Those idiots could be alive right now if they had parachutes and a ready escape hatch.>The reason passenger planes aren't equipped with parachutes?It would lower consumer trust in air travel because it draws attention to the possibility of a crash.I'm not joking, this is their reasoning. Look it up.Just install chutes in the seat backrests and auto-inflatable rafts in the seats, then put escape tubes in the middle aisle exiting from the bottom to avoid being sucked into the engines. It's not rocket science. Yet it is, and apparently beyond the designer's capabilities.
>>545358147>I'm not joking, this is their reasoning. Look it up.You're a fucking idiot. Please kill yourself.
>>545358198Look it up. I won't even satisfy you with a retaliatory insult, because your obvious deficient IQ would result in a devastating brain breakage of sorts.Are you able to understand? We can translate to pidgin if you wish.
>no linkfake and gay
>>545359206I'm not your personal army. Look it up for yourself.
>>545358147I would’ve just jumped out at the last second and landed on the grass away from the crater for a softer landing. They really were complete retards for not thinking about doing that.
>actually defending no link faggotryextremely fake and extremely gay
>>545359522This. Only cripples and retards need parachutes. Literally just jump dumbfuck lmao
>>545358147I would love to see the dumbasses of /pol/ jump out of an aircraft nosediving at the speeds it did like they can somehow defy gravity to get to the passenger cabin to start with, let alone open a fucking door and jump out.Holy shit.
>>545359531Take your childish butt, and GO SIT UNDER A TREE
>>545359596You mean like they used to jump out of planes in WW2? All it takes is a way to jettison the canopy.
>namecalling to distract from no link faggotry still fake and gay
>>545359596WW2 pilots did it all the time.Is this your way of getting out of your responsibilities? Is this the way you act?
>>545358147You cant exit a plane descending 20,000 feet per minute.
>>545359699You and I have gotten along fine, and I don't know why, this is happening.
>>545359596 son of a pilot here. i can confirm the “just jump out of a crashing jet”-theory is bullshit. My dad debunked it for me when i was 12. I hope OP is around that age, it would be embarrassing elsewise.
>>545359748Wtf are you talking about. Paratroopers jump from steady altitude. Not nosediving. You would need to eject your seat atp like in a fighter jet. Its the only way. And you still might die.
>just jump out at mach 1 bro
>non sequitur to distract from no link faggotry still fake and gay
>>545359522I would've done a flip before landing on my feet
>>545359778put the parachute on the plane retard
>>545358147is that a reaction to the crazy missile-speed like impact that was recorded on a dashcam in the USA just recently?bruh you might not even make it out of that one with full fighter pilot gear and an ejection seat
>>545359847>only works on small planesGo fuck yourself dumbass
>>545359837We got along fine. Are you taking some kind of drugs or drinking?
I would construct a pair of wings from various materials on the plane. Then I would jump out and safely glide down to the ground unscathed.
>>545359748They weren't flying jets retard
Hey, that's a man. I've been assured all evening that only women make stupid decisionsWTF are you trying to imply OP
>>545359922>They weren't flying jets retard**ahem
>>545358147i have an even better idea! why not just jump up the moment the car/plane/train crashes into something? that would save so much time and money but greedy companies and corrupt governments do not want you to know about this cheap trick to save your life!
>>545359957Come to my office.
>>545358147No chance.78 seconds between icing up and impact - by then it was travelling at Mach 0.9 (665mph)
>>545358147Capitalism strikes again!Kill all landlords and open borders for brown people
>>545359827Why are you so mad at me? I don't understand why you're so mad at me sir.
>>545358147No, that’s a sensationalist headline “reason” that like all such things is only one piece of the truth. It’s like saying “McDonald’s doesn’t install defibrillators in their restaurants because it would lower consumer trust in their food.” Technically yes, but it’s mostly that it’s considered an excessive cost for the amount of human life it would save, and yes, human life does have a price. Money itself is an expression of labor-over-time, a line must be drawn on how much life essence we’re willing to put in to protect life as we may end up spending too much life in the process. Obviously we never hit that as the deciding factor as corporations finding out what they can get away with kicks in before that, but trust me, there are still billions going into figuring out how to make aircraft’s stay in the air in the first place rather than designing with “how to get grandma in a chute and out the door alive” in mind.>t. Has an electromagnetics specialist engineer in avionics for a father
>>545359970that was used briefly at the end of the war plus they're sitting above the engines try again
>>545360110>Has an electromagnetics specialist engineer in avionics for a fatherGod is my Father and he says all human life is precious. (aside from the Egyptians, Canaanites, Amalekites, Philistines, etc.)
>>545360199Probably got an IQ of about one.
>>545360199Doesn't matter they still parachuted safely while the plane was nose diving. Not having any parachute training nor a way to jettison the canopy in commercial planes is just modern day laziness/idiocy
>>545358147Just put parachutes on the whole passenger cabin. Or at least the first class section. Problem solved.
>>545360301This can be done and it would have saved tens of thousands of lives throughout history but would also make plane tickets more expensive so the poorfag class would never allow it to happen.
>>545358147>Not ONE person asking about the gifOk. Wtf is the story on this?
>>545360301Use economy class as crumple zone for first class. Best bang for you're buck
>>545360364This makes sense. A common complaint was that the size of the parachutes would be too big to save the entire plane.If you only jettison the first class and let the rest die this solves the size problem.
>>545360268You’re ignoring the argument. How much human life (in labor-over-time) should be spent on protecting life? Cars kill a lot of people, should we ban them? Pregnancy complications kill women, should we ban pregnancy? A certain amount of human life must be sacrificed on the altar of progress, the question is simply “how much?”
>>545359596Free fall is zero g, dumbass.
>>545358147or you could not have women pilots. women rely on whatever is provided them and these 100k+ extensions would be deployed regularly and destroying the $100k plane and the woman will refuse to pay a for any of it so a mandatory insurance would be instated and then flying will be (even more) prohibitively expensive because you'll need a million dollars to get a $200 burger in a cessna.>>>/wsg/6263084>>>/wsg/6263082
>>545360294>>545360296no one is jumping out of a jet with engines behind them that is in an aggressive free fall and surviving
>>545359596Retard if you aim for a bush and jump at the last second before hitting the ground you would be fine
>>545358147Is he okDid someone call a doctor
>>545360344They’re phasing out air travel for poor and middle class people anyway. It’s part of the 2030 2050 goals
>>545360301just build the plane out of the black box.it isn't even black it's orange.women should be made safe to do something they aren't capable of doing. we should rearrange the entire world to make it easier for them to do shit they shouldn't be doing. >>>/wsg/6263084>>>/wsg/6263082
>>545360056>brown peopleOxymoron.
>>545358147>just parachute out broAt the speed they were going they wouldn't even have made it from their seats to the parachutes, let alone put them on, open a door, and jump out. they wouldn't have even got out of their seats, the G-forces from the dive would've rendered them all unconcious or dead.
>>545358147>It would lower consumer trust in air travel because it draws attention to the possibility of a crash.Literally unironically the reason I prefer not to fly. I know statistics fags will ridicule me for this but let's just say I'm not exactly endowed with much luck and I know if a plane I'm on does start to fall out of the sky your chances of survival are fairly slim to none and actually somewhat lower on modern planes with avionics than in older planes that were manually piloted (since I know from extensive flight sims I do enjoy that planes usually can be brought down somewhat safely in even dire conditions like loss of engines etc, provided they manage to dump their fuel in time).Plus now with AI it's literally over, China and Russia will be hacking planes and crashing them left and right just because they can and are stupid and evil enough to want to regress human civilization back to a "feudal warring" period basically, and they get to do 9/11 every week instead of just once or twice since it cost them tons of effort to create ie Al-Zawahiri and OBL and now they can just do it with a bunch of autist coders who don't know any better than CCP indoctrination from birth.
>>545358147>auto-inflateable rafts in the seatsYeah that sounds like a great idea until the mechanism fucks up or gets set off by a kid/nigger and now you have a bunch of rapidly inflating 30+ foot rafts squishing everyone in the cockpit.
>>545360479The engines are the only problem and that is a design flaw. We've already established plenty of pilots jumped out of free falling airplanes, jets included in WW2 and made it out alive. It's like you're too stupid to read.
>>545360364>arrivederci, goyim!fucking kek
>>545359748>muh ww2 paraglidersThey were in prop planes not jets, they weren't nosediving at terminal velocity, they were already standing ready to jump out with their parachutes ready, anx they were trained for jumping.
>>545358147would be possible if the pilot didnt fly 2000 km's directly at the earth some of those rich niggers where dead from head bumps and heart attacks.
>>545359970That wasn't what paratroopers were flown to their drop points in retard. Even today paratroopers aren't in jets, they jump out of prop planes like C130's.
>>545360675>they were already standing ready to jump out with their parachutes readyYeah that's what all that training is for dumb fuck. As I said not being ready to jump out of an airplane before you nose dive at mach 1 is just modern idiocy.Pilots should have parachute training before they are allowed to fly. But all the fatass Mutts would cry about it.
>>545360703How do you think a pilot escaped the Me262 if it's wing got shot out and the plane started spinning towards the ground?
>>545359417go away you disgusting newfaggot everyone who opened your thread is gay and has aids now because of youkys and lurk for two years before posting next timedisrespectful miscreant
>>545360726nigger, stfu, you're dumb as hell for thinking random people make it out of a plane in 60 seconds. the plane was nose diving at the earth meaning you have to look up to see the tail part of the plane.you're strapped on seatbelts and if you werent, you would break your arms and get severely injured. you probably had less than 20 seconds to identify what's going on and get a parachute before it would become impossible.
>>545358147I am an experienced skydiver who has jumped out of a passenger jet doing 200 miles an hour.That has got to be the stupidest idea I've ever heard.
>>545360835design flaw, training flaw, idiocy flawparachute is supposed to stay on your back at all times WW2 seats were made to accomodate the parachutecanopies were jettisoned with the pull of a leverthe problem is commerical pilot retards don't want any of that they are content with dying in a fireball if anything goes wrong with their flying coffin
>>545360703They also jump out of jets like the C-17. The C-17 has to slow down to just over stall speed for them to exit safely. Leaving aside that it takes a significant amount of training to even be able to safely jump from an aircraft with a parachute, you wouldn't have time to put one on and then exit the aircraft in an emergency, especially if that aircraft is in a max dive.
>>545358147They should just attach a magnet above the plane which will keep it from falling.
>>545358147Why didn't they just parachute out of 9/11?
>>545360923stfu you underage nigger, you have the brain of a child.
>>545361016>no argumentconcession accepted shit for brains
>>545359522>jump out sitting on a chair>just above the ground jump off the chair and land safely
>>545358147Goyim could get hurt from the parachuting, a dead goy however cannot sue, now stop noticing it is very antisemitic
>>545360629we're not talking about military planes here, the only way you're jumping out of a jetliner safely is through the belly of the plane which they do retrofit an escape chute on the test planes
>>545361114>the design of the plane is the problemyeah no shit sherlockit was made intentionally so you die in a fireball if something goes wrong
>>545360547they are evil. no other way of putting it
>>545359206no link to what? how a parachute works?
It really is crazy how when you fly you're literally putting your life in another man's hands. If he moves his hands a few centimetres in the wrong direction, you're toast.
>>545358147why dont planes have escape pods that deploy parachute?
>>545359957>Hey, that's a man. I've been assured all evening that only women make stupid decisions>WTF are you trying to imply OPThat men with high estrogen make stupid decisions.
>>545358147Aren't plane cabines like pressurized and it would take a literal firetruck to pull them open? You cannot just open the door on passenger planes.
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>>545359522no need for that, they could've done a straight 360 degrees turn and walked away
>>545358147>It would lower consumer trust in air travel because it draws attention to the possibility of a crash.its a private jet, it doesn't even matterI see no reason why private jets cannot be equipped with parachutesGetting 200 untrained passengers of a typical airliner to paradrop in a limited time frame would end in a disaster though
>>545363046> Getting 200 untrained passengers of a typical airliner to paradrop in a limited time frame would end in a disaster It'd still be better than crash them in a 40t tin can at terminal velocity
>>545362193What's with all the idiot pretending like it's impossible to jump from a moving (jet) plane itt?Of course you depressurize and ideally decelerate but regardless of airspeed if there were some sort of evacuation hatch in the back then jumping with a parachute would still be preferable to crashing along with the wreckage, clearly. That should be the default for any situation where emergency landing safely has exceedingly low chances of success, such as total aeleron or rudder losses etc.Said parachutes might even be designed such that they automatically opened at the last minute before they should in case the person somehow got incapacitated during escape or shortly thereafter.
>>545358147why dont we just make giant parachutes for the entire plane
she should have unironically done a real life 180 and get the flock outta there.
>>545363190Deploying a giga-parachute (it would have to be absolutely huge) from a jet travelling at Mach 1 would rip it to shreds
>>545358426>Look it up.I did and it gave me a very different answer.
>>545363190Reportedly they don't do this because it'd add weight (ie cost) and the chance of accidental activation outweighs the benefits, iirc.I don't get it either.
>>545363190Some smaller planes have this.
>>545363151I imagine there are dozens of incidents happening daily that don't involve 60 degree dives. How would you explain to passengers that they don't need to cause a scene or force the ejection hatch open?
>>545358147not so sure you can jump out of a plane or really move much at all in a nosedive from 30,000 feet, but i'm not r/science so who am i to say
>>545363243It could be multi-stage (ie first microchutes to help slow the plane) and have built-in failsafes so that it detaches in case of accidental activation even.
>>545363190For the same reason big pharma isn't selling the holy grall pill at your local drug store. They'd lose customers if they sold a cure
>>545363322Just install a bubble level that won't open the door hatch unless the flying kike is nose diving
>>545363342I’m sure that wouldn’t add an absurd amount of weight and complexity for almost zero real-world utility.
>>545358147Good thing timmy was wearing his helmet
>>545359810Shut up you son of a pilot.
>>545360703They also jump out of IL-76. Those are jets. Or globemasters.
>>545363453You say that as if planes aren't chock-full of unncessary weight, mostly for "luxury" stuff, and complexity (avionics) and they're not looking to add fucktons of weight of electric batteries, kek.
>>545358147>this nigga thinks that he can jump out of a plane that flies at mach 1but sure, for other emergencies they could save lives. not in this one.
>>545361083Realistically speaking. If the 9/11 jumpers had access to a cars airbag, and a way to trigger it manually, could this have actually worked? Or is even an airbag not enough to counter gravity in that situation
>>545360301Cirrus SR22 planes have exactly that (CAPS). But, SR22s are single engine props, not jets. Engineering dollars go into making planes as air worthy as possible. I suppose jets could be designed to have a chute deploy, but then you are increasing expenses for something that statistically should be exceptionally rare.We'll see what NTSB comes back with, but it seems like the horizontal stabilizer broke off. My question would be, did this happen suddenly as the plane was climbing to get out of the turbulence or did it rip off when they lost control. The FO (lady pilot) reported that they were managing icing, so it could be that the jet suddenly iced up more. Re chutes in a cabin: the maintenance, safety checks, etc for a cabin of parachutes would be so expensive that it simply would not be economical. Commercial aviation in North America and Europe still remains an incredibly safe complex system, despite the degraded treatment of maintenance, jeetening of manufacturing, and DEI programs for pilots and ATC.
>>545358426>every single flight starts with stewardesses reminding you of the possibility of a crash>ackshually there’s no parachutes because they don’t want people to think a crash is possibru!You are legit 70 iq arent you?You think maybe they dont have parachutes because maybe one passenger would know how to use it and the rest would just splat to their death? Not to mention the sheer chaos moments before a crash would make it impossible for people to neatly line up and jump out the planeDunning kruger midwits like you deserve the ropeThis could have gone in and of the dozen threads up already but no, retard needs attention to his brilliant retard post
>>545359417KYS! You are OP you HAVE to provide link and sources! No "look it up". Fuck you.SAGE!
>>545358147Heh you can actually break your fall by jumping up from the crashing object at the last second. You avoid impact that way.
>>545358147If you don't put your kid in a helmet and pads 24-7, you are a terrible parent. IT CAN SAVE LIVESone crash every bazillion miles on actual commercial airlines and you want to have to check all of your carry on for $100 dollars and make the maximum checked luggage 30 lbs so there can be a parachute for everyone. The liberal mind = problems are easy to solve if you look t nothing else.
>>545358147
>>545358147This is the reason why i always carry a Knirps umbrealla in my hand luggage. While others will crash and die with the plane i will easily float down to safety and laugh at the plebs down there burning to crisp. First thing on the ground is looting the dead and go to the next McDonald's™, buying some McFlurry® with the money of the dead. It works in cartoons so i see no reason why it shouldn't work in reality too. I'm using OP logic here btw.
>>545358426You are stupid nigger
>>545359626>>545359809>>545360005I love you
>>545359596jumping out wont do shit what is this for advice.
