>>545602231No. He would get clobbered in 28 like McCain and that would be the end of that.
>>545602231without Israel's sabatoge? absolutelybut that reality will never exist
>>545602231Yes. He is the only hope the GOP has for 2028. Massie was right the entire time and Vance admitted it.
>>545602231no. he's a pussy who faltered when he had the chance to step up
>>545602231Massie is really good on israel and foreign policy in general.Unfortunately he is dead wrong about how money and government spending works and would impoverish the country even further.
>>545602231>Could he take the reigns from Trump to lead the next right-wing movement into presidency?A petulant toddler could take the reins from Trump right now
I love how there’s literally one guy in the republicans that’s not a Zionist and he’s a lolbert lmao
>>545602231i'm sure republicans will find the perfect jeet for the job
>>545602421>I HAVE THE LIST FOR REAL GUYS>>545602231I really like massie but withou AIPAC support you can't get anywhere in washington
>>545602231No the Ron Paul people are only like less than 15% of the party.
>goycattle still believes there's a peaceful solution>just VOOOOT harder next timeIt's over. Really is overWe will witness the extinction level of White race this century.
>>545602231does a jew have to be lazy every saturday? (rhetorical)
Republicans wont be controlling any chamber of congress or the presidency for at least 20 years. Don't you get it?
No.Lolbertism is a meme ideology that very few people like.
>>545602231No, the GOP is fundamentally an israel-first party and would never let someone like him take the reins
Yeah and concern trolling trannies here will say no and try to stop the GOP from having any viable candidate...While pretending they care about Israel and pedos right up until they get a power grab and drop the concern trolling.
>>545602648chin up buttercup. exhausting (((them))) at every front globally is clearly having a detrimental effect on them. there's a reason why they have been accelerating as much as possible before 2030. Times almost up for degenerate freaks. A new renaissance will follow.
>>545602794>>545602629>>545602512Anti-libertarian types have zero to offer anyone, at any time.They just hate someone talking about freedom and liberty.All they want is >"ME GOD KIND AND YOU SLAVE BITCH TO ME"That's all most people want but will never admit to it.
>>545602231Massie has no leadership potential and he loves jews.
Why does he run as a Republican if he's a Libertarian? Ron Paul did the same thing.
No he's goofy goober and autistic.Ron DeSantis or nothing at this point. White chad. intelligent, succesful at politics.
>>545602912So when are these newly elected trannies going to gas the kikes?
>>545602957Libertarians get a lot of hate for basically controlling nothing ever.
>>545602231He'll be a third party candidate in 2028. Republicans are fucked.
>>545602231He'd need a good vp
>>545602231It will happen. America First conservatives will take the reigns of the party.
dude I'm pretty sure they killed and replaced himhe cucked out on so much
my issue with massie is that he's a libertarian which is basically a liberal that's slightly more culturally right.he's still pro mass immigration, etc. so he's only marginally better than a democrat.i want an actual nationalist president.
>>545602231No. Republicans are going to put a Goldwater type up. Populism is on the decline and people really are just going to want a guy that's going to shut the fuck up and keep things on the rails.
>>545602957Lolbertism just isn't popular though. People use it as a stepping stone to other beliefs, they either end up far leftists or rightists then when they grow up they become moderates.>>545602957>They just hate someone talking about freedom and liberty.Lolbertism is also seen as weak and ineffective, even by people who like it as an idea they see it hasn't actually done anything to prevent their rights being trampled upon.I would like the US to have more of that belief going on tbqh though
>>545603294you have one now though
>>545603233Wait is that real? Is AOC actually that stacked?
>>545603306100%The only way forward for the GOP is normal old conservatism rather than carny politics.Trump has poisoned things though, it'll be years before the GOP can make people forget about how pathetic and subservient they were to him.
They literally dropped 300 million to primary him what makes you think he'll survive the inevitable tractor accident if he ever runs again
>>545603370He says that but where are they? Every congressman has one? Can we get one of them on video or a name of one then?
>>545602231Nope, not as long as I am alive. Fuck your movement.
>>545602231>Says pedophilia is bad>Gets kicked out of party
>>545602231No. He's ideologically one of the best, but he doesn't have the charisma and stage presence to win. And also this is unfortunately true >>545602629 the Ron Paul movement was pretty much wiped out by the Trump supporter generation in 2016
>>545603306i disagree that populism is on the decline. republicans did nothing to address the causes that led to populism in the first place and i highly doubt democrats will either. people will still be pissed off by the lack of upward mobility and the cost of things.
>>545602421>no. he's a pussy who faltered when he had the chance to step upGive Massie 2 more weeks.Then 2 weeks every 2 weeks until you die.
>>545603588Joe Kent/Massie
>>545603294I don't think the right response from an ever-aging dwindling white population is to start ethnic cleansing.
>>545603370It's a nice trick to get people to think of Massie as the good guy on our side instead of a jewish plant scumbag politician.The same trick is used for Fuentes, the most banned guy on the Internet who is spammed everywhere by algorithms that have banned him. If we believe that politics is real and organic, then Massie himself is a fraud as he campaigned for AIPAC funded Ron DeSantis to become president in 2024.
>>545603888>I don't think the right response from an ever-aging dwindling white population is to start ethnic cleansingSpotted a retard.
>>545604247Show flag, kike jeet
>>545603888then the right move is to ensure the left loses as well. if we can't win then we should be looking to deny the left a win and allow this country to degrade further so that future historians peg diversity and multiculturalism as one of the causes of us decline.
yes please
>>545602798>the GOPHe wouldn't run GOP you absolute retardFor the first time in a long while there is a slate of experienced politicians who can form the core of a legitimate new party right now. If they're not organizing it they're stupid.
>>545603365are you just now learning that AOC is a tittymonster?
>>545603707Something like that may work, I really don't know much about him though.>>545603294>he's a libertarianYou've never met a real libertarian if you think that. He's a conservative that leans somewhat libertarian, not the other way around.
>>545603344You have a bad case of >If it's not PERFECT, I'll throw it out and just let straight up evil retardation win instead.
>>545603538You are a kike
>>545604661Most of what makes Ron Paul a "libertarian" is small government and limited government power, which should be conservative ideas, but alas.
>>545603707Gabbard
>>545602231No he was anti ice and voter id.
It's going to be two black "women" running for POTUS in 2028.
>>545602231I don't know but with a full Democrat government he might have the chance to release all the pedo files. GO MASSIE, GIVE THEM YOUR LAST FUCK YOU TO TRUMP AND THE KOP
>>545602957No. He's genuinely and unironically wrong about how money works. The government ISSUES the currency. It doesn't borrow it. No matter what anyone tells you, it's not actually borrowing its own currency.If the government doesn't spend the money into existence, none of us have it.>just use gold bro!Why would you want your ability to conduct economic activity to be limited by the supply of a commodity that isn't actually necessary for most economic activity (productive processes that create actual goods and services) to take place? Never seen a good answer to this.
>>545602231DeSantis / Massie 2028Asmongold Sec of State
>>545604864Actually Gabbard JD ticket would be a banger
>>545604661>>545604827small government and limited government power doesn't erase that power. it creates a vacuum that gets taken up by other groups like corporations or foreign interests. libertarians have an obnoxious symbiotic relationship with corporations which is why libertarian groups like RAND always push for mass immigration.these niggers think if you keep the government small and powerless the power disappears, but the power doesn't disappear. it just turns corporations into the state.
>>545602231Al Borland's brother? I don't think so, anon.
>>545604735It's more than just being imperfect, it doesn't have any answers to problems people are mad about.Right now a big reason for the loss is the affordability crisis. Lolberts do not see that as even a 'problem' in the first place because it's just the market doing what it does.>>545604787>There are hundreds of these AIPAC guys all over the place, one for each congressman>Wow, can I see any of them?>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>545605003That's a fair argument. Bitcoin was supposed to be decentralized and belong to the holders, not the banks. But it allowed whales (massive holders) to have all the power. So, a productive debate and policy to run on would be how to safeguard against that.
>>545602231He's my first choice for 2028. Especially if the rest of the Epstein files come out and it's just a complete cluster fuck and he's completely andbutterly vindicated.
>>545604949>Why would you want your ability to conduct economic activity to be limited by the supply of a commodity that isn't actually necessary for most economic activity (productive processes that create actual goods and services) to take place? Never seen a good answer to this.The answer has always been that gold retains purchasing power because it exists in reality and isn't subject to just being lied about like fiat paper money is. You can't inflate gold, so the purchasing power of the currency stays the same, prices don't creep up every year until everything is too expensive. We can't call this a bad idea because it worked for our country for over a hundred years.They got rid of it just to print out money and hand it to themselves. Which destroyed the value of the money, aka inflation.
>>545605328>Right now a big reason for the loss is the affordability crisis. Lolberts do not see that as even a 'problem' in the first place because it's just the market doing what it does.I don't know how you're using as a standard here but every Objectivist and Libertarian I've ever seen talks about nothing but the money and affordability and inflation destroying purchasing power. If they're truly pro-capitalist (which few are) they understand the difference between inflation and supply and demand. You're referring to some boomer who doesn't get these subjects and probably never read or interacted with someone does.
always with the best(Thom Massie!)again and againalways with the best(Thom Massie)again and again
Massie '28 wouldn't be the worst idea.
>>545605642>>545605906Troons out here making sure the GOP has no option, as always, sabotaging the GOP and letting Troon Party win.
So are Republicans supposed to start talking about the debt again? That didn't really work well in the past.
>>545604613>a third party can totally win bro!who are you calling a retard?
>>545603888I disagree.
>>545602648Whites will never go extinct unless there's a global catastrophe that wipes out every single person on Earth. Whites may lose their countries but there will be pockets of holdouts everywhere that will take care of themselves and outlast the shitskins that take over the White countries. The US might be the hardest to wait out and retake because Mexicans seem to thrive under warlords but muzzies won't stick around Europe once the gibs dry up because it's too cold and niggers will die within a couple years because they're fully incapable of taking care of themselves and then the White holdouts can regain control and do it all over again.
>>545603044>doubling down on israel after it already lost you the midterms
>>545602512>Keynesian nigger thinks his trillion dollar debt is good for the country>Keynesian nigger thinks they can print all they want because the world will take it forever>Keynesian nigger thinks fake money makes the economy move aroundStop being black. Please.
>>545603099They don't hate kikes, they hate Israel because Israel kills brown people, it's a big difference
>>545603044Ron DeSantis is an uberzionist
>>545607051>Whites will never go extinct unless there's a global catastrophe that wipes out every single person on Earth. Whites may lose their countries but there will be pockets of holdouts everywhere that will take care of themselves and outlast the shitskins that take over the White countries.You're coping hard.You can't have a White race without White women. White women are overwhelmingly leftist retards that see nothing wrong with race mixing.It's over.>muzzies won't stick around Europe once the gibs dry up because it's too cold Like it doesn't fucking snow in Pakistan.
>>545603233Not AOC’s tits and no one would pair her as VP after how stupid Harris was.
>>545603044meatball has sugar in his tank, lol
>>545607493>White women. White women are overwhelmingly leftist retardsYeah, I acknowledge that hence the holdouts part of my post. White women are overwhelmingly retarded but not 100% and groups like the Amish in the US will survive. I'm not familiar with the subgroups like that in Europe but I imagine the pikeys in the UK would hold out>Inb4 they're trashSure, I'm arguing White people won't go extinct through
>>545602231He would get the support from the country, but the problem is that the ethnic mafia that controls Congress would kill him to ensure one of their compliant pro-Israel golems gets the spot instead of him. Reminder that this faction killed their way into power in the US (JFK) and are still killing people in order to maintain that control, i.e. Massie's wife.
>>545602231this man is the most based politician in the us right now
>>545602231Voting doesn't matter retard.Most of congress is Israeli dual citizens.All of Trump and Biden's children married Jews.Every president fights wars for the Jews.KYS.
>>545607946>Most basedSo a guy who lost his primary, and the Republican who beat him in that primary, wins the election for Massie’s seat in a blue wave. Massie is toast.
>>545606301>can winwho said anything about winning?
>>545603888No, the right time to do that was 20 years ago but you faggots got lazy.
>>545602231next two presidents are guaranteed democraticjust the facts jack
>>545609172The Democrats are two coalitions who hate each other. They will go to war with themselves immediately. Winning big in this election will sew their downfall. The GOP is cooked, great news. The Democrats are right behind them. Stay tuned.
>>545602231>Could he take the reigns from Trump to lead the next right-wing movement into presidencynot with a 0 rating from AIPACbut if GOP were smart they would be listening to him
>>545609564>GOP were smartthe GOP is dead, nigger. look at who voted for them - boomers. everyone under 65 hates their guts.
>>545602231He and Marge are the only GOPedophiles that spoke about publishing the names of the pedophiles so they are they only GOPedophiles that will gain any traction among the few Republicans who don't support pedophilia.
>>545602231He should but he likely won’t unless the people who defamed him are held accountable and banished from the party
>>545605603Libertarians don't have a solution to these things. For example, the property market being so expensive only old people can buy houses. The libertarian view is 'Ok, so? That's the free market doing what it does.' And by their own ideology that's right. If you believe in free markets then things becoming expensive for young people is just the way it might be.Milton Friedman said illegal immigration is a good thing because, essentially, they're cheap slaves. In other words, there are issues to the well being of the nation which libertarianism is not concerned with because the 'nation' means more than just money.
>>545602421He did name who he legally could. Even fucking David Copperfield. But the rest of his colleagues and media didn't back him up. You cannot be a single person against the gigantic organization like the federal government of the USA and tattle on everyone without committing suicide by shooting yourself in the back of the head 3 times with a pump action shotgun.
>>545605906He has no support. None.
>>545603707You are a clown if you believe this.
>>545610852You'd be surprised.
>>545602231No, the simple fact is that Republicans have an evangelical humiliation fetish and don't actually want to win too hard. They enjoy being dominated by Democrats on one side and Zio Christ-killers on the other side. Remember years ago when all these Republicans were being outed for diaper fetishes and whatnot?
I actually think he has a good chance given his well known beef with Trump. I think lefties know they are too weak and retarded to own Trump and they know Massie can and will. The unhinged ones also know Massie will stand on his anti-war promises. Basically I think Massie can get all or at least the majority of the swing states and that’s really the difference maker in the American election.
>>545610681>Libertarians don't have a solution to these things. For example, the property market being so expensive only old people can buy houses. The libertarian view is 'Ok, so? That's the free market doing what it does.'Again, you're talking to some old boomer.The younger people will get into all the regulations the government puts on housing that makes it more expensive. I've never seen libertarians defend high prices on anything -- i've seen christcuck boomers do. >If you believe in free markets then things becoming expensive for young people is just the way it might be.No if you believe in free markets, you believe young people have every right to find a way to use their economic freedom to make things cheaper.Again, your sample size appears to be "my boomer neighbor I don't like." >Milton Friedman said illegal immigration is a good thing because, essentially, they're cheap slaves.No he didn't. I read 95% of his catalog and never seen anything like that.
>>545602231He couldn’t even keep his seat, he ended his career. It would be pointless to run. He’ll probably do it anyways.
massie could def be a possible dark horse candidate, i would say it would be like ron paul on steroids. But i dont think he wins in the end, just like ron paul
>>545603233she now has my vote
>>545602231Honestly he'd do better than most. He'd be a better rep than Tucker because some on the left grew to like him over the Epstein thing and Tucker has too much baggage from Fox News, MTG is too tied to schizo conspiracies and retarded woman moments etc. Massie's "live and let live" libertarian thing, anti-war, "i stood up against trump when no one else did" etc could do well with independents. Definitely need to watch him
>>545602421democrats need to force DOJ to unredact stuff in january
he won the brown vote in his primary so its looking good for him
>>545602231First he has to understand why his own people sided with the president over him. He might technically be right but his backstabbing nature makes him look unreliable.
>>545602231He can but I hold both French-Revolution (((Fake))) sides firmly in my Grasp.https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/filename/Screenshot%20_pol_/https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/username/Chriswade%20W.%20Willcurseon/https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/username/Nyggers/https://mega.nz/folder/SuxFBS6C#6p9RpmW089injqe7MyOM5Ahttps://mega.nz/folder/CjxyUTJA#Q9XXWqXg0koaMzZ5KF14Vghttps://files.catbox.moe/2z0x0d.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/e544n8.pngX.>>OP
>>545602231The GOP is solidly behind Trump right now and it's getting them raped. It looks like they'll shift to Vance in 2028 and assuming Trump continues to fuck up, JD will distance himself from Trump's decisions and basically say>I didn't agree with the decisions but it was my job to carry out the President's wishesThis will be the mainstream GOP attempt to win back their support without changing anything, and the segment of the GOP that wants to adapt is just too small to matter. Maybe that new party actually forms, maybe in 10-20 years enough of the Republican party isn't neocon, but at this point they're just fucked and it's not going to change in time for the next election or anytime soon, if ever.
>>545603044>ron desantsteinno thanks j*w
>>545602743That's only contingent on continuous israel First policy. If they hiccup for even a second, or throw in an anti evilness candidate like Massie, I will vote for them in a heartbeat.
>>545605328crying j*w
>>545602231No. He's basically an Fox News anchor with extra steps. He has no interest in governing seriously. He just wants people to like him. Which is normal for politicians. But in his case he lacks the self awareness to admit it.
>>545603888you aren't White (human) so who cares what you think?
>>545603618Current year Republicans and Democrats are still too retarded to understand what made populists like Huey Long so popular was that he actually delivered on his promises in a mostly straight forward manner and was still just as corrupt, but people willingly overlooked it, because he was one of the few actually delivering on his promises and improving people's situations. I don't even understand why Democrats vooters, especially, have started singing his praises more recently, when they support the type of politicians he fucking hated.
>>545602231No, that retard couldn't even win his own primary as the incumbent because he would rather drone on about muh USS Liberty incident than pass the SAVE act.He and all of his supporters are worthless retarded scum who need to fuck off to the lolbertarian party or something.
>>545602231Really the biggest takeaway from both Trump terms is that you need a functioning coalition to properly govern. Trump couldn’t get the party fully behind him either of his presidencies, no matter how much the media wants to say he had an “iron grip on the party”, they consistently failed to back him or push his agenda, especially when it mattered. Massive alienated himself from the party entirely, and has no friends across the isle. We don’t need another impotent politician. Libertarian candidates are not going to fix the government, they don’t even believe in governing. At this point it’s hard to envision what republicans can do to win anybody back. They really just have to hope democrats entirely shut the bed in the next two years. After that, they need to rely on candidates like DeSantis or Bill Lee, popular and successful governors who improved their states. If Rubio is incredibly careful he may escape the current administration, but at this point it’s seeming unlikely.
>>545602231Is the Republicna brand still let the richest control the party and fuck over the voters?Then maybe Elon still has a lot of money.
>>545603651Both sides bullshit doensnt hold wayer when one side gets BTFO.Not a blue wave. Not a blue tsunami. It was a Bluekkake.
>>545603888There could be one White man left on earth and you'd cut some other brown's throat for a chance to work for Him.
>>545602374Jesus people are stupid. Massie is controlled by Israel just like the rest of them."I don't take money from AIPAC" is bullshit when your biggest donor is a Jew billionaire who ALSO funds AIPAC.He whines about how much money was spent on his race without admitting 90% of that money was HIM and his Jew billionaire friends. He quite literally outspent his primary opponent 10-1 and he did it with Jewish money while claiming "I don't take money from AIPAC".. and you retarded fucking niggers just swallowed it whole without looking in to it even a little bit.
>>545602231honestly he probably could
>>545614499they killed his wife what more do you need
>>545611882>. I've never seen libertarians defend high prices on anythingThere is no libertarian solution other than just 'deregulate and the market will fix itself'. There are a lot of bad regulations but that isn't the magic key to fixing these various problems.This is why libertarianism isn't that popular, because it's an ideological belief system that will refuse to admit that the free market isn't absolutely perfect. It's great at generating money, that's a good thing. There are some issues where just generating money is not the only thing to consider, such as demographics. And property prices are another one.>No if you believe in free markets, you believe young people have every right to find a way to use their economic freedom to make things cheaper.Yeah they do. I also believe in some things being regulated, like the national parks being kept from being built upon for example. If there was no government then you'd have no national parks anymore because they'd be paved over and turned into cheap apartments, stores and so on because it'd be land to grab.https://www.youtube.com/shorts/xRSJJXdyfMYI've already said I think some libertarian ideas should be taken up. I think there is too much regulation of various types and there's immense government bloat that has been getting worse and worse for decades. All of that is fine, but being religiously convinced about the free market solving things is communist tier utopia thinking. It has never been tried in the real world just like communists have supposedly never gotten their dreamland.
>>545602231Yes.
>>545602231lol
>>545602231No.
>>545602231>Could he take the reigns from Trump to lead the next right-wing movement into presidency?No, for the same reason he lost his election; Mossad will never allow it.
>>545614580Or perhaps he did and they control him with it. He sure got married quickly after she died, like literally 2 months later, and no cause of death listed in the paper.
>>545602346It's worth a shot, it's not like there's any other politicians in this country currently who are fit to be president.It's literally Massie or ZOG, those are the choices.
>>545612277They won't. They only pretended they wanted all the names revealed when they didn't have the power to do it.It's how politics work. It's like how Obama had a supermajority and the democrats could have fulfilled every liberal communist wishlist. They did not. When Obama lost his supermajority they started screaming about their liberal wishlist again now that they could not implement it. "the evil republicans are blocking us."It's all theater.
>>545602231Lol no
>>545605358This is extremely revisionist history regarding the gold standard. But when you're dealing with people who have an almost quasi-religious attachment to it, you almost don't know where to start.
>>545602231no, he's a fence-riding cuck and pols on both sides see him as a potential traitor, which means he's a liability, and neither side will want him.
No. Republican voters rejected him. They don't want America First. They want dirty knees for jewish loads.
>>545602231>cried about beaner boats getting drone-strikedHe's not right-wing.
The only republican I respect.
>>545602231Yes, actually. In fact he stands the best chance of winning the general election out of anyone in that godforsaken party at this point. Though the party would try hard to shut him down in the primaries.
