How can a democracy protect itself from leaders who use democratic processes to weaken democratic institutions?
what if the people want that, though? wouldn't it be undemocractic to deny them?
>>545361186Extreme countersemitism
direct action
>>545361186frognigger kike.
>>545361186Very carefully
>>545361186Sortition.
>>545361293What do you have in mind?
>>545361186Trick question. They cannot.
>>545361293Then the failure would be democratic,And we all know how THAT goes.
>>545361186Nordic model.
>>545361186By having a well informed voting populationIEYou have to be 35+ to voteIt is quite simply too easy to manipulate people when their brains are still developing and full of breeding hormones.The greeks were onto something
>>545361186Stupid question, democracy doesn’t exist.
>>545361186Jews smell funny.
>>545361553I bet you don't even vote in elections
>>545361582You bet what? After i said democracy isn’t a thing, crazy gamble you got there.
>>545361612Didn't answer my question, guess I'm right by default
>>545361186By having the average person be politically active and pay attention, we can dilute the institutions with good normal people and keep corruption to a minimum. Unfortunately... democracy is built on the assumption that people give a shit. Most people don't. So a small number of malicious devils get in and fuck shit up.
>>545361669It was implied, didn’t count with you being retarded, my bad.
>>545361687You said democracy didn't exist but don't vote in elections. Very nice.
>>545361716What’s not clicking? Why would someone participate in a process they don’t believe in kek. You pray to God if you don’t believe in it?
>>545361800Oxymoron, representative democracy is very well alive in Spain
>>545361186Democracy is inherently flawed because half of voters have below average intelligence. There is zero reason to want or take input from most people.The correct approach is to limit voting to the subset of people who are the equivalent of a standard deviation above normal and have stakes in the country so they wish to continue to improve it.Woman aren't biologically equipped to deal with real external world problems either simply because that was never their role throughout our evolutionary history. They are thus lacking in that innate hardware honed through generations of selective life and death/mating pressure to get things right.
>>545361186democracies will never work long term like how communism has never worked at all. the masses are incapable of ruling themselves. you may have a generation here and there that excel at creating stability but once they pass things will always go to shit. like it or not people need a centralized absolute power. back then it used to be religious monarchies but today it'll be AI.
>>545361831Our “democracy” perfectly illustrates my point, it all rides on a illusion of choice and people never know what they’re “buying” with their ballots. Once politicians are elected they shift from campaign fishing mode to party survival/personal career advancement/reelection mode and they start working on building their oligarchical powertrip fantasy. Democracy as an idea doesn’t account for human nature and that’s why democracy will always be an illusion in practice.
>>545361186It can't, all democratic systems end up the same as every other human system of governance. All scum floats to the top and poisons the bucket of water. Always has, always does. Turns out it's just as useless as human religions since human faith is a twisted psychopathology that corrupts not just the human but also their entire civilization.
>>545361975I disagree, to get true representative democracy you need all groups to participate and vote. Your system is a two party, English system that does not work as good as a multi party state. Every group, no matter how stupid or low income they are needs representation, or else you get disenfranchised groups, which creates crime and misery. The system you're suggesting has been tried before and it failed.
>>545362090This. Humans need to fear for their lives or else they will just fuck things up. So get ready for that.
>>545362138Do you think India's system of governance is better than ours? Because that is the system you described. Obviously, both are insufficient.
>>545361186You can't, next.
>>545362187No, you have a better system of governance than India, which is basically a soft-dictatorship. I'm not suggesting that.
>>545362138Please explain how a bunch of welfare recipients voting is a good idea. All they are going to do is vote for whoever promises them more things and promises not to turn off the faucet. If you don't contribute why should you have any say about the allocation of those who did, purely on a moral level.What I suggest is the sustainable portion of the population who are net contributing tax payers should be voting with no foreign interest lobbying, voting, or holding political positions (i.e. dual citizens).Woman voting is a net negative as well. In the best case scenario they vote in alignment with their husbands and thus redundant. In the worst they are single karens who fucked up their one job in reproducing the next generation when they effectively had a rigged hand of cards and could have played them at anytime. These people are destructive scum and need to be silenced and eradicated from any source of influence.
>>545362354This would also fail as personal biases and interests start dividing the resultant body of voters, democracy fails no matter how you twist it. Best system run by humans is probably something ridiculous like a kratocracy supported by a council of eunuchs on stipends.
>>545362354It's infuriating that welfare recipients abuse the system, but it's a small part of the budget. Politicians are representatives of the people, who "most of the time" are intelligent enough to develop and prosper the country, else they get outvoted. The sustainable portion of the economy would vote for their own interests, which is a bad thing for potentially millions of people. It would create a class system, also for women.
Boom and bust civilisation cycle. Getting faster each time.
>>545361186>How can a democracy protect itself from leaders who use democratic processes to weaken democratic institutions?It's really not that complicated.When retard communist crashed and burned after Cold War, you'd think no one in their right mind would be so stupid to entertain the idea again. So everyone just went back to work, took their vacations, assumed the threat was over.Meanwhile . . . “It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies and nosers-out of unorthodoxy.”― George Orwell, 1984They infiltrated education, media, entertainment, culture and eventually politics itself. It was the result of complacency.The job now is try untangle and roll back this infiltration, first slow, then fast. It will end in executions of all those who committed treason. Someone like Fauci could get a public hanging, like they did with Saddam Hussain. The message has to be clear.It is very important to use all available tools to avoid infiltration, particularly at school. Poisoning youths' minds should come with fatal penalties. It must never be allowed again.But people have to ask for it, so it needs to get a little worse before it gets better.
>>545361378Democracy is retarded. Rules made by majority as the main principle always will fail. Return to Monarchy!
>>545361186Why should democrazy be defended? Ever asked that? False understanding of human nature makes you believe that such a bullshit is holy.
>>545362827>Return to Monarchy!Do you want the Kaiser back in Germany?
>>545361534You don't think someone who pays taxes can vote? like even someone who's working under 18 pay taxes isn't it unfair the government takes your money but don't let you vote till you're 35
>>545362712>“It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies and nosers-out of unorthodoxy.”>― George Orwell, 1984Correct me if I'm wrong but Winston said it before he met Julia who was the most zealous at the party but eventually she was the most rebellious one also
