Florida JET CRASH pilot and co-pilot:BOTH DEAD, and are the ones present in this image.Pilot: Jeffrey GregoryCo-pilot: Nathalia Filgueiras
>>545407061Pilot: Jeffrey Gregory, aged 55Co-pilot: Nathalia Filgueiras, aged 20
>>545407061Spic mutt woman was at fault. Anyone trying to blame the white man is a Jew. Post with caution.
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>>545407061>>545407175F
>>545407061He looks competent. It sounds like traffic-control killed them
>>545407185The cold probably froze parts of the fuel and other parts of liquids in the engine, such as oil-things which are also a liquid.So, it was Nature’s fault, and the white man, despite being from the most intelligent of the human races, the white race, was kind of stupid for not noticing that these liquids into the jet might freeze before and during the flight due to the cold present in the climate/weather.Sad. R.I.P. white race man pilot.
>>545407061Pilot: Jeff Gregory, age 55Co-pilot: Nathalia Filgueiras, age 20
>>545407279Such a beautiful plane. It's a shame it had to end like this.
>>545407061>>545407175Sad. Rest in peace.
>>545407478>It sounds like traffic-control killed themReally there’s many such cases, unironically.
>>545407061F
>>545407478he does, he's the guy the company actually trusts with the plane, and was calling the shotsno idea, apparently, that plane has de-icers (or should have)an anon mentioned it yesterday, but i havent heard much speculation about that since
>>545407061the intoxicating presence of barely legal cunny turned his brain to mush, or was soon going to. RIP.
>>545407718They misjudged. By this time there was a small amount of fuel. They probably only had just enough to make it because of weight issues. Less fuel freezes faster.
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>>545407478He was heard praying on frequency as his plane plummeted towards the ground, with the spic girl yelling at him to open his eyes. He was a christcuck retard
i'm not a fan of rear body mounted jet engine configurations, better to have the engines on the wings
>>545407061Not surprising a migger is 100% at fault l, just like it was miggers who cause the accident in March at LaGuardia
>>545407061pigskin low iq caused the plane to crash
>>545408738>>545408808>brown and yellow IDsthey hate us cuz they aint us
>>545407061horizontal stabiliser was missing at the time of impact. Could have been the cause of the crash if it somehow broke off in the storm, or it could have torn off during the dive. It if tore off during the dive it should be near the crashsite, otherwise it should be along the flight path. https://aerospaceglobalnews.com/news/learjet-60-crash-horizontal-stabiliser-explained/>The reported turbulence and the pilot’s mention of icing to air traffic control could have resulted in a weather related upset that was unrelated to the missing stabiliser. What we do know is that the aircraft plummeted to the ground very fast, with Flightradar data suggesting speeds of more than 32,000 feet per minute at its peak. Such extreme speeds could have resulted in a separation of the horizontal stabiliser on descent.>Had the horizontal stabiliser failed, detached or otherwise malfunctioned in flight, a sudden nose down dive would be a likely outcome, but it doesn’t necessarily explain why this accident occured. Should this be the case, there is a chance investigators will find this part of the aircraft away from the crash site, somewhere along the flight path.
>>545407185Lmao listen to the audio, he froze up and was praying, she had to yell at him to fly the plane
>>545409018Personally I think the plane got shot down. AA defenses all over Mar-a-lago and word of a serious threat. Next day a plane nosedives into the ground missing part of its tail. You don't have to be a genius to figure it out.
>>545407061Wow we really needed another thread about this. Thanks for being such a quality poster you retarded fucking monkey.
>>545409018i think its just video compressionthere are two videosthe other from further away, it suffers less from those compression-skips and has the tail wingsi think theydve also heard and reported it, and that it ripping off would also have sent the plane spiralling along some axisostensibly, it was a mint condition plane as it hit the groundit was just too fast going the wrong waywings freeze up, thats weight and loss of controlsthe plane starts to fallby the time it unfreezes, youre already going too fast towards earth to recoverhence the pilot already praying, since he knows its overand he wont care about the rookie foid still reporting protocol instead of casting her prayerswas the de-icer sabotaged?does that plane not have a de-icer?what's it really called?i dont fly planes, but i understand physics
>>545407718>The cold probably froze parts of the fuel and other parts of liquids in the engine, such as oil-things which are also a liquid.>2026>the fucking cold is still a problemWhy are modern engineers so useless
>>545409050>he froze up and was praying,control surfaces iced up, mach 1 dive, horizontal stabilizer torn off, "just fly the plane better, goy"
>>545409148its a bit small, but some anon insists theres the tail wing there somewhere
>>545408909Be a man for the first time in your life and own being incompetent miggers
>>545409050The co-pilot is the one responsible for checking the weather conditions. Unfortunately, for that particular type of jet, once the engines get iced up and you're in free fall, it's beyond recovery. The pilot knew this.
>>545408462>Less fuel freezes faster.Yeah. And this happens way more in small jets and its small wings (where the fuel stays) than it happens in big planes and its big wings (where the fuel stays), due to the proximity of the metal wings to the fuel and to the cold of the external environment. Larger portions of fuel, such as the present in big planes with big wings, are more difficult to freeze that way.
>>545409447>once the engines get iced updo engines really ice up?id imagine its warmth from operating constantly melts ice away
>>545409287>does that plane not have a de-icer?It used engine bleed air (hot air from combustion) routed through tubes at the leading edge of the wings. De-icer was probably working. Leading edges are polished so it's harder for ice to stick to them as well.
>>545409320The cold didn't freeze the fucking fuel or oil. That anon is a fucking retard. Fuel lines can freeze up if they aren't properly maintained abd there is water in the lines.
>>545409287nah, it's just not there. It should be visible in the 2nd frame.
>>545409792Correct. It's a T-tail stabilizer and it should be there. It's not.
>>545409447woman fucks up, man accepts the consequences. Tale as old as time.
>>545408335Jesus LMAO
>>545409416> Miggers Always a brown coded shitskin saying this
>>545407478having a young woman in the cockpit is a massive distraction and huge liability, especially in 2026
>god please save m-ACK!
They were flying pretty well until the pavement got in the way....
>>545409018>horizontal stabiliser was missing at the time of impactmaybe you should learn how CMOS sensors work
>>545409406lol
>>545410437I've heard at the speed they were going it's like flying straight into water...
>>545409320Because they are women and jeets. Everything as we knew it is over anon. And the most plausible theory is actually that the de-icer and/or stabilizer was sabotaged in order to kill the tech bro who certainly had access to Mossad tier dirt on fucking everybody.
>>545408462>Less fuel freezes faster.>>545409787>The cold didn't freeze the fucking fuel or oil.So, fuel (and oil) freezes or not?Any genius here already tested this scientific experience in your home’s freezer?
>>545409018I think the stabs were still on there, if not I'd lean toward over speed tearing them off. They wanted to increase altitude to get out of the turbulent air, but the reason it was getting so bad is there was a storm form that had an air pressure change as they went through and rolled the plane left and put them in a nose dive. Probably could have saved it if they pulled throttle and pulled up, but who knows for sure. There was definitely icing which kills control authority and lowers stall speed.
>>545410305Nobody likes you jewish dicklickers for a long time faggot.
>>545407061source? is that really the real pilot?
>>545411434The icing they are talking about is on the wings that basically rape your ability to get lift from your air foils
>>545407061So who’s jack?
>>545407175WHO THE FUCK IS JACK!
>>545407061She's got TITTIESWhat shape would those take on in a -15G dive?
>>545411490Forgot image
>>545411632>>545411664Don't let go Jack, don't let go.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2WH8mHJnhM
>>545409792The stabilizer is missing, but it's more likely that it broke off during the high speed nose dive, rather than being the cause of the dive. It certainly ended any chance of recovering from the dive, though.The plane was already icing and they turned and flew directly through a storm cell.
>>545409723>Leading edges are polished so it's harder for ice to stick to them as well.i think thats also done to cut fuel costsbut i suppose they dont just melt ice off the way a windshield wiper wipes water offif theres a switch for it, it may have been erroneously left turned off
>>545410262I guess Toph might really laugh at that.
>>545409050Here’s an extended (6 minutes) audio, dunno if you guys have seen it. https://x.com/HarrisonHSmith/status/2117113553656160461?a=NkQqok_TqxjfJteTIio&s=20
>>545409792>>545409406its there, its just so fast, you guys cant believe it
>>545407061She called the pilot “Jack” howeverthobeitso
>>545409018NTSB already acknowledged a .5 mile debris field from before impact
>>545411632>>545412007Maybe a nickname or some kind of reference?
>>545412156>hi my name is Jeff, you can call me JackNah
>>545411632They're trying to say she said Jeff now. No I'm not joking. Glownigger criminals are fucking mad.>>545391225
>>545411664this
>>545412007they named the monkey Jack
>>545412007It was due to her in panic. She wanted to say “Jeff”. I bet.
>>545407061and the faggot who charted the plane was this asshole who apparently thought it was good to try and identify "anonymous" website users for marketing and tracking purposes.I'm glad he and his cunt family died. Piece of shit loser couldn't even bother to fly a commercial airline to his gay Bahamas trip.
>>545408544Maybe the plane was completely unresponsive and he knew what was coming.>>545412007Maybe he goes by jack instead of jeff to forget about his past as a cartel mule or just to be that guy
>>545412287this asshole right here
>>545412156it's like jackass. she was about to say jeff but the frustration made her curse at him. esl btw
>>545411929repost.It's just Jack bitching about his old lady and 401k
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>>545412007Lay em down and slack em jack em
>>545409148Trump killed another family of innocents.
>>545407803>55 year old boomer>addicted to gooning to onlyfans whores and "teen" porn, especially ones where they call him "daddy" during dirty talk>zoomie thot is your copilot>*better impress*>"call me jack">"check out these flight tricks. im cool right? youre mature for your age">"evade the storm? im too cool for that"
>>545409542It's more the wings ice up, so instead of air going over the wings correctly it's just a brick of ice. And bricks don't fly.
>>545412379nah, typicaly in the US "Jack" is used as an angry name to pick a fight wiith somebody. trans, not sure if that matters
why does this shit feel so fakewhy does every single video put the audio in a different order with a different amount of time between each instance of speech
>>545407061I would have Filgue'd her iras, IYKWIMAITYD...
>>545412664>why does every single video put the audio in a different order with a different amount of time between each instance of speechanon, it is the hell that poor esmerelda must relive. She must suffer the plummet over and over again and keep contacting ATC until she gets the pilot's name correct (Jeff) notjack
>>545407478The plane stalled.I'm not a pilot to be able to tell why, but that's clearly what happened.He tried to go up at some speed and he went beyond the aerodynamic ceiling, thus making the plane lose air resistance. Then freefall and plane started losing pieces on the way down, no way to recover from that.
>>545412664Because it was a DEI pilot, not this white guy, and they're trying to cover that up. Private fliers would be outright refusing to fly with nons going forward this being a "last straw" event, causing massive disruption.
>>545407061Can't rule out the pilot purposefully crashing it at this point. One the things she shouts seems to be >Look outside Jeff
>>545412787>>545412808how long was she a pilot? even in the worst situations in every audio ive heard they are ludicrously calm, here she is screaming. do you think the audio is ai?
>>545412805>aerodynamic ceilingYou just outed yourself "pilot" anon. That is week 2 in the Brazilian Banana Flying School, there is NO ceiling.
>>545412967The original audio probably wasn't. Glowniggers are grabbing hosted server examples changing the name to Jeff.
>>545412879If you line up the audio and the altitude, that's when the get low enough to be below the clouds. He was already praying at that point.
>>545412879You ummoned Jack, he will grant you wishes 3
>>545407061This is like the 20th white guy this year to crash his plane, at what point do we ban these retards?
>>545409148Bud, the plane was downed right next to an air port. hundreds of planes are going around that area a day.
>>545412808Normally, I'd call you schizo, but there was a huge delay on releasing his photo, his LinkedIn profile lists a company that confirmed he only worked for the for a few months 10 years ago, and somehow he has 20 years experience on Lears. Shit don't add up.
>damn this thicc brazilian 20 year old is my co pilot good lord have mercy>she just said its nice to fly with someone with so much experience>i bet if i fly through this storm she’ll be a little frightened but ill assure her i can handle it>she be impressed when i fly through it and want to ride my experienced dick in the Bahamas >oh shit
>>545413156Normally I'd say it was completely retarded, I was quick to admit it probably wasn't a shoot down, but they're literally in this thread *insisting* against all reason that she said Jeff. I point to the ample 4plebs references and...mad glowniggers. The cost v benefit I outlined makes sense. Think how fucked up it gets when richers outright say NO to DEI pilots. Saying its some old white guy takes that off the table. Seriously read this thread, they're assmad.>>545391225
>>545413027seems like something one could script in a simulatorsomebody at the NTSB is likely working on that tomorrow, and has already started today
>>545413086>>545413023It's also possible Jeff may have been having some kind of medical related event occur at that moment; e.g. stroke / heart attack / seizure. I mean I'm not trying to come with excuse for diversity hires but it's realistic possibleIt's either>We're going to die JeffOr >Look outside JeffShe shouts, indicating she seems to think he may not know whats happening
>>545412976I worded it wrongly. There's this interval between low-speed limit and a high-speed and if the plane is too slow you stall, if it's too fast, you hit the Mach limit and the plane can fall apart.
>>545413376She says JACK.
>>545413329>seems like something one could script in a simulatorBenchots do be already milking the ms flight simulator recreations on x
>>545413023surely someone here has the original audio then.
>>545413510Probably yes, cached if they took it offline before the glownigger worm got into it.
>>545413510We don't have the audio.And don't call us Shirley
>>545413376but can't copilots take the control in emergency
>>545409792>>545409884AIR DRONE MINE
>>545407061Do you think she ever did anal?
>>545409050It’s very possible it was a suicide by the boomer pilot
>>545413510https://www.tmz.com/2026/11/01/florida-plane-crash-audio/
>>545409342lol this if you're in an uncontrolled dive with major control surface give it's prayer time, that's all that's left. They died because the devil called in the marker on the POS tech faggot. But it's ok they are with God while he boils in excrement
>>545413770Maybe, but i think he already knew they were gonna die. I think they hit over speed and he started praying for his soul cuz his life was over
>>545411278which then happened to land in trumps front yardopposite the airporti mean, your speculation sounds very plausible, its just that the crash there and then mustve been random chanceunless they spontaneously conjure stormsnot impossible, but probably everybody in palm springs would notice thatit seems its just nature
>>545409447>The co-pilot is the one responsible for checking the weather conditionsThe pilot would be the one planning the route, and would be expected to check on weather conditions along the way.
>>545413770ok 1v1 zoomette vs boomer fighting for life and death in the heavens, who wins
>>545407061Jeff was distracted by Nathalia's hotness. It's her fault, really.
>>545413771this is the same nonsensical audio im complaining about.
>>545414107Actualy the final words from Jeff were "Stop calling me JACK-ACKKKKKKKKKKK!"
>>545408335We all know this is the truth.
I am Jack's wasted life
Filgueiras' mother said she "always knew" that a plane would "take her far away from me."The pilot was flying to the Bahamas when the plane plummeted 20,000 feet per minute into the ground."I wanted her to live her dream, but I knew her dream would be the thing that took her away from me," her mother told the New York Post."I knew a plane would take her away from me. I always knew that, but I was so proud of her. I know she was living her dream."Just 10 minutes before the crash, Filgueiras reportedly sent a text to her boyfriend: "I'm in turbulence, I'm icing up."The 20-year-old young woman obtained her pilot's license in high school. Her stepfather says she had 1,300 hours of experience.In a social media post, Filgueiras boasted about how young she was as a pilot alongside her boyfriend."How often do you see 2 pilots under 21 with a commercial license, multi-engine, instrument, CFI/CFI-I," she said.
>>545407718Why are you such a sucker? It's pathetic how some M***zilians here suck up to Americans
>>545414161https://x.com/RT_com/status/2116996814612189232This one it's clearly jack. Can hear a clean K and A.
>>545413407>She says JACK.I've run the audio from X through an AI translator and it thinks it's Jack but I'm pretty sure that's her microphone clipping from the overload of her shouting into at the end of the name. There's also no one on the plane called jack. Only other person it could be she's referring to could the air traffic controller.
>>545407061That video of the crash is so sus and im not even an "everything is fake and ai" guy but it doesnt look right to me
>>545414489Apparently the brown guy pilot she's in pictures with was named Jack. I don't know. But it's clear what she says. Anyone trying to say Jeff is a *fucking liar*.
one thing I learned over the years of seeing and being involved in accidents is that they are always an amalgamation of fuckups that erupt into an catastrophe.So yeah, the bitch certainly didn't help, but there are more culprits out there, ATC, the pilot and maintenance are likely to be involved too.
>>545409018>>545409884I still suspect that, due to the framerate and low resolution, it merely looks as though the plane has lost its stabiliser.The images even blend into one another in places.Iceing is a sufficient explanation, really. Wouldn't a pilot also notice a missing stabiliser? Wouldn't that have a significant impact?If they'd noticed it, it would have been part of their communication with ATC.
*Whoop* *Whoop* Pull. Up.*Whoop* *Whoop* Pull. Up.
>>545414548Maybe she is used to flying with jack, pilots name is jeff, four letter name starts with J both common names, knowing shes crashing into the ground at the speed of sound makes her mis speak. It’s like when you accidentally call your teacher mom, happens all the time.
>>545414548She literally screaming into the microphone in multiple parts of the audio. It's Jeff, distorted and clipped.
>>545408335I mean, not enough blood was going to his brain for a reason. He was bricked up something fierce.
>>545414776Holy fuck you glownigger sack of dogshit. I cannot wait until you're all starving to death in well deserved third world jail cells.
>>545414252>https://www.tmz.com/2026/11/01/florida-plane-crash-audio/10min before she is reporting icing it is mind boggling to me they didn't deviate
I am not sorry for her. She got everything handed to her in life solely for being a beautiful woman.
>>545407185It looked like a suicide desu ive seen tons of plane crash videos this one is very sus
>>545414568>I drove into a thunderstorm that I could have flown around but it's the fault of maintenancePilots. Every single fucking time.
>>545412805prob the woman flying
>>545414897True, lfmao
>>545411664Jef-ACK! sounds like J-ACK
>>545414816Dude literally flew thru the storm bc he wanted to impress the 20 year old hottie pilot in hopes she lets him hit in the bahamas
>>545414252>In a social media post, Filgueiras boasted about how young she was as a pilot alongside her boyfriend.How many dicks did she had to suck? Or how many old guys thought they would be sucked and tricked? lfmao
>>545414998None required, nowadays. The vast majority of men over 40 are turbo simps and irredeemable and the sooner they all die, the better for humanity, even if it means dropping my country to majority non-white it means things will actually be done about both the non-white and the female problems.
>>545414776I know I have a thesis that says that women usually panicks and start screaming as a remnant of natural defenses. Allow me to explain.In the natural world, animals rely on their natural behavior to grant their safety, on mammals (we) that defense is provided by an alfa which is the stronger member of the group and can provide that defense when needed, while women usually are protected they have this natural behavior, animal reflex, of screaming in order to amplify their need for help. That's why in every dangerous situation involving violence you will hear a woman screaming, she is not doing it cause she lost control, they do it cause just like men are naturally inclined to focus and try to solve an issue, women are naturally inclined to believe they will be protected and in order to warn the whole group that danger is near, they scream.
>>545414986Probably would have too, high risk, high reward. Lol. But seriously if they did lose the tail stabilizer you’re fucked anyway you slice it.
>>545407061>white male pilot crashes killing everyone on boardEvery. Damn. Time.
Looks like this is what most likely happened. Is there a way to parachute out of plane at this speed?
>>545414633>I still suspect that, due to the framerate and low resolutionNo. They lost a stabilizer.>Iceing is a sufficient explanationIt's not. Even with as retarded as the pilots were, they should have leveled off and recovered. >Wouldn't a pilot also notice a missing stabiliser? Yes, after you decrease Angle of Attack you have greater airspeed and you can level off. If you pull up and the airplane isn't responsive, it's obvious you lost your stabilizer. You are probably going to get a "stabilizer fail" message on the MFD. >If they'd noticed it, it would have been part of their communication with ATC.The foid was so stupid she probably never realized it was missing. Pilot probably realized how fucked he was and started praying. Then impact. Every piece of evidence we have (which isn't a lot) indicates a missing stabilizer. Only question is whether the stall and nosedive caused it or the missing stabilizer caused the nosedive.
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>>545415147what about that indian flight?oh yeah, one dude literally walked away from the crash LOL
>>545414834https://voca.ro/1ctT4A1ANvd2
>>545415207I still refuse to believe he was on board. Jeet scammer.
>>545415203not implausible, but i believe to be able to see the stabilizer in the other videoits hinted at, it would look different if it were gonet. know video compression
It is the responsability of the pilot the pre-flight inspection to determine if the aircraft is in a safe condition for flight before taking off. White boomer is at fault for the accident.
>>545407061What I love about this story is it’s the talk of the town right now and in a couple days when the nukes drop going out five years from now no one will even remember hearing about this story or talking about
>>545415203The stabilizer caused the complete nose dive. You can’t pitch up without it. Stalls can be recovered, even complete engine failure you can glide the plane somewhat to the ground if the instruments are working and live, lost stabilizer YOURE FUCKED
>>545415205look, fuck you, i dont careits there
>>545415297You have a check list, and inspecting the stabilizer and tail is one of the things you check before you reach the sky.
>>545411632>>545411664>>545411745>>545412007>>545412232>>545412255>>545414171>>545414971Hear;>>545415225
>>545415314yeah but that wouldve been relayed to ATC
>>545415386Where ATC would relay, you are fucked. Best they could do is try to steer it to water so when you crash you don’t injure anyone on the ground. That’s probably the best they could do, you’re falling nose down 22000 feet a minute. It’s over, stabilizer is stuck in downward position.
>>545415193>Is there a way to parachute out of plane at this speed?It's totally possible to parachute out of an airplane at or near Mach speed. Just open the crew service door which is designed to open in an environment where the cabin is pressurized. Opening the service door is pretty easy. From there, you just calmly jump out of the plane. For a plane with engines mounted near the empennage on nacelles, you don't have to worry about the engine intakes. Just deploy the thrust reversers to redirect thrust and you should be safe. Not sure why this isn't done more often.
>>545415527You would need to move ass falling at 22,000 feet a minute. Probably not enough time. Abandon ship is done in naval application.
>>545408335This is the answer. If there are two males in the cockpit, accident would have never happened.
>>545407061I LOVE WHEN CHRIGGERS DIE>oh muh fathahHAHAH GOD CAUSED YOU DIE LOL
>>545415504Something they were ironically quite close to doing before it did a U turn mid dive.
>>545415314>The stabilizer caused the complete nose dive.Eh. Maybe. What we know from the ATC audio is they tried to climb, their wings were iced up, and they failed to climb. This indicates they tried to climb too fast or with too great an AoA and stalled. If their speed was too great, the recovery attempt would have sheared off the stabilizer. To me, this is the most probable scenario. If it was just a normal climb, I don't know why the stabilizer would have chosen that particular time to fail.
>>545413944>unless they spontaneously conjure stormsIt's possibleSign inNASA makes their own rain clouds from hydrogen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVo_CdRLoaE
I'm not even a pilot and know not to fly into a thunderstorm. Especially in a small ass private jet. The real question is why did the pilot make this decision?
>>545415203Nah, I think it was icing, they were in icing conditions for 10 minutes, and then as soon as they start climbing they stall out, typical of a plane especially one on auto pilot that has gotten iced up and has slowly drifted it angle of attack to max, they then tried to climb to 37000 feet but by trying to climb and increase that angle of attack that little bit further puts them into a stall. however since they were also entering an updraft the planes nose dropped faster than they were aniticipating and in the over speed the overweighed with ice horizontal stab probably broke off. I think they just didn't recover fast enough once the nose dropped.
>>545415788He thought he’d be okay if he prayed hard enough LOL
>>545415312This, basically
>>545415193>Is there a way to parachute out of plane at this speed?If you've got enough coin for a B1 bomber, the whole cabin ejects. If you're after the economy option, a Cessna.
>>545415358>You have a check list, and inspecting the stabilizer and tail is one of the things you check before you reach the sky.Please tell me how the pilot is going to inspect the stabilizer actuator rod end bolts and the jackscrew.
>>545415386>>545415504yeah, but theres ATC audio footage floating around the web where the stabilizer is never even mentionedATC comms is a public channel?i trust its legit, the news sites take it at face valueeither theyre in on the psy-op, or they themselves think that comm recording is real, and not some anons memecream
>>545416077>yeah, but theres ATC audio footage floating around the web where the stabilizer is never even mentionedThe foid was on comms and she seemed clueless. I doubt she knew what was going on. I mean, the pilot started praying and seemed to make his peace with his fate and she didn't figure it out until she saw the ground. Zero situational awareness on her part.
>>545416209the only way you get one one last time out is if you blurt it out on the recordingevery pilot is at odds with the cost-cutting manufacturerat 55, hed know all that shitit wasnt the stabilizer
>>545415912Make sure rudder has full range of motion, make sure the controls move efficiently but other than that, visual inspection before takeoff, and it was raining, but yeah eyeballing it before takeoff.
>>545412967most plane crashes the pilots believe the can pull it off til the end by the jobs nature they tend to be pretty egocentric but she was a 20 year old kid nosediving into the ground at 500 miles an hour man
>>545416739most plane crashes don't have the plane lawn dart from cruising altitude.
>>545415912He could request a deep mechanical inspection if he saw something off before taking off. He also flew close an airport before crashing yet did nothing until the very last seconds when there was nothing to do against it.Pilot is at fault here.
>>545416209Sounds about right.
>>545416699My point is you can't visually inspect the mounting hardware. A pilot can look at the stabilizer, but he can't see inside for mechanical problems that may exist. The control can function, but if a mounting bolt has microfractures and is about to give, no pilot can detect that.
>>545411434The aircraft has heat exchangers. Essentially, the warm engine oil warms the fuel and the cold fuel heats the oil. Even when the outside air temperature is -50C, the fuel is maintained much higher because of this system. That captain got rattled by that young girl next to him. I've seen it many times over the years. These white-bread motherfuckers can't handle being around pussy and lose their minds.
Ppl talk about the dei in flight but not talking about the dei in airplane maintenance they are trying to market this job to poors and low IQ as some great career path, so there is that angle as well.
>>545416869>Pilot is at fault here.I'm not disagreeing, but a visual inspection would not have helped. Not flying your aircraft into a fucking thunderstorm is the biggest thing the pilot could have done to prevent this crash.
>>545416921They do the best they can do, but yeah this is a maintenance error or lack thereof is the stabilizer was about to give,
>>545416978Planes fly in thunderstorms all the time without incident. That’s not why it malfunctioned. It’s like driving your car on a wet highway, or icy highway, you can still do it.
>>545407061Let's be frank, the white guy couldn't fly and was too busy daydreaming about fucking his co-pilot, which is why the plane went down. Why is there so much focus on the female? The white guy is to blame entirely.
>>545407478>sounds like traffic-control killed themCongrats are the single most retarded take. They ignored ATC an preceded on their path into a very strong weather cell.
>>545407429IRE
>>545408233The explanation I heard is that yes, the plane has de-icers, but only along the leading edge of the wings, and the air was so cold that the water was melting from the leading edge and re-freezing on the back half of the wing.
>>545417125shirley, you can't be serious. the copilot is supposed to be monitoring these kinds of things. she forgot or probably was on her period when she forgot to take readings.
Anyone got a catbox link of the full audio?
>>545416978If he saw some decalibration on the controls or lost of pressure in the systems for any unknown reason while midflight he could have landed and have it investigated. Again the airport was really close of the crash site yet he didn't send a single request for redirection.
>>545413399>I worded it wronglyChecked, and 'coffin corner' is the pilot speak, aerodynamic ceiling or Q corner.
>>545417164unreal
>>545416962>they are trying to market this job to poors and low IQ as some great career pathIt isn't a bad career path, but it isn't for morons. And quality maintenance is expensive. You are right though. A lot of aviation is pilot driven and they are glad to send their planes to Mexico for C-checks to save money and then wonder why their planes are broken and can't be released for service when they get back. You can't fix airplanes with unskilled labor and that seems to be all companies are willing to pay for.
>>545417531all the virtues that make for good pilots and maintenance crew have been flaunted the past thirty yearsits, well, "traditional" some say "conservative," because tried and tested beats new and shinybut that is, like, old people attitudes, right?>old or bold pilots>no old and bold pilotsand we're in this timeline, where i have to clarify bold does mean baldits all a part of the bigger picture (or lack of)
I'm so glad that incels who shit post all day long, never flown a plane nor studied theory, and certainly don't have a license or any aviation knowledge are giving their two cents
>>545417695>bold does mean bald*does notjfc, i should not be a pilotironically, with that attitude, im probably better suited than many who want to
>>545417017>but yeah this is a maintenance error or lack thereofLol. It wasn't a maintenance error. You wouldn't believe the kind of stresses these airplanes can take even with substandard maintenance. I've seen African companies straight up ignore maintenance for years and the planes still fly. The stabilizer was torn off in an overspeed condition. Maintenance didn't do that. Stupid pilots did.
>>545414252>texting during pilotingyikes
>>545417728But you didn't say they were wrong.
>>545417125>was too busy daydreaming about fucking his co-pilotMore like he couldn't actually give her direction or constructive criticism or he'd be reported to HR for expecting her to do her job so he had to just fly the plane himself.
>>545415911I thought the business jets are too heavy and fast for a reasonable parachute system to exist. Like in this case it wouldn't work if they were falling at 10,000 feet a minute.
>>545417728>I'm so glad that incels who shit post all day long,And you are right here shitposting along with us, and I guarantee you aren't having sex.
>>545407061lol such DEI, a white man and a latina, so much for blaming niggers and indians
>>545407061>>60 degrees >>triangle did anyone on the ground see a plane? dashcams footage looks fake. remote control plane. weather.
A coal burner and a data broker go down in a plane crash. It's hilarious how these meme incidents always happen to the most deserving people. Kind of like the pornhub incident.
>>545419021I had some weird jew trying to argue with me that it wasn't a rabbi that got shot. Strangest thing. https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/537759991/#537760522
>>545415205why didnt the pilots just jump out right before it hit the ground
If they had the radar pointed up +1 or +2 degrees to only paint the cells penetrating above their altitude, then descended into the growing cell, it wouldn't appear on their radar until a minute or less before "impact". Even if they tilted the radar down -.5 or -1 degrees to see the path below the airplane, the cell was growing rapidly inside of 5-6 minutes before they flew into it. When they were looking strategically for where to deviate around the side of the larger rain system, this cell wouldn't have appeared yet. In shitty old out of date Learjet radars it can be very difficult, and there often isn't color gradients, to differentiate general rain from cell cores. Modern radars have more sophisticated algorithms to characterize the precipitation and turbulence in the cells, and implement automatic tilt and broader scan angles to capture weather above and below into a composite image. Discount radars installed in cheap old jets paints green and not green. Using radar in dynamic weather environments for tactical navigation around storms isn't in the purview of a 1300 hour pilot with a few months in the airplane. It takes years to experience the various situations where radar tilt selection and interpretation plays a critical role in getting an accurate picture of cells during descent or climb. The older radars simply scan a narrow slice, so they require interpretation of the return images depending on angle, altitude and winds aloft around the cell. The 55 year old el Capitan should've known better. His fault for fucking it up. A new-hire with 1300 total time is a student, not responsible for the fuckup of Captain Greg The Egg.
>>545408335I can't breathe
>>545408335Now he's inside of her, everywhere, all at once, forever. Together.
>>545409468The metal is the same temperature as anything else. Metal isn't cold just because you feel it conducting heat more efficientlyjet fuel doesn't freeze any more or less from the presence of icing conditions. and won't typically gel or freeze down to -60 anyway. FBOs add prist to the fuel if it isn't already mixed in. you absolute monster retard
>>545407718They flew into a high turbulence heavy icing situation in a plane that's notorious for being sensitive to icing, then proceeded to not call an emergency to take another vector out of the weather conditions and instead flew directly into a massive cell, encountered precipitation which instantly accumulated all over their wings, caused a permanent stall condition and they went straight in. I don't know what the fuck that pilot was thinking when he passed on what had to have been a dozen points where a reasonable pilot would have stopped and considered the possibility of an icing induced stall in their near future. It's beyond baffling that they flew directly into the heart of a massive thunderstorm that everyone knew was there. And in a fucking learjet no less.
>>545420634piece of shit radars in old learjets >545419911
>>545420907>residential areaThis is very obviously a 4-lane highway. This is just like the other crash a couple years ago; they said the same thing there, too, even though it was in a shopping center.
>>545420984>This is very obviously a 4-lane highway. This is just like the other crash a couple years ago; they said the same thing there, too, even though it was in a shopping center.The crashsite is literally in the front yard of one of the plots in a trailerpark. There are residential homes all over the place down there. There are commercial properties too but it's overwhelmingly residential. Look at the map yourself if you want. It crashed opposite the Taco Loco on the west side of 809.
>>545421240>it crashed in front of a taco bell on highway 809Very well, I concede.
>>545411664nigga airline pilots use nicknames if necessary to make it clear over radio. if your names maydae your gonna fuckin change it
>>545420786>piece of shit radars in old learjetsDo you really need a radar to tell you not to fly into a storm?
They definitely fucked, the pilot and co-pilot
