>I DONT WANT FREE HEALTHCARE
>takes an extra 20% of your taxes>Free
>Free
>>545681545>>545681548Billionaires need that money more.
>>545681470No, you dumb bitch, why would I want to give niggers free healthcare?
>that money belongs to Israel
>>545681624If it's billionaire funded why do you have to lie and call it free?If you're the good guys then why can't you be honest?
>>545681710You're going to get ISRAEL to pay for everyone's healthcare?
>>545681545>>545681548>>545681647>pay taxes>no i dont want services back
>>545681908OH NO NO NOI THOUGHT YOU SAID IT WAS FREEHEALTHCARE BROS ARE WE FINALLY ADMITTING THE TRUTH?????
>>545681908>pay taxes>useless niggers abuse the system>end up like Italy
>>545681819No, I'm going to give israel a percentage of my taxes so that they can have free Healthcare, and great discounts (bought with my taxes) on missiles. The point of American taxes is holding up the standard of living of iaraelis.
>>545682006How do you abuse the system? Break your own legs to yet oxy?
>>545682001>IF I PAY WITH MY TAXES I DONT WANT FREE SERVICES BACK BRO
>>545682097false binary
>>545681710>$4 bln/ year for Israel>Senate and Congress select it as a part of the budget>regardless Trump just said he'd cancel it>$4 bln is 0.1% of US gov budget and is completely irrelevant. >free healthcare is $7 TRILLION dollars >x2000 >US gov witl go bankrupt TOMORROW if they decide free healthcare, >not enough money STOP SPAMMING RETARDED SHIT.
>>545682167Why do you keep talking about taxes?I thought you said it was free?
>>545681908>>545682167Stop spamming RETARDED SHIT, VPN shill.>>545682220
>>545681470I am not against free healthcare principally, but we simply can't afford it.
>>545682161Why would I need to explain how to abuse a system to a nigger? Seems redundant.
>>545682278but we can afford 4 billion yearly to israelthe poor, destitute 3rd world nation of israelwho would keep the lights on if not for generous american workers :(
>>545682202The LAST thing id ever want is government funded Healthcare for my own citizens. listen bucks, either we pay for Israeli Healthcare, or nobodies at all. Thats the line. If we cut israeli aid, we had better use the savings to pay for something USEFUL, like a ballroom or gold for the Whitehouse.
>>545681470I can’t wait for my DMV healthcare
i dont want any fucking healthcare at all i want mass suffering and death
>>545682368false binary
>>545682289I assume it requires relieving healthcare at some point but im not a nigger so forgive my white devil yakubian brain
>>545682278You already pay for everyone's healthcare, they just made the system in a way that you are dumb enough to believe you don't, while at the same time they milk you for every dollar they can
>>545682236Why do you keep saying ''aint no free stuff'' when you pay it with taxes?
>>545681470ya it be just like canada they just kill you
>>545681545We pay more than that on healthcare.And it would be less. Also employers don't have to fund it anymore, so wages might go up.
>>545681624Appropriate all of the billionaire wealth in America would cover the deficit (not total debt) for like 5 years.
>>545682425False country When did they let you out of the concentration camp?
>>545681545>>545681548>>545681548You already pay taxes to the government, why not let them pay for your healtchare?
Free stuff is only for Israel and jewish banks mkay?
>>545681470>Communism is soooo goodGo eat barf tranny
>>545682551AMEN!!! Those who donate to israel will be blessed, those who cut aid will be cursed!
>>545681470Zoomers will actually anhero when they realize they are having their taxes raised.
>>545681470>I don’t have a job so I don’t care if everyone else has to pay more and take home less for me to have healthcare
>>545681470I'd be be surprised and impressed if any of these new elects could actually work it out so that it wouldn't absolutely fuck over working class people. Like is there enough government fat to be trimmed to do it WITHOUT having to jack up taxes on those who can least afford it? Are there enough tax loopholes for billionaires that could be closed that could do it? Would said billionaires even stick around if it were possible? I don't disagree with the sentiment, I just dont fucking believe they'll ever actually do it, at least not in a way that won't fuck over the people who ALWAYS get fucked over. I just dont buy it.
>>545682440What the fuck are you trying to say lmao. You need me to explain to you how a nigger abuses the ER? How developmentally stunted are you, anon?
>>545682551Israel gets nothing for free becsuse Gen Z are taking everything. Israel can’t get 5 cents because Gen Z gets 5 trillion
>>545681470>IF I GET FREE STUFF THEN I AM BECOME NIGGER? I THINK NOT OK!!!!! I DONT WANT ANY HELP. I DONT WANT TO PAY TAXES, BUT IF I DO, I WANT NOTHING IN RETURN!!!!!
Why do foreigners come to the US for medical treatment when they have free healthcare in their own countries?
>>545682648To recieve Healthcare they need but cant afford? You mean like going to the ER with a bad flu so that you can rest in a comfy bed and get IV fluids?
>>545682645Last time they tried to trim the fat half the country got upset and began to hate Elon, prior to that they worshiped him and his cars
It's sounds like a good idea but how exactly will it work? Perhaps its just voter bait.
>>545682496>Why do you keep saying ''aint no free stuff'' when you pay>Why do you>say aint no free>when you payWorld's most literate spaghetti nigger
>>545682523not an argument>>545682543>why not let them pay>themWho's "them"?
free healthcare will be sitting in a waiting room forever with a bunch of third-world shitskins to see a female nurse practitioner
>>545682721>I didn’t know my taxes paid for fire, police, public schooling, military and infrastructure, to me that is nothing, where is my diabetes medicine
>>545682721>FREE STUFF>PAY TAXEShealthcare retards in charge of not contradicting themselves within the same post
>>545682803The government and their budgeting. We have 0 say over what they spend it on. Most of the time they buy TOW missiles and Toyota trucks for Jihadists in places like Syria. Why not have them, at the least, budget in some of that TOW money for subsidizing Healthcare?
>>545682741>https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=how+to+abuse+the+healthcare+systemFigure it out yourself you stupid fuck lmao
>>545681470>...FOR NIGGERS AND ILLEGALS THAT I PAY FOR WITH TAXES
>>545682927>we have no say over what they spend it on>that's why we should give them even more money and put them in charge of even more shit
>>545682744Half the country hated him well before that. Anyone who aligned themselves that strongly with Trump was hated by at least 50% of people, and that happened years before all that DOGE shit.
>>545682768
>>545682161>300 LB nigress walks in>DOCTA MUH KNEES HURT>prescription to oxy>nephew Tyrone sells it on the street.>repeat 10000 times in every major city in America>lines out into the parking lot because every nigger in America wants drugs
>>545681470I actually think doctors and lawyers shouldn't exist at all
>>545682949I see nothing about abusing the ER or recieving healthcare. Use it yourself. I see doctor fraud, prescription fraud (faking prescriptions) and benefits fraud (faking being in a car accident). Is this what you are talking about? How would universal Healthcare be related at all to someone faking a prescription pad or doctors signature?
>>545683058>can't even muster up a rebuttalAverage healthcare enthusiast argument
>>545682873>we all know the fire department are the ones who burn things down!
Only retards believe anything the government gives is "free".
I can’t believe people voted for socialism instead of $5000 government checks.
>>545681470I want universal healthcare. But an a social insurance model like Austria or Japan. Not an American NHS.
>>545683017Damn who said that? Thats dumb when you could make it a requirement like Nordic aryan countries have done and it works well
>freefree for those that don't work and don't pay taxes on income, consuption or property, yes, it's free for them
>>545681545We spend more for it, retard. Does it matter whether its taxes or private insurance?
>>545683235If you've got no control over what your government spends your money on, you should give them less money little buddy
>>545683155>pretending not to understand things making discourse impossibleLeave your house, drive to your parents house, walk in and give them a big hug, tell them you love them, then blow your fucking brains out.
>>545683291Then why pretend it's free?Be honest.
>>545682368The government already funds the majority of Healthcare in the US between Medicare, Medicaid, Tri-Care, paying the salaries of all the civil servants, etc.Quit the LARP.
>>545681470Its already free in AmericaGo to the hospital They send you a bill you dont even have to pay
Close the border and shoot anyone who tries to cross, then deport all illegals and Somalis and I’m all for it. Also I want Canadas Euthanasia System for any trannys who want sex changes. I’d be for a 50% tax increase if you did that. P.S. RWDS will be here soon at this rate Commie
>>545683334I'm not the migger pretending it's free. I'm pointing out that Americans put in more money for equivalent outcomes in a way that can't purely be explained by cost disease.
>>545681545>takes an extra 20% of your taxesYou are just straight up wrong. America currently spends TWICE the amount on healthcare per-capita as the typical developed nation, for care that is not of meaningfully better quality. There's 3 big reasons for this:>the insurance industry is a GIGANTIC and completely unnecessary middleman that takes a huge cut. Essentially a fucking parasite.>Americans vastly overpay for drugs, since private insurance companies don't have the same collective bargaining power as govt>Americans have less coverage which makes them more hesitant to get regular, preventative care to keep themselves healthy. As a result, their health issues escalate, and they end up requiring vastly more expensive emergency care.It's not le socialism. It's just more efficient.
>>545683558Yet you just called the guy who pointed out it isn't free a retard.So why pretend it's free?Be honest.
>>545681470Republicans are the perfect whipped slave caste that pays homage to billionaires and central bankers making their lives worse everyday. It's useless trying to convince them that the system could actually benefit them.
>>545683574That's all very interesting but if that's true why do you have to pretend it's free?
>>545681470>It's free but you get charged for it on your paycheck
No I dont want it. I pay $200 out of my paycheck every 2 weeks. My check is $1800 after everything gets taken out. I am in a union. I have a loving white wife and child.a pension. I live in michigan. I pay $0 for all doctor and urgent care visits. I paid $20 to have 3 cavities filled. I get seen within a day or two. I used to not have to pay 100 a visit for a check up. I don't want the free shit. Its not good, as I see many Canadians coming to michigan for health reasons or treatment. What do i do for living? I mow grass for the government.
>>545683659You might sound more convincing if you didn't start out with the most blatant lie that anyone with an ounce of common sense can automatically tell isn't true.
>>545683630Because it's irrelevant who precisely you're paying. The fact of the matter is that Americans spend more more for less in the modal case.
>IF WE HAVE FREE HEALTHCARE NIGGERS WILL FLOOD ER'S
>>545683668It's generally understood that nothing is truly free. But it is in fact common parlance to refer to tax-funded public services not directly charged for as "free." E.g. "free" schools, "free" roads, etc.The key point here is that in this case, the total cost for the American people will actually go DOWN by switching to socialized medicine, as the country is currently paying twice the average.
>free Healthcare already exists>it's for niggers ONLY though>MIGAtards seethe when a brown person suggests giving free Healthcare to their White friends
>>545683785>we can say it's FREE because it's irrelevant who precisely you're PAYINGmost coherent healthcare shill
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>>545683758How is it a lie? Republicans are the champions of UNLIMITED free market capitalism in which the top percent of society ends of controlling all the assets mostly corporations, central bankers, and share holders (aka blackrock vanguard state street etc). Anytime anyone suggests putting limits on this, you cry socialism or communism.
>>545682167It's already free.Employer provided health insuranceObamacare with subsidiesMedicare MedicaidOr if you're really poor, just don't pay and give them no IDYuropoors are poor for a reason
>>545683924>it's a common parlance to pretend things are free when they aren't freeThen it's also common parlance for people to point out you're a liar trying to trick people into doing something they don't want to do when you say it.
>>545681470Free healthcare, housing, social programs, etc should be for Americans and not for foreigners
>>545683334It's the absence of a fee at the point of care. Whoever understands "free" as in costless is retarded. It's free at the point of use, meaning you don't get billed for it.
>>545683996Everyone knows it isn't free budWe can use the most basic logic of:>wait who pays for it then?
>>545684045sounds like you're hyperfocusing on a non-issue to avoid addressing the larger point: that socialized medicine would actually cost half as much
>>545684089>EVERYTHING I BUY ON MY CREDIT CARD IS FREEOk nigger
>>545684124maybe if you lads stop lying and start making an HONEST argument for healthcare I will be forced to address thatUntil then, I will continue to point out that you are LYING LIARS
>free
>>545681470I don’t want to want six months for a x-ray.
>>545683996It's reassuring, even after they win, TDS trannys still have the brain smooth enough to keep chimping out.
free healthcare means you STILL pay, but the customer is government
>>545681908They're not going to give a single dime of service to White men. Why would I pay to have you lefties be racist to me?
Nothing is free you idiot...
>>545684708Has ever an apple tree asked you money you muttoid?
>>545681545>free 5k checks for FREE!? YES PLEASE! (It's free btw)>"free" healthcare (no one advocating this thinks "free" in the literal sense)>It's not free commie, you aren't entitled to a doctors care for free (the doctor still is paid btw)1.5 trillion dollar military budget is fine to righties. No problems there. 1.3 trillion for 5k checks for everyone? Another no problem. The budget to fund Universal Healthcare for everyone including themselves? "We don't have the money! That's communism! I'm not paying for your healthcare!"
>>545685007false binary
We should provide healthcare for our citzens and not send any money overseas to Israel or other nations.We should also deport all jeets and spics and kill all jews
>>545682167>I need to give the gov my money, then I want the gov to run a health service, then I want high quality because I know the gov is so great at running thingshahahahahahahahaha, just look at the likes of the NHS to see what crap you will get
>>545681470
>>545682352>$4bn a year to Israelyeh that works out at $16 per year per person in the US. Do you think you could get much for $16? In any case Obummer signed the bill to give Israel that money. Ironically Trump wants to end giving Israel that money.
>>545684969kill yourself nigger communist scum
>>545684151>This faggot doesn't know about the Sam Hyde chest code
>>545681470Why do socialists need healthcare so much, are they fat dysgenics
>>545686576There's plenty more in the budget to cut.>Ironically Trump wants to end giving Israel that money.**briefly said on fox news he wasn't going to send it, in the middle of the midterm election night, in a desperate attempt to secure any votes he could
>>545681470I say this but I don't wear that hat
>>545687115Except even king kike in Israel said he wanted to end US aid because it has strings attached. TI has constraints. Israel don't need the money, they took it of course. What they want is to have that tech and the US missiles etc and use it without having to phone the WH, without the constraints that congress puts on it. As for cutting the budget, the Democrats are not going to cut the budget. Most of the cost is on social security, they are not cutting that. What they will do of course is raise taxes.
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>>545687469Yeah, making massive corporations and billionaires that pay $0 in taxes currently actually pay taxes is also a pretty good start.
>>545681470Literally no one says this.What everyone is worried about is the additional taxes.But I guess you evade taxes yet takes free healthcare so you're practically a useless leech to your society.
>>545687536Drawing attention to gates probably isn't a good idea
>>545681470Can I have free healthcare and college with my Hitler? I’m tired of cucking
>>545687536kek
>>545681545So I can stop paying for private health insurance out of my paycheck, only to pay more after going to the hospital.
>>545681470>tax dollars for IsraelI:>tax dollars for my fellow americansO:<
>>545684969No but it asks for protection from pests and various wildlife species to guarantee its yield is both bountiful and healthy. It requires tending and that costs time and labor.Money is not the only form of currency that exists you dumb wop
>>545681470Richest, most powerful country in human history can't provide free healthcare for all but can fund endless wars and give billions to Israel every year. Make it make sense
>>545685516Rightwing voters are retards that are fine with an annual trillion dollar plus budgets for the military yet seethe and claim there's no money to afford social services like Universal Healthcare.
>>545681470>FREE HEALTHCAREno such thing
>>545681470>freeHow did you survive the abortion?
>>545681470What the fuck are you talking about you tranny VPN nigger. Im MAGA and I work fulltime and get free healthcare. Having taxable income is dumb goy shit.
>>545681470democrats aren't going to deliver free health carelast time they promised it, it turned out to be a mandate to buy insurancethey are owned by the same corporations as the GOP
Maybe OP wants to give us all free healthcare? The 4care?>>545688453
>>545688453>last time they promised it, it turned out to be a mandate to buy insurancebecause of republicans... its always republicans that ruin everything we might get thats good. Republicans and right wing corporate democrats.
Free healthcare is for illegal immigrants and the blacks.
>>545681470Oh don't worry you won't get it because it will be hard to use you in a fraud scheme.But you will "pay for it though", the fraud I mean.
>>545681470When am I getting free healthcare and Cheeto getting impeached?