>>545615849
I'm surprised for Colorado the school facilities by biological sex and ban on trans surgery for kids are so close. I'd vote yes on both but banning kids get what are functionally cosmetic surgeries seems so obviously like the right call.

>>545615849
>Less than 100k votes between yes and no in a referendum about mutilating kids genitals
The left is not misguided. The left is evil. Never forget that. Not even for a millisecond.

>>545615849
Even if it passes in Colorado it’s embarrassing for it to be this close

>>545615849
Insane to me that the troon ban passed by a wide margin in wa but the income tax repeal didn't.

>>545616216
It’s barbarism. Same jewish barbarism from Weimar.

>>545616156
Keep in mind Colorado is a very blue state and this is a huge blue wave. Roughly 200k people who voted for the Democrat also voted in favor of the ban.

>>545615849
1. They were lied too by Elon Musk.
2. They are unconstitutional and will be struck down.

NOBODY
CARES

The total, blowout loss in this election marked the end of "culture war" politics. FFS, some loser wants to play girls sports with a swinging dick, it's irrelevant.

>>545616284
>but the income tax repeal didn't.
Because it (for now) only applies to millionaires. People might delude themselves into thinking it will ease the tax burden on themselves or will lead to better infrastructure and services.

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>>545616317
Turns out that Dems are less focused on children's genitals than the Republicans, and far far less than /pol/.

>>545616317
It’s unacceptable that this is even an issue being discussed. People who want to mutilate kids to force faggot tranny shit are incompatible with society and civilization and should be treated like the deranged monsters that they are, not as “le innocent brainwashed college libs.”

>>545616284
Wouldn't surprise me if the wording confused blue voters. Thurston county voting against trannies is an obvious tell

>>545615849
This is the GOP version of Dems forcing abortion referendums in red states. That didn't stop the GOP from being pro-life.

>t. would vote yes on the surgery one and no on the sports one.

>>545616353
>They were lied too
Learn to spell pls
>They are unconstitutional
Not under the US Constitution. The Supreme Court already held that. And do you have any reason to think that three different state constitutions all say these laws are unconstitutional, or is that just copium?

>>545616397
>I will pay less taxes AND get better roads
The State has a hundred different ways to tax you, they can repeal income tax and sales tax the shit out of you.

>>545616353
You will be hunted down and terminated before you have the chance to kill yourself.

>>545616393
>FFS, some loser wants to play girls sports with a swinging dick, it's irrelevant.
It's not just irrelevant, its banned.

>>545616459
If the wording was unclear you'd see red voters going the other way. Lib voters are more educated than chuds in Colorado.

>>545616512
>Not under the US Constitution.
Their STATE constitutions retard. Do you want me to show you?

>>545616397
>Because it (for now) only applies to millionaires.
State legislators have stated on the record that they're already planning on dropping the limit into the 250k/yr range. Only months after passing and the bill hasn't even gone into effect yet. Anyone who doesn't think it's going to end up being an across the board tax is delusional.

>>545616505
>t. would vote yes on mutilation surgery for kids
Die, monster.

>>545615849
pretty clear evidence that this election didn't have anything to do with trannies and it was about the massive disapproval for trumps war for israel.

>>545616618
Yes to ban it, you concussed orangutan.

>>545616589
>Their STATE constitutions retard
That was my second sentence.
>Do you want me to show you?
Yes please. What clauses of the Colorado, Washington, and Arizona state constitutions say these laws are unconstitutional?

>>545616618
The ones that play on the sports teams usually still have a penis so you are conflating another issue. It's honestly hilarious and fuck pointless women sports anyways.

>>545616216
It illustrates the power of words: "gender affirming surgery" make castration sound like good childcare. "Affirmative action" makes racial discrimination sound legitimate.

>>545616512
Their constitutions literally say you can't discriminate on the basis of transgender status.

>Article XXXI, Section 1 of the Washington Constitution, adopted in 1972, states:
>Equality of rights and responsibility under the law shall not be denied or abridged on account of sex. - Washington

>Article II, Section 29 — Equality of the Sexes (1972):
>Equality of rights under the law shall not be denied or abridged by the state of Colorado or any of its political subdivisions on account of sex. - Colorado

>Section 36(A) — Preferential treatment or discrimination prohibited
>This state shall not grant preferential treatment to or discriminate against any individual or group on the basis of race, sex, color, ethnicity or national origin in the operation of public employment, public education or public contracting. - Arizona

>Article I, Section 30 — Discrimination or Grant of Preferential Treatment Prohibited
>The state shall not discriminate against, or grant preferential treatment to, any individual or group on the basis of race, sex, color, ethnicity, or national origin in the operation of public employment, public education, or public contracting. - Nebraska

>>545616609
>Anyone who doesn't think it's going to end up being an across the board tax is delusional.
I agree, but it was dumb to hold the vote now during what was obviously going to be a blue midterm. They should have waited till 2028 and let the legislature make it obvious that the tax would be expanded.

>>545616216
It's Colorado, dumb goy. White Lib central. It's probably one of the most pro-troon states in terms of popular opinion.

>>545615849
Loony Troons are annoying and unhinged maniacs. Nobody wants them.

>>545616156
This piece of legislation means literally nothing. Nobody gives a damn about gender-affirming surgery for minors. Gender-affirming hormone therapy for minors is the big divide. Some say letting professionals work without government intervention using observable evidence demonstrating the efficacy of outcome-based treatment protocols is best, others say the thought of people doing what they want is icky and they want to prohibit people from making their own goddamned decisions.

>>545616769
I think the dumb Luloid confused what yes and no meant, so he thinks I want to protect le heckin' women's sports but am perfectly fine with chopping away at willies.

>>545616812
>Their constitutions literally say you can't discriminate on the basis of transgender status.
Not a single clause you've listed says anything about transgender status. If banning biological men from competing in women's sports is sex based discrimination against biological men, then having women's sports in the first place would be unconstitutional.

>>545616742
Awful wording, nigger. And awful comparison too. The referendums on abortion in red states were pretty different than this. To make matters worse, Democrats reshaped their messaging to drop anti-ICE and tranny slop months before the midterms, and shifted it to affordability, healthcare and defunding the Iran war.

>>545616968
41% doesn't lie. It's only "efficacious" if you ignore the fact that the vast majority of trannies get immediately abandoned and ostracized by normal people and often even their own family members.

This is real btw, to justify gender affirming care they have to explicitly ignore "external consequences" as they call them aka actual consequences. It's like saying it's a good thing to rob a bank if you ignore the fact that I'll go to prison.

>>545617033
>Not a single clause you've listed says anything about transgender status.
Oh you about to get fucking steam rolled bitch.

The Bostock Supreme Court ruling said "sex" applies to gender identity and gender expression.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bostock_v._Clayton_County

>f banning biological men from competing in women's sports is sex based discrimination against biological men, then having women's sports in the first place would be unconstitutional.

That's it's own argument. As long as women's sports exist, you can't ban trans women from there. by definition.

>>545617033
I mean, yes? It is discrimination against biological men.

"Women's Sports" as a concept are a woke imposition, and I see no reason why woke should not be besotten with more woke.

I Heil Estrogen, CracKKKa.

>>545616968
I mean, for the record, I'd probably put the AoC for hormones at like 16 or something. Maximum rage from both sides of the aisle o algx.

>>545616968
>Nobody gives a damn about gender-affirming surgery for minors.
47,9% of CO voted in favor of underaged kids becoming mutilated trannies being legal under their state constitution.

>>545617330
Do you think a 16 year old as no agency over their own bodies?

>>545617299
>The Bostock Supreme Court ruling said "sex" applies to gender identity and gender expression
Two things.

1) The Bostock Ruling was a Supreme Court interpretation of the Federal Title VII statute. It has no bearing at all on how the state Supreme Courts will rule.

2) Google West Virginia v B.P.J. the same Supreme Court that wrote Bostock also held that sports teams structured around biological sex were perfectly fine.

>>545617515
Where do you draw the line in the sand about having agency to remove your dick or your tits as a teenager?

>>545617299
>>f banning biological men from competing in women's sports is sex based discrimination against biological men, then having women's sports in the first place would be unconstitutional.
>That's it's own argument. As long as women's sports exist, you can't ban trans women from there. by definition.
??
this statement is saying that since women's sports already exist, banning biological men from them is not sex-based discrimination under title VII and is totally fine
which is the opposite of what you said

>>545617233
That is a social consequence imposed by people like you for other reasons to enforce a social taboo against transition for various other reasons, NOT an inherent consequence of the physical act of taking hormones.

If a Brandonian death squad beat you up for being a chud, would you say being a chud is inherently harmful to yourself, or would you call it authoritarian repression of dissent?

>>545617152
No, they still hate ICE, and most of them low-key heil Transgender for Everybody.

Also these are the exact same as the abortion votes: hold a citizen referendum on the other party's most unpopular social policy in order to mog them and drive up turnout.

>>545617515
No, see >>545617317. I also generally think children and teens have far less freedom than they should have even outside of trans stuff, and that this problem is getting worse.

The all-encompassing tyranny of Family Values is unironically a large part of why the Third World is Like That, and it must be fought here.

>>545617789
yes I would because I understand the societal consequences are just as significant if not more significant consequences. I legit don't get what you aren't understanding. You can't force people to like trannies. They overwhelmingly don't like trannies. Blatantly ignoring the fact that becoming a tranny will cause massive social problems for you in the long term is fragrantly immoral and manipulative. Gender affirming care kills more than it saves.

>>545617299
>As long as women's sports exist, you can't ban trans women from there. by definition.
Also, this is an actual 70IQ attempt at an argument.

>>545617897
I mean, you should get due and honest warning if you end up a hon, but that is as much a reason to demand you cease that hostile behavior towards trannies yourself.

Unless you have some non-recursive reason for desiring to prevent troonouts.

>>545617789
the long-term problem with giving kids more autonomy (which they rationally/ethically should probably have) is that being unable to dictate and mold a child's life makes the act of raising a child less appealing... causing lower birthrates
you are basically asking people to have kids, fully support them, give them little social/financial support in return (at least in America) and at the end of all this have no control over the kid's life and whether or not they will turn out to be a little chud or a little tranny or whatever

>>545615849
Only the far left cares about gender theorists. Other Democrats think they are creepy just like everyone else.

>>545615849
>>545616317
Its the religious Catholic Hispanic vote. This really isnt that difficult guys. Use your big boy brains.

>>545618120
...so is demanding massively excessive amounts of time and attention per child from the parents. If anything, the higher of a fraction of free time children demand, the more TFR has gone _down_.

(Gen X was "latchkey" because Boomers became two-income households, which is why I said "as a fraction of free time"; the mother has a lot less free time if she works.)

>>545617789
>No, they still hate ICE
They always phrase it like "Abolish *Trump's* ICE" which makes it clear once they're back in power they'll just say Trump no longer being in charge of them is change enough.

>>545615849
they basically have

>>545618320
They'll probably also rename and purge it, given how often they claim it was invented in the Bush II admin (ignoring INS).

>>545618408
Ironically the guy who shot Renee Good was hired under the Obama admin.

>>545617897
> Gender affirming care kills more than it saves.
wrong retard. it does. transphobia kills. you are apply causation to where it doesn’t apply. gender affirming care doesn’t kill lives

>>545616812
Laughable that trannys still have faith in the courts after they got wrecked in Georgia State Court, the Supreme Court, and the courts in the UK. Good luck trying to play your little word games in front of a judge like you do in social media.

>>545616393
T H I S
H
I
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It literally could not matter less.

>>545618082
trans women are legally women. you are saying women can’t play women’s sports. that’s a contradiction

>>545618494
I mean, Tom Homan was promoted to leadership under Obama too, lol.

>>545618582
These are blue state courts, wildly different venue and appointers.

>>545617789
>No, they still hate ICE, and most of them low-key heil Transgender for Everybody.
They do hate ICE and love tranny slop, yes. They just hid it and didn’t run on it, but chose to buy ads and route Super PAC money to other issues. Basically, their political consultants did their homework and read the room: anti-immigration is popular with independents and moderate Democrats. So they just gaslit people with ads on healthcare and affordability while running somalis, sandniggers and DSA freaks.

>Also these are the exact same as the abortion votes: hold a citizen referendum on the other party's most unpopular social policy in order to mog them and drive up turnout.
I understand the resemblance you’re seeing, but there are crucial differences. Foid turnout didn’t impact elections in red states due to abortion being on the ballot. Now, propositions banning pro-tranny issues like trannies in women’s “sports” and tranny mutilation of minors are actually effective and delivering results against leftist tranny hysteria. In a similar way, several states voted to enshrine voter ID requirements on their state constitutions yesterday. Those propositions have real life positive effects, unlike the pro-abortion propositions being in the ballots of red states before Roe got scraped.

>>545618369
A lot have resorted to trying to weasel out by saying "I don't think it should be a government decision, it should be up to the leagues" which is incredibly disingenuous because (1) it is apparently the literal only issue a lot of Democrats are libertarians on and (2) Title 9 requires schools to have men and women sports, and the idea government should mandate women's sports, but leave it up to the schools to define what a woman is, is insane.

>>545618663
>trans women are legally women
Trans women are still required to sign up for selective service. So no, they are still legally viewed as men.

>>545618249
I seriously doubt that. Spics were very pro-Democrat yesterday, and it was probably White men’s votes breaking big against those tranny propositions that got trannies defeated.

The myth of the “Catholic Hispanic” (lol) vote has to go. Spics only vote right-wing when leftists fuck up inflation and affordability like Biden did.

>>545616397
>Because it (for now) only applies to millionaires
I hate reruns

>>545618663
>magic paper says testicles and ovaries are the same thing
lol
lmao

>>545618845
selective service isn’t a birth certificate

>>545618708
The line swing/red state dems took was that they opposed internal enforcement but wanted a sealed border.

Also that libfoid turnout is why 2022 wasn't a pro-GOP blowout. The rest of this paragraph seems to be AI slop about how fighting trannies is good but abortion is bad so they can't be the same.

(for the record, genital inspection in sports and feticide are both bad.)

>>545617515
Yes. There is in 99.9999% of cases no reason to lop a dick or tits off.
If you want to wear dresses go for it. Keep your dick. Simple.

>>545619053
>Also that libfoid turnout is why 2022 wasn't a pro-GOP blowout.
I wasn’t aware of that.

>The rest of this paragraph seems to be AI slop about how fighting trannies is good but abortion is bad so they can't be the same.
Meds. Genuinely.

the great tranny genocide of 2026.

>>545618966
Yes. Which goes to show changing your birth certificate doesn't actually change your sex, legally, biologically, any other way. There's a reason trans women are still sent to male prisons regardless of what it says on your birth certificate.

>>545619094
> Keep your dick. Simple.
its up to the individual. most countries require surgery for a legal sex chan

>>545619182
texas is trans safe haven now.

>>545618667
Courts are still bound by rules. They are political, but only to a certain extent. They are also wary of going against the public. Judges can easily get voted out of office if they stray too far.

>>545619297
YNBAW

>>545619189
No, HRT changes some biological expressions of sex via hormonal changes. It's imperfect, variable and not total, but the changes are real and biological.

The reason troons are sent to moid prisons is that the system doesn't seem to care that they'll be used as rapemeat fleshlights. They should be given their own segregated troon wards.

>>545619297
>texas is trans safe haven now.
Republicans still hold the state senate so not a single preexisting law is getting changed.

>>545619189
> There's a reason trans women are still sent to male prisons regardless of what it says on your birth certificate.
that is not accurate. its not 100% of time. prisons do it based on case by case safety not sex assigned at birth. no us state has a blanket rule that all assigned at birth must go to that prison

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>>545617299
> the Court held that Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 protects employees against discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation or gender identity.
>EMPLOYEES
So no bearing on student sports.

>>545615849
Tranny terrorists are going to chimp out aren’t they?

>>545615849
Dems are occupied by commies who don't actually want to fix anything and don't even really care if they win. Commies push this shit because it's demoralizing. Their only real goal is fucking things up because they think if things get fucked up enough then people will finally have a glorious communist revolution and they'll get to run the communal library/teahouse.

If the Democratic party wants to win it has to purge its radicals. Republicans are in the midst of coming to accept this about themselves right now. The electorate is tired, boss.

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>>545619377
>No, HRT changes some biological expressions of sex
Utter self-delusion. Taking hormones and inverting your dick doesn't actually make you a woman. Just like a brunette bleaching her hair doesn't actually make her a blonde.

>>545618845
>Trans women are still required to sign up for selective service. So no, they are still legally viewed as men.
Trump banned trannies from the military though?

Nebraska also banned trannies in sports even the 65%+ Democrat areas in Lincoln and Omaha voted for it

>>545616589
>>545616812
Washington has a history of ignoring our state constitution. See: our new gun laws and income tax. We also have a history of our representatives ignoring the outcome of votes like these, like the $20 car tabs we votes for and then were told "they didnt actually understand what they were voting for so we're gonna ignore this".

>>545619583
Yes but they still have to register.

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kill trannies. behead trannies. roundhouse kick trannies in the face. beat trannies faces in with a ball peen hammer.

can you really compare a trans women who underwent HRT prior to puberty and preventing their own puberty as a child and than receiving gender affirming surgery as an adult is the same as a biological man?

>>545619443
>no us state has a blanket rule that all assigned at birth must go to that prison
Literally most US states have that exact rule.

>>545615849
The progressive can never accept a reversal of progress.

>>545616047
colorado has the broncos to preserve

>>545616156
The right wants to bomb children. That is more evil

>>545619843
>can you really compare a biological man to a biological man
Obviously yes. The fact that one has artificially given himself certain feminine characteristics doesn't change that.

>>545619973
except trans women are biological women. they have changed their chemical and surgical make up to be women. If you have SRS and have a vagina that gives the same natural luberation as a regular vagina, it's a vagina.

These laws do not take into account SRS or HRT, which is why all of them should be disregarded. It's ban poorly written legislation that voters were tricked into voting for by Elon Musk.

>>545615849
Colorado banned surgery for minors, which is exceedingly rare already. Not all gender affirming care.

>>545619554
I said "changes some biological expressions of sex" not "makes you a woman". You become some kind of inbetween-creature in practice upon trooning out.

Kind of based in a proto-transhumanist semi-nietzchean way, like a flawed prototype you'd see in a museum and ask "How the hell did people ride in that thing?" about.

>>545620160
>Not all gender affirming care.
because it's unconstitutional.

>>545619843
I would go further: a transgender who spent years on HRT as an adult is not the same as a biological man. Not the same as a biological woman, either.

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>>545620105
>If you have SRS and have a vagina
They don't have a vagina. They don't have a uterus. They don't have ovaries. They don't have a female bone structure, musculature, or skin texture. All they have is some expensive surgeries and expensive prescription supplements.

>>545620156
>that voters were tricked into voting for by Elon Musk
Pretty odd how Elon Musk was able to trick people into voting for this, but not able to trick people into voting for Republicans.

>>545620299
are you denying the neovaginia of a trans women doesn't have self lubercation and gives the same pleasure as a regular vaginia.

>>545620105
Call me when they can get pregnant and carry a child to term. Until then, they can't even be said to have the same capabilities and outcomes of a healthy woman of their age, let alone the same internals.

They're stuck in the median in the middle of the highway, wandering around, as far as biological sex goes.

This reminds me how California voted against gay marriage the same day they (and 60% of the country) voted for Obama. The courts will block this shit, trannies will protest, more pro-tranny propaganda will be pulled and people will forget this ever happened just like they forgot Proposition 8 happened.

>>545620450
Prop 8 was literally unconstitutional.

>>545620410
I can promise you not a single person defines a woman based on how lubricating their vagina is. Can a tranny's vagina give birth?

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>>545615849
Pretend that people weren't voting against Trump and was voting for the woke to intensify and act surprise when they get a red tsunami right after the blue one

>>545620413
so let's just stop splitting hairs.

trans women should be allowed in women's sports
minors should be allowed to undergo gac
sex based facilities should allow trans women.

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>>545616353
>1. They were lied too by Elon Musk.
>2. They are unconstitutional and will be struck dow- ACK!

>>545620526
>Can a tranny's vagina give birth?
Not all women are fertile.... Alot of naturally infertile.

Are those women not women now?

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>>545616353
>let biological males beat up girls
I only support it when the families of the girl who loses is against letting troons compete in womens sports

>>545616393
yeah it isn't controversial anymore, it's just banned ;) you lost tranny.

>>545620684
>yeah it isn't controversial anymore, it's just banned ;) you lost tranny.
you can't. the legislature will overturn it.

>>545617233
Doctors do consider the gestalt of each case. When parental support is not guaranteed, that cost is weighed against the benefits. The point is that experts understand this (or they are supposed to, anyway) better than politicians and the general population. We are in need of a greater quantity of specialists on this topic, but for some reason the field of study is being used as a political bludgeon. People from different backgrounds have vastly different opinions about this topic, so it is really useful for politicians to choose their voters.

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>>545620751
>you can't!!!! the legislature will overturn it!!!

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>>545615849
Troons will get memoryhole’d.
Dems are shifting into latinx politics mode.

For the troons who are politically illiterate, latinx politics is overwhelmingly social conservative, economic left.
Aka the spics will ban you from ever talking to kids while also taxing you to pay for their gibs, and their kid’s gibs. No gibs for your HRT though, that’ll be some of the first stuff to be cut.
Enjoy your political homelessness and fell for it awards

>>545619937
Factually wrong, pedo. Stay away from children’s private parts

This leftist gender bullshit is just fucking ridiculous and should not even be an issue.Why it is even relevant with all the real problems this country has is laughable....The dems truly are deranged faggots...

>>545620631
>Not all women are fertile
Do all women's vagina's self-lubricate?

The fact that some womenhave genetic conditions making them infertile does not change the fact that their natural biology, functioning properly, would allow them to give birth. Not so for trannies.

>>545620931
>.Why it is even relevant with all the real problems this country has is laughable
You are the ones bringing it up, not democrats. That's why you lost yesterday.

>>545621057
>That's why you lost yesterday
Clearly it's not that, considering trannies also lost big yesterday.

>>545620931
Nah, even most dems don't want any part of this shit. That's why trannies are losing.

>>545620931
This Republican gender bullshit is just fucking ridiculous and should not even be an issue. Why it is even relevant with all the real problems this country has is laughable... The conservatives are truly deranged MAGATs...

Take a look at who put those issues on a ballot in the first place. This was an "issue" constructed by Republicans that has the attention of Republicans, including you.

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>>545619547
>Republicans are in the midst of coming to accept this about themselves right now
MAGA was in no way, shape, or form extreme. The entire platform was built around securing US borders, enforcing US immigration law, developing US energy resources, keeping the US out of new wars, securing US elections, modernizing and streamlining the Federal bureaucracy, and cleaning up and beautifying the Federal District and begin building monuments again...... this is literally what Trump ran on; again it was in no way shape or form extremist.

Trump largely delivered on his campaign promises. He 100% secured the border. He began aggressive enforcement of US immigration policy, he ended regulations and drilling restrictions and fast tracked every single midstream license that was in the Federal queue, he streamlined the Federal bureaucracy and fired hella adult daycare retards, he cleaned up Washington DC (as well as several other cities such as Memphis TN) and began a monument and park clean up beautification project and scheduled several monuments to be built.

Trump failed to get Thune to pass the SAVE act , and successfully primaried a few on the Senators standing in the way of it; so if Trump got more Senators elected last night he would have gotten it passed. The ONE big thing that Trump didnt deliver on was no new wars, but the conflict in Iran isnt even a fucking war it was a bombing campaign. Gas prices went up a little and people chimped the fuck out like Trump did fuck all in his first 20 months.

So if MAGA was extremist then I dont know what the fuck extremism even means. What the fuck does non-extremism look like? Amnesty, open borders, trans kids, DEI, and World War vs Russia instead of Iran?!?!?

The US electorate just likes to do this shit during mid terms, its fucking retarded; its happened to almost every good US President at least one time; his party getting kicked out of the Legislature.

>>545619445
Student athletes are employees now, anon. Where have you been the last 7 or 8 years?

>>545621113
>Clearly it's not that, considering trannies also lost big yesterday.
they didn't. they were lied to by Elon Musk at the ballot. Ballot measures lie all the time and have vague ballot wording.

>>545621185
>Trump largely delivered on his campaign promises.
that's why he lost yesterday and eveyrone said he didn't.

>>545621155
>Makes up that people can change from a man to a woman.
>Requires it to be featured prominently in media and even school curriculum.
>Says you are ridiculous about gender bullshit.
You lost tranny.

>>545621185
>. The ONE big thing that Trump didnt deliver on was no new wars, but the conflict in Iran isnt even a fucking war it was a bombing campaign.
IT'S NOT A WAR BECAUSE I SAID SO, LIBYA IS A WAR UNDER OBAMA DOU

>>545615849
Is this really your only win?

>>545621155
If it's not an issue then shut up about it and keep the ban. Follow your own advice and move on to more important issues.
But you're not going to because you do actually care like the retard you are. YWNBAW

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>>545621155
>Why it is even relevant with all the real problems this country has is laughable
Troon shit shouldnt be an issue but of course greedy narcisstic rainbow faggots dont know when to stop such as trans surgery for kids, and boys started competing in girls sports and it pissed people off. Nobody had a problem with troon shit when it was just a few adult retards living their fetish lifestyle. When it became a social hysteria and schools began forcing it on kids.... yeah THEN it became a problem.

Nobody cares about what adults do, but faggots just cant leave kids alone; and disingenuous faggots like yourself going "huh, what? why do you care so much?!?!?" and pretending like you dont get it arent fooling anybody.

Stop blaming Republicans when you are getting your shit pushed in, in BLUE states during a BLUE wave retard.

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>>545621363
>they were lied to by Elon Musk at the ballot. Ballot measures lie all the time and have vague ballot wording.
Please be specific. What about the ballot wording was vague or dishonest? People understood these issues perfectly, you just don't like how absurdly unpopular your position is.

>>545621559
>BLUE wave retard.
If everyone was fine under Trump, won't there be a red wave right now? if he followed though with everything he said.

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>>545621512
>Is this really your only win?
More or less lol. Gotta take your Ws where you can.

>>545615849
>>545616047
I'm in Washington.
I voted for this.

>>545621733
>Please be specific. What about the ballot wording was vague or dishonest? People understood these issues perfectly, you just don't like how absurdly unpopular your position is.

SRS and HRT and testosterone testing isn't mentioned once.

Olympic sports for decades has had testosterone levels testing for sports. I can't take any of this seriously if he doesn't mention this.

>>545621812
Straight dem ticket

>>545615849
The republican party is the troon party now.

>>545621432
The Republicans poured money into this issue, actually. Walmart, Target, and all of the other "trans-friendly" businesses dropped all of their ties to the cause the minute it was socially unfavorable. The conspiracy you see is just the ebb and flow of a social phenomenon.

And I don't remember losing. Did you see what happened?

>>545621543
The ban means nothing, as I said. It's a fake issue and the result means nothing. I'm disputing that this says anything about leftism because the whole point of this policy wasn't to ban something (it wasn't happening, after all) it was to power the fearmongering.

>>545621559
Projection. The issue, as I already stated, doesn't exist. Who is bringing children into this conversation? Republicans.

>>545621830
>SRS and HRT and testosterone testing isn't mentioned once.
What? Why would they need to be mentioned if they're irrelevant to the law? SRS and HRT have no bearing on biological sex.

The proposal was
>if you're a biological man, you cannot compete in women's sports
Simple. That's what was proposed, that's what was described on the ballot. People voted yes.

>>545621830
No one takes seriously people who believe testosterone levels are of any relevance for comparing males and females. Male bone structure, muscle density and skeletal geometry matter, not current testosterone level. Your bullshit is done. Everyone understands but you. It's over.

>>545622047
that's a blanket categorical ban, with not exceptions. Follow what the Olympic rules on testosterone level testing was.

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>>545622033
>The issue, as I already stated, doesn't exist
Ok retard if no trans surgeries where happening to minors, and boys werent competing in girls sports then dont worry about it something was banned that isnt happening so you dont have to worry about it.

>>545616968
Most children denied “treatment” do not troon out as adults.

The british puberty blocker ban did not cause suicides.

>>545622033
You lost the thing we are talking about. In blue states during a blue tsunami. Even all those corporations are out. It is a gigantic era defining loss for trannyism. Whatever the revolution does next, they will be minimizing trannies in every way possible and attempting to erase them.

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>>545622115
>No one takes seriously people who believe testosterone levels are of any relevance for comparing males and females. Male bone structure, muscle density and skeletal geometry matter, not current testosterone level. Your bullshit is done. Everyone understands but you. It's over.
Are you purposely being deceptive?

Pic related. The Ms. Olympia, best female bodybuilder on earth, has more defined biceps than the Mr. Olympia, best male bodybuilder on earth.

>>545622227
>that's a blanket categorical ban, with not exceptions
Yes, that was the proposed policy, that was how the proposed policy was described. It passed.
>Follow what the Olympic rules on testosterone level testing was.
First, who gives a fuck what the Olympics were doing, second, "was," they changed it to a blanket ban.

>>545622354
You have to be baiting at this point, no one's this retarded.

>>545615849
I could get into democracy if they mutilize the trannies off

>>545622307
>It is a gigantic era defining loss for trannyism
It's not. Are you saying those Democrats in Texas and other states are gonna throw their voters on the bus?

>>545622364
>they changed it to a blanket ban.
UNDER PRESSURE FROM THE TRUMP ADMINSTRATION YOU FUCKING PIEVCE OF SHIT

>>545622354
>The purposely deceptive guy asks if I'm being purposively deceptive as part of his purposeful deception.
Nice try tranny. My point stands.

>>545622422
>You have to be baiting at this point, no one's this retarded.
Most female bodybuilders are on average stronger than 99% of cis men. I am so sick of hearing of weak females. Women in sports are stronger than average men.

>>545615849
>How will the Democrats treat these issues going forward? If, even in already very blue
There will be a jewish judge that rules these referenda unconstitutional, and their results will be invalidated.

>>545622354
what do these roided out freaks have to do with anything he said?
do you honestly think that going on HRT for a few years is going to make 6'5" 300lbs saffron smith the MtF rugby player perform like a woman with two X chromosomes?
if so, lmao
you know nothing about athletics or biology

Any gender affirming care ban should come coupled with a circumsicion ban

>>545622115
?@!??!?#@

Never before have I seen someone so mistaken that they have an invented consensus entirely divorced from reality. Testosterone doesn't affect physical performance? It's time to go home. Go on home now! Go home!

>>545622228
Exactly. I won't worry about it. But you should know that whoever wrote that law was pulling your prick. Just thought I'd help you out.

>>545622307
Doesn't look like it to me. I'm sitting pretty here in Missouri. Amendment 3 went my way.
You probably didn't even know about that; there is a lot of bad news for conservatives to sift through.

>>545622435
>Are you saying those Democrats in Texas and other states are gonna throw their voters on the bus?
Of course not anon. No politician EVER broke a promise once they got in office.

>>545622435
Yes. Throwing voters under the bus is all and everything they do, just like the others. Cutting trannies loose is easy since, as is so often pointed out, it's really not anything that matters, just .05% or something.

>>545622632
>what do these roided out freaks have to do with anything he said?
>do you honestly think that going on HRT for a few years is going to make 6'5" 300lbs saffron smith the MtF rugby player perform like a woman with two X chromosomes?
>if so, lmao
>you know nothing about athletics or biology

The point I'm getting out is steroids are required in all sports, so it's ridiculous to say there is any kind of "advance" here. Men and women take steroids the same when competing in sports, hence the women and male bodybuilders.

>>545622756
>Cutting trannies loose is easy since, as is so often pointed out, it's really not anything that matters, just .05% or something.
Most Democrats support tarnnies. My boomer parents are Democrats and they are 100% behind everything pro-tranny.

>>545622705
>Testosterone doesn't affect physical performance?
Are you illiterate? That's not what he said at all, he said testosterone is not the arbiter of deciding if someone is a man or a woman.

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Are the dems finally dropping the faggotry?

>>545622705
>Testosterone doesn't affect physical performance?
the anti-trans people have to wrap themselves in pretzels to come to this.

>>545622927
But they won't notice when they disappear.

>>545623004
my state, PA, just want Democrat controlled fully for first time since 1993. You can bet they are gonna make trans rights a center piece of their policy.

>>545622880
>Men and women take steroids the same when competing in sports, hence the women and male bodybuilders.
if roiding equalized performance between sexes why are there no women competing in the NBA, NFL or NHL or in the top levels of non-team sports like tennis and golf?
they'd get paid a lot more if they did

>>545615849
Thank goodness y'all showed those 2 or 3 weirdos that they have to get a different hobby. I bet all three of them will be really pissed off while they're learning calligraphy

>>545623116
>if roiding equalized performance between sexes why are there no women competing in the NBA, NFL or NHL or in the top levels of non-team sports like tennis and golf?
>they'd get paid a lot more if they did
idk, I think NBA and NFL fund women's sports.

Maybe ban women's sports and get the women to play with men?

I think democrats will move on away from troons rights desu. Most people have realized it was fucking crazy. My guess is they will focus on other issues

>>545622959
You should have double checked before replying, buddy-boy. Click on my reply link and then hover over his reply link and read what it says.

>>545623228
>My guess is they will focus on other issues
not focusing doesn't mean trans rights just magically end.

What does "focusing on other issues" mean?

>>545617515
shut up pedo your clearly LGBT

>>545623094
They won't. What rights? They aren't going to bless chopping the dicks and tits off kids. They aren't going to force locker room and bathroom stuff. Trannies already have the right to not be hunted in the streets like animals, sadly.

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Doesn't the Washington law literally require pelvic exams before being allowed to play sports?
I can't imagine ANY way this will be abused.

>>545623194
>Maybe ban women's sports and get the women to play with men?
Female professional athletes regularly lose to high school, and sometimes even middle school, boys

>>545623417
>What rights?
Employment discrimination
Housing discrimination
Public accommodations
Education discrimination
Credit discrimtinion

>>545623518
Trans people already have all of those rights.

>>545623518
That is already how things are. Everyone has that already. You have to say you fired or evicted fags and trannies for no reason in particular. If you say you did it because they are fags and trannies you get sued.

>>545623323
They care more now about appeasing muslims. I don’t think it will be a top 5 issue. They know if they go right back to the way things were before then people will quickly flip back to republicans in 2028, they now have a vested interest in maintaining power and troons are not a big voting base. I’m sure we will probably get illegals getting amnesty, more muslims and more spics…I can’t say for sure but specifically troon shit seems played out. Trump just had a big hallowing party with drag queens dancing. I could be wrong but I think they will focus more on other more fruitful endeavors.

>>545615849
Legitimately how is the makeup of a middle school soccer team a state level issue needing to be codified into law?
Why do boomers love fascism so much?

>>545623481
I am available to inspect the pelvis of young females. But, no fat chicks.

>>545623194
>idk, I think NBA and NFL fund women's sports
because women are not capable of competing atheltically with men at the highest level, so they cannot be professional athletes without having their own league
there is no actual restriction on women playing in any professional sport which is why in things like motorsports where they are somewhat competitive, they do show up (but even there, they are not able to comptete in the most elite series, for example in formula 1)
even in endurance running where male size and muscle mass is less important women are still slower than men at all distances up to the marathon

>>545623581
> Trans people already have all of those rights.
they do?

>>545623893
People are tired of your transparent, slimy disingenuous faggotry.

>>545623893
Because it is so obviously rediculous to allow boys to compete in girls sports that the fact the schools themselves didn't shut it down made people want to pass a law. That's democracy in action.
>Why do boomers love fascism so much?
Why do leftists call everything they don't like fascism?

>>545624029
shut up leaf

>>545624084
> Why do leftists call everything they don't like fascism?
do you think libertarians are leftists?

>>545623893
It’s an issue because you Freaks make it one. Nobody likes you Troon Clowns. Some of them pretended to care about you for a while, but you were such obnoxious annoying faggots, that people stopped caring.

>>545615849
>>545616047
Honestly I was shocked Prop 134 and 135 passed in CO at all. Pleasant surprise.

>>545624147
Do you think everyone who supports Title 9 is a fascist?

>>545622487
>UNDER PRESSURE FROM THE TRUMP ADMINSTRATION YOU FUCKING PIEVCE OF SHIT
Who cares? The voters voted for it. They want it that way.

>>545624147
You hate White people you faggot shill. Your game is up. Politics is race and you are on the side of kikes.

>>545624458
i support title 9, for all women, including trans women

>>545624754
> Politics is race
is that why you had a black guy in florida and indian in ohio? not really rebuilding the SS there.

>>545624877
You deserve to be KOS kike. Denounce the talmud.

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>>545620684
>you lost tranny.

>>545624925
>can’t respond
you elected a darkie as governor in florida. nice job, celtus

>Colorado votes to ban ghosts
Oh no, anyway.

>>545625168
you elected darkies jeets and jews all over the country last night

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>>545615849
Don't be too French-Revolution two party model fake and gay, for that is exactly what (((The Enemy's))) uniparty is for. Their voters are all condemned to lose 100% of their minds to it's slow, (((satanic))) ritual murder.

>>545620573
Yes, No, Depends on the facility (no for a prison (there should be special trans wards), yes for a bathroom).

They're not in MANsas anymore.

>>545623760
There are probably more self-identified "trans" people in the US than Muslims.

Though this includes self-declared "nonbinary" people who don't medically transition anything.

>>545624223
Don't complain when the specter of normiesadism comes for you, too.

>>545616439
same goes for bombing a little girls school in Iran

>>545615849
These numbers are closer than they should be. I remember similar votes on gay marriage 20 years ago and it has majority support.
In ten years the troons may be winning these votes.

>>545616812
>on account of sex

Yeah they're taking a persons sex into account as a given immutable thing. Not ignoring it and making it a situational concept that can be changed at will.