>MI5 will not face contempt of court charges despite admitting its evidence was a liehttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq5yn64wn2y7o>Jail threat if you insist a human can't be a cat: Absurdity of Labour's 'unworkable' gay and trans Billhttps://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16259597/Labours-new-law-banning-conversion-therapy-make-illegal-tell-identifies-catgender-human-report-warns.html>Horror map shows the 34 most dangerous UK towns and cities to avoid in WW3https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2262931/34-most-dangerous-uk-towns-cities-ww3>Celebrity accused of sex abuse loses battle to keep name secrethttps://archive.ph/L0WTA>Freezers of UK meat suppliers heat up after cyber-attacks in Europehttps://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/nov/03/uk-meat-processing-firms-fridges-heat-up-cyber-attacks>A third of UK workers don’t think their job is interestinghttps://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/job-satisfaction-record-low-british-social-attitudes-b3078275.html>King stops short of offering formal apology over transatlantic slave tradehttps://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/charles-ii-king-andy-burnham-the-king-commonwealth-b1303430.html>Mahmood has 'full confidence' in IOPC despite scrutiny over Henry Nowak murder casehttps://www.itv.com/news/2026-11-03/mahmood-has-full-confidence-in-iopc-despite-scrutiny-over-henry-nowak-case
Just farted in this thread.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=astISOttCQ0They don't make 'em like they used to
What's that smell?
>>545456077fucksake man we literally just got herecan't take you anywhere
Sucking a golf ball
>>545456116josh's decaying corpse?
>>545456218Thought hosepipes were banned.
> NEW: Andy Burnham and Anthony Albanese are set to discuss increasing restrictions on British backpackers using Working Holiday Visas in Australia>Proposals include removing an exemption that means Brits don’t have to do rural work to extend their visa as well as the introduction of a migration cap
>>545456297Not for sucking golf balls
>>545456218you should put it up your bum
>open thread>get a whiff of poo>see >>545456077Wtf
might have a double cherry magnum
apologise>OSBOURN, ANTIGUA AND BARBUDA - NOVEMBER 3: Antigua and Barbuda's Prime Minister Gaston Browne chairs the first executives session of the Commonwealth Heads of Government Meeting on November 3, 2026 in Osbourn, Antigua and Barbuda. Prime Minister Andy Burnham is attending the 2026 Commonwealth Heads of Government Meeting (CHOGM), making headlines for shifting the UK government's stance on historical slavery by signalling he is open to a formal apology. (Photo by Kin Cheung-WPA Pool/Getty Images)
I did a slient fart once and this girl in my office said "what smells so good I want some"
Must be Russia doing all this fridge hacking and flight bomb threat stuff. Sick of it.
>>545456428He needs to suck it up the hosepipe first.
>>545456661ewwomen are like that though tbf
>>545456661women love it when things smell fucking terribletheir hormones make them dirty
>>545456748Why don't women like jeets then, checkmate chinkfucker
>>545456837turmeric
>>545456678did u see the drones at the arsenal game the other dayclassic "triangle" pattern and everythingit makes a lot of sense to me that seemingly impoverished sanctioned countries with a population of disenchanted, talented, hip young people would have hacking departments to turn to because it's clandestine, cheap to fund, and fulfills party goals
https://goyimx.com/newsnoteworthy/status/2116970924608258165>BREAKING: Plane crashes in Palm Beach. County, Florida; fire and debris field seen.>The plane type or any casualties are unknown at this time.Um, I don't think it's 56% anymore
>>545457062>Once is happenstance.>Twice is coincidence.>Three times is Affirmative Action.
>layoffs announced at our place today>stil didn't get cut and get my pay off>didn't even entertain anyone volunteering who wasn't>the toil never endssick of it
>>545453671>I lift for pussyGenuinely the worst reason to ever work out. Women don't give a shit. Work out for the upcoming racewar with the blacks like John Kiriakou's joke.
>>545457285IktfbA redundancy package right now would be nice.
>>545457285I have a really abstract skill set and any timeline where I "make it" will be a moonshot because of the immense mental issues I have so you know what, it probably doesn't sound like much when you're dooming out about being stuck in the life butat least you're fucking employableit's easier to get a new job if you already have onethink about that
>>545456899No but I heard about some drones at Jersey airport interfering with air traffic.
https://x.com/BrajonBr0ndo/status/2117327712658612656>Some people are here for other stuff, are you talking about my.. my feet? *shows foot* my toes? my feet? you talking bout my lil teeny tiny toes? Ya fackin' freaks? Anyways. Thank you, thank you thankyouthankyou.
>>545457525yeah it happened around the same dayhttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/eEkRdjZWhnk
>>545456615stick it up your arse
>>545457583If someone told me to show my feet on live stream I'd turn 360 degrees and walk away.
>>545456083I wish I never took the bait, even though you posted a screenshot of what it was
Uno Falklands por favour
lights a flickeringwhere's gridwatcher anon
>>545457810if i had like 60 grand cushion i'd hire a personal prostitute to act like a tradwife for brit/polas it happens i've got about 80p
>>545457441the job isn't that bad, but i realise i've been coasting for a while now, but also have too much banked to leave without it>>545457471i know what you mean anon, i would probably struggle to get another for similar reasons
>>545457840ok big guy, what would you have posted instead?
>The care worker sector has become an issue because the British women who should be doing those jobs became MPs, civil servants, university lecturers and administrators, journalists, HR bosses etc… instead due to the 2010s feminist hysteria.>There’s a reason Angela Rayner was calling for Boriswavers to stay. Because that’s her level of employment in a meritocracy. If the public and university sector were made fit for purpose, the resulting mass unemployment of British women would fill all care worker vacancies.Probably above her skill ceiling, she's town bike tier.
>>545457977I can't believe this is how it endsdying of tuberculosis on my floor in the dark, unable to call an ambulance or seek medical attention, cat sitting on my face entirely indifferent to my plightI never got to play GTA VIin about three days my cat is going to have to eat me to stay alive
>>545457964Los Malvinas gag on my penis
>>545457997Sounds tragic to be honest. I can imagine the obsession over "housewife lass".
image of Kai Stephens immediately after his release from an NRP political prison.Horrifying
>>545458152>cat sitting on my facedon't worry thats illegal now, the cops will be round shortly
Did we ever even leave the EU?
wot youtube channel should i watch while eating din dins
>>545458272just looks like he's been on the kenny
>>545458255there was a prossy who used to post here a few years agoi think people named her cokewhore or something
>>545458035I know it's this kind of fairytale outlook on life which gives me unrealistic expectations but it's like a girlfriend, it's easier to get another one when you already have oneit shows pre-existing value, and ambition, and it's through things like this that theoretically you find jobs you enjoyit might be kind of an old-fashioned notion but idk maybe whatever you have just isn't your callingsorry sometimes I like to pretend I'm art bell in brit/pol/ and I'm fucking whacked out, I think I have a feverusually I do this "call in, tell us about it" shit when it's way later at night
>>545458336Hell on Earth are good ladsit's like that feeling of going on random missions with your mates and camping out as a teenager, but bottled up and sold as consumable contentI'd recommed the video where they do up a limo and stealth camp in Scarborough because it's got fucking great cinematography
Farage should do what's best for the country and retire.Reform can't and won't winhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiJb6xbnNVA
>>545458336depends wot ur eating
>>545458601he looks like if he wasn't an mp he would be a copper nabbing people for the pettiest of shit
>>545458421you manifest your own reality anon>maybe whatever you have just isn't your callingi know for sure it isn't, i just want to live in a remote cabin/shack, kind of like this guyi'm doing my researchhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFBUSsm5-9k
>>545456077You bastard.
https://goyimx.com/AbsoluteMeasure/status/2117631303017185760#m>There was a time when I thought the absurdity of this charade would become so obvious the whole thing would just collapse under the weight of its own contradictions. Now I’m not so sure. This is just going to go on and on and on, lie after half-truth after misrepresentation.>Rupert Lowe is basically the soft right figure many in Restore complain about Nigel Farage being. Entire impression of Restore being hard right seems down to Downes and whoever is running Lowe's account on here.
>>545456678The bomb threats are revenge for Ukraine closing Moscow airports by flying drones over them attached to balloons. Russians are seething they can't fly anywhere. The fact Russia is reduced to phoning in bomb threats like a dissafected teenager speaks volumes. Weak.
>>545458770>i'm doing my researchu put up with whatever u gotta put up withI've got faith in you don't put up in something you don't like doing thoughgood jobs do exist and you're closer to them for having a bad job than I am for having none
>>545458601Just saw a reform lad being fond for loads of kiddy rape. Won't be voting for them.
>>545456619Dat chairperson looks like a discount Hitler
>>545458565>Hell on EarthBASED have watched them every SUnday for the last few years
>>545458874>>545458601The British 'right wing' today is just two camps of neocons, sniping at each other like teenage girls about how the other lot aren't REAL rightists, while tactfully avoiding stating their own positions because they know they're also not especially hardline on anything and will always concede to the left under the slightest bit of pressure. Incredibly gay, and when they fail they'll never even consider that it's their own fault for being boring, softheaded cunts.
>>545458874https://goyimx.com/RupertLowe10/status/2117647757749919820#mhe's gone fucking nuts
both today>Alton Towers closes World of David Walliamshttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx8dznljndyzo>Celebrity loses injunction bid but will stay anonymous pending appealhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cqglwjdgg045o
>>545459247yeah the councillor george madgwickalso getting hope not hate to vet candidates didn't work did it...or are hope not hate not bothered about nonces?
>>545455955>MI5 will not face contempt of court charges Limited hangout
>>545455955evenin RICU glowies.Busy week next week! You'll see.
>>545458336Podcast of the Lotus Eaters?
>>545459398I caught them as they were replacing their third testicle for that shrinkwrap tent and was like yeah okay...they came back to me eventually though and I realised everything else they do are like these perfect little mini-adventures, just like you used to have, right down to the utterly dreadful cooking and dubious alcoholic beverages
Anyone else notice that all public speeches from Rupert Lowe he sticks to old boomer tory rhetoric about le deficit and wasting spending, but never seems to mirror the rhetoric he allegedly posts online. A massive disconnect between the two.
>>545459973He's trying to enjoy his meal, not die from cringe
>unelected PM with no mandate who campaigned in Makerfield to not rejoin the EU is rejoining the EU nowWhy do westerners pretend democracy is a good thing?
>>545457285Do you get an enhanced redundancy package in your contract? If you don't the statutory is shit, just a week a year
>>545455955>>Horror map shows the 34 most dangerous UK towns and cities to avoid in WW3Lol. She did the little dance.I'm sure iron do... Britannia Shield™ is 100% tested, verified and certified for intercepting ICBMs and hypersonic missiles. Probably comes with a nice little warranty incase it fails and all.
>>545459538It’s John craven
Having a double nigger magnum
>>545460052>Anon learns what a PR team is
>>545460092There's no money for a "shield", we have 1 semo working warship, and even that has only half its compliment of weapon systems (3 not 6 as it was supposed to have).The nukes havent worked since 2012 and the new nukes are on hold, billions upon billions have been pissed up the wall.The Ajax tank thing is still born, defeated by a $300 dolla drone. Totally worthless.
>>545460092It will let ANY Israeli sanctioned missile through though.
>>545460190a double mandingo
>>545459985>replacing their third testicleAL? lmaoYeah it's a really comfy channel. Props to them for putting out a vid every week doing what they do. Loved their older Urbex vids, and some of the mines etc they went down were sketchy as fuck, especially with 0 safety gear. LOved the one where they camped on the beached ship just to see Norton suffer, think that's their most popular vid 2bh.That said, Razors a good lad and fits in really well.
>>545460190Does it taste of golf balls?
>>545460324That's not so bad, just avoid children's hospitals and you'll be fine
So which celeb is currently in the hospital for the big sad?People were saying David Wallams in the last thread, but hasn't he already been exposed as a sex pest? Not much point in an injunction when the horse has already bolted
>>545460081The Brexit referendum was a real eye-opener and blackpill about just how many liars exist in this country. Some of the remainer arguments at the time were genuinely unhinged and demented:>Only 20% actually voted for brexit because it didn't include people who didn't vote, prisoners and children>The referendum was only advisory, therefore we should ignore it>Also we need another referendum to confirm it>But not an election that doesn't count for some reason>We didn't have all the facts>Russia hacked the referendum but I have zero evidence for it>Politicians don't need to listen to their constituents because we live in a representative democracy and we give them the power to represent our interests not an advisory vote>#PeoplesVoteIt was actually infuriating I felt like i was going to have a cardiac arrest for like 4 years
>>545460375Razor is the May
>>545460190>You enjoying a magnum
>>545460085yeah, will be about 11 months all in plus pro-rate bonus and any ununsed holiday (always carry over 5 days)
>>545460436Problem is British people are just cattle. Slave like people who never protest. We're similar to Russians in that regard.
>>545458336clews obviouslyhttps://rumble.com/v7htebo-hidden-in-plain-sight.html
>>545460378Balls never taste great
>British troops will be allowed to fire back at Russian forces if attacked in mission
https://goyimx.com/Tofffu110634/status/2117429354363830347#m>Mate, do you seriously think anyone would come to the UK for GCSE or A-levels without the 10 year long residence route? Your international tuition fees are ridiculously high. Most parents are willing to pay because of the prospect of ILR after ten years.>The UK offers the worst value for money for international students. Poor education, ridiculously high fees. Without the 10-year ILR route, many of us wouldn’t have come. If a policy offers something after 10 years, that’s a promise people build their lives around.Seeing crying thirdies is always funhttps://goyimx.com/Tofffu110634/status/2117565543083589849#m>Your government promised us PR after ten years. Many of us came to the UK because of that promise. Now, just as we’re reaching ten years, you want to break it after taking our money. I’m happy to leave, but give me back the extra tuition fees I paid as an international student.>You didn't sign a contract with the Government. You applied for a visa. The wording would have been something generic like 'you may be able to settle after x number of years, subject to eligibility criteria and the immigration rules'. That is not a promise. You are constructing a fairness argument that has never applied under British law. Tax, planning and regulatory rules change all the time, there is no reason immigration rules should be any different.>You’re confusing legality with fairness. Changing the rules halfway through someone’s 10-year journey and hiding behind “no contract” is pathetic. Maybe learn the difference before lecturing others about British law.Doubly funny as the guy is Chinese (le based minority?????) who infamously have no conception of fairness, which tbf is solely an Anglo concept.
>>545460796you got the son staying
>>545460796i like sweet and sour chicken balls
>>545460919lolthank you for saying the punchline I thought of but would not say
I got that stank
>>545458272He's in a K-hole right now, but in 10 the speed'll kick in. Can of coke and a ciggy, he'll be right as rain.
>>545460919Naah - just me.. and the cat
>>545460081>PM with no mandatethe Prime Minister gets his mandate from the House of Commons, the government gets their mandate from the people. i agree that he has no mandate for the eu shit because it wasn't in the womanifesto. but there is a difference between the PM and the government.it's the same whenever a new PM is invited to be PM and people say there should be a GE because the PM doesn't have a mandate, but the HoC gave him/her the mandate by indicating the PM has a majority of support in the HoC. the King asking the person to be PM is technically the mandate to be PM. the results of the GE are irrelevant, only the will of the people in the HoC. if you or i got the majority of MPs to support me or you being PM we'd have a mandate even though we aren't MPs.
>>545461018He’s probably got the dildo in the dishwasher
>>545460886Ruskies need to alpha strike them so they can't respond.
>>545461065these assholes gave me a line of k on halloween and I only asked for a tiny one, dude gave me a gigantic fucking line and then I had to like show updropped me like a rock and then I sat in a corner having a conversation with the universe like danny dyer in human traffic while everybody slowly lefteventually they walked me halfway home, good lads really
which one of us was it?
>>545461231what is the comedown like? i don't know if i could be bothered with it if i was offered.
>>545461234PIPmogs shouldn't be allowed a passport. being a spazz is no defence.
>Without international students, many UK universities would go bankrupt. Mine has already sold a building due to falling enrolment. Yet you blame the very people funding your education sector and economy for ruining your country.>Good. Fuck off.>Ppl like you are the real burden on this country. You’re the reason the West failing.
>>545461161Do you own a snorkel jacket?
>>545461005What about sweet n sour ball gags?
>>545461231danny dyer doesn't have a conversation with the universe in human traffic
>>545461216
>>545461377Another brilliant idea for the brilliant ideas list:Fizzy gravyIncel fortune cookiesDonkey dentistApu (henry) hooverLego napoleon movieBoots home euthanasia kitSkagvent calendarCowboy themed italian restaurantContactless card 2p machinesTransparent Burqa for non-muslimsPhilip Schofield Halloween maskShower bedsDeliveroo pints in glassesPockets for cats (kitpock)Bic pen sharpenersVodka infused spamMigrant hotel management video gameTennis rackets for grenadesEastern themed gay nightclub, the sultan of brooneyeValentines meals for oneOrdnance survey globesKippah with hair on for secret jewsIced porridgeVelcro toilet seats for astronautsMonopoly migrant editionSycamore gap plastic sex arseStaberdashery, Roadmen One Stop ShopSteel toe socksBlackout windowsTapas for catsSweet and sour ball gags
>>545461203Of course - how do you clean yours?
I'm built weird, I'm skinny and I've got long arms and long legs and long fingers
>>545458874>goyimx>Raw Egg Zionist
>>545461307with ketamine it's like a reverse comedownyou're like "oh god what the fuck have I done to myself" and playing "marco polo" with the universe, somewhere between life and death, probably seeing some weird panoramic shit, and then you sober up and you're like thank god, I'm never doing that again
>>545461364>snorkel jacketOf course - mad for Oasis me
>>545461234>I got tricked, they told me I'd get through no problem and make lots of money but instead I got arrested and sent to prison in turkey
>>545461466Hiya.
>>545461164>he has a mandate because technically this gibberish nonsenseShut the fuck up you pathetic cunt. He didn't even stand on the 2024 Labour manifesto. I don't need be told some garbage technicalities. It's all a sham.
>>545460092Britannia shield will likely be built around the fp-7 Freya missile being developed by Ukraine and partners. They've got quite a bit of experience in this field. It will be fine.
>>545458601@Grok is it a good idea to go on the record calling a bunch of people incompetent dishonest retards then give them all senior positions in my party??
https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn02784/>UK GDP in Q2 2026 was 6.2% above its pre-pandemic level of Q4 2019. This compares with Eurozone GDP being 7.8% higherMaybe brexit was a mistake
>>545460302>we have 1 semo working warshipLiar. We have far more than that. Why do you lie? Why do you hate this country? You fucking lying faggot.
>>545461638lel
>>545457471>it's easier to get a new job if you already have onejust like girlfriends
>>545460436Of course, the brexiteers were all truthful kittens looking out for the common man....Fuck off with your nonsense. Brexit was and is a fucking farce.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cw23d5z87drpo>'Quiet quitting' could be hitting the economy - here's why"If you don't come into work singing and sucking off your boss then YOU'RE the reason the economy is going down the pan"Something something incentives >Over the last decade, Britons have become less engaged with the jobs they do and are less willing to put in extra effort, according to a Resolution Foundation report.Literally due to the policies they championed lol
>>545461788lmfao I did make that point a little later
>>545461788That's all the women in hiring, innit?>Like, applying for the job is kinda giving desperate? Like, why don't you already have a job? Like, kinda ick lowkey?
>>545457471>it's easier to get a new job if you already have onejust like hemorrhoids.
>>545460092She's [allowed] to say things like this because she's NigerianThat's the whole point of herConservatives are still playing the woke game with DEI armour
>>545461788and buses
>>545461710kek
>>545460886No British troops will be deployed until a peace deal has been signed so quit your scaremongering.
>>545461610your wrong in your no mandate gibbering yourself you stupid twat. i said he was wrong in his eu stuff but you are wrong saying he has no PM mandate because the only mandate to do anything as PM is be the PM which he, sadly is, despite your incorrect claims. return to twitter.if you're not correct you are wrong, and you, fatty, are wrong.
>>545461386he has a conversation with reality, personified by planet earth in space, voiced by jo branddon't be an ass
>>545460109countryphile?
boggy b giving a big smile
>>545461455Happy to have helped
>>545461660I remember being on brit/pol/ some time around 2015 and some guy was complaining about the Polish builders or whatever. An anon replied saying about how we should be happy that they are white and christian and rather than Pakistanis and Somalians, then he got shouted down by like 5 peopleA simpler time
>>545461963my bad if he does loli'm not trying to be finnicky
>>545460431it probably is him
>>545461519>>545461361tbf if you actaully check the story out. i think he really was too dumb to know what was going on.
>>545461894I call my bitches buses
>>545461934>your wrong>stupid twat>listen to me spouting a load of gibberish about how government works in the UK because I've assumed you don't know how it works because you said the current PM has no mandate, which he doesn'tYou are a classic example of what is wrong with this cuntry.
>>545461788I noticed this - I get more attention when I wear my wedding ring
>>545460796what about maltesers?
>>545461969Kek
>>545461660If we stay out of EU, stop throwing people in prison after no remand for sneezing at police while freeing violent criminals, forget the porn IDing and facesitting bans, I'll happily forgo as many other GDP percentage points as needed
>>545462096Bingo grannies be like that
>>545462075Nothing for ages then 3 cum at once?
>>545462096i got more attention with a broken nose and black eye
17 years and no other youtube video has ever reached this qualityhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jb3UobSZl34
>>545462182They can take their teeth out..
>>545462196> 3small time thinker
am high asf
>>545462096>I get more attention when I wear my wedding ringJust had an idea.
>>545461660>he has no idea what actual data to look at>>545462022>if we leave the eu, we MUST have pakis and somalians!Another retard in my country.
>>545462053yeah like it's the end of the night so he's like "idk i think I'm too mess" and reality is like "yeah u fucking messhead maybe put down the gear for a lil bit lmfao"don't challenge me on the sacred texts manI developed insomnia early and film4 was a good friend to me during the freeview days
>>545462022They were all shown up by polish workers and wanted rid of the competition. Now they get stabbed on trains by wogs. There should be an iq test for voting.
>>545462096i get more attention when i wear my cock ring
>>545462247There's a lot of girls with daddy issues
>>545462247Pipeworks Leeds?https://thepipeworks.com/leeds
>>545462307the only scene i remember from human traffic is the glass table scene and when they all drive back to belfast track
>>545462053shiiiiiiit cauldy actually I got a perfect movie rec for youdid you ever fucking watch Beats (2019)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sl3MaCxHleM
>>545462256>geezagummy
>>545462408i think it's just more intriguing like some vague passport to celebrity>ooh maybe he's exciting
>>545462270am stoned af
>>545462084because i have the facts?you are wrong and have been given correct info and refuse to accept it because it ruins your stupid little claims like they matter. they guy is a twat (like you) but he has the mandate to be PM because the MPs gave him the mandate. whatever you think is irrelevant to that fact. you are wrong like everyone else saying this. theres 300 years of fact behind it. makersfield and the labour manifesto and the last GE are irrelevant to burnham having the mandate to be PM.CRYMORETWAT>You are a classic example of what is wrong with this countrysay this to yourself in the mirror when you wake up each day.xD
>>545462423https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwerffY5Uk4
>>545462535>because i have the facts?What facts, you stupid cunt? Why have you assumed I don't know how our "parliamentary democracy" works? You are literally a stupid low IQ cunt.
>>545462436i'll watch this tomorrow this looks clarse
>>545462535the absolute state of this post lmaobet you're a little bitch irl and look down at the pavement when you walk by another male
Putin is gonna take your baked beans and wind up radios
>>545462619https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydrp9rIcC4Mknowing the actors were actually mangled here
>>545462727Bit gay of him to be reaching up my arse.
>>545462685it's kino in a very classic way up until the rave scene where it breaks down into a quasi-expressionistic series of shots and music like it's tetsuo iron man or something way more surrealit's a trip yeah lol
>>545462789good hiding place for beans that
>>545462789That's 'cause you're Putin's puppet, innit
>>545462730>looking at yourself in the mirror while tripping Extraordinary
>>545462814bookmarked it
>>545462673>Why have you assumed I don't know how our "parliamentary democracy" works?You haven't demonstrated you do. In fact you appear to be one of the useful idiots.
>>545458369Fucking hell must've missed this arc. She's probably in Patriotic Alternative or something alike to that now.
