator at some point.Then,Trying to use it in a panic during an overspeed would end up fully breaking the tail control, and then you're just dead.We won't know for a while until the NTSB reports, if there's any data for them to recover. Which I kind of fucking doubt the recorder survived that.But we won't really know the conditions and problems until the report.my GUESS is they iced up really fast when hitting that storm cell, the ice caused loss of control/high speed stall, and trying to correct while overspeeding broke the elevator. Then, continued attempt at control during continued overspeed ripped the tail apart, and it was over.my MISOGYNISTIC CHUDCEL BRAIN tells me the woman, the copilot, panicked and caused it, but the pilot, he fucked up by flying directly into the fucking storm while icing.
>>545359862If the theories about a catastrophic failure in the elevators is true, then it's likely the pilot felt it in the stick and knew shit was properly fucked quite early into the dive.
>>545360158The air is thicker at low alt, it could cruise just fine at 40k feet and 600knots, but at 10k feet the same speed would make it uncontrollable or even rip the plane apart.
>>545360312is there a way to controll the plane when elevator is holocausted ?
>>545359682She was pretty professional given that she was watching the ground approach at 20k ft/min and the plane was trying to bank onto its back. She was communicating flight information right up until they drilled it in. She was hardly hysterical and did a better job letting ATC know what was going on than (You) would have in the face of impending death. I agree, women generally are completely incapable of crisis management, but in this specific case, she did fine.>hurr durr she should have just helped pull on the stickYou're fucking retarded and don't know anything about flying.
>>545360474not at high speed. if it happened if they were at, say, 350kph and 4000 meters maybe, but then the conditions for the tail breaking wouldnt happen there.
>>545360269I agree she didn't understand the situation, but that's partly a function of how fast in unfolded. Like she makes a mayday saying they're dropping 10k feet/m, then just a second later she's reporting 20k ft/m, and per the chart some anon posted above their angle of descent had gone from 8 degrees to 22. I'm not going to blame someone for being a bit panicked at the 100% rational realization that the aircraft is completely out of control.You know full well there's plenty of audio of commercial airline pilots screaming their way though crashes with way less calm than this woman had.I agree with you that as a pair of pilots these two were not up to the job and probably responsible for the whole disaster. I just object to the mental laziness of trying to dump the entire reponsilibty on teh woman because shes' a woman.
>>545360312Well, glad you jumped in at the tail of that conversation to state shit I already said elsewhere in this thread. It was the specific stall recovery maneuver the other anon referenced that I was talking about. Using the ailerons to correct the bank. You need to correct the critical AOA before attempting to use ailerons to level out. And what does correcting the AOA do by putting the aircraft into a slight dive do? Well, it increases airflow over the wings which should provide lift and directional control to help recover from a stall when flight controls are used. The rest of this shit is just speculation, but if the operational window was so tight at that altitude, they shouldn't have attempted a climb in conditions where ice could form. So it was either a massive fuck up on the pilot's part and he shouldn't have been flying, or a loss of H-Stab caused a descent they couldn't recover from. >my MISOGYNISTIC CHUDCEL BRAIN tells me the woman, the copilot, panicked and caused it, but the pilot, he fucked up by flying directly into the fucking storm while icing.It was probably the climb that caused the stall, especially if the operational window was so tight, but that would mean they were both really, really stupid. If you give them credit for knowing the aircraft they were flying, then they were in a situation they should have been able to manage and mechanical failure of the stabilizer is a probably cause of the rapid descent.
all aircraft should require a primary and secondary parachute.
>>545360583>I just object to the mental laziness of trying to dump the entire reponsilibty on teh woman because shes' a woman.Don't get me wrong, I'm not dumping this all on the foid, it was also the negroids fault too. DEI all around.
>>545360332This. To get never exceed indicated of 600 you'd need a fighter jet. Even the Concorde limits indicated to 530. Plus mach tuck might have been happening. This is awful. Is funny seeing the ignorance of this thread. The fuck up was flying into a storm. Everything after not even Chuck Yaeger would survive. That's why we don't fly into storms. That's why we have radar. Specifically so THIS doesn't happen.All you assholes who think her terror overcoming rational thought would probably do the same. But even if you didn't, you'd be as dead as they are.If she had half that panic about flying into the storm, though...
>>545360818>That's why we have radar.How many zoomer pilots do you know that use their weather radar?
>>545360747naw faggot I read all the posts which is why I wrote my shit to begin withyou're dumb, move onprobably some failed rotc washout who dreamed of flying but only has in ace combatfuck off
>>545356259what i don't understand, if this can happen, why would anyone fly near the conditions that could lead to this. why would these learjet people not take a yacht and their time, when they're already in florida?
>>545360863>fuck offand you can fuck right off as well
>>545360886>weather is good in Texas when you get in your plane>presume your pilot is competent and won't fly into a thunderstorm
>>545359179>getting bullied in rl lolYou have to be 18 to post.
>>545360855They'd be likely to have foreflight or pro end be able to see it in real time. Even less an excuse. Fact is they should have been freaking out about the turn Into it. But my guess is radar tilt management was garbage and they were not even seeing it. Because he started out on a good heading and decided to come right.... likely when he painted over the top of the cell.Tilt management on the radar. My guess.
>>545360863>probably some failed rotc washoutOh. I get it now. You are a DEI female pilot in the military that took a break from trying to fly helicopters into civilian airliners to try to defend a fellow foid online.
>>545358817This was a special type of fire known as a "Holocaust fire" they are very interesting in that they don't leave any evidence or bodies. Science is truly amazing, no?
>>545360968This. How many other airplanes do you hear on the frequency. They all made it to their destinations. Because they didn't fly into a fucking thunderstorm.
>>545361018I can be angry at these pilots but they paid for their sins.
>>545358817what's the crater filled with? looks like water. did it pour this much?
>>545359812>Retards with their phones trying to get a good shot for Tik TokLook at them still looking for a plane with their damn phones
>>545360158>>545360818Or in another way, the plane might have not hit supersonic speeds, but individual parts of the plane absolutely experienced supersonic speeds, the air flying over wings speeds up as it flows over. So the controls were very likely done for.
>>545360747Ok, ok, I sucked it up and persevered through your stupidity.You're still all hamstrung by the>shouldn't have climbed in icepart.Climbing is exactly what they should have done. But they should have done it about 25 seconds sooner, and maintained full engine power while holding a climb rate that would keep speed in check.You see, weather and atmosphere is a really whacky bitch.It's -45C temps at those altitudes.There's water suspended in the air at those temps. Not ice, not snow, water.A plane is a big fucking magnet for those water droplets to instantly stick to the plane and turn into ice.But if you go a little higher, suddenly the conditions for water droplets (can) go away.It's the whole reason they wanted to climb to begin with. Again you clearly don't actually know what you're talking about.I might start calling you a dd14 dishonorable for behavior if you don't stop.
>>545355224its the last thing he heard. what a disaster.
>>545359732its built to survive this, this is the whole purpos, theyre going to find it off course.
>>545353167LMAO
