I think the real story everyone is overlooking is that civnat conservatism is officially dead. What becomes of Trumpism from here is anyone's guess, but watching the GOP struggle to redefine itself over the next few years is going to be interesting.
>>545540663every indian here should be killed
>>545540663America is an economic zone, not a nation.
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>>545540663Rightism in general is dead, totally annihilated.
>>545541008Correct. I'm sick of retards being unable to understand the distinction.
No Ivan this isn't supporting white supremacy either.
You idiot, populism, trumpism, the dissident right, groypers, all that stupid hyper online right wing bullshit is dead. If anything trump is going to be thrown under the bus and the GOP will revert to being neocons and cuckservitives in order to appeal to independents, centrists, and moderates.This will fail as the youth arent too keen on more money for israel, more war, and pull yourself up by your bootstraps hyper capitalism I do agree that the GOP will proably be in the wilderness, although its still possible to win the presidency, democrats controlled the house and congress pretty much for 60 years in the 20th centuryThe gop think tanks need to get together and figure out a way, a purpose for the 21st century
>>545540663>losesKek
>>545541200The USA has become an economic zone, but there is an American nation and it used to have a state and a territory.
>>545541235The GOP got manhandled because they've already reverted to being neocons. Their voters gave them a taste of what that future is going to look like if they try it. Surely though they'll learn all the wrong lessons and keep trying it, so we'll have a defacto one party Democrat state for a while. GOP is honestly done for the foreseeable future and I don't see who they could run or what message they could run for 2028 when the last time they were given the full power of the federal government, they immediately did the opposite of everything they ran on.
>>545541082People didn't just suddenly become woke overnight. The same people who've been voting Trump and Republican for the past decade simply stayed home this election cycle. They haven't gone anywhere.>>545541235All I'm saying is that this reminds me a lot of 2006. I remember that era like it was yesterday, and how the GOP eventually reinvented itself through the Tea Party, only for Trump to come along and upend the whole thing. The civnat wing of conservatism is now firmly dead, and I suspect whatever replaces it will be far uglier. I genuinely don't think Democrats understand what they may have just set in motion.
>>545541420Perhaps I'm just demoralized from living on the west coast but the white people around me don't see us as a nation. How can I buy into having a people if "my people" don't see themselves as having one? Group identity requires an actual group rather than a series of individuals
>>545540663Dumb nigger said something intelligent, then makes the wrong assement in one single post.BLOOD AND SOIL!
>>545540663>What becomes of Trumpism from here is anyone's guessIt's quite obvious because it was a personality cult based around Trump being entertaining. When Trump goes so do 90% of Migatard voters who will lose interest in politics.
>>545540663All they have to do is just declare war on jews.
>>545541420To be a nation you need to have a shared culture, history, religion and of course blood. America never really had that.
>>545540903FPBP /thread
>>545541512It won't be them. They're the ones who created this mess in the first place. But look at 2024 and how many young men turned out for Trump. That voting bloc isn't just going to disappear.
>>545541034DOMINANT PAJEET
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>>545541493>I genuinely don't think Democrats understand what they may have just set in motion.The democrats didn't set anything in motion, they just took advantage of Trump going full kike and the GOP being dumb enough to go along with it. Your country just doesn't have enough conservative white people to form some kind NatSoc-esque party. That could only work in a country that's at least 80% white. The only paths forward are: Civil War 2: Electric Boogaloo, which you would likely lose, or accepting being a mixed race country.
>>545540663I agree mostly with the Tech-Right, anti-suffrage, transhumanist, economically libertarian, socially law & order strict wing.Make of that whatever you want.I view White Nationalism as retarded simply because these retards will embrace some dirty white-trash loser in a trailer park over a 140 IQ scientist because the scientist is a Jew.And no, calling ne a kike or a retard won't change my views. The rest of you have fundamentally incoherent worldviews.
>>545541630There were points that we had those things, but the roots weren't deep enough and mass immigration plus rapid technological development upheaved whatever stability we had. Look at 1950's America which was 95% ethnically European, under a common language (English), common religion (Christianity), common history (American revolutionaries, constitution etc.) and culture, such as American holidays like Thanksgiving and Halloween, (Easter and Christmas too though all of Europe had those), American football, basketball, baseball, car culture, Hollywood etc. We had tons of distinctly American culture. It's sad to me because I truly believe there was a time we were the greatest nation on Earth, but those days are long gone. It's disgusting what our country has been turned into
>>545540663>>545541034>>545541493>>545541724white Americans will rise up the day after white South Africans dowhat you're actually gonna get is a tranny nigger Congress, and a tranny nigger president, and tranny nigger hegemony, and some day a bunch of shitskins in bandanas are gonna drag you out of your house, and drag a rabbi out of his synagogue, and shove you against the wall together, and yell "DIE YOU WHITE PIECES OF SHIT" as they open fire and you'll probably get to see the rabbi smile because at least he got white genocideYour thoughts?
>>545540663The GOP is going to be struggling to cover up the MAGA brand for decades. Shouldn't have hitched your wagon to an old pedophile, chuddies
>>545540663bro most of you are descendants of literal immigrants
>>545540663The civnats will burn what's left of the GOP to the ground before letting White Nationalists take over.
>>545540663Sorry but that one was not the useful idiot you think he was, I wonder how much his payday will be?
>>545540663>What becomes of Trumpism from here is anyone's guessIt's just deadTrumpism as you understand it died back in ~2017Trumpism today is being a typical Republican but you act like an autistic, bloviating nigger instead of pretending to be a refined, cultured WASPLuckily this will also fade with him because it was always a cult of personality and nothing more
>>545541911Yes, I agree, though I think due to the sheer size of the country the states were always too different from each other to form a cohesive country for very long. You should have kept the union as just that, a union of relatively independent states. Then some of them could have remained white. But yes, rapid immigration was a huge factor.
>>545540663Conservatism is in a dangerous spot in general right now. 2024 worked out so well because Trump was able to dupe enough mexican retards to vote for him, and the left was firmly against Biden and Kamala's Gaza war. Now spics have seen their fat abuela get a gun pulled on her by some ice dude having a laugh and Trump has started an even more retarded and jewish war. You literally cannot be the pro-Israel, pro-white, anti-browns party and expect to win. Your opposition has to shit itself so badly, which is possible for democrats but you really can't bet on it more than once every handful of elections.
>>545541493Will we be getting a...National socialist party?
>>545540663>allegianceyou can keep your old passport when you "become" american.>dutykekpure immigrant cope. USA was brit, german and french for halfs its existence until crossing the atlantic was cheap
>>545541235You’re a dumbass. Has Trump governed according to the platform he ran on, he would’ve steamrolled the Dems.Right wing populism is not going away. It needs a much better leader. Do you think all the blood and soil people who hate Israel and foreign intervention and H1Bs and inflation just disappeared? No, they didn’t vote because he didn’t deliver.
>>545540663>our nation is built around number twoSides obliterated, thanks for the lulz Vivek.
>>545541909Trying to collect as many "Fell for it Again" awards as possible are we?
>>545541420>there is an American nationThere hasn't been for decades. You can't turn back the clock, the nation was conquered and dissolved long ago.Don't worry though, all of Europe is following our footsteps in destroying themselves at a breakneck pace.
>>545541909>Tech-Right, transhumanist, economically libertarianYou could have just typed "i'm pro infinity jeets" and saved yourself the keystrokes
>>545542171Mass media changes the equation on this. For better or worse. Americans have become more similar to each other over the last 50 years, not less.
>>545540663But non whites believe in #1
>>545542155>bloviating nigger instead of pretending to be a refined, cultured WASPlmfao, the GOP were radical religious whackjobs since its founding.
>>545542370Or, you could ask what my policy positions actually are, like a mature adult.
>>545542303The people are still here, still recognizable, and still consider themselves Americans. Saying otherwise is borderline treasonous, you're not just giving up but helping to make it real.
>>545542265How would I be falling for anything? I literally am pro transhumanism.Falling fir something would require me to be duped.
>>545542402That goes for everyone on Earth that has tv and an internet connection. But at this point it's a bit late with the demographics being what they are. For the USA and western Europe both.
Look it's very fucking simple- Trump was elected on a mandate to remove browns, he chased out a few mexicans but failed to hire a million men into ICE like he said. Then he kept H1Bs high and said jeets are integral or something.Keep in mind democrats are trying to pass a hinduphobia bill so these brown shit-stinking subhumans aren't going away.The solution is using our numbers to create a party that represents 90 million white men who hate leftists and shitskins and seize power by force to remove shitskins.Idiot boomers like abbott who appeal to white men one day of the year and then suck jeet dick are on notice.>>545540903FPBP
>>545542171There's two different societies you can have. A high immigration, zero safety net society like we had when my family came from European a couple hundred years ago, or you can have a society with high safety net and managed immigration (so that you don't flood the country with leaches and freeloaders). As technology developed, the industrial revolution specifically hit society became more intertwined with each other which expanded the role of the state. I don't think I agree that geographic size is the factor here, when we can look at countries like Russia or China and find them be culturally stable. In fact, an entire nation of ethnic Europeans naturally homogenized. I'm a descendant of Germans/Poles/English/Italians, and some friends of mine are Greek/English/German and Scottish/English/Welsh yet we all just see ourselves as White Americans. The nail in the coffin was the Hart-Cellar act in 1965 that for the first time in American history shifted our immigration away from strictly European immigration.
You know what would win Republicans 2028?Run on ending the fed.Prices out of control? End the fed.Billionaire oligarchs? End the fed.War in the middle east? End the fed.So many leftists would be attracted to this too, it's a very populist issue. This would be the catalyst for major economic reform that would work in the Republican's favor over time.
>>545542600If you were economically literate you would know ending the fed won't save you from anything.
>>545540663>the jeet neglects to mention all of the exceptional things America did were when it was definition #1
>>545542600Doesn't matter what they run on when they consistently fail to even attempt to do anything they say they'll do. A liar once is a liar always.
>>545541235>appeal toNoWe're going to make our own political force and seize power by violence, you're going to be shoved into an oven while you scream "this isn't normal".>purpose for the 21st centuryYour normalfag jew cocksucker party is going to die and we're going to shove you into an oven.
>>545541979>my thoughtsthe jews won years ago. this is just the writhing of the corpse.
>>545542584>when we can look at countries like Russia or China and find them be culturally stable.Russia is hardly culturally stable. Remember that they had two wars with Chechnya which is part of Russia. China has been there for 5000 years. Those people are united through blood and history.>I'm a descendant of Germans/Poles/English/Italians, and some friends of mine are Greek/English/German and Scottish/English/Welsh yet we all just see ourselves as White Americans. Yes, but that's because 40+ percent of your population is not white. If you were a 100% white country you'd have WASPs looking down on Italians and slavs and whatever. It's like how niggers divide themselves into dark-skinned and light-skinned.
>>545540663#2 is also what Rome was built upon, but polchuds are not ready to have this conversation.
>>545542492Your position is that you're a gay reddit user who wants porn beamed into your skull via chip implants
>>545540663Except 2 was just 1 with rebranding. 85% of the US was white and 90% of those were Anglo Germanics
>>545542202>Right wing populism is not going away. It needs a much better leader. Do you think all the blood and soil people who hate Israel and foreign intervention and H1Bs and inflation just disappeared? No, they didn’t vote because he didn’t deliver.He thinks we're going to keep playing le 51% games when the country is half shitskin>BUT THEN YOU'D DESTROY THE COUNTRYWhite men are the only thing keeping the country together.>>545542492Or you could go eat jeet poop, midwit libertarian dipshit.>is a jewKikes control the government illegally through aipac.See you're posting midwit bullshit you think sounds smart, because you're a loser. What's actually going to happen is your jewish masters are going to flee the country,and you're gonna get shot.
>>545542853Roman Empire, not the Republic
>>545542873Sounds like Projection.
>>545542539>you're not just giving up but helping to make it real.Yeah dude, sorry I'm not delusional enough to think we're all going to move to New Hampshire and start again.
>>545540663The founding fathers would care, above all, that democracy be maintained. The most important task for conservatives is to preserve democratic traditions. In that sense, it is curious how they embraced Trump’s almost autocratic style of leadership
>>545542914>libertarianLol
>>545540903/thread
>>545542186In what way is he pro-whiteWhere's the pro-whiteLolComing here and lying
atleast some of them went outside to celebrate sommersolstice and embrace natureyou got to see things positive. the identitarians are trying to turn the scandinavian and danish runes and the teaching of their shamans into racist fascist propaganda. what they forget is that the runes are etruskan and the whole religion is deeply rooted in animism, harmony with nature and freedom of the individual.you want to bring back german history? ok, but you will nonstop stumble upon the land of poets, dreamers and thinkers. i say bring it on 1436
>>545542694You're wrong, this is the root of everything.
>>545540663Trumpism isn't civnat politics, not anymore at least and I don't think people have realized that yet. These last two years have shown that Trumpism is nothing more than political nihilism. People who stand for literally nothing other than making others mad and winning.
>>545542694>calls himself a libertarian>loves central bankingSomehow you're actually dumber than I thought
America chose #1.
>>545542048not while im alive it wont.
>>545542694k then expel the jews
>>545542567You have this idea that diversity will result in something other than society fragmenting into a morass of ethnic fiefdoms. Jews get finance and the state, Indians get technology and gas stations, Chinese get restaurants and the hard sciences, Latinos get the trades, Whites get nothing because they think like you and not only refuse to play this game but pretend everyone else does too. You said you prefer the 140 IQ jew, but he doesn't prefer you. You will continue to get fucked over by him and people like him until you abandon your delusional invidivualism and not a second sooner.
>>545541512The social contract was broken.You used to be able to support an entire family with a house on one income in nearly any profession. This is literally all people want. But the GOP pays lip service and then acts like wanting what our parents and grandparents had is radical communism because I'm not lining up to suck Elon off in between three other jobs.
>>545542824Russia has had tensions with Chechnya for sure and if there's examples of instability to be found then it's certainly in the Caucasus. That being said, they've held together with their current existing territory for nearly a thousand years. As for China, that sort of makes my point that geographic size alone isn't enough to undermine that unity. The unity can transcend geographical distance through blood and history, a point that I'm sure we agree on. In regards to a WASP country looking down on Italians and Slavs, I'm sure that would be the case to a degree. However, America famously just mixes that away. I say that as someone of mixed descent of the exact ethnicities were discussing. I could walk around anywhere in Northwestern or Central Europe and pass as a native anywhere. It's all about degree of difference. England for example could assimilate Irish immigrants much easier than Chinese or Somalis. You as a Bulgarian will have more in common with a Romanian than you would with Sudanese or Indian. America was a pan-European project. It wasn't a global nation, it was still fundamentally western.
>>545543062>didn't call myself a libertarian>didn't say I loved central bankingI'm actually so far-right that you corny little White Nationalists and NATSOC LARPers can't even comprehend my political positions.You can only argue against phantom you create in your own head.
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>>545541420Economic zones are older than nations.
>>545542696When it was run by the natives of the land, the Native Americans, and not all the white immigrants that came later? Not a stance I expected to see here.
>>545543267I agree that Republicans refer to any form of workers rights as "socialism". At the same time, the democrats will also be disastrous as they want to open the border and flood us with as many people from everywhere as possible, which suppresses wages, while raising taxes to give benefits to these people that we will have to pay for. There's no good options, politically speaking.
>>545541909This is a modern fedora imaging he's going to be Peter Thiel someday. Not much different from the college communists who believe they'd be one of the top leaders living in the nice house for party brass instead of scrubbing floors.
>>545542939Sorry you're completely buck broken but don't act like that's you being smart about anything.
>>545543038It's jewism because that's who controls Blumpf, so there can't be anything serious besides his initial hook of saying the things people want because ultimately he was just there to do what jews want and keep the status quo while duping the goyim into thinking he was for real. Representative democracy is just shadow oligarchy.
>>545540663Indians talk like a leprechaun who got kicked in the skull.
>>545543564No Ivan this isn't da jooOs either.
>>545543409Yeah bro it was totally a legit country that did things when it was a bunch of stone-age hunter gatherers before the Europeans came. Peak reddit election tourist rhetoric
>>545540663>What becomes of Trumpism from here is anyone's guess, but watching the GOP struggle to redefine itself over the next few years is going to be interesting.Dude don't try to make it difficult than it needs to be. Just don't promote women and jeets and you will be golden. Stick to your guns. Anyone with a functioning brain already saw what's going to happen.
>>545542440Hey it's john "doodoo" brown
>>545543038>Trumpism is nothing more than political nihilismAnd unilaterally renaming geographical features.
>>545543389Empires have always been hierarchies of nations with one sitting at the top. An imperial elite trying to transcend nationality is a sign of late decline and has never succeeded even once in anything but alienating the ethnic core and collapsing the empire. The Ottomans are probably the purest example of this but you can see it in all of them.
>>545543298>Russia has had tensions with Chechnya for sure and if there's examples of instability to be found then it's certainly in the Caucasus. That being said, they've held together with their current existing territory for nearly a thousand years. As for China, that sort of makes my point that geographic size alone isn't enough to undermine that unity. The unity can transcend geographical distance through blood and history, a point that I'm sure we agree on.Yes, I agree, but this is something that takes centuries. The modern world moves too rapidly and there's too much mass media influence for a country to really coalesce like that imo. You have to keep in mind that European and Asian countries were relatively isolated from other cultures becasue there was no mass media and fast travel.>In regards to a WASP country looking down on Italians and Slavs, I'm sure that would be the case to a degree. However, America famously just mixes that away. I say that as someone of mixed descent of the exact ethnicities were discussing. I could walk around anywhere in Northwestern or Central Europe and pass as a native anywhere. It's all about degree of difference. England for example could assimilate Irish immigrants much easier than Chinese or Somalis. You as a Bulgarian will have more in common with a Romanian than you would with Sudanese or Indian. America was a pan-European project. It wasn't a global nation, it was still fundamentally western.I agree, mostly, but there's not putting the toothpaste back in the tube now.
>>545540663Trump was closing the borders. This election has fuck all to do with civnat, just an unpopular war for Israel.
>"I'm not a house nigger for kikes and starting another Middle East war is retarded!">Proceeds to be the biggest house nigger for kikes since George W Bush and starts the most retarded possible Middle East warFuck every last one of these GOP faggot shabbos nigger cocksuckers. They were lower than shit during the neo-con days and they proceeded to rebuild themselves and kikes themselves even fucking harder with the Orange Shabbos Nigger. Both parties can get fucked and burn in hell. But this incarnation of the republicans is almost the most pathetic and gay I've ever seen. Senile Trump embarrassing himself every day while the only thing that matters is kikes is what this administration is and it's fucking repulsive. Fuck 'em.
>>545542759that requires a full takeover and you shooting up some random place then dying won't contribute to that lmfao
