Now that the dust has settled, I think the most corrosive and self-destructive element from the conservative right was to encourage young white men NOT to go to college. And this is because College is the gateway into real institutional power. For the past 10+ years white men were encouraged by older white men in conservative circles to skip college. Its all woke nonsense, college degrees are worthless anyway, and you should get a local blue-collar job instead. Dont you know its "honorable" to dig a ditch with illiterate Guatemalan illegal immigrants for $15 and hour working 12 hour days?We need to start encouraging zoomers and gen alpha white kids to do well in highschool, get into a good college, and get into positions of influence in finance, media, tech, entertainment, and probably most importantly politics.
College is still a scam.
>>545647992College is a scam in the same way home ownership is a scam. Of course the woke goblins going into massive debt to study fake degrees, the forced diversity quotas (which were struck down by the sc), and the infinite loans you cant get out of all suck. Its also a scam if they treat it as adult day camp and just spend all their time getting drunk/high and trying to fuck sorority slutsBut if a young white man is smart, did well in highschool, and goes on to study something that actually has a viable future then it makes no sense not too. ESPECIALLY if he is able to receive state or other scholarships to pay for school or is lucky enough to have parents willing to pay for it.
>>545647901>positions of influence in finance, media, tech, entertainment, and probably most importantly politics.You don't get these things by going to college though, only through auditioning with a well-funded PAC or through family connection; usually both.If we want the us government to be anti-jews, anti-feminists, anti-nigger, etc. then we need to raise billions to achieve parity with the enemy. but most people are lazy and selfish, with no value for life and consciousness other than how many chuck-e-cheese IOU's are in their bank account. the only step forward is the coming population collapse as demographics and fiscal insolvency forces everyone to learn to actually survive or die
>>545648273And therein lies a problem. There are no white male college funds, there's now affirmative action for white men. So it's still a gamble especially with now hiring practices. White men are in the bottom of the list because of female HR managers. By going into trades that are male-dominated, you're only competing against other men, now still you'll compete against minorities, but that's not as bad as it's as competing against minorities and women. Or some BiPoc that get the gazillion points on their sat for spelling their name right. This coming from a high school dropout, who's done nothing but manual labor in his life, with a small chunk of land, and a small business.
>>545647901I think it was supporting zionists. 4chan gpt your opinion?
>>545647901College is still an indoctrination centerNot in a "they tell you what to think" wayThe danger is all the students who agree, and they encourage those students to use civil disobedience and even violence because the indoctrinated propaganda is "objectively the right side of history for smart people"
>DURRR HURR IT'S ACTUALLY DUH CONSERVATIVES FAULTS THAT MARXISTS SPEND THE PAST 80 YEARS INSTITUTIONALLY RIGGING UNIVERSITIES AGAINST NORMAL WHITE MENsure thing OP
>>545647901>get into positions of influence in finance, media, tech, entertainment, and probably most importantly politicsI agree with your general point that the trade meme was a psyop to get White men to proletarianize themselves, but positions of influence are only given out to people already in the club, or those groomed since childhood to be their slaves. The country is run by a generational insider network that considers you goyim. There is no meritocratic path to influence, only servitude to them.
>>545647901You’d be shocked if you knew how many of those millennial service workers you see in the world have college degrees… they’re worthless if the jobs aren’t there
>>545647901Plenty of them did but it didn't lead anywhere in most cases>>545648273>But if a young white man is smart, did well in highschool, and goes on to study something that actually has a viable future then it makes no sense not too. ESPECIALLY if he is able to receive state or other scholarships to pay for school or is lucky enough to have parents willing to pay for it.Those guys still attended college the last 10 years.>Its also a scam if they treat it as adult day camp and just spend all their time getting drunk/high and trying to fuck sorority slutsUnironically that is how you get a decent job after college. You still need to do well academically but partying is a requirement to landing the kind of jobs you're talking about.
>>545648610>There are no white male college fundsAre you expecting black women and asian men to set one up for you?
>>545647901ain't like they get hited anyway. the older white men that got pushed out of companies need to pick their bootstraps up and start companies to hire the young lost white men. Boomers are the first generation where they won't be in the elder roles of society, fuck, even in their own families
>>545648768Because college is daycare for young men so that they don’t put on brown shirts and start killing jews.Now that you put in 4 years and 50K in debt, you kind of need to find a job.
>>545647901>College is the gateway into real institutional power.Retard, if you want to be a pawn you should join the army and suck up to everyone there, once glowniggers recognize your capabilities as tool they will give you some fake achievements and send you to be a dildo boy for the government.This is literally how every neocon "made it".
>>545649042It's only indoctrination if you study something stupid like gender studies.
>>545649042So what? Just ignore you gay commie professors its that easy. I think this indoctrination thing is mostly another boomercon meme. The only people who this actually "works" on concerning white men is closeted gays/nerds from small hick towns who finally feel free to start wearing dresses and what not in a judgment free area.>>545648570>>545648610>>545649225I feel like this is mostly just defeatism cope. The idea that you will NEVER get anywhere because youre a white man just isnt true. Yes the cards are stacked against you, but most of the DEI policies in place concerning admission have been done away with. I mean the whole young right wing movement has been saying that they want to reorganize the republican party into an actual nationalist one some 5-10 years down the line, that they are tired of being sold out ect. Ok well this is the first step into actually being in a position to influence that yourselves. Why do you think capturing the university system and getting as many angry brown people into them was such a huge deal for the left? Because the university system was the gateway to instutional power no matter what anyone else says.
>>545649377>You still need to do well academically but partying is a requirement to landing the kind of jobs you're talking about.NETWORKING is indeed very important, but theres a huge line between this and flunking out bc all you do is snort coke and try to have sex with drunk sluts. >>545649550I know. Im an older millennial and I had to fight to revive our works paid internship program just to give college kids a head start. We even had an entry level position open and my boss actually wanted to hire an old retiree simply because "he was looking for something to do bc hes bored" and would take the lowest possible payment. Luckily I was able to convince him that this position would be a great start for a younger guys career.
>>545649666its not cope if its true. the majority of human being are just awful repulsive demons, healthy and intelligent aryan males are a permanent minority and allowing them to fix civilization is already known to be a threat to the very survival of all the parasites from top to bottom. at least they just want us to live our own lives out of politics>for now
>>545649666>most of the DEI policies in place concerning admission have been done away withHarvard just ignored that SCOTUS decision and continued doing affirmative action. Trump's DOJ sued, then a judge dismissed the case this month. You're either not paying attention or lying.
>>545651052yeah in terms of brochures or whatever showing diversity. Admission, the only thing that really matters was struck down by the Supreme Court and immediatly Harvard specifically saw a 20% drop in black enrollment while white enrollment increased by like 5%. I know thats not much, but this was right after the ruling. And Harvard isnt the only college in America either. The point is that this window has opened for white men to actually sieze some form of legit power and you guys are simply finding excuses to not do it.
>>545647901In the US the gateway to the elite is through senate and presidential campaigns. If you ask anyone white and male who's a lawyer at a fancy firm, a 4 star general, or media pundit, the answer is I worked at this guy's campaign, he became a senator, I got a letter to attend West point officer school or Harvard law school etc. Anyone good at fundraising quickly becomes some kind of essential political operative in DC too like a chief of staff. That's the easiest way any American can rise is to figure out how to maximize funds for campaigns. In my country when these fundraisers quit politics they are always assigned a patronage gig like dean of some grand university or the board of directors for some billion dollar foundation So:>Attend state school anywhere to get any Bachelor's >Spend all your summers working at political campaigns for 2028>Figure out new fundraising schemes or tech>Receive your letter from a senate office saying I endorse this kid as they were helpful and are of good character blah blah>Apply to Harvard/Yale law and instantly accepted with fully paid ride
>>545649666>545649225 #>I feel like this is mostly just defeatism copeRecommending men get good paying trade jobs and/or start their own business rather than give money to people that hate them is cope?Lmao. Sure. Sure.
>>545652048Go to college, get a stem PhD (they are free), then do a start-up. Maybe figure out how to get free undergrad in Europe because I've heard that's possible.
>>545647992I don't think it's an out and out scam bit it's certainly become more scam like in the last twenty years. The price has climbed to exorbitant levels while, at the same time, it's become less likely to provide graduates with any real advantages in the job market. There was a widespread belief towards the end of the 20th century that a college diploma was critical to success. While there is a measureable difference in the lifetime earnings of college grads compared to high school grade, the rise in the number of college grads and the cost of college have radically chipped away at the advantages.
>>545652535>Maybe figure out how to get free undergrad in EuropeOr don't because the cabal is about to force Europe into war with Russia.
>>545647901Well, this is very true. Also, there is an obvious and massive online project to convince young White men to never try at anything ever because they will be stopped by everyone and probably fail as well. Young White men have been taught learned helplessness and absolutely refuse to unlearn it.
>>545652841Huh, looks like the defeatists are already here.
>>545647901They tell guys not to go to college to get a useless degree. If they want to become professionals they can get a BA as a stepping stone to their JD but there's really no point in wasting 4 years you could be earning while paying out 80k a year. Life Sci, Engineering, Commerce, or in pursuit of an eventual professional accreditation (MD, CPA, JD, etc) is fine but don't bother wasting the money and opportunity cost for a generic BA.
>>545647901They need to reform academia and remove all useless grievance courses
>>545652969I sometimes wonder if there is a problem with having White men abandon the humanities.
>>545647901I agree. The propaganda against college is insane. They abandoned the universities and then wonder why all these young people are insanely left. They have no alternative and are filled with poison by their professors. Absolutely zero thought that differs from the liberal hivemind. Instead of forcing their way in the right would rather devalue college and pretend it doesn't exist. The youth and younger generations are all that matters and they let them go to these degree mill propaganda factories to be built up like good little leftist soldiers. And what does the right have? Some (not all) manual labor fags? Trade schools?
>>545647992Okay then you need to still worry about all the people who align with you who fell for the scam. Or scam the scam you need to instil your ideals to the people in the scam instead of one side monopolizing everything.
>>545649084There have been zero movements against it, there have been zero cultural pushes to end it. The right has done nothing so yeah, if you get stabbed but have amole tome to stop the knife from gutting you and you do nothing you are at fault in some capacity.
>>545653079They've been largely corrupted over the last 60 years or so. Even for history, the most conservative discipline, you get a large percentage of profs who proudly identify themselves as Marxist historians.
>>545653387So? And this will get fixed how?
>>545653155>Instead of forcing their way in the right would rather devalue college and pretend it doesn't exist.its pure sour grapes cope. I think this is what also led to the rise of the anti-intellectual schizo right as well. Our countries are being invaded by infinity foreiengers and instead of organizing to stop it the glorious trade school crowd would rather debate about how jews are hiding the truth about the flat earth from us because they just watch grifter slop on bitchute.
>>545651642For example Ted Cruz.Cruz travelled to Rotary and Kiwanis groups while in highschool and was involved in some free market debate society with other kids so that's how he got into Princeton as many political operatives are also rotary members and they recommended him. >>545652535It's mostly fiction as there's still dozens of fees to pay and cost of living will be high.>>545653079The best degree for white men is to take a degree in classics. You learn Latin/Ancient Greek and it was the traditional degree for the elites for 1000 years and still is. Classics is not history or Lit or any of those fake BAs. It is the study of Western civilization and human behaviour which has not changed. You also master the art of public speaking
I don't encourage skipping all college, just arts and the less employable variants of other degrees. An electrical engineer will be better off/have more influence than an electrician, but an electrician will be better off than 99.9% of sociology majors. There also needs to be some self reflection. Not everyone is built to be a doctor or engineer, and even if you forced yourself through school you'll be a miserable bitter fuck at your job. Some people greatly prefer doing hands on work. As a consumer I'd rather a honest white guy working on my house than some lying Jeet.
Its really more about NOT teaching young men to be self reliant FIRST, then get educated.
>>545647901You absolutely should not go to college. Colleges are the madrassas of liberalism. The sole reason college education got pushed so hard in the past decades is too prolong your exposure to the public education system. The longer you are exposed to their preaching, the more liberal you become, it has nothing to do with intelligence.You should read this book:archive.org/details/the-third-revolution_202606
>>545653536It won't but the good news is degrees outside of STEM are pretty much interchangeable and meaningless.
>>545653964what do you do for a living?
>>545647901Those degrees aren't worth the paper they're printed on.
>>545653692I wish I had done a degree in the classics. I did engineering instead, which was a great decision, but I should have also done a classics degree as well. Oh, such misspent youth.
College is fine if the young person has a full understanding of what they're getting into and makes it part of a larger life plan.Basically, if you're borrowing money to go then make sure that you're studying a subject that passes as vocational training. Easy examples would be law or medicine, since those set you up for good careers. If you take on huge loans then you're going to want a job at the end. Some subjects really don't have much of a career path other than becoming a professor of that subject. Women's studies is a pyramid scheme. Even some interesting topics, like history or philosophy, are not that great at leading to a career. People often study those topics then end up doing something unrelated as a career. Which is fine if you're rich, but be careful if you're borrowing enough money to buy a house.
>>545653387>history, the most conservative disciplinelol. LOL. god you idiots are so up your own ass.
>>545653564Many schools have pozzed their curriculum for example you take nothing but rabid leftist nonsense in first year courses even Calc 101 is pozzed now where they tell you as a white you killed all the poor natives and here was their "brilliant math" they pretend existed and downplay the genius of westerners like Newton. In Eng 101 you read stupid books about colonialism in Brazil and have to publish essays how bad whitey is. You should see how pozzed it all is but once you get out of first year it's mostly normal courses.For example CMU requires you to join a protest on campus to pass freshman orientation. No you can't join the Hitler did nothing wrong protest sadly
>>545647901if you broaden your intellectual horizons you will end up A) not a conservative anymore B) a sociopath hatchet man who operates for the conservative cause for the money (basically the entire establishment) or C) a moron who failed upwards and didn't learn anything (see GW Bush and Trump)so going to college is a tough one for you conservatives, it's a self defeating cycle that has largely played out institutionally already to get you into your current situation as a movement.
>>545647901The worst part about all of you is: you try in vain to “conserve” a ‘whiteness’ you never actually possessed.
>>545654222Most schools your tuition includes an entire semester in Greece where you get to bang Athens tittycows at the bars after class. Way better than any other degree plus you have unlimited options for Masters in Law or even med school though here in Canada noone white may go to medical school everyone instead goes to Ireland as a foreign student
>>545654440There is no broad horizon in a marxist college that purges itself of any trace of conservatism, masculinity, and traditionalism. You are all womanly retards.
>>545654440>>545654440>if you broaden your intellectual horizonsWorshipping women, jews and brown people is not "broadening your intellectual horizon", it's the opposite, the total collapse into meaningless savagery.
>>545654536>>545654745i'm willing to bet you haven't gone to college
>>545654904Well then your "broad intellectual horizon" has failed you this time, you brainlet.And I'm willing to bet that you are a salty leftist who just can't handle that normal people don't take your shitty marxist sociology degree seriously.
>THESE TEACHERS ARENT TELLING ME WHAT I WANT TO HEAR. COLLEGE IS POZZED.
My advice for any anons is no matter what undergrad you take get involved in research. Every professor has a research grant going on like building futuristic dbms, experimental physics, studying some ancient building materials, anything. If you get involved in that then you can convince them to drop the useless 4th year electives and instead receive research credits working beside PhDs. Sometimes they just need a guy to build them a data visualization suite or perform shitty statistical work they'd rather you do instead so long as your work is correct and you have personal standards not being lazy or careless.Your goal is to learn from them 'good taste' in research which is the ability to identify something that seems possible to solve. Bad taste is an impossible problem with no clear path to victory but good taste is more than spotting low hanging fruit like you enumerate many special cases until the general case you want to discover is just on the horizon. They will teach you this if you take it seriously. The best school that does this is UChicago probably the most elite US school as all undergrads do research but you can mimic it at any state school.Then you graduate with a letter of recommendation from a professor which is worth more than anything it means grad school entry or even trying out as a Quant researcher in Chicago or NY/Austin/London/Sydney. Sky is the limit you can get into anywhere with that piece of paper signed by a PhD who says this guy is worth hiring.
>>545656495...and then you get laid off because AI is simply better.Which I am surprised that no one has mentioned that yet, but all of these office big brain jobs are under threat from AI, making college an even worse life choice than it already was.
Then why the fuck do leftists want me to pay off their student loan debts for them so badly? Who you know is far more important for success than what piece of paper you have.
>>545647901It's a scam. Poor foreigners will brute force classes and/or cheat with other poor foreigners. Rich foreigners already learned the material in their homeland via tutoring or a functional secondary education system and/or have poor foreigners subsidize their education by doing most of the work. Foreigners pay full tuition and most importantly, don't complain, which is ideal for the university monetarily, and the narcissistic, nepo morons teaching the classes couldn't ask for better slaves. Some anecdotal info: When I was in college, asian foreigners only showed up on exam day for calc and got the highest scores. What you can gather from this is that it didn't really matter who was teaching the class. There didn't need to be a professor. The admin/teaching staff probably knows this, they benefit from this, and frankly, I think they start sucking at their job after awhile because of this. So, while mileage may vary, you may find yourself in a situation where your education is just being given a set of difficult tasks to complete on your own that normally requires guidance every semester. So not only are you taking a huge gamble, you're probably not going to be having fun, developing social skills, etc. Your mental health will probably take a huge hit. And even if you manage to do well, you're basically playing the lottery that is now the job market if you do not have connections. It doesn't matter if you have a good resume, can interview well, etc., and let's be real, you probably didn't gain any meaningful experience during your time in school because guess what, those also require charity (for minorities) or connections. Why waste 4 years to be 50-100K in debt vs. just starting somewhere at 18 and moving your way up? And if they don't move you up, live with your parents and pocket cash. In 10 years or so, if the world hasn't nuked itself, you should be able to buy a house in cash and start your life. The alternative likelihood is hell.
>>545648273If you don't own a home you will most likely live in an apartment around niggers and spics
College is great but it's been corrupted by Marxists and obsoleted by SI. It should be massively pruned down to only things that can't be done remotely and the power to issue degrees should be taken away from college boards and given to a new reimagined institution that is less susceptible to corrosion. Online, SI-driven learning should be free to all citizens. Only the proctored exams should cost anything at all.
>>545649384They used to be white. Where the government to protect stuff from being stolen/replaced?Where do all the betrayed troops and state workers and trades men supposed to go? Who are they supposed to pay their taxes to? They have zero representation within either side of politics
>>545653155The schools flunk you if you are white male or if you are conservative. You have to lie 10x more all the time. Teachers ask students to spy on other students.
>>545649666Typical enlightenment individualism bullshit. The egregore of white america is DEAD. Without a full on breakaway society that strictly does not allow kikes, spics or women in positions of authority over men it’s only a matter of time before demographic replacement becomes full on jackboots genocide. It isn’t your fault but it’s the situation you’re in. Sorry.
>>545655711>wahh I didn’t get enough attention so here’s all capsLoser. Here’s your crumb widdle man
>>545658711>Attempt a breakaway society>No universities because no one wentI dont think you are properly considering this
>>545647901There are no jobs for white men, regardless of your level of education. You could have 4 masters degrees and 10 years of experience and some HR roastie will still big Mohammad Abayabayobogo over you 100% of the time because HR roasties hate white men and don't want them to ever have any money or sex.
>>545661929It is absolutely shocking what liberalism has turned into. Women and the biggest looser-races in human history are given privileges over more capable white Natives. All the people capable of seeing this, are being kept in check by the sheer stupid mass.Started out pretending to be pro meritocracy, and has now killed the concept altogether, we are now in a much worse state than in feudal europe.What a total desaster and humiliation this is. This sick liberal religion has led us to the absolute low point in our history.
>>545661929The worst thing is, that idiots will believe you.
