They just got trifectas or veto-proof majorities in enough states to pass the national popular vote interstate compact
Good! The electoral college is backwards and illiberal and embarrassing to America
the electoral college was literally a compromise the founding fathers made because some of them wanted land owners to be the only ones that could vote
>>545567137it's over for democracy
>>545568344And they were correct to want that. Things have only gotten worse by letting every retard vote
>>545567137What about proportional representation instead of winner takes it all?Votes in some states would actually matter.
>>545567137Is there any reason why electoral college would be better than just having a direct election?
>>545568482CA Dems will never cede some of their electoral votes to Republicans, and vice versa in red states to Dems.
>>545568579It protects the rights of the most vulnerable which is considered good in a democracy. There's practically no reason for the midwest to stay in the USA if they get no representation for the exact reason it wasn't useful for USA to stay in GB when it got no representation.
>>545568579It's to stop CA and NY from dictating the winner of every single election. Hillary was running victory laps in California during 2016 but ignored the rest of the country.Also, it's to make sure every state has a say in who their votes go towards. The interests of Utah are different than the interests of Vermont, for example.
Republibuster
>>545568774>It's to stop CA and NY from dictating the winner of every single electionIf only you knew how literal that shit might be
10,000 NEOPRONOUNS AND EVERY KID WILL BE FORCED TO BE TRANS BABY
>>545567137mutts should have adopted the Westminster System with Preferential Voting, but they are not civilised, so no.
>>545567137It's already over anyway with blue Texas and how the southern border is completely open now. Hopefully the goycattle whites that voted for this get the brutal deaths they deserve.
>>545568457>only rich people should vote
>>545568482that would actually build democracy in the US so they'll never sign off on that>>545568579it enables minority positions to have vastly outsized influence and the US government was designed to prevent democracy and enforce oligarchy
>>545567137American democracy is fake. the idea of a republic exists solely to remove power from the people. every single republic in history has been a slave plantation (eg banana republic)
>>545568900the southern border has been open under republicans since Reagan you fuckin moron
>>545568901Yes, landowners. People with skin in the game and a stake in the future. Try using your brain
>>545568774California has, what, a bit over 10% of the population? That wouldn't be enough for it to dictate things in a direct election.
>>545568457this guy doesn't know he's a retard that shouldn't bee allowed to vote
>>545568623I could see them considering that only if some 3rd party came into play, but that's very unlikely.
>>545568579Just imagine you share a government with Russia. You will never have enough votes to count against literally just Moscow. Russian suburbunites control your future, forever. That's America, Iowa being raped on behalf of Los Angeles.
>>545568482with the electoral college rural states are overrepresented and candidates focus their campaigns on a few disproportionately white swing states, whom they pander too.with a popular vote winning in some bumfuck rural state only gives you as many votes as winning a single neighborhood in a big city like NY, and the average voter they have to pandet to stops being some uneducated whitoid in a swing state and becomes a urban multicultural person in a big city in virginia.it's literally over for rural and suburban retards. candidates won't even bother campaigning in their shitholes
>>545568680>There's practically no reason for the midwest to stay in the USA if they get no representationIsn't this beneficial to the other states though? The midwest is just a drain on other states. Besides a Californian might argue he's the one not being represented as his vote matters less than some redneck in bumfuck nowhere.
>>545569109damn that sucksanyway we should abolish democracy so that 5 guys in buttfuck nowhere can dictate to the rest of the country how they have to live
>>545567137They won’t do shit just like every other time they have controlled shit lolThey are going to jerk off for two years And do nothing Screen cap this
>>545567137based?
>>545569203>Besides a Californian might argue he's the one not being represented as his vote matters less than some redneck in bumfuck nowhere.rightoids lose their minds over the electoral college being abolished because this is 100% true and they would lose their welfare seats in congressa wyoming resident's vote has the same weight as like 100,000 californian residents' votes
>>545568994>People with skin in the game and a stake in the future.That's everyone, though. If anything, rich people have an easier time liquidating their possessions and fucking off somewhere else if going in America gets really bad.
>>545569217Except that's never happened homobitch. At best the system prevents drastic over reach by the majority, it's never allowed a power focus by a minority. Except for kikes that preempt the voting system.
>>545569325they already passed the NPVIC in several states. cope.
>>545568900What’s wrong with America opens its Southern Borders to people in Americas?
>>545568457>land owners aren't retards
>>545569356Then what is the point in even voting retard I hope they do this (they won’t) because it will just speed up the Balkanization
>>545569641>whats the point in voting if I don't get free seats no matter how unpopular I ammaybe your party should work to appeal to the entire country if it wants to win, rather than a tiny number of farmers in flyover country
>>545569508So jerked off? exactly lol
>>545569508That's not going to go anywhere because California is just going to reneg on it if they had to vote against their own citizens to elect Trump (which they would have had to do). >>545569392If you don't have property you don't really have skin in the game, you can always just peace out without losing anything. There's 0 reason for a migrant to defend the country they are migrating into they will just leave again if something were to happen. There's 0 reason for a poor to do the same, just walk over the border to somewhere richer.
>>545567137Democrsts wont do shit like the last 3 terms they had power.
>>545569641>Then what is the point in even voting retardInfluencing things. Arguing that there's no point in voting unless you get more of a say than other people in a different part of the same country is weird as fuck. A lot of countries have direct elections with no problems. A lot of countries have moved from indirect election to a direct one with nothing but upsides. If different states of USA genuinely are so far removed from each other in terms of culture and interests that every individual voter's vote carrying equal weight would be a disaster, maybe it'd genuinely be better for the whole mess to be Balkanized.
>>545568579Most of the country's population density is liberal coastal areas and black/latino inland areas like the south and border states.So immigrantmaxxing makes easy leverage that grows exponentially with every election cycle.A direct popular vote would basically hand every election to democrats, which is why they have been pushing for it.
>>545569962>If you don't have property you don't really have skin in the game, you can always just peace out without losing anything. There's 0 reason for a migrant to defend the country they are migrating into they will just leave again if something were to happen. There's 0 reason for a poor to do the same, just walk over the border to somewhere richer.That might've been true in the 18th or 19th century, but claiming that poor people have easier time going somewhere else to start a new life than rich people in the 21st century is delusional to the point of actual insanity.
>>545567137lol believing they'll do anything with this is hilarious. clearly don't understand how American politics works.
>>545570197>That might've been true in the 18th or 19th centuryIt's more true now than ever, it's cheaper than ever to travel between countries and more countries than ever hand out no questions asked welfare.>but claiming that poor people have easier time going somewhere else to start a new life than rich peopleThat's not the claim, the claim is skin in the game. If you own nothing and you move somewhere else you have lost nothing. If you own property and then decide to abandon your property when something goes wrong you lost a lot. One person has no skin in the game the other person does.
>>545569392>If anything, rich people have an easier time liquidating their possessions and fucking off somewhere else if going in America gets really bad.that's pretty funny. have you ever liquidated an asset? how about your network? how can you liquidate that? how about a business? where are you going to get your income?so many questions unanswered
>>545569803You’re gloating now but what did the liberals do the last time they had a majority senate/ house? the same as the time before that and the time before that and so on Nothing! This is how American politics works if you haven’t noticed I swear politicfags are retardedEnjoy your Jewish puppet show I guess
>>545568344>some of them wanted land owners to be the only ones that could voteall of them wanted to restrict voting to land owners, which is why only land owners could vote in the early US.the electoral college was more about the difficulty of actually voting before widespread electrification, combined with a compromise between small states (who could just not join the union) and the larger ones.
>>545568344over time, it's become clear to me that the founding fathers were even more based than previously thought possible.
>>545569203Not really because they make our food, and suburbanites are often too retarded to realize that and will always vote for policy to sabotage their ability to do that.
>>545570852The policy is also quite wise. One of the primary reasons why world is going to hell is because the average voter is no longer aligned with the interest of the country as a whole. Degradation from land owners to all men to all people has also atomized the voting base and made the interests of the voter no longer align with a future. For instance with only men voting men casts the vote of their entire family while women are heavily encouraged to pair up to get representation. If you ever wonder why child care and education are going to hell, well that's simple single people don't need to care about those so they are free to vote for immigration instead. Similarly if you want long term stability you lose that when you give voting for all men most of whom are poor and as a result benefit a lot from instability while land owners benefit from stability. Why should a 30 year old spinster or a 65 year old boomer care about future? They got theirs fuck you.
strange how so many people want to give up their rights
They won't do shit. They literally only even put that on there to try and placate the left because>The popular vote isn't mandated, the electoral college chooses the president not the people. No it doesn't always vote with the people it gave us trump And every time they try with the vvooottttteeee nonsense we beat them over the head with that fact. But the truth is, votes never got either into power, votes are a declaration of consent. That's another reason why they'll never force or incentivize voting like they claim, because it wouldnt be a declaration of consent any more than a girl consented to epstein would it? So it would effectively be a forfeit to us, but they have to pretend because slopulismTheir entire policy list is literally just placating the left. Social housing in effect becomes the same YIMBY capital boosting air b&b and vacation home not at all affordable "affordable housing" or shoe closets on wheels. "Social food" becomes discounted city grocery stores.The list goes on. They're the same neoliberals not actually social democrats and CERTAINLY not socialists.
>>545571611they will and there's nothing you can do about it. democrats WON and they WILL abolish the electoral college, they WILL pack the courts, they WILL make puerto rico a state. there's no reason not to.
>>545569618Your rent is overdue. My agency is moving your stuff onto the street and changing the locks right now.
>>545567137>>545567886>muh democrate>the absolute state of Euro educationSTFU when grown folks talking. You dipshits don't even know what kind of speedrun it takes to accomplish this
>>545568344>let me tell you how your country worksFuck off spic.The electoral college exists because this is a union of sovereign states and each state gets equal representation
>>545567137Electoral collage is just like House of Lords in London, useless pricks who thinks what's good for Unwashed House of Coomons. Remember Remember, Fifth of November.
>>545568901Poor people damn sure shouldn't. They cant manage their own lives and should not have a say in anyone else's
>>545568579It stops tyranny by the majority which is a good thing because people are retarded.
>>545567137good the electoral college is backwards hick shit.>>545568426the electoral college opposes democracy
>>545568901Let's compromise, make everyone's vote equal to what they pay in net taxes.Since we dont tax billionaires this should mean they dont get a say right?
>>545570138Pennsylvania is joining that, so its coming over the top.
>>545568994>skin in the game and a stake in the future>the futurelollmao im sure those people really care about "the future" and not just themselves
>>545567137So Republicans can't pander to demented boomers in small towns whose economy is 80% government spending to win anymore? How awful
>>545569176>disproportionately whiteCan't help but race bait can you?
>>545567137how come all the blue states who signed the compact didn't give their points to trump in 2024?
>>545568579Because they didn't want politics to be dominated by wealthy and populous metropoles. They thought that low population density extractive industries like farming deserved a seat at the national table.
>>545569508And the new legislatures will make excuses and drag their feet because they dont want to get blamed when the winds change again, and if by some miracle they did pass it it would be challenged immediately in the courts and the Supreme Court would strike it down.>only we can engage in lawfare and obstructionism. Welcome to hell bitch, were gonna make it impossible for you to govern and blame you for everything that goes wrong.Thats what it means to be in charge
>>545569203you have no idea how absurdly critical the midwest is strategically speakingfancy cars, electronics, factories may sound really nice to an overly educated scandinavian like you but there's two things without which all your fancy gadgets could exist>food>waterthe Mississippi drainage basin is the most valuable land on earth, it has>good weather for farming>top tier soils >plenty of irrigation and water
>>545569217buttfuck nowhere guys usually want the federal government to fuck off thoughit's the urbanites who generally want the federal government to impose more rules and restrictions on everybody
>>545568994Farmoids are incoherent retards that are uber-hawkish but also want endless subsidies when the consequences of the hawkery they like fucks up their ability to sell their products.
>>545569803And maybe your party should do the same instead of appealing to handful of far left urban cores.Did you consider that maybe rural people would vote for you if you didnt hate them so much and try to make them suffer?
>>545567137>national popular vote interstate compactSC will shut it down. Compacts between states are illegal, and it's literally in the name.
>>545573200No they don't. They love Medicare, Social Security, SSDI, and ag subsidies. They just want them in a based way.
>>545567137>>545567886>antagonistic memeflag retardsWhere are you niggers organizing this spam campaign, discord?GO BACK, FAGGOTS
>>545573136>And the new legislatures will make excuses and drag their feet because they dont want to get blamed when the winds change again, and if by some miracle they did pass it it would be challenged immediately in the courts and the Supreme Court would strike it down.Supreme Court has approval rating of mud atm and that is just straight up violating the constitution at this point.What are SCOTUS gonna say? "Oh you don't have control over your own elections anymore"
>>545568482how can you have proportional representation for a presidential election? That would be better suited for congress elections
>>545573136>And the new legislatures will make excuses and drag their feetMy first job once PA legislature sworn in is to pass this abolish electoral college thing. I will make it my sole mission, even if I have to quit my job.
>>545573397What if they informally agree to do it and don't call it a compact?
They won't pass it. They learned their lesson from getting fucked on gerrymandering reform.
>>545573413EU, Ukraine, BICS (unless Russia broke agreement, which is possible), ActBlue, a million other kleptomaniac non-profits that siphon tax-dollars to promote ethnic superiority and demonize White men. Take your pick.
>>545573397States control their own elections and electoral votes.SC can't do shit about it.
>>545568344No the electoral college is a thing because we aren't a democracy but a constitutional republic. Every state larps about leaving the union but taking away their representation which this would do would unironically cause states to leave
>>545573658>They won't pass it. They learned their lesson from getting fucked on gerrymandering reform.Yea you can just keep coping you Republican faggot.
>>545573463>Supreme Court has approval rating of mud atm and that is just straight up violating the constitution at this point.Cope and seethe, justices arent elected.>we'll pack the courtAnd moderates will destroy you>we'll impeach the justicesAnd moderates will destroy you.You wont do shit because as much as you are beating your chest right now, the actual results show very clearly that it wasnt far leftists that gave you this win, it was republicans and moderates who voted to punish trump or stayed home.Your vote totals are almost identical to what they were 2 years ago when you got your asses kicked.Go do radical shit and watch that pendulum swing right the fuck back.Elections in this country are decided by who moderates are more pissed off at at the time.Ball's in your court now, I cant wait to watch you fumble it like a retard.
>>545573743>States control their own elections and electoral votes.This. The US states changed how the electoral college works. It was never "you win the state with most votes." It was " the states vote and electoral college votes after
>>545567137>memeflagOpinion discarded.
>>545569000Cali and NY have ~15% of the population. Elections completely change when you are guaranteed that right at the start and only need to capture 36% while also having other strong blue strongholds like Chicago and Dallas
>>545573524Good, please do.It will be funny as fuck when the next republican president wins all 50 states because you idiots passed this shit.Trump won the popular vote in '24 moron.All this does is change how politicians campaign.You disenfranchise 20,000 voters in Wyoming to empower 20000000 republican voters in California and new York who haven't voted in dated because their votes dont matter.Good job idiot
>>545573936>And moderates will destroy you>And moderates will destroy you.Who are these "moderates" who are "shilling" for Alito?>You wont do shitI got the PA Supreme Court elected in 2015 you fucking faggot Trump shirtless cocksucker.>because as much as you are beating your chest right now,yea cause you Republiquifs got your ass railed by BBC.>the actual results show very clearly that it wasnt far leftists that gave you this win,It was btw.>it was republicans and moderates who voted to punish trump or stayed home.It was both.>Your vote totals are almost identical to what they were 2 years ago when you got your asses kicked. Go do radical shit and watch that pendulum swing right the fuck back. Elections in this country are decided by who moderates are more pissed off at at the time.Ok, we will and we will gerrymander you out of existence this time.Ball's in your court now, I cant wait to watch you fumble it like a retard.
>>545567137Good excuse for starting a civil war.
>>545574187>It will be funny as fuck when the next republican president wins all 50 states because you idiots passed this shit.yea, it's gonna be 1964 level numbers! Goldwater 1964!
>>545574341>Good excuse for starting a civil war.You will never start shit. You didn't do it over Epstein or the Iran War. I don't think this will cause Gettysburg.
>>545568579It keeps retarded cityfags from running roughshod over the whole country. Individual states don't have an equivalent system so there are places where nearly half the state is farmers who have to obey illiterate niggers that think a feral hog is a motorcycle.
>>545574610ok, you lost migger
>>545574610>>545573102I wish we could just like, cleanly divide rural and urban politics and understand better that different people in different areas have different needs instead of everyone trying to make sure their specific version of the rules get enforced over everyone else's.I feel like we should be able to just like, literally split into Rural-America and Urban-America and we can be a constellation of blue dots scattered across a red sky and exist tending to our own specific issues without mixing everything all up.
>>545569000Making elections decided by straight popular vote just changes campaign strategies.Politicians always try to optimize votes/campaign stop.In the past this meant the campaign tours would prioritize the tossup states with most EC votes, and would try to canvass the entire state.Moving to straight popular vote just means candidates will ignore swing states and just focus on population density and raw turnout.States like Wyoming that democrats bitch about so much get ignored in either case.Its actually likely that like every other democrat policy this will blow up in their face.Democrats seem to hold to this belief that the absolute majority of the population is liberal, when the voting statistics show this is simply not the case.Only like 13% of the population voted this year.Statistics show consistently that the population of america is ~25% liberal, ~30% conservative, 5% some flavor of extremist, and the remaining 40% doesnt care about politics at all.As they love to point out, the majority of the people live in blue states, but that dorsnt mean the majority of the people are blue.Republicans rarely win the popular vote because thanks to the electoral college there is little reason for Republicans in blue states to vote.The same is true for democrats in red states.However, just looking at the numbers there are far more Republicans in blue states than democrats in red states, so now all Republicans need to do is convince them to go vote.They never bothered before because it didnt matter.And in the end it doesnt matter anyway because elections will still be decided by whoever can win the largest chunk of that politically unmotivated middle section.The "demographics are destiny" people just do not live in political reality.The republicans won white women and Hispanics in 2024.This election was not about socialism, it was about gas prices, and democrats who think this is a mandate to go far left are gonna get wrecked in 2028.
>>545574349>completely ignores my core argumentIm gonna enjoy attacking every mistake you make for the next 2 years.Have fun
>>545567137I'll just be an even more rabid freedom fighter then, it's bad enough that the EC has been gutted by immigration and allowed gerrymandering across the nation. America was never meant to be a direct democracy and it heading towards one is grounds for legitimate revolution, if you were waiting for your sign it's here lads.
>>545574251I know you would like to pretend the 80 million Republicans dont exist, but everytime you do that when you gain power you get punished for it.I would hope you had learned your lesson, but being a democrat is a learning disability so im sure you will fuck it up again.
>>545574251>It was btwYou got the same number of votes as 2024, you didnt convince anybody new to support your far left bullshit
>>545575716Democrats aren't liberals, they are very much limiting liberty and buying votes which is why brown people which are naturally conservative support them.
>>545567137This would be a miracle, but the far-right supreme court would probably prevent it. Enacting rank-choice voting on the the state level however might happen.
>>545576505in america liberal means free stuff for everyone but whitesthey liberate the white taxpayers money, the only group that pays more than they take out over a lifetime
>>545572947It only gets implemented when states representing over 270 electoral votes pass it into law
>>545567137A meme flag is always a LIAR
>>545567137THANK GOD
>>545573136*abolishes the filibuster**packs the courts*now what?
>>545568457Letting only landowners vote means the only people who remain lamdowners are those who vote...We didn't need a pseudo-feudal system/nobility.
We've given you the chance to govern for 60% of the century and all we've gotten is War and billionaires raping the country from you, you do not deserve any federal power
>>545567137Good
>>545576505We have a different paradigm here than you do in europe.Here liberal is just the antonym of conservative.And conservative just means preserving the status quo essentially.
>>545573936by the time the pendulum swings back the electoral college will have been abolished already, plus puerto rico and washington will be states. now what?
>>545567137>Democrats will abolish the electoral collegeholy fucking based only tranny migger losers would possibly hate this kek
>>545576556Cool, so we can have banana republic ahit like what happened in Alaska on a national level.Why dont we just abolish altogether and apoint a commission of democrat socialists to rule for life?We can make AOC the emperor
>>545577483And they'll vote to expropriate the wages of urban craftsmen and merchants to prop up their failing latifundia. Jeffersonian Democracy was a mistake.
>>545568579it stops low IQ retards from ruining countries because if you're too stupid to realize land and resources should be accumulated as quickly as possible in your life, your opinion literally doesn't matter.
>>545577400>gets destroyed in 2028 by moderates who oppose that shitAnd around and around it goes.Its always funny to me when democrats gain power the way they seem to believe they will never lose it again
>>545569109oh you mean like it is right now where 2 senators from bumfuck wyoming with 500k people is more important than 40 MILLION people in california?retard
>>545569539Why would you even ask such a stupid question?
>>545577483Voting should be tied to your status as a taxpayer.Only net tax payers should vote and the. Alue of their vote should be proportional to the taxes they pay.
>>545568344>because some of them wanted land owners to be the only ones that could voteI am starting to see why
>>545567137The US will be spic majority soon so who cares
>>545577704You will lose the popular vote like you did in 2024.This isnt the killshot you think it is, because you arent the majority you think you are.
>>545573200>usually want the federal government to fuck off thoughtheir entire existence is funded by federal farm subsidies ie gibsby your own logic they should be denied votes for being useless welfare leeches
>>545567137sure, just get an amendment passed by Congress, then ratified by 38 states
>>545573304>handful of far left urban cores.you literally cannot break the "land votes" mentalitywhat % of american population lives in these urban cores? I'll wait
>>545569962I agree though in modern times I think only people who have children under 18 living in their household should be able to vote, 1 vote per household. Mother and Father having a kid is the only real and true investment into the countries future, and generally parents want whats best for their child, and they would vote accordingly so. They lose the right to vote when their kid goes over 18, so they don't become voters where it suddenly becomes all about themselves, like boomers.And people who served at least 5 years in military.
>>545578351Limiting voting doesnt change the real problem>The assholes you elect dont do shit for you and face no consequences for it
>>545568344... You aren't American, but you're mostly right.It was to prevent the tyranny of the Majority and prevent a fashionable political ideology from just steamrolling everything and fucking the country up irreversibly. Much of what is set up is meant to slow down legislative moves.>We lost the plot when women got the right to vote>Everyone from minority men to 18 year olds made sense to getting a vote because they could be conscripted so they should have a say in foreign policy. That is not the case with women and you can see where they have wrecked budgets and political discussions.>Women having a right to vote COULD work, but only when they have equal responsibility and accountability, women vote against this being implemented constantly.The electoral college is the constipatior we need. A lot of the failures we currently have are due to loop holes in emergency powers or federal programs to circumvent the Constitution.All elected officials problems are traced back to hysterical attention seeking or chasing short term bribes for campaign stuff.
>>545577928are these moderates in the room with us right now?
>>545575716Most reasonable post in the thread. If anything popular vote will force red voters in blue states to actually vote and be visible, which hopefully in turn forces local blue candidates to take less radical stances to appeal to them
>>545578351That's effectively what 1 vote per man was, women get enfranchised by pairing up and pairs generate children as a natural and enjoyable passtime.>>545578555It for the most part does. You are allowed to cheat on most of your promises because the electorate is atomized and has no recourse. Everyone can agree to hate you and they are still all disagreeing with each other on what to do hence why you can do just bare minimum and still maintain popular support.>>545578833If a states voters decide they should follow the popular vote they can in fact just do that.
> MUH MINORITY RIGHTS > MUH SMALL STATES REPRESENTATION Hopefully they remove it ASAP. Land does not vote retards
>>545568579None. Its DEI for redstates.
If the EC is abolished, the low population regions would end up like Puerto Rico or Guam where everybody forgets they're even part of the US until a hurricane or mass flood happens. Even though the low population Midwest grows food and other resources for the whole country
>>545568994Well "landowners" flooded the country with niggers for profit back then and theyre flooding the country with spics today...for profit
>>545578555The electorate would have to pander to people who care about the country and are actively invested in the future of it, instead of retarded boomers, retarded zoomers, and niggers.
>>545568579>>545568774Easy fix annything voting needs to be at least 90%None of this bullshit 30% turnout decides we drive off a cliff. Makes voting a DUTY or nothing gets done
>>545568994If that were the case you would be more of a jewish slave than the one you are now.
>>545579842Fool you can elect who you want but he wont help you only his donors
>>545571742>make a purple at best, light red at worst territory a stateIgnorant niggaz from /pol/ Vil. 2026
>>545579895ok>cities still dominate because more people live in citiesthanks :)!
>>545567137Abolish the Senate next. It's not an accurate representative body of US voters.
>>545569203Yea it sucks voting in CA. It's permanently blue and it makes voting for federal seats predetermined. CA has a lot of Republicans too but they are forced to vote blue.
>>545568579Is there any reason for jews to import millions of non whites into the US post world war? It has the same answer
>>545579130sorry tranny we're changing the constitutionits we the corn now
>>545580614>Abolish the Senate next. It's not an accurate representative body of US voters.And the Supreme Court. Jefferson was talking about how bad this was in the 1800s.
>>545567886>Gets rid of electoral college>Every state and city outside of Cali, NY, TX, and FL get abandoned overnight
>>545568994Like Elon who wants to flood every company with pajeets ?
>>545580804Maybe if republicans had some policies besides deepthroating billionaire and nazi cock, you'd win something.
>>545568994>landowners.so jews?
>>545567137OK
>>545581393>nazi cockJewish cock you mean
>>545567137The electoral college doesn't matter anymore because California and Texas are blue states now. It is impossible for Republicans to win the presidency
>>545581393It makes the people in charge complacent. They can enact their nanny state policies undeterred.
>>545575496The original system was full of such divisions that have been relegated to historical footnotes in the past 250 years.
>>545581520no, nazi.there's a reason most jewish folks voted for democrats
>>545568579It protects democracy in spite of itself.
>>545581520republicans will suck any cock for a nickel from one of our enemies, both domestic and foreign.We're only going to be able to end this shit by making weak men meet justice for crimes around the world.End Citizens United asap. Fuck billionaires.
>>545568579America was originally designed to be more like an EU or a NATO with each state a completely independent nation in an alliance, and gradually worked itself into provinces of a single nation over about 100 years. The Electoral College is a holdover from the original design.
all the losers seething itt kekjust be happy we're not making guam a state too
>>545580246You dont care if cities vote, you care that the shitskins and white women in those cities do. Newsflash retard that aint getting passed
>>545567137good
>>545567137Abolish this country and balkanize
>>545568774It would mean that for the first time in a long time the Republicans in those two states would have an actual reason to go out and vote
