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>Lost their robotics, shipbuilding, rockets, nuclear, machine tool, chemicals, lithography, software, semiconductors, electronics, hydrogen, biotech, aviation industry
>Failed to venture into any new technology for the last 20 years, all their remaining tech companies are decades old giants that are just coasting along on their reputation
>They are not even bothering to try to develop new tech, there's basically zero activity in the Japanese A.I industry for example

Japan might look good, but they're decaying hard. Technology is all that they have, and they're rapidly falling behind. Otherwise they have nothing else. Their demographics are shit, their geography is also shit, they have very little farmland or natural resources and they're surrounded by enemies. Tech is the sole reason why they have been so successful over the last century, and they're basically losing everything across the board. There's basically zero areas that Japan is leading in. Taiwan has TMSC, SK has Samsung and SK hyinx, America and China has dozens of leading edge companies in basically every field, even Europe has Airbus, Deepmind and ASML. Japan has...

Even their cultural exports are falling behind. At this rate, Japan is gonna to become a 3rd world nation within the next 20 years. Everyone keeps talking about how Europe has stagnated, but Japan has it a thousand times worse
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So let their economy contract. Or they can civilizationally regroup and take it easy for a little bit, they did spend most of the past 400 years closed off from everyone else before we forced them into playing this huge global role. You have lots of options when you're not enslaved by the cult of line go up
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>>545371239
OWARI DA
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Indian talent will fix this
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>>545371239
Realistically though Japan has become the America of the east.
They are a main financial hub whose main exports are their culture.
Their automotive industry is also still very strong because they don’t chink or Jew out on it.
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did the shitcreature learn to adopt a new disguise?
you are not clever, nonhuman combination of shit and mold
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>>545371239
>Trusting chink graph
>Meaningless number
Shit thread
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>>545371239
so this is what causes the constant bugmen screeching we see all the time today? seems like japon es cagada o algo.
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>>545371760
You can have a great economy but be shit at developing new technology, or a shit economy but still be great at developing new technology. Japan has both a shit economy and is shit at developing new technology
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>>545371970
America is still a major tech leader, espically in A.I Japan has basically no areas where they lead in technology. Also the current high oil prices are fucking them in the ass because Japan cannot into EVs and chinese EVs are destroying ICE cars sales globally.
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>>545372349
Why is that inherently a problem?
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>>545371239
Meanwhile, China's economy is crashing by 2027 due to massive debt. They have a massive surplus production of steel and concrete and their fake GPD is being propped up by constructing Ghost Cities like these

https://youtu.be/_8WCiRW0vZw?t=504
https://youtu.be/u_k_I6VaN34?t=4018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mblWnsP57pA
https://youtu.be/KBclVVJFnS0?t=162
https://youtu.be/08o4trrTODI?t=833
https://youtu.be/H8xtmrjHSbY?t=297
https://youtu.be/2errqQ4NAHM?t=138
https://youtu.be/MIUD-FE8rco?t=1567
https://youtu.be/Boh66Pjjiq0?t=663
https://youtu.be/FE0pKlskeGc?t=2557
https://youtu.be/ExgXvUyACzA?t=428
https://youtu.be/hap2acZ_PWE?t=517
https://youtu.be/GjpOH3xZQqQ?t=1428
https://youtu.be/KQTKhN1qus8?t=2657
https://youtu.be/8T044v8EG5E?t=3451
https://youtu.be/_RfkEL4JMvE?t=1586
https://youtu.be/LFzv3Fv7CIk?t=1944
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1GI09vukAk
https://youtu.be/c_E3iU6c6Ig?t=114
https://youtu.be/80N-ShwGTQU?t=523
https://youtu.be/4b2Y4WN3frY?t=774
https://youtu.be/HUbKO1cACLE?t=248
https://youtu.be/jiA4PDQsSAo?t=3158
https://youtu.be/-seijTcJBsY?t=2071
https://youtu.be/wkpZ7zcYjz8?t=177
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https://youtu.be/XC9iWZIbZXA?t=951
https://youtu.be/OQx4S7fJJfQ?t=2987
https://youtu.be/uiYkDWeWwxw?t=640
https://youtu.be/6RkpP_cCM8Q?t=271
https://youtu.be/2Wu7M2u9ems?t=1285
https://youtu.be/nAQbJ0Rf9QI?t=2738
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https://youtu.be/BvL1Hf2gD-g?t=568
https://youtu.be/-vwgdBFZTDA?t=1
https://youtu.be/2nuBB67gMos?t=2330
https://youtu.be/B5zSe0nSeLM?t=2087
https://youtu.be/mf16zD5OhzI?t=1225
https://youtu.be/eDgNu3SpFgM?t=626
https://youtu.be/cY2n5zgk_Rw?t=1013
https://youtu.be/66B2lGOTNxI?t=1
https://youtu.be/6yMwniU4KUI?t=612
https://youtu.be/ddfN9m8N09I?t=1
https://youtu.be/Ell7cwGPjc0?t=2473
https://youtu.be/AL8XjbBgTck
https://youtu.be/GDjLkQRo4TA
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>>545371239
Japan never had a real software industry beyond video games.
>But TRON
Japan was dependent on an little know operating system from a company in Iowa called Microware. TRON was their attempt to remove that dependency but instead of just focusing on that one thing, they tried to make it an everything OS that could work for all use cases. Not only did that make other countries uncomfortable, it also made the whole thing too generic and too thin. Specialized OSes dominated embedded and industrial while Windows and *nix variants controlled most everything else.
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>>545372856
Because Japan doesn't have much else. Russia could regress a century in tech and still have it's immense mineral/fossil fuel resources to fall back on. Same for America, Canada and China and a lot of the larger countries. Japan has to import something like 97% of their energy, and 70% of their food, technology is the sole reason why they're successful at all and not a 3rd world country. Their geography is some of the worse in the world.
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>>545371970
>Their automotive industry is also still very strong because they don’t chink or Jew out on it.
They depend on chinks though.
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>>545371239
They're vassal state of USA and were forbidden from competing economically with USA. Furthermore they were forced to hamper their own domestic markets and import American goods. Japanese were decades ahead in chip design and manufacturing in the 80s until USA made them agree to "assist" American companies in capturing a large percentage of the Japanese markets.
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>>545372918
>le ghost cities
Explain, in 50 words or less, why it's a bad idea to build housing and infrastructure intended to absorb future population growth.
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>>545371931
kek
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>>545371239
Trump has some nice plans for Japan/Korea.

1. Force each of them to invest 400 billion dollars into Murrica.
2. If the investment dies, too bad.
3. If the investment survives, they can keep 10% of the profits.
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>>545371239
Big words from someone in a fake "country".
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>>545376752
Because there is no future growth, and the cities are fake and made of plastered corn cobs you braindead niggerfaggot.
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>>545374768
Friendly reminder that the EU also is a vassal state of the USA, and every decision by EU politician suddenly make sense when you see them through that lens.
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>>545379303
>Because there is no future growth
You sure about that?
You laughed at the upper frame, because you were a brainlet who doesn't know about cityplanning.
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>>545373147
Don’t they eat a lot of seafood? 70% import of food sounds like you’re making things up. Why would you lie on the internet like this?
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>>545371239
>Taiwan has TMSC, SK has Samsung and SK hyinx, America and China has dozens of leading edge companies in basically every field, even Europe has Airbus, Deepmind and ASML. Japan has...
japan has 2nm chips in pilot production. only taiwan, south korea and the USA can beat that. japan is ahead of all of europe and will be well ahead of china. they mog almost any country on earth in a bunch of high tech manufacturing areas like industrial robotics.
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>>545380400
japan also makes more silicon wafers and photoresists than anyone else. other countries are almost entirely dependent on japanese wafers and photoresists to make chips.
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>>545371239
It's fine, japanese are in high demand worldwide.
Japan can become they new world brothel and have wealthy german sex tourists pay for everything.
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>>545380884
Isn’t there already a sex industry in goymany?
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>>545379303
Curveball question: what's bad about using ghost cities to reduce the population density in overcrowded cities?
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>>545380614
The lead is eroding, the chinese figured out sometime ago the key behind japan's photoresist is the special glass containers that minimise contamination, and the stirring equipment.
Eventually it will all be figured out.
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>>545380259
Brother, they invented Sushi. Eating raw fish because they don't have anything else.
Next thing you're gonna tell me is that Katanas are good because they're folded 1000 times with nippon steel.
They took over Asia because they have literally nothing.
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>>545381725
>they invented Sushi
It's the chinese who figured that one out,
Japan is good at rebranding though, and giving things a new name.
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>>545381725
I looked into it more. Seems like you’re mostly right because they left tradition (rice) for bread. They feed their livestock with imported grains so it doesn’t count towards domestic calories. And I’m not a dweeb, just surprised that they aren’t more self sustainable.
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>>545381153
>Isn’t there already a sex industry in goymany?
Western women are unusable over the age of 25 and below 25 they only prostitute themselves to chad/niger
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Japan is losing 1 million ethnic Japanese per year. it's cooked
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>>545382158
I can usually find at least one cutie under 30 during my trips to Germany. It helps being a white foreigner that speaks German.
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>>545382045
Rice is pretty pricey over there for some reason.
A couple of kilos is like 4000yen if I recall.
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>>545382341
they got tariffs on foreign rice i think. and local rice is expensive. and median age of a farmer in Japan is like 63
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>>545381647
china makes a lot of shit
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>>545371239
Hey chink, ching chong, chinaman, chinkvirus? Your job is to go wining about "Rape of Nanking", making cuck statues, to remind the world of how Japanese men slaughtered you chinksects. It's clearly not your job discussing some tech fields where you didn't belong to, and never will. lol
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>>545372349
>>545372566
You should be grateful that Japan gave your worthless cuck nation Sook Ching, such an iconic event where 50,000 chinksects were annihilated by Japanese men. I’m sure the remnants of your losers would dedicate sex slave comfort women to Japanese soldiers there.
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>>545382682
>>545382582
Thank you sarrr
India save Japan with poop
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>>545382765
These chinks are a real cockroach race that only steals and copies. Of all China dumping stuff, solar panels, LIB batteries, knock-off iPhones or anything, not a single one was invented by them.

Chink see chink copy, they just copy things made by America or Japan and dump them around with lowest profits. Not even involved in applied study, let alone basal study, thus no Nobel prizes go for them.

The only thing these chink creeps invented was the Coronavirus (originated at Wuhan lab). lol
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>>545382830
Thank you saaar
Pajeet very thirsty Pajeet save Japan!
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Canon and Nikon do lots of lithography machines, they just aren't capable of extreme UV lithography needed for modern CPUs/GPUs, which is where the big revenue is.
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>>545373147
>Japan doesn't have much else
I just love how there are countless pics of Japanese men slaughtering you chinksects, while the opposite cases are virtually non-existent. No wonder you chinks are so insecure. lol
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>>545372566
>mitutoyo
>makita
>toyota
>komatsu
Please kys chinks.
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>>545383073
>which is where the big revenue is.
ASML's biggest revenue is the mid-end DUV immersion.
Japan is not good enough to build those, they fell behind a long time ago, Nikon/canon are 1 step below that. Their equipment is for older type of chips.

EUV is the most high-end, but it's only a tiny fraction of asml's revenue.
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>>545383324
You sound a try-hard, are you even the tech business ever before? Answer "Ching chong" or "No", hey chinksect? lol
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>>545382830
>Chink see chink copy, they just copy things made by America or Japan
Lmao
I know you're larping as a Jap but you do realize Kanji was copied from the Chinese, yeah?
90% of Jap culture is Chinese while 10% is from India through Buddhism.
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>>545373147
Thats why theyre going to colonize the shit out of you niggers again if you dont shut your gook slant eyed yellow chink faces.
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>>545383324
Correct, I just wasn't meticulous enough to separate out DUV and EUV.

Either way, Canon and Nikon both do lithography machines for a lot of simpler motherboard components.
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>>545383257
Please SAARRR We need JAP meatshield now for the glory of poopistan!
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>>545382468
>tariffs on foreign rice
That doesn't make any sense. Why would they tariff foreign imports? Japan literally depends on them.
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>>545383395
>>545383512
Is this your ancestor, chink? Tell me why they are always killed by Japanese men?
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>semiconductors
Actually Kioxia is a major japanese tech factory connected to the semiconductor industry.
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>>545378782
Good.
TND (no, the other N)
TGD
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>>545383512
During my quick Google search about Japan and food imports. AI told me that the Japanese government paid a lot of farmers to stop farming for rice because they didn’t want the price of rice to plummet and farmers to go out of business when Japanese people started purchasing bread instead of rice.
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>>545383455
>Either way, Canon and Nikon both do lithography machines for a lot of simpler motherboard components.
It's mostly for cmera eye and robot eye.
The chips are called CMOS IS
They are extremely low end.

They are actually extremely bad business, because they need to be crtain dimensions to fit the glass objectifs/lenses in front of the cameras,
So they can never be physically shrunk like all the other microchips, their profits cannot increase with smaller transisters like normal microchips.
This is why Japan was dealtht he worth hand compared to worst Korea and Taiwan.

And one of the many reasons why Nikon/Canon fell behind ASML, their camera equipment market simply didn't need the hyper advanced tiny transistors.
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>>545383706
>Japanese government paid a lot of farmers to stop farming for rice because they didn’t want the price of rice to plummet
>One of the staple foods of Asian culture is a luxury in an Asian country
That's just moronic.
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>>545371239
The solution is simple. End ZOG.
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>>545384003
Is this your ancestor? Tell me what technology was used to slaughter 50,000 of your men, you tech-wannabee chinksect?
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>>545383582
SAAARRRR We proud poop ancestor!
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>>545383824
The simpler components/chips on a motherboard can be made with Canon/Nikon equipment - and I believe they are often so in many laptops. It's the processing units which need the more advanced machines.
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>>545384100
SAAAARRR intelligent ancestor SAAARR
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I want you guys out of my country by tomorrow morning.
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>>545376752
China's birth numbers are decreasing.
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How many Nobel prizes China earned? Nobel is the only thing that matters when it comes to technological contribution, and Japan earned dozens in last 20 years. Wuhan Virus might be a good nomination for them, and I like how this has to be the only invention people can expect from chinks. lol
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>>545384312
>The simpler components/chips on a motherboard can be made with Canon/Nikon equipment
You're right these are volt controlling chips (PMIC).
But these are even more lower value than camera eye.

China has already mastered these chips, and this cause several factories in Usa to collapse.
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>>545380259
It's actually 63%, still horrible...

https://www.nippon.com/en/articles/-/54306

>Japan’s food self-sufficiency ratio on a calorie basis for fiscal 2025 fell to a record low of 37.11% in fiscal 2025 (April 2025 through March 2026), according to data compiled by the Ministry of Agriculture, Forestry, and Fisheries.
>>545380400
>>545380614
Japan's position in the semiconductor industry is slipping more and more ever year. China in particular is gunning for their chemical and high end semiconductor equipment market.
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>>545371239
how dumb are you. you should give what you have to japan so you can survive too, dumb fucking retard.

off a moron like you does not understand topologies of economies.

you need the japanese, the entire world, just like they need eu and the entire world must take care of us but none of them does.

stupid fucking useless monkeys.
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>>545384577
SAAAARRRRR We need european glownigger prize SAAAR
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what are these monkeys creating but problems.

nothing else.
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you can be happy that im not the imperator of the world, you would be dead for this post. we dont need morons anymore. youre a useless eater.
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>>545384749
>you should give what you have to japan so you can survive too
LMAO your brain has been fried by cuck porn.
It's bedtime Germoney
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>>545384735
>Why yes, I just brought up newly-learned things out of my poor knowledge
Cringe and bug, are you even in the business ever before? Answer "Ching chong" or "No", hey dumb chink?
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>>545383073
>>545382558
>>545383324
I don't think people understand how quickly China is moving up the valve chain for a lot of the industries that Japan traditionally dominates. Even DUV isn't safe, let alone their photoresist and other niche high end equipment business. It's telling that 30 years ago, Japan dominated hundreds of different fields, and today it's like a dozen super niche products.
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>>545384735
How's their trade holding up with China?
I know electronics and chips got fucked because Takaichi couldn't kept her mouth shut.
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>>545384735
In anime shows and Japanese media they always treat the future as if Japan is completely self-reliant and there’s almost no interaction with anyone in the outside world. And the European or America characters are always portrayed as being strong-willed and assertive to the point of being outright rude and reckless, but also very capable of getting shit done, but they just have no concept of how we grorious Nipponese do it using tried and tested ancient Japanese magic or some sheeeeit. They want so badly to go back to isolationist Imperial Japan that they can taste it.

Also, every American in anime is a tall blonde guy which might have been true when it was only American GIs in Japan after WW2, but in modern real life it’s really more like Johnny Somali.
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>>545385010
SAAARRRR We business pajeets now!!
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Japan got caught in the trap of Timmy worship. Lost their warrior spirit and now just jerk off to anime.

You think samuri looked at anime? You guys are migger faggots
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>>545385032
>photoresist
Is that a newly-learnd word this time? Answer "Ching chong" or "No", you cringe tech-wannabe dumb chink?
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>>545385171
SAARRRR We kearn new word, and Poopistan more proud
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>>545385261
If you do the job poorly enough then the person who had you do it won’t ever fire you because he’ll always need you to fix it. It’s one of the most ancient forms of jugaad.
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>>545385079
The thing is that China is the world's largest market for electronics and mid end semiconductors, so they can swing the market easily if they wanted to. There's a whole bunch of chinese photoresist and semiconductor equipment companies rushing to replace Japanese companies. And when you take over the chinese market, you tend to be good enough to take over the global market too.

China's export controls of rare earths and the sky high cost of energy when Japan has to import 97% of their oil and natural gas isn't helping.
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>>545371239
Nigga Chinks took over the anime industry so hard japs population began reading mahnwas to avoid consuming chinese related stuff altogether from island chinese rednecks to island chinese rednecks I suppose
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>>545385338
”I'm a bug china man. I just learned a new word, so I want to use it now, despite only Know-it-all creepness leaking out of me."

What did this Mulsim flag chink mean by this?
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>>545385032
>Hello I am Singapore man here wishing extreme best intent on journey of destiny accordingly to friends of light
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>>545385414
SARRRR Pajeet learn new word again!
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What was the root cause of turning a British colony into a creepy Islam flag ching chong speaking nation? Think about it, it's really disgusting such an abomination nation even continues in existence. The world would be clearly better off without such an abomination.

And I like how our grampas actually tried to exterminate these vermin there. lol
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>>545385571
BRITTISHER SAAARRR We have britisher colony sarrrr
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>>545385571
You are all subhuman bugmen to me
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>>545385536
The key to jeet engineering is believing that it works until it eventually does… kind of.
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Hey chink, ching chong, chinaman, chinkvirus? Your job is to go wining about "Rape of Nanking", making cuck statues, to remind the world of how Japanese men slaughtered you chinksects. It's clearly not your job discussing some tech fields where you didn't belong to, and never will. lol
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>>545385338
I'm still curious about the non-electronics China imports.
Isn't China Japan's biggest trading partner?
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>>545371239
>there's basically zero activity in the Japanese A.I industry
Insanely bullish.
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>>545385992
Repeat it again SARRR We Need to repeat the shiiiiiit
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>>545385994
Japan has been running a big trade deficit with China for a couple of years now, and the situation has reversed, with Japan importing a lot of high end goods from China. China still imports quite a bit of cars, robots and semiconductor equipment from Japan, but you can expect that to drop quite sharply over the next few years now that China has caught up in technology and with the current tensions.
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>>545386367
>Chinaman who didn't even have a single lithography machine, now talking about it like an armchair expert to Japan of all that has had lithography for 50 years
Cringe, no amount of your larping won't change you are a dumb chink who only copies and steals.
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>>545386830
>SAAARR You have no lithograph
>Only pajeet knows how to saaaarrr
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>>545386830
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/east-asia/china-start-production-immersion-duv-chipmaking-6282711

EUV is around 5 year away btw.
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>>545387200
>hehe, China stealing EUV now, it's the super awesome lithography machine, so I like to share info this time
You outed yourself as a cringe tech-wannabe chink in the first post. You don’t need to do it again in the second, inferiority-leaking tech-wannabe chink? Answer "Ching chong" if you understand.
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>>545387400
China is not just going for LPP EUV, they're going for the holy grail of a particle accelerator based EUV light source.
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>>545387511
Eww, chink germ spreading corona. Disinfect the filth. lol
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>>545387634
SAAAR we accelerate pooop instead SAAAR
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>>545386367
I didn't care about JP politics until just a year ago but that's amusing.
Imagine pissing off your biggest trading partner.
Philippines needs to get hit hard next.
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>>545387891
I didn't care about SG politics too, tell me how much of a chinksect you have to be to live in a ching chong speaking SEA region with a creepy Islam nation flag, it's unreal. lol
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>>545388003
But SAAARRRR islam bad saaaarr
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>>545388003
And I like how our grampas actually tried to exterminate these vermin there.
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>>545388152
SAAARRR we are japanese CEO saaaarrr
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>>545387891
SK, Japan and the Philippines are all getting hit hard by the Iran war and the high fuel costs. Their greatest ally is fucking them in the ass hard. Meanwhile China is able to get cheaper pipeline oil and gas from it's neighbors, and also discounted crude from Russia, and it's renewables and EV exports are also surging immensely, so they're actually benefiting from the Iran war. If oil prices stay high for another year, Japan and SK will deinstitutionalizate the same way that Europe did after they lost access to Russian energy.
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>>545388357
>If oil prices stay high for another year, Japan and SK will deinstitutionalizate the same way that Europe did after they lost access to Russian energy.
The horizon is +5 year minimum, it the war ends today and they can rebuild the arabian refineries.

But this is fragile, in 5 years israel can detonate the west Asia again., and refineries blow up in smoke again.
If you want to be realistic, just consider Japan/korea/phillipines dead.
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Based thread desu. The Japanese flag shows complete dominance over Chinese weaklings, it's like Nanking Massacre once again.
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>>545371239
>Japan has...
a fuckton of tech giants with no less relevance than any of the companies you listed and many of them are far bigger and better than anything China has, which is mostly scams, IP-theft-based knockoffs that wouldn't exist without stealing from others, and fake companies only propped up by state subsidies in order to generate even faker GDP.

It's also something bound to bounce up eventually regardless of how many fake "number go up" Beijing produces.

That said, it is a shame they let their laptop manufacturers like Toshiba etc slip and basically gave them away to China for nothing, much like IBM with Lenovo, but that's a minor, almost irrelevant development in the grand scheme of things.

Also, there's almost nothing faker and more nonsense than market caps. Look at the US for example, your Meta is literally a glorified homepage provider that bought up a few gadgets on the way (which then all failed) and it's "worth" like a trillion dollars in mcap terms. 100% bullshit fake imaginary number, even accounting for how many gazillion ads it can serve to a billion people, there's nothing Meta has or does worth a trillion dollars by any measure and any capital terms, it's just one giant scam at worst, a shitty advertizer at best. Mcap is all but entirely meaningless.
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nigga stole my bike https://x.com/izumi_sunagawa7/status/2117054321930232204
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>>545388357
>took SK's patriot missiles
>tell Takaichi to ruin JP's trade with China by bringing up Taiwan
>keep telling the Flips to antagonize China
It's fucking amazing how my opinion of chinks did a 180 in less than a year. They're still obnoxious but not moronic.
China needs to make the Flips suffer already. They're being obnoxious by saying ASEAN will save them.
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welp, gg Japan. Japan did a good run and they exhausted.
i'd noticed more Japanese students studying in Europe as regular students here in Europe, that's pretty much explained the reality; Japan degrade into Thailand level poverty. They still enjoy the 1st world quality, part of G7, and powerful passport.
Also, Japanese Government one mistake is to copy US on spending money. Similar debt but Yen isn't infinite dollar. Not to mention Japan wasting too much money on foreign aid USAID tier. Many are for developing China itself.
The aid from Japan (most of foreign students in Japan is Chinese), and the decline of Japan as case study for chinese policy makers are two debts that China has on Japan (The chinese government had studied Japanese Plaza Accord, and brainstormed contingencies so China won't get one)

>>545371970
Japan had ONE chance during Imperial Japan era to beat China and be the hegemony of modern Asia, they failed. In order to rule the Asia, full conquest over China is a must.
Post WWII Japan could be described as honorary Anglo, the UK of Asia. But it's short lived until end of millenia. 2010s Japan was still the formiddable force, G7 could repeat Chinese century of humiliation. But now, G7 is a hospice.
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>>545389172
>a fuckton of tech giants with no less relevance than any of the companies you listed and many of them are far bigger and better than anything China has
Japan is fucked bro. Sony is a dying motherfucker,
The Chinese grew in the CMOSIS market from 0,1% marketshare to 21% marketshare in just a few years.

Pic related. You're watching japan's tech crown jewel crumble in real time.
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>>545389172
As far as collecting info from this Singapore poster, China still can't make Nikon's 2000-grade lithography machine, and neither DUV/EUV photoresists and other critical chemicals which Japanese firms now monopolize. So, China is leading what? Delusional vaporware announcement and CCP bots spamming it like a retard?
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>>545389818
>China still can't make Nikon's 2000-grade lithography machine
Chinese DUV immersion steppers have already surpassed anything Japan can produce.
And now Japan's image sensor market will die
https://i.4cdn.org/pol/1793648906938046.png
Sorry for the bad news Poopjeet.
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>>545383257
I count 10 skulls there not 25000.
Allied propaganda is so nauseating.
Eternal glory to the imperial japan
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>>545371239
Bro why did they do us dirty by including us on the chart?
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>>545389818
Chinks can only develop inferiority complex. Imagine coming all the way to Japanese man-owned 4chan to shill your country. lol
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>>545389818
>>545389172
A.I makes research so easy this days, you can easily find info. China utterly dominates so many industries, and not just on the mid-low end, but high end as well. It's telling that all Japan has left is photoresist and niche semiconductor related products, which China is also gaining ground on fast anyway.
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>>545390407
Saarrr we are Pajeets larping as Japjeeets saaar
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>>545390045
>>545390557
>Chinese lithography
LOL,
LMAO even

Keep scamming that FDI, wumao, you'll catch up to the where the West is currently eventually
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>>545391040
https://www.euvlitho.com/2021/S34.pdf

Oh is someone scared that Europe's only real tech company is under threat? The best part is that nobody can ever claim that China copied or stole a FEL based EUV light source.
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>>545391191
>A.I makes research so easy this days
Well, I did it and it said China's import of Japanese machines and chemicals both increased from last year. Shoutout to AI for confirming you are an insecure Chinaman who just brings up baseless claims
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>>545371239
>Two more weeks until Japan collapses.
>Two more weeks until China collapses.
>Two more weeks until Korea collapses.
>Two more weeks until Europe collapses.
>Two more weeks until Canada collapses.
>Two more weeks until USA collapses.
>Two more weeks until Russia collapses.
>Two more weeks until Ukraine collapses.
>Two more weeks until India reaches nirvana.

This racket has been going on for decades and multiple generations now. It's a recurring meme in the news cycle like self-driving cars, underpayed interns and consooming product for longevity, beauty and strength. When are you going to learn?

>But this time it's different because AI!
Yeah yeah and the end of history has already happened with the invention of democracy, capitalism, the discovery of genes, the gene project, the large hadron collider, Y2K, return of the Anunaki in 2012 and so on.

But Zoomers don't know so just post whatever and they'll consoom your info like a sermon on the mount.
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>>545385094
>They want so badly to go back to isolationist Imperial Japan that they can taste it.

All north east asians are like that.
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Shit done by these gooks is still reliable. Shit but compared to rest is still good.
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>>545372918
That's a lot of links
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>>545391040
>Keep scamming
See>>545389750
China is building a lot of robots now,
the robots needs eyes.
And Japan will not benefit from any of this production, they will be using Chinese robot eyes, chinese chips in general, while Japan will continue to lose market share.
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>>545391248
No link because you're faking it as always.

https://oec.world/en/profile/bilateral-country/jpn/partner/chn

>In July 2026, Japan exported ¥2.01T and imported ¥2.78T from China, resulting in a negative trade balance of ¥776B. Between July 2025 and July 2026 the exports of Japan increased by ¥412B (25.8%) from ¥1.6T to ¥2.01T, while imports increased by ¥578B (26.2%) from ¥2.21T to ¥2.78T.

Japan has been running a major trade deficit with China for years now.
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>>545391248
>China's import of Japanese machines and chemicals
Pajeet, what is this?
https://i.4cdn.org/pol/1793647648060840.png
Why is your Amerimutt master so upset?
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>>545391450
That's entire trade that includes food and daily supplies, which jobs gone to China only because you Chinamen work for peanut. Thanks great slave work.
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>>545382582
Why is she so upset?
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>>545391633
Have you seen a pajeet gas station recently?
They are very similar to Jap gas station, nobody can afford the fuel from there.

In China they can afford transportation juuuust fine.
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>>545391633
China has more robots per capita than Japan or Germany btw.
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Huh, ching chong bros, what is this?
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>>545371239
China won.
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>>545391850
It's called the sole industry that Japan still has a edge in? Photoresist and other niche semiconductor products, that China is already starting to gain ground in.
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>>545392014
>posting the link that confirms that you are an insecure Chinaman who only makes baseless claims
I see. You are just a dumb person.
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>>545371239
China lost..
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>>545371239
China is over.
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>>545392139
So Japan's edge in this single sector makes up for the hundreds of other industries that they lost global leadership of?
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>>545392139
It says these chinks can only produce iPhone knock-offs, and LIB battery which they copied and stole from Japan. lol
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>>545391871
Thanks Anon. That's a really good chart that shows Chinese dominance in
28nm (pre 2023 era)
14nm (post 2023 era)
7nm (post 2023 era)

The decline is Europe, Usa, Japan is natural since they only have old equpment.
But the decline in the Asia-PAcific line is the interesting one, that's Taiwan, Singapore, Korea losing 28nm marketshare to China.
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>>545371239
Laugh at the retard who didn't label his axes.
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>>545392484
Lack of EUV is the only thing stopping China from destroying TSMC and the Korean memory giants. The moment that they develop it themselves, it's game over for the rest of east Asia.
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>>545392745
>Lack of EUV is the only thing stopping China
They need EUV
But they also need time to learn how to use EUV.
Time to learn how to design efficient blueprints for EUV.
Experience can only come from time + failures + successes.

Right now they managed to build production line for DUV steppers, but even here they will also still need time to learn.
Nobody is born with mastery over lithography, it neeeds to be learned little by little.
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>>545371239
Chemicals is an underrated one. There was a report published on Monday by the Washington-based Rhodium Group which found that China’s industry was moving into more profitable, higher end segments formerly dominated by foreign companies. Not only were China’s exports to advanced economies rising but China has been displacing foreign sales in its own market quite rapidly and...outcompeting incumbents in the faster growing emerging markets. Reminder that the chemicals industry is at the forefront of disputes over China’s trade surplus, which is on track this year to exceed 2025’s record of $1.2tn.
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>>545391447
>China is building a lot of robots now,
to do what, exactly? who's going buy these lots of robots?
>inb4 aging chinese pensioners need something to do household chores
dude your economy is 110% fucked with over 50% unemployment and you want to take away even basic bitch home care jobs too? kek

thanks for confirming my (you)s are butthurt wumaos advertizing for the CCP FDI scam tho
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>>545391850
Meanwhile, China will export 30x more car than it imports this year.

In 2020, the ratio was 1:1.
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>>545393126
>to do what, exactly?
War. Border patrols, there is a lot of Jap glowniggers operating in Mongolia right now.
Americans tried some special operations in Northkorea a few years back.

Chinese robotics will bring a new era of security in east Asia.
Plus west Asia will also need modernised security from the european barbarians.
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>>545393126
>to do what, exactly? who's going buy these lots of robots?

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/east-asia/china-canton-fair-robots-human-labour-replacement-6065156

What can't robots do?

>thanks for confirming my (you)s are butthurt wumaos advertizing for the CCP FDI scam tho

Yes because random 4channers are able to invest millions into china, who has a complex FDI market...
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>>545393126
To build the 4th industrial revolution. One of the reason why their EVs are so affordable is because most of the production is automated now.
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>>545393243
>cutting imports altogether to fuck foreign car companies = great success
>dumping cars = sales
no

also jap and euro cars are infinitely better but at least Beijing figured out it needs to finally ramp up domestic consumption of the crap it produces, then you can finally find out it's crap so you can start to improve it

obviously when you create cars solely for export dumping and datamining and spontaneously combusting you're not going to make very good cars
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>>545371239
Don't forget batteries.
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>>545393963
If you think that Chinese exports are solely due to dumping and state subsides, why did they only start taking off in the last 5 years? It's also like the quality shot up too.
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>>545393963
Stop coping faggot
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>>545393978
>batteries
You should add that ATL money all go to Japan, because Japan owns it. Chinamen are just slave workers, it's tough but true.
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>>545394411
Japan has spoken.
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>>545394621
Forgot pic.
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Niponsisters... I dont feel so good
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>>545393830
>>545394188
But Volvo and MG sales accounted for the overwhelming bulk of those and basically because China has duped people into thinking those aren't made in China and owned by China. People are catching on how terrible eg BYD are too so I'm fairly sure those companies are facing an uphill battle dumping and selling in Europe.
>Excluding Volvo: ~795,000 units (~6% European market share), up ~90% from 417,000 in 2024.
>Including Volvo: ~1.12–1.13 million units (~8.2–8.4% share).
>Leading pure Chinese brands (excl. Volvo): MG (~304,000), BYD (~184,000), Jaecoo (~56,000), Omoda (~52,000), Polestar (~48,000), Leapmotor (~34,000). With Volvo included, it leads overall Chinese-controlled volume (~326,000).
>inovev.com
Basically all Volvo and MG.
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>>545395031
You're using 2025 sale figures, 2026 has been a banger year for almost all of the Chinese brands. And don't forget that Europe has a 30% tariff rate on Chinese EVs.

https://www.autonews.com/retail/sales/ane-chinese-sales-august-8-months-0922/

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-10-26/chinese-carmakers-overtake-japan-europe-byd-chery-toyota-nissan
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>>545394610
l(mao)
>Complete Divestment (2015): While Japan's TDK initially retained a 15% minority stake in the new CATL entity, it completely divested its remaining shares.

Too add insult to injury, China is now the clear leader in hydrogen as well, although it has approached hydrogen differently than Japan.

Instead of hydrogen fuel cells, China's approach builds on its critical mass of renewables infrastructure to synthesize hydrogen as well as hydrocarbon derivatives. If this were Civilization or StarCraft, japan got "build order" wrong by trying to jump straight to hydrogen.
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>>545395031
BYD is beginning to outsell Tesla in europe
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>>545395268
Kek of course I'm using 2025 figures because 2026 still has two months to go, that's how using yearly figures works.

Also
>China auto industry inflates sales by exporting new cars as 'used'
>China has been shipping new cars as 'used' overseas since 2019
>Chinese state media condemned the domestic 'zero mileage' used car market
>But local Chinese governments actively promote it to meet economic targets from Beijing
>BEIJING/SHANGHAI, June 24 (Reuters) - China's auto industry has inflated car sales for years through a burgeoning government-backed grey market that registers new cars right off the assembly line and then ships them overseas as "used" vehicles.
https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/local-chinese-governments-promote-zero-mileage-used-car-exports-inflating-sales-2025-06-23/
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>>545395031
This is BYD, Chery vs Toyota, Nissan in Europe
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China will naturally be better than Japan, they do have 10x the population after all. The issue is that japan is getting mogged by SK too, which has less than half Japan's population. SK is also eating into every single market that Japan once dominated. The issue is not that other countries are doing better than Japan, it's that Japan is stagnating hard. Almost uniquely so, those fax machines memes are memes for a reason. It's not even that Japan doesn't innovate, it's that they don't even adopt new technology. This is a country that has to import 99% of it's oil and still refuses to buy EVs. China still lags behind in innovation compared to America, but they are fast followers and will adopt any new technology fast.
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>>545395690
You actually don't understand that article.

They register the car domestically, get subsidy if it's EV, and export it as a second hand car. So it is inflating domestic sales, but it LOWERS EXPORS of new cars (because no new car was exported, only "second hand" one).

But here's the thing. China is innovating so fast that nobody wants to buy a 6 month old model. Why would they? The el cheapo BYD Seagull with God's Eye ADAS is all of $9,500, without the ADAS it is $7,800, it was introduced at $10,600 in April 2023. The Seagull sells about as many copies as the Wuling MINI EV that starts at about half the price, so China consumers don't mind paying the extra money for a better outfitted vehicle. The sweet spot for China EVs seems to be $10-$12K to hit the best sellers podium, less expensive vehicles are underspec'd and more expensive vehicles aren't good value for the money or get into the near luxury market segment.

China's zero mileage used EVs aren't used in our sense of the word but they are obsolete technology. Our dealerships typically have inventory clearance sales of last year's model to make room on the lot for this year's models. In China's fast moving EV market last year's model is already obsolete so off to the export market they go. We've seen this happen with flat screen TVs and PCs but we didn't have 100% tariffs on those products.
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>>545395872
This chink painful to see. Repeating wannabe words like "Innovation" and "New technology", while the rest of the world only see chinks as "Bug insectoid who only copies and steals".

You never be liked by anyone, you wish chink. lmao
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>>545393963
FYI, China is the only country researching for a solution to battery combustion.

And you're in luck, they succeeded.
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I agree, I was just there for a trip.
Not just that they have been falling behind with technology which what they were known for but their young people are just too comfortable. The older people there seemed more human while the younger crowd are robots coasting on the countries past accomplishments and wealth thinking the good times will last forever without putting effort into sustaining it. Some say Covid did irreversible damage to an already existing problem with them.
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>>545395703
The sky's the limit when your national motto is
>if you can cheat, cheat
I wouldn't be surprised if China's literally instructing expats to buy Chinese cars by threat or payments, too. See >>545395690

All I know is I would never set foot in a Chinese car, certainly not before having produced offspring and enough wealth and a will and testament, kek

I can't even comprehend who in their right mind here in Europe actually buys these pieces of junk, risking not just their own life but that of their loved ones and all other road users.

All to save perhaps a few K driving in something where the build quality is literally life or death as even the best driver could get caught up in a highway mass accident through no fault of their own. Especially the more Chinese cars there are.
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>>545372918
China has just two more weeks before they fall apart
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>>545396105
This Pajeet continues to poop and shit for hours.
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Its to be expected, they make the same mistakes as the west: give womens rights and political autonomy, deindustrialise and hinge the economy around speculative financial institutions and importing everything.

Basically Japan has no children, no industry or any kind of autarky, lower social cohesion and fake jobs for foids and boomers.

They need to impregnate all their women, start building industry and blue collar stuff and insulate themselves from the social maladies of leftism, islam and globohomo.
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>>545395872
The lost decade didn't come for South Korea. Even with their terrible birthrates, their economy is still chugging along while their GDP per capita has surpassed Japan. South Korea was able to continue innovating.

Japan missed out on all the major post-90s growth sectors from software/AI/internet to smart phones and renewables.

Lost chips to Taiwan, consumer electronics and heavy industry to Korea and is now in the process of losing its flagship auto franchise and machine tooling industry to China.

Going from bleeding-edge tech and industrial superpower to an island tourism driven economy in three decades.
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>>545395982
>But here's the thing. China is innovating so fast that nobody wants to buy a 6 month old model.
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>>545396510
Is this your ancestor, chink? I feel so bad for Japanese soldiers who had to clean up these smelly chink corpses there. lol
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>>545396296
Nigger stop coping it's embarrassing
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Your posting only leaks inferiority and chinksect-like creepness, you know why? Because you chinks are bug race who only copy and mimic human activity.

Wanna killed again by Japanese men, chinksect insectoid? Dumb chink?
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>>545396857
You can kill chinksects on the spot, they are real bugs, and I like that our grandpas actually slaughtered them like bugs. lol
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>>545396673
The cope is all yours, wumao.
I didn't start a thread on a Singaporean VPN trying to trashtalk Japan in order to attract more scammed FDI going Beijing's way.

>July 28 (Reuters) - A tactic used by Chinese automakers and dealers to inflate car sales has grown increasingly common in recent years in response to a bruising price war in the world's largest auto market, a Reuters analysis of consumer complaints has found.
>Earlier this month, Reuters reported EV brands Neta and Zeekr had arranged for cars to be insured before buyers purchased them, a scheme that effectively inflates sales numbers and gives the appearance the companies were hitting periodic targets.
>But the controversial tactic was not limited to the two companies and was employed elsewhere in the industry, according to a Reuters review of 97 separate consumer complaints published on three widely used Chinese websites.
>In more than a dozen cases, buyers said they were informed by dealerships that the practice was specifically designed to meet sales targets.
>The allegations cover some of China's largest domestic and foreign brands by sales volume, including homegrown champion BYD and Toyota, Volkswagen and Buick. The three foreign brands operate their China businesses in partnerships with state-owned giants GAC and SAIC Motor Group.
https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/chinese-consumer-complaints-show-widespread-padding-car-sales-figures-2025-07-28/
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>>545396510
Yeah Japan is done for. The Iran war and high energy prices are likely the final straw. For a country that has to import so much of it's fossil fuels, record energy prices will fuck Japan over hard.
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>>545396596
Saaarrrr your ancestor just slipped on poop and killed himself on the mountain.
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>>545396857
You should've take demolish the chinks and gooks at the time but you couldn't. Too bad. Your GDP was much larger than the other countries in Asia. At that point in time, Korea and China were agrarian states poorer than Africa, while Japan was an industrial power.

You couldn't defeat the chinks when they were at their absolute weakest, their poorest and most wretched. They still stalemated Japan even before the US joined the war. You simply stopped making any progress or advancement in china.

Now you lost your chance. China's economy is multiple times larger than japan, its population is 11x japan (a multiplier much higher than in 1940), china's tech has eclipsed japan and china has nukes and would blot out the sky of tokyo with a million drones on the first day. japan barely even has an army and it's ageing rapidly
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>>545397404
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>>545397005
>You can kill
Pajeet is it normal for you be murdeours when you get riled up and butthurt?
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>>545371239
They have nice J-POP. Post your favourite J-POP classics.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZxzPcT1Meg
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Too bad no amount of your schizophrenic wall text won't erase these pics, cope and seethe, chink. lol
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>>545397216
America is fucking them over with energy prices which is making them even more uncompetitive against China.

It's funny because we indirectly helped China against Japan with the Plaza Accord which jump started China's industrial base. Due to the Yen appreciating and Japanese exports becoming much more expensive globally, firms like Sharp, Sanyo, Sony moved their manufacturing to China. Then came Taiwanese companies. Reminder that the west was still pussyfooting around investing in china and even cut back FDI after tiannamen square massacre. But because Japan leveraged an industrial base in China that proved to be too globally competitive, other countries eventually followed.
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>>545397788
Pajeeeeet sasaar, your ancesor fight with stinky feet weapon, it was ineffective!!
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I can endlessly spam these pics just for a kek.
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>>545371239
what is new tech one must have? it isn't AI as it is just scam like crypto
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>>545398141
Saaarr we have endless pooop saaaar
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>>545398164
>what is new tech one must have?
Factories.
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>>545371239
>>Lost their robotics, shipbuilding, rockets, nuclear, machine tool, chemicals, lithography, software, semiconductors, electronics, hydrogen, biotech, aviation industry
they still dominate printers



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