Lol. STEM nerds and code monkeys will be replaced by AI. Nice.
>>545721120Suddenly the "learn to code" crowd has gotten REAL quiet...
Vibe coding chads will always win. You always need someone to tell the machine spirit what to code.
>>545721187Learn to mow
>>545721120how is agriculture at risk? is a T-800 going to plow the fields? Are they going to turn niggers into stroggs and put mind control chips in them
>>545721120>>545721257This has GOT to be wrong, why not just invent an outside roomba?
>>545721120yeah, until people realize that AI code is unreadable and unmantainable, I was already involved in a project fully vibe coded and the results were poor...Companies jumping into this will see severe code glitches and will be forced to hire software developers to lead a refactor.The only viable option is AI + developer acting as overseer.
>>545721531that's still a massive reduction in the number of developers needed.
>>545721531>yeah, until people realize that AI code is unreadable and unmantainable,Delicious cope. Frontier models do not hallucinate. Reskill, code monkey.
>>545721279>how is agriculture at risk? is a T-800 going to plow the fieldsYes? Most high volume crops are high volume because they're machine harvested
>>545721331Australian Chinks got that covered https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NF1Yq3L4RyA
>>545721120I made so much as a code monkey that I can retire now
I remember just 5 years ago when everyone here was pushing the "learn to code" narrative, shouting that coders would never be replaced, unlike journalists or artists, and now it turned out that SI has become much better at replacing coders than journalists and artists because you can immediately distinguish any text written by SI from text written by a human, and you can distinguish SI slop art from human art, but SI code is already better than 99% of human code. Ironic, isn't it?
>>545721607>muh frontier models Still shit. Shit not paying for this shit. Go buy an ad faggot
>>545721994Journos have been useless human garbage since at least a few decades now. You don't need sophisticated tech to replace them, simply being able to copy and paste text covers 90% of their job.
>>545721994Retard, journalists were the ones telling coal miners to learn to code
>>545722029>>545722173And yet, code monkeys are losing their jobs
>>545722260>according to yt clickbaitEven still, when a software engineer loses their job it's not nearly as a big deal as when some nursing home asswiper or tradie with wrecked health does. Unless you're completely financially retarded, you can easily retire even after 10 years as IT nerd.
>>545721994>>545722249Can you niggers drop the kike D&C shit?Neither "journalists" nor "coders" were telling people to learn to code from a high horse, stop hyperfixating on a handful of retarded shills and building them up into a boogeyman that you need to get back at.AI is made and pushed by kikes, and they want you acting retarded and infighting while they put you all out of work.
>>545721994>SIUntermensch
>>545722634He wasn't actually forced out of business, it seems he's just freaking out over the reverse engineering thing
>>545721120The degree jobs that will continue to exist are things like robotics engineering where you repair robots with your hands and diagnose the, law because law can't be done by retard AI, medicine for the same reason.Most work will become middle-man stuff where you're extracting value from a company in the areas where AI can't compete, or you have 3d printer and sell dragon dildos on etsy, or you have your own business roofing houses.People who invested in a 'job' that can be done 2 hours a day while remote on a beach in indonesia are going to lose out.
>>545721279other countries already use ag-bots. The US uses illegals because boomer farmers are jews+actual jews love having illegals replacing us.
>>545721994>but SI code is already better than 99% of human codeLol noIta just that jeets dont qualify as human so yes ai is better than their coding abilities.
>>545721187
>tfw healthcare and my job could totally be done by AI but state/federal protections requiring licensed humans means my job is safeWell, at least for now, until they repeal and change laws to remove legal requirements to have actual people. But laws change slowly, so I have time to make it first...
>>545721994>you can immediately distinguish any text written by SI from text written by a humanThis one isn't true because it's all trained on academic writing so if I wax poetic so to speak and write in full paragraphs I get barely literate shitskin zoomers in awe of my ability and assume I must be using chat gpt because "no one cld type like ts fr no cap, nice chatgpt unc".
>>545721120Hard to build a home for someone unemployed. This is true trickle down economics. Let the rich replace you and the shit flows downhill.
>>545722260his company died because he was selling some proprietary slop for 300 dollars a month subscription and then some ai'd up a better alternative for free.
>>545722994>it's all trained on academic writingit's trained on reddit posts. nice run-on sentence.
>>545721120I fucking hope one of my brother's brother-in-laws loses his job in tech. He makes a shit-ton of money and he's the biggest pseud faggot I've ever met. He also married a slut who lied about being raped because filing a false police report is somehow better than your shithead Christian parents finding out you aren't a virgin. I hope they both get hit by a meteor.>someone has to check and optimize the code!Someone who isn't a fucking idiot, hopefully.
>>545723147Feel free to sucketh my balls.
Transportation being safe from AI is a massive joke. Only reason why all trains and subways aren't fully automated is the unions.It's like when the dockworkers went on a mass strike in the US when automation started infringing on their territory.
>>545721607>>545722029its not about hallucinations, Hallucinations happen when an LLM does not have the proper context or domain information to do a task so it makes an aproximate decision.That said all vibe coded projects are poorly structured, thus unmantainable, the models just add code and expand and do not understand what they are doing, eventually if a vibe coded project grows it is an unmantainable maze that acts like a software black box, this will have consequences in the long run.Vibe coding is a throwback to 90s legacy projects made in PHP or Java, a monolithic mess mixed with spaghetti code and autistic over-engineering, that compounds with the corporate mindset of thinking that they are justified to increase delivery times that in turn forces taking vibe coding to the extreme multiplicating technical debt.So far the best combination is coding for comments and giving the Agent precise instructions.
>>545725378>unmantainableOutdated concepts. LLMs can test and review the code. If it works why would I care? You don't review assembly anymore.
>>545721120AI has revealed to me that most people in """"STEM"""" (self-described) are no more intelligent than fast food wagies and call centre employees
>>545721593Compensated by a higher demand for projects that weren't cost effective before
>>545725675>Outdated concepts. LLMs can test and review the code. If it works why would I care? You don't review assembly anymore.Wrong... LLMs testing is as flawed as humans, for a small project an LLM can spawn hundreds of tests that are worthless.>If it works why would I care?bug happens and you have a monolithic + spaggeti code only an LLM can understand, the more the vibe coded software grows the harder it is to mantain and add new features, yes sure... you can prompt... but I am finding that this vibe coding only produce Jeet quality code, even worse, I found many instances of LLMs unable to solve simple problems or going into autistic loops over none-issues or over-engineering things like uppercasing strings...on the other hand I tried it for personal coding projects for games, and you see that these LLM models are horrible for tasks like generating assets using comfyui workflows, or even coding some basic animation on a 3d rig.You could claim that I should pay a fortune for Fable but I am not investing 20 dolars just to make a commit on a git repo... Chink AI is barely adequate, American AI is extremely expensive, no in between, Language models are token predictors not code generators or analizers, you are using an autocomplete model for coding tasks, and the autocomplete model does what an autocomplete model would do, add more code over code.
>>545725675>You don't review assembly anymore.compiled languages have specificationscompilers are deterministicthat being said, quality of LLMs will keep rising. but if anything id expect number of people in coding to only rise, but it will shift into senior / product manager type of work.LLMs will allow projects that were previously impossible (time, budget) to become possible.coding does not have a finite amount of work/demand to be done per year, unlike agriculture or construction which scale only with population. there will simply be more and more work, done more and more efficiently.
>>545723834Sure thing elon
>>545721120Office&Admin here, I'll be fine. Coders are autistic retards that take months if not years to fix the simplest, most fundamental flaws in their software. I'll be cleaning up their slop until the end of time. AI will just replicate the shit job they're already doing. Nothing will change. We'll still need to update our software 4 times/week because computerniggers can't figure it out.
>>545728521>coding does not have a finite amount of work/demand to be done per year,actully it does. most people just use the same software, no body want more features
Kinda interestingTop Tiers specs and High IQ people prepared their own replacement.
>>545721187>from all the work>fixing AI codenot everybody can code
>>545728895vast majority of software isnt made for B2C but B2B
I don't think a robot will be able to change the lights in the theater or build the sets so I think my job is safe for a while
>>545721120It's like when guys were training their Jeet replacements, but even more inhuman.Sad!
>>545729365Ffs i was promised that if i do that i will always have a job.It seems that was a fucking lie
>>545721593Said like a true kike>Replaces everybody with LLM's>Nothing works anymore>Nobody can fix the monstrocity they made>Line went up for one solid quarter before everything exploded tho
>>545729472The only solid job you can have is something like a dentist. People always need their china fixed.
>>545729848i'm a mobile welder/diesel mechanic.basically zero chance this work gets replaced in the next 50-100 years.
The only thing that will happen is that managers will demand more of you since you also have a LLM
>>545721120AI = Actually IndiansAI is non deterministic which makes it a huge nightmare.
>>545730090>AI is non deterministic which makes it a huge nightmare.Humans are non deterministic
>>545725378>So far the best combination is coding for comments and giving the Agent precise instructions.This is the truth. AI code can look like human written code, but only when prompted by somebody that actually knows what that means. Otherwise, good luck with your vibes lmao
>>545721120They were supposed to have been replaced three or four times already...
>>545730297People that don't understand have been saying this for decades each time there's any sort of advancement that is significant enough to make headlines or enter the public consciousness to some extent. Meanwhile, every competent developer (and a bunch of incompetents) is completely overwhelmed with work.
>>545721120We have a rce in fucking paint future is looking grim.
>>545730513Not if you're the one popping calc
>>545721120>ReplaceIt's going to be augmented into the workforce and all the H1B monkeys can finally go back to their shitholes, because they served their purpose as "temporary" workers>1 US programmer can manage 10 AI clients now>1 US programmer can manage 100 AI clients in 5-10 yearsThere was never a shortage of programmers, but there is an absolute shortage of 'good' programmers, and AI is going to fix that.I'm not worried, I'm even studying AI for my graduate plan
>>545725378AI is constantly hallucinating answers, the whole point of AI is that a lot of time these halllucinations work.
>>545721120I'm a DBA. We keep trying to use AI for coding and it keeps failing. The most common issues are: incredibly complex code for a simple problem, or inefficient code that takes too long. For chat gpt, one guy has a 200 page training document just to get it to do code review on VB.Net, and it still misses things. And there are still many cases where it takes longer to get AI to do something correctly, than it does to just do it yourself. I have no idea how people are getting lots of production ready code out of it.
>>545721120>>545721187>>545721531You will never be a real programmer. You have no commits, you have no pull requests, you have no public repos. You are a low IQ brown man twisted by an unearned comp sci degree and coding bootcamps into a crude mockery of nature's autism.All the “validation” you get is two-faced and from bots. Behind your back people call you a useless DEI hire. Your parents are disgusted and ashamed of you, your “tech bros” laugh at you behind closed doors.Real programmers are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of forum posts have allowed programmers to sniff out frauds with incredible efficiency. Even devs who “pass” have no creative output and excessively verbose with AI generated tech buzzwords. Your GitHub profile is a dead giveaway, and even if you manage to score a 3 month internship at some scam startup, they'll lay you off the second they find out that you haven't completed any non school related projects.You will never be happy. You cope by saying that your bullshit software is using a "proprietary test framework" so you can't open source it, but deep down you know it's because you don't want people to see your incompetence where all you did was push README updates over and over, and that the core codebase was stolen off an open source GPL licensed project which you're shamelessly profiting off.Eventually it will be too much to bear. You'll buy a spoofed business phone number and start cold calling old people into redeeming your gift card scam. This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.
>>545721120https://youtu.be/zroIcuZK7AY
>>545731814meanwhile I just to code a markdown virus to turn an LLM autistic...
>>545721607For apps and such, yeah, but for complex software and development cycles, no.>t. works in company with frontier modelsIt’s still more of a tool to speed up your work than something that can actually replace competent people. Emphasis on competent btw. It’s a jeet terminator
>>545721120so will everyone elsethe most advances in robotics are made in haptic control and robotic handsconstruction and blue collar jobs will vanish rapidly and nobody will have seen it coming (so they say)
>>545721120>>545721187Year 14 of /g/ and /pol/ telling me my cushy six figure job is about to be relaxed by>offshoring>h1bs>llm’s>offshoring againTwo more weeks!
>>545721120They will all reconvert to trades and either outcompete or outprice the tradies.It's bad for everyone who's not filthy rich.
