Does pol seriously believe that voting somehow makes a difference?
no those billions spent on campaigns are fakeor nobody spent any moneyidk whatever it takes to make this theory workjust don't fuckin vote ok you're a poltard so you'll vote wrong, only based trannies who don't visit pol should votebut don't worry because it doesn't matter if all your enemies are voting and you aren'tyou couldn't have possibly affected your loss even if you triedgood goy
>>545435125if it didn't work, they wouldn't shill so hard
>>545435370>billions spent on campaigns are fakeyes, they literally are. when the Fed can just print money, anything donated to a political campaign is fake money
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>>545436057Except the Dems are decidedly anti Israel now while the Republicucks are for the Epstein class.
No, but I still do it because it doesn't hurt anything, lefty shill.
>>545435370This. Jews, oligarchs and corporations aren't going to spend a dime unless they absolutely need to. By the simple fact they do dump millions and collectively billions into the campaigns tells you voting does matter.
>>545435125It makes a difference in that it narrows down the fields of candidates so the people that rig our elections know who to focus on.
I mean it really doesnt. Everyone in the nation could collectively come together and agree that we arent supportive of war under any pretext and the cockmongling jew dicksuckers in congress would speedrun getting us into a war for kikes juat to spite us.Congress continually proves itself to be on the 20 side of 80/20 issues, no matter which side is examined.>stop all immigration and let's get on board with forced remigration"Erm, actually, we're gonna import MORE H1B's and amnesty every brownoid here, teehee. The holy jee dee pee demands it!"If you actually believe your representatives are there to represent your interests I have beach front property in Kansas for sale. Interested?
>>545435125it could, if the average person weren't a 60 IQ retard.
It must otherwise i wouldnt deal with what I do.
>>545435125Voting in itself isnt democracy. Thats the problem. It is a pillar of democracy but if people.just pull the lever on election day thats practically not being involved in politics at all.
Hmmm... apparently it does
>>545436169>>545435431The results don’t matter. The winners are chosen beforehand.What they want from you simply your consent. Your willing participation in their system where they have power over you.That’s why they shill so shard for voting. The actual candidates and details are insignificant. All they care and want from you is your express consent of participation in their system where they rule over you.
>>545435125Yes, snd I believe campaigns/statements like this just exist to take away your power. As the other anon pointed out, they wouldnt spend what they do (in the scale of billions) if they didnt think it mattered. They want you to think you have no power and are foolish to vote.
>>545436548Liberals shill just vote because they know most people are liberals. Its math. the higher the turnout the more votes they get.
>>545436119>Except the Dems are decidedly anti Israel nowlollmao evendo you see any Dems standing up to trump about the Iran war?
>>545436689Than why do they spend billions to beat candidates in their own primaries and still lose? Or did they do that for funnies and to waste money?
>>545435125Ya this is true. I'm just not gunna vote. My voice doesn't need to be hesmard whatsoever.
>>545436850Meant for>>545436548
>>545435125If it were important they wouldn't let you do it. Elections are mostly a dog and pony show to trick the public into being compliant. Thinking they can fix things if they just vote different next time. In reality both sides are about the same and anyone representing a legitimate threat to the system is weeded out early on. Nothing said in a campaign correlates to actually policy once in office, as has been studied and analyzed around the world. and that is just taking the political system at face value without any of the more plausible conspiracy theories.But the billions spent on campaigns are not just fake. It is also a way to launder and transfer money.
>>545436828Yes nigger? Living under a rock?
>>545436850Do you think spending the most money immediately gets you a win? You know money isn't real, right anon?
if voting doesnt matter then why all the funding?
>>545436850see>>545435580
>>545435431>if it didn't work, they wouldn't shill so hardThey shill so hard not because it changes the outcome but it makes people compliant to the current regime. They legitimately believe that for every election in the past 60 years about half the population supports the other side and that they can vote their way out of it. If they didn't do this people would protest, revolt, or stop showing up to work. It is just one colossal call to inaction.
>>545437014so what youre saying is this is a shitpost thread and you're mad you will never be american.
>>545436748It’s not real. It doesn’t matter who vote for what. It’s not real. The winners are chosen beforehand. They only want your participation. Their game was designed for them to win. If you play at all you lose. Only way to win is to not play. If you vote at all you lose. The sports team candidates they pick to pretend to run against each other is a scam. They already picked the winner years ago. It’s not real. The right wing left wing illusion is fake. Voting does nothing expect trick you into giving your consent for them to rule over you. The rest is simply theater as a means for that end. Don’t worry about others. Start worrying about yourself. You really don’t want them to have your consent for what they have planned.
>>545436119for the most milquetoast definition of anti israel imaginable. Perhaps sending only 2 billion dollars in place of 3. Fully 2/3 of them are directly on aipacs payroll. Just look at the voting record.
>>545436828Yes plenty of them
>>545436467https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TWH2tw2yyI
>>545435431Im just going to be rightfully critical of whatever pedophile monkey they dance in front of me.
>>545437083Here's hoping.
>>545437111>never use your voice goy. You have no power.
>>545435125Sadly. Enough people do. But they also took the vax, so.....
>>545436850Silly child. Still clinging to the fleeting remnant of childhood that democracy is real and your vote matters and you have a say in politics. The only thing you truly have a say in is whether or not you consent to participate in their elaborate scam. This is the only thing poltics wise that is entirely within your power to do. If you say no there’s nothing they can do about it. Choose wisely
>>545436119Take your booster shot
>>545437477Why feel the need to come onto 4chan /pol/ to not vote?If their votes never mattered to begin with. Surely you wouldn't waste your time convincing people that they don't?
>>545437369You have all the power in the world if you don’t vote. Voting is consent to give away your power. Voting is your express consent and desire for that candidate and his affiliates to rule over you. Do you really know who you’re voting for? Do you really know who these people are? What they do? Why give your consent for them to rule over you? If you don’t vote then you have not given consent for anyone to rule over you or have power over you then You keep all your power to yourself.
>>545437477What if they want you to believe voting is useless? What if they dont have the power they claim, but they do have the power to message "we control everything". If they did, they wouldnt need to make you feel demoralized, they wouldnt need theatrics they'd just shove their oder in your face. I think you've given up because you've become jaded in life and refuse to commit to things greater than yourself because you feel like a lack of control.
>>545436119>Except the Dems are decidedly anti Israel now
>>545437706Until whoever gets elected comes and rapes you and you cry out "B-but I didnt le vote!". No wonder we elect shitty candidates with amoeba level takes like this floating around.
>>545435125yea voting doesn't matterdon't do itdefinitely stay home. me? don't worry about it, stay home, I'll be back later
>>545437778This really is the funny part. I abstained this time because my vote doesn’t matter but also because libs think this will change shit when it absolutely won’t. Are they going to impeach trump? Sure. Are they going to stop the war with Iran? Hell no. Even obongo is out there saying we have to stop Iran from getting a nuke. Iran will just go from being a Republican war to a democrat war.
>>545437778They're split, but theyre clearly becoming the anti Israel party. In the lead up to a ton of dem primaries it was an issue of AIPQC/Anti Aipac influence. I think the longer this war goes on (which Trump has promised to do) the more of a "issue" (as in something ppl pay attention to, not that Im pro AIPAC) this will become in American elections over the next 1-2 years. I think this election is just the prelude to this trend and its proof.
>>545435125No>Think about it! Do you actually believe that public opinion influences the government?>...no...
>>545438018Nigger are you retarded? It was Obama that signed the nuclear treaty with Iran, even Tucker Carlson on NOR gave Obama a plus for this on fucking NPR. Re establishing relations with Iran and Cuba were two priorities of his admin (which Im sure you were too young to remember anyway)
>>545438155Voting is basically the only time and place we have where our public opinion actually influences politics. Casting a vote (even one that goes nowhere in a safe district) is more impactful thab a trillion 4chan/Twitter posts.
>>545438073>but theyre clearly becoming the anti Israel partygood goy
>>545438073whatever normie goy cattle think they are is one thing, but that has no bearing on what they in fact are. >>545438180you're retarded and illiterate. that was his point, even though obama did that and has this reputation he was still saying iran can't be allowed to have a nuke. the treaty was for peaceful nuclear energy. his point was that obama and trump are different strategies that both exist within a jewish matrix.
>>545438180NPR* interview linked below since OI know conceptually thats an insane thing to sayhttps://youtu.be/pHhJM3Fg9jw?is=XxdnDJkiyETFkInE
>>545435125no but one can still tell kikes which jew they like more
>>545437706While I support your ideals in principle you don't have to give consent. The people elected have control over systems that can make your life hell consent or no. Voting is the 'power' you have. Unfortunately it doesn't matter, so I don't do it either.When I told my brother he said "yeah not voting, that'll show em">show whoHe had no reply
>>545438275>Ill give up my rights and power voluntary! That puts me ahead of you sheep who want to make change in the world!>>545438291I think calling them different "strategies" is a bit of a misnomer. One invites Iran back into the world as an equal partner, the other one involves starting a retarded war. If you see these as the "same" option you've been one shot by propaganda so hard its not even funny.
>>545435125If you, as a Republican don't believe in voting, know this: liberals do. OPs post is proof. Tell liberals to cope and seethe by casting your vote.
>>545437706I'm sorry. Time for direct democracy then unc? Should we all vote on every matter and every decision to be made?
>>545438262I live in Illinois and I'm republican so mine kinda doesn't to be real. I was kinda just mgs2 memeing.Yet i don't think public opinion makes a big difference since nobody wants this war but we all know the dems will continue it. On smaller matters, yeah, a bit.
>>545435125If it doesn't make a difference, why risk not making a difference by not voting?
>>545438291Also in regards to your first comment, change is incremental. Americans didnt know why AIPAC or Israel are bad until it was shoved in their face. Is this good? No. But the change is starting. And I respect an anti aipac candidate more than a misanthrope on /pol/ who has given up and just circles the web with their "enlightened" opinion.
>>545437738THINK FOR A FUCKING SECONDThe turtle human who is effectively a weekend at bernies puppet. How DESPERATE WERE HIS FUCKING AIDS TO GET HIM TO VOTE "CORRECTLY" WHEN HIS BRAIN IS MADE OF SOUP
>>545436119>Dems are decidedly anti Israelroflmao
>>545436828To the point they tried to cut his nuts on his war powers nigger. The dems are in the middle of either a party split or an Esau gambit with outright antisemitic anti aipac candidates and that's a start. Cast a ballot then buy more bullets and beans, if its a waste of time your fat ass needed the fucking steps anyways
>>545438525I dont think the dems will. Supporting this war is effectively becoming political suicide, and once dem candidates that are against it start beating fence/pro war candidates, its going to shake the DNC more broadly. Watch special elections in the years to come, I think that will be the second "proof" (the first being the victory of antinwar/aipac candidates this election).
>>545435125The electoral system is as heavily interfered with as it is specifically because it IS the one weak point in the elites control over us and they have to mess with it as much as possible to keep power. If they were not afraid of it, they wouldn't spend so much money to influence the outcome or funding disinformation and demoralization campaigns your yourself to try and convince people not to exercise what limited power we do have over our politicians. Its not a magic wand, the people who vote today won't fix everything overnight, but to say that it makes no difference at all is just doomfaggotry masquerading as superiority.
>>545438464>Ill give up my rights and power voluntarylol what is this jeetlish
>>545438607Geriatrics exist and might be abused, so coying is useless? What kind of niggercope is this?
>>545438722>saar but now I working for durgasoft in US of A. I will working 120 hour weeks no extra pay.
>>545437833>>545437738>>545438411The scam is only works if it’s believable and if you need to deceive hundreds of millions of people it better be good. You’re seeing this from the wrong mindset you’re still operating from a delusion that politics is real. That voting changed anything. It’s theater. It’s all preplanned. The whole thing basically a ritual that hinges on society oscillating between left and right at specific intervals. With the people kept in perptual ideology war with their fellow citizen.Ancient Greece voting worked because they were a small homogenous ethnostate where every single person wanted only the best for the state.Ours is a corrupt farce designed to keep citizens who should be working together spending their time fighting other Americans in a neverending ideological war. While they, with your consent, fleece you blind.
>>545438805It is not about the geriatric. It is about the FERVANT attempts from the people AROUND HIM while he is soup brains to get him to vote "correctly"
>>545438722You have a right to vote, and it is your power over the government. Unless you run for office, the most "control" youre ever going to have over American politics are going to be elections. If you give up that right, you surrender your power. Ofc a nigger wouldn't understand that.
>>545435125>Man made systems are equal to natural systemsthe hubris of man never ceases to surprise me
>>545438846>Ancient Greece voting worked because they were a small homogenous ethnostate where every single person wanted only the best for the state.That is why they are still the seat of power in the world with their superior direct democracy ya?
>>545436271Thats because of campaign finance fuckery that went into overdrive after 2010 and the Citizens United decision, thats the point where our politics suddenly became turbo-fucked because congress started working directly for whoever had the most money to throw at them instead of their constituents.Its wild to remember that in 2008/2009, the republicans AGREED THAT GLOBAL WARMING WAS REAL, the only debate was what to do about it and how much we would let that affect the economy. Citizens United happens, and in less than a year of oil money dumping directly into their laps there was a mysterious and completely coincidental reversal of political opinion and suddenly all of the republicans refused to say that climate change was a realistic possibility, in many cases directly contradicting what they had personally said themselves before just 2 years prior. The fact that we desperately need election reform does not negate the fact that voting still matters, it just means that voting matters enough that we need to make sure that its being done without special interests sticking their dick in it.
>>545435431They shill it so we pretend it's real. Like wrestling
>>545438846Than select for better candidates. You dont have to vote for everyone, pick the people that clearly want to unite this country and work on practicable solutions. Don't support the pedophiles, conmen, and charlatans. If you have no state/national candidates, support someone local that you believe in. But dont give those pedophiles and conmen the easy victory they want by these demoralization schemes.
>>545438888These people understand what is happening. Low voter turnouts mean happy with status quo and lower probability of R wins. Higher voter turnouts typically lead to D wins. If you can just convince other people their vote doesn't matter. The set in stone retards who vote the same always towards Rs get them the win.
>>545438913Define a natural system. A system made by man is not natural?
>>545438931Is there a point to your post? 10 post and they’ve all just been nonsense with no point or purpose in anyway. Ok Greece isn’t the center of the world anymore so what. How does that counter anything I said. Your just talking just to talk at this point saying nothing like a woman
>>545439024They can't defeat the demoralization look at where we are
>>545438888I wasn't asking for an explainer, dalit, I was making fun of your brown ass
>>545439035>higher probability of R wins ***
>>545439024There is no better candidates. They’re all in on it. They don’t allow you to run or make it far if you’re not part of the club. Too late in the game for unknown variables and all that.
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>>545439147You're the one claiming representative democracy is le bad and that somehow direct democracy is somehow better.
>>545439147He has a pount that representative democracy still works, and can still work in the modern world. I know we talk about niggers and other subhumans being incapable of it, but in reality they do it make it work (Botswana, Singapore, ect ect). Just because we dont live in ancient Greece doesn't mean the principles of the west have to fail. Are we not the best and our systems the best proliferated? I think we still have power, and our power self evident.
>>545439212Yes. So people should just no longer vote. The voice of the individual is over. Give up your vote. But also. It is extremely important that when mitch mcconell goes to vote. He votes correctly. Because if he doesn't then it is bad.
>>545439024>Don't support the pedophiles, conmen, and charlatansSaying this while shilling for the dems? Now that's what I call chutzpah
>>545436548It's entirely this.
>>545435125nupol miggers do.
>>545439152>you support voting so you must be IndianId bet Im not only whiter than you, but my ancestors have been here longer. Go ahead talk to me about dalits and izzzat and tell me Im "indian". Sub 90 mongrolidic nigger.
>>545439392Then don't vote. Don't do anything. Everyone else will make every decision for you.
>>545439212There are candidates running rn, who had to beat their own party, and their own party endorsing the other party/guy. If that doesn't say anything to you, I dont know what will.>>545439345I dont like either side which means I want to support people that both sides cast away/turn on. Any candidate that is fighting their own party is a good starting point. Or did you think I like nigger Hakeem?
>>545439392Uh oh jeet meltybtw my family has been here since the 1600s so lower your tone
>>545439510Waiting on a reply. My grandmother got denied from the daughter's of he revolution (because we fought for the crown). Im sure youll be able to prove youre white though, right?
>>545439505>Any candidate that is fighting their own party is a good starting pointlol that was how Obama was sold to the public and welp
>>545436214It makes a difference in that it legitimizes the pre-selected choices presented to you as your democratic exercise of free self-determination.Six years after I stopped voooting, I've gotten dozens (around 50 to 100) of letters and spam texts from thr State registrar, politicians, and NGOs pleading and obliquely *threatening* me ("your vote is secret but your refusal to vote is public record") to re-engage the good goy behavior of voooting.If it weren't for their thinly veiled threats, I might have reconsidered participation. But they slipped and showed their Semitism, and my non-compliance is now and forever set like concrete.
>>545439676Where's your white hand? Or are you a sub 90 nigger? Perhaps using a VPN?
If voting didn't make a difference, Israel and the 1% class wouldn't spend billions of dollars to influence and secure them in their favor
>>545439232Stfu Rajesh unless you have something to actually contribute. Literally just posting bullshit fishing for a pointless meaningless argument. If you lost izzat from our interaction then that’s your problem.
More generally, after the deluge of retardation we've seen out of the elite class this year, theyre absolute failure to function as a cohesive unit, would you believe these people are capable of manufacturing anything? Elon was a trillionaire forbwhat? 5 minutes? I can see everything as a docu shows these people aren't serious. They're IDIOTS. Half the time they cant even manage their own stocks correctly, much less orchestrate and rig power against you. These people are fools and you shouldn't be afraid of them, or see them as masterminds:Theyre people. Iioditic, flawed, and fallible people.
>>545439759>he fledThis a reminder that literally only niggers think you shouldn't vote
>>545439505>There are candidates running rn, who had to beat their own party, and their own party endorsing the other party/guy. If that doesn't say anything to you, I dont know what will.Anon, there is no point trying to convince them. They are arguing in bad faith, and there is no amount of evidence you can provide to them that they won't simply dismiss as 'sufficiently convincing theater'.
>>545439766Yes and they made a big show of it.>its le Russians >they’re trying to steal the election from us!!!>give us more money and support they’re trying to steal the election!!!Israel/russia/china spending money to influence elections and then the media makes a big show about it. If it was real they would not release that information. If Russia could influence elections that makes America look incompetent. They would never admit that if it was real. The supposedly most holy and sacred of American rights being corrupted by foreign influence so easily. Utterly embarrassing and a loss of conficnede in the highest of American institutions.It’s story they use for propaganda.
>>545439642>we fought for the crownlmao >>545439759here you go buddy now what>>545440053>samefaggingshame shame
>>545440081You're using an unrelated instance of some entry-level citizen candidate for dog-catcher as proof that national leadership elections are real.Just look at yourself.
>>545440621Thats interesting, I don't remember doing that. Could you quote where in my post you think I said that?
>>545440528Bros ancient and fat. So tubby you had to waddle to the bathroom and waddle back for the Pic
>>545438718I would give credit where it's due if they did anon.
>>545439505Have you not seen the numerous pieces of media demonstrating how the lamest, most milquetoast faggots or most corrupted degens are the only ones capable of rising to the top of american politics? They are NOT good candidates.
>>545439642The DAR is a geneology hobby group, like battlefield re-enactors except little old ladies going through old church records. Their flavor of choice is "bluecoats," not "redcoats." They don't owe your family anything, and are fully justified denying membership to entitled butthurt faggots like you.
>>545435370Voting is real in the sense that you do decide who your ruler is. Jewish factions compete with each other for power and control. Voting is fake when it comes to actually determining policy, as both sides serve the same masters and only differ on small wedge issues. So no, voting does not matter unless you stand to directly profit from it.
>>545436169They spend money because they are competing with each other to be at the top of the grift, but the masters and the outcome are the same no matter which candidate wins
>>545439937>If I call the other a SAAR I do not have to engage.
>>545435370>>545436169who wins determines whose friends get the money being printed. it's business. neither side will improve the country, they just want their friends to be rich.
>>545441309YES EXACTLY. I REFUSE TO VOTE.I WILL NEVER VOTE!!!!!
>>545441470Have fun vooting today, things will be different this time!
>>545440729You replied:>there is no amount of evidence you can provide to them that they won't simply dismisto a guy who was claiming that>There are candidates running rn, who had to beat their own partyproves the system works as advertised.That "there are candidates" at the municipal level does not prove national elections are real.
>>545435125nigger
>>545435125Why do election committees spend billions on convincing voters to vote?
>>545441771Because they want to be the ones in control, not because they do anything drastically different from the other candidates. They all serve the same private interests, and the few that don't quickly get absorbed, compromised or taken out.
>>545435125>Does the White Nationalist Fascist Nazi board believe in Judeo Liberal Democracy?
>>545435125If voting doesn't matter why is it only ever republicans who ruin the economy and democrats who fix it?
>>545441571Yes this is true. It is why so many dollars go into campaigns. Because there is no reason to!
>>545439744Vooooooooooooooting isn't about "winning" (no matter which front gets elected, ((they)) win), it's about compelling you to de facto confer legitimacy onto a stolen and fake-and gay system.If you're a vote-boomer, you can lose and lose and lose and lose and lose, you can vent frustration with the outcomes and the system, but if you vooooooooote you've basically given the system a thumbs up to keep on existing, and the system is Jewish.That's why all the Cuckservatives have nothing better than to tell us to "vote harder", even though they have no answer for the Jewish system which buys out or neutralizes every politician and party that threatens them, that ignores the demographic realities which make White and especially male votes essentially worthless.It's why they have no answer for how even winning one election cycle and 'playing by the rules' within the system cannot fundamentally achieve any lasting victory.The only winning move is not to play. And Cuntservatives chimp out at the mere suggestion that right wing Whites can just choose to not legitimize the system. The easiest and quickest way to bring down the system is to abandon it. Engagement with a system that is failing you and you oppose is to endorse the very system. Voooooting harder is a pure oxymoron. A paradox. Hitler to be frank got lucky. The Jews under-estimated him until it was too late, and Germany at the time wasn't getting flooded with bioweaponry to poison the political well.If Whites in critical mass just chose to separate from the stolen Jew system and simply pursue our own path, the Jewish system would rapidly collapse. The only real threat is to defend against Semitic entryism. When the system collapses Whites have to take a zero tolerance approach to Jews and anti-White anything.
>>545436119>the Dems are decidedly anti Israel now>their Senate leader is a lliteral Jewish ZionistImagine being this mindraped
>>545435125Nah, I'm way too radicalized and demoralized to vote in the mid-terms. I'm too sure that both parties are traitors who hate white men so no matter who wins I'll be trapped in hell as I have been for decades. Vote for Demon A or Demon B to torture you for the next 4 years. Vote which party gives your rights and your life away for the benefit of Israel and the Epstein satanists who rape and eat babies like ghoulish wendigos.
>>545436142Oh sweetie this is a right wing preemptive cope thread.
>>545436397Semantics don't make you clever or smart
Voting is for the young who think that the system is real and that it can work. When you are young and idealistic you will vote with empathy and liberalism and your leaders will be evil cunts who hate you. And then you'll get old and bitter and conservative and your leaders will be evil cunts who hate you. As a white person you don't get to have a country that belongs to you and you don't get access to jobs or money or sexual reproduction. We're second class citizen slaves who only exist to be taxed and exploited so that evil jews can be rich and have many jewish kids who don't have to work or pay for health care. Everything in this life is designed to harm white men and to enrich jewish women and so there really isn't any point to anything. There is no point to existing. We should go into the West and disappear like the elves and then the orcs can have this hell world.
>>545443211is that what you've been told?
>>545436119newfaggot
>>545443562Then why is the largest voting bloc the old? Or are you saying as people get older. They stop voting?
>>545442800This. It’s as I’ve been saying. We’ve been voting for how long now and what has changed? Still the same elites in charge. Society still heading to shit. Only thing that did change was the face of the establishment. Conveniently always shifting back and forth between left and right at timely invervals. Always shifting every 1 or 2 presidents. The last time a party got three presidents in a row was republicans in the 1920s. It’s been hundreds of years now and society is still going to shit let’s just keep voting it’ll surely work this time. Just say no. I do not consent to your game I am my own master. >>545443211Yes quite the conundrum. Why do they spend so much to influence if it’s rigged from the start? Well first do you have access to their fincial records? Do you know they spent money or did they just say they did? Do you know if it was their money or blackrocks money? I guess the best way to explain this is this. There are levels. While major elections like presidency are chosen by the true elites beforehand. Within the framework of the system within the framework of “the game” the players, the political parties, are allowed a sort of leeway to play the game their own way. That is they are allowed to use the game to collect and farm votes for themslevs . And vote/consent is power. They use this as an opportunity to get people to cast their vote for themslevs for their party and this is turn equates to power and influence down the road. It’s like an investment. Also keeping the game/scam running is of upmost priority for the elite. So they had out money for the parties to play with to keep it going. Cast your vote. Maybe right side wins maybe left side wins eitherway the man behind the throne gets what he wants.
My not voting is a vote of no-confidence in the corrupt system. If our Democratic republic in really just an oligarchy, and I'm not a rich man, then there is no value in my participation in the political system. I don't have the wealth to actually affect the political system in order to gain the things that I want.If you want to stop being exploited by the system then you have to destroy it.
>>545443502where is the lie? the average citizen knows about as much about the government that rules them as the average religious understands their holy book. Voting with your wallet is a similar situation, most consumers know barely anything about anything. Participation in the modern world is unbelievably convenient, but more complex than ever
>>545435125If it doesn't then why do you care if I vote?
>>545436548Whether you vote or not doesn't affect your consenting to the system, nor it's ability to impose laws on you. It's not like if you don't vote suddenly you're free from taxes or laws. If they're going to affect you either way, you should at least try to influence them.
>>545435370Kek you get 2 choices and they are bought funded by the same people retardation
>>545445583I would counter your argument with a moral one. If you vote for a candidate and that candidate starts WW3, then would you feel guilty? And if you didn't vote, would you feel innocent?
>>545445276You weren't supposed to point that out
>>545445911Technically I'd be partially culpable for WW3, yes. Realistically, even though my state voted for Kamala, I, who voted for Trump, am in a very small way morally responsible for his mistakes. I justify it with the simple logic that "at the end of the day myself and my family are my top priority; if others have to suffer to give me more resources, that is unfortunate but necessary."
>>545435125Nope, that's why the outreach has always been about shaping society's opinions.
>>545436548ok, democraps have my permission to punish republifats, hence my vote.Thank you for stating the obvious.>>545435125ok, if not then you won't mind if I vote straight blue then.
>>545438464>Ill give up my rights and power voluntary!freedom means being able to choose not to do things. exercise your freedom by choosing not to vote.
>>545436313this. I do it because it's just giving them the box if we don't, but there's only one true way out of this, and it isn't voting. that's what got us here
>>545445097This only makes sense if you were scratching your ballot.
Da comrade, completely pointless except for Trump
>>545435125No I don't.
/pol/ got their favorite Zionist elected in 24 for a second time. Voting clearly works.
>>545446514>>545445583You misunderstand what the consent is actually for.If you did you would grieve for your wasted time and life. If you understood you would never stopping crying for injustice done to us. The injustice allowed to continue because they have the majority consent.
>>545443211>Having to spend monopoly money to maintain a system is proof it isn't fake and gayAmerican education at its finest.
>>545447364Fuckign autocorrect making me sound like an esl jeet. Wtf.
>>545435125Modern representative democracy only exist to shift accountability from the cabalist political elite to the voter. It's the only reason it has been allowed to exist this far. The elected representatives just go 'whoopsie uwu ^_^, you voted for me, teehee'. There is no better form of government for the established political elite. And if someone somehow is held accountable, they already have a replacement, and the disposed official is guaranteed work in a foreign policy think tank like the CFR or as a lobbyist for the MIC. The US House Chamber and the EU parliament should have a guillotine present and a large staged picture of the Romanovs, just as a reminder that it's not only their life at stake, but their whole bloodline, would they act against the interest of the populace they represent.>inb4 who's the arbiter of wrong doingSomething really positive about Russia and other states of its kind, is that there's no question about who's ultimately accountable. Sure there's a hierarchy, but if shit turns real sour, at least you can point a finger in the right direction and ultimately end or depose the principal.
>>545436828Don't care. Not voting to make pedophile zionist bankers and landlords richer. Accelerate. #BlueNoMatterWho
>>545435125DAILY REMINDER. Foreign glowniggers like OP , are trying to DEMORALIZE you from going out today , and casting your vote for Repulicans.>this is the only way Democrats have in HELL to win, >if they Demoralize enough Republicans to not vote today.You ALL MUST Vote Democrats out, TODAY. Go vote RED today, NOW.
>>545449420Democracy is a sham, everyone should read Mein Kampf's chapter on the subject.
>>545436119Strange VPN faggot here. All jews live in 3 blue states, NJ, NY and California, and they ALL VOTE Democrat. Jews are Literally Democrats largest voting block, after of nigger women. These VPN faggots are trying to mass demoralize you. GO VOTE RED, TODAY.
>>545436828They might be anti-israel, but they no doubt have good things to say about the Jewish people. Take any of those leftists and they will say they have no problem with Jews, just the Israeli government
>>545436689Those billions are spent on companies and marketing campaigns that let them launder it through those businesses tax free. It's all fake and gay
>>545436958This
>>545443211>the money is fake and gay and the (((Fed))) can print as much as they needYawn
>>545438582>Spend time, money(gas) to go vote>Don't do thatWhat an argument
>>545436548>That’s why they shill so shard for voting. The actual candidates and details are insignificantThe candidates go to Israel to get trained up. Prior to being promoted by the jewish owned media as the next great political hope.What is needed:>Food>Water>SurvivalThe government offers none of these things. It is a parasite that regulates, skims money off of the time and sends people to meaningless wars. We need a government like we need a hole in the head.
>>545442544You can't ask questions about platos cave, if you're still in it(you are)
>>545445276Your vote is a humiliation ritual, you're giving consent and credibility to the lie
>>545435125No but it will deprive republicuck lawmakers of their livelihood
>>545443502>>545443468Holy kek. You wouldn’t know, trust me.
>>545436689>They want you to think you have no power and are foolish to vote.You do have no power and you are foolish to vote.What the fuck is being voted for?>Digital prison>Third world immigration legally vs illegally>Tax extortion>Wars in other continents instead of protecting our own borders>Foreign aid>Lies>GaslightingWe need a government why?!
>>545436119they hated him because he spoke the truth
>>545452901Never post again
>>545445276The less people vote, the more people no longer believe in the legitimacy of the current government. There will never be an elected official who cleans out the imported third world UNTIL the government itself is forced to change one way or another. I'm not spelling the rest out for you, iykyk
>>545452590Good summary
>>545435125I cast ballots because I don't want them casting my ballot for me (which they have proven they do)
>>545435370The ads are a humiliation ritual for the goy
>>545435125I just voted for TBD TND and TTD
>>545435125I don't vote.
>>545435125No, it's why I'm staying home today, fuck going out in the rain to vote for jewish puppets or commie queers.
>>545455138And TJD which was already covered by TBD but I just wanted to let you know.
>>545435370>your enemies are votinguseful idiot vaxxed “voters” don’t matter enough to be my enemy
Most of /pol/ has no inner dialogue and only responds to whatever stimuli is in front of them.If you say>heh, he doesn't know voting is pointlessThey won't say>Hey! It's not pointless! I am helping my team win and own the libs!Because they just received stimuli that says voting is for chumps basically.However, 5 mins later, they could receive another stimuli, for example mass media saying>if you don't vote for conservatives, this country is over! they're going to take over!>you have to VOTE!! we can win this!Then in that moment, they would of course say that they will vote very hard and own the libs and make them cry.All while electricity, gas, groceries and housing are constantly at all time high prices and the civilization their parents grew up in crumbles around them. Epstein was right about goycattle.
>>545435370You're so fucking stupid kek.Elections matter that's obvious. That's how boomers steal money from younger workers. That's why they spend money on elections too. Politicians are literally professionals of campaigning too.Another aspect of elections is that regardless of the result, they legitimize the regime>This system represents the people, because people freely choose their representatives. If you dislike anything about the regime, change it by participating in it.And if most people participate in elections, it means people agree with that and support them.I disagree with the justification for democracy, though. Because an alarming amount of people are paid for their vote. And another big amount of people is too retarded to meaningfully make a choice.I could still participate and say>oh well, I am nothing compared to the millions of people who are paid part of my tax money to vote, or the millions who vote based on stimuli from mass media, but I'll still participate and make a tiny difference!But I don't want to because I hate them and I'd rather boycott and let things go to shit, unless conservatives somehow figure out that young local working men matter and should have access to a decent life.There's other valid opinions and also people from all walks of life on /pol/. Maybe you're a young man and voting for the right, but your life is easier and the status quo unironically works for you. But in general I'd say any young man voting for conservatives and happy to win the latest election and own the libs is goycattle without an inner dialogue.
