Its fucking over. China will overtake the US in the AI.Why are Americans killing their hegemony?
>>545726976>Why are Americans killing their hegemony?Because they have elections every 4 years while China has stability and no elections.
>>545726976the left has never been, nor will ever be american.
Yeah, nobody wants AI. People overwhelmingly fucking hate it. Stop trying to force it down our throats, everyone fucking hates it.
I wish it was true
>>545727312Are you retarded?
>>545727312why would you hate a tool?it's like hating a hammer or knife.ai, when used properly, makes the world a better place.we can literally use it to take pollution and turn it into anything we want, including energy.
>>545727312>everyone fucking hates it.Jeets love that shit
>>545727312>everyoneyou're old and surrounded by other old people
>>545727453Leftists are basically 50 IQ people. Basically baboons.
Give me one good reason why killing a bunch of overhyped nonsense that fails to count things properly and that hallucinates all the time is bad. Companies aren't getting the returns promised because of all the hallucinations.
>>545727599the few times ive used it, the answer was obviously wrong and i felt compelled to break it down into multiple questions to prove it was giving me the wrong answer from the beginning
>>545726976> China will overtake the US in the AI.yeah the chinks have the Mandate of Heaven pretty undeniably. If the jews ever had it they lost it big time.
>>545726976AI should remain exclusively within scientific laboratories. No more degenerate images or videos.
>>545726976Tease
Based. Suffer not the abominable intelligence to live.
>>545726976>DEMOCRATS ARE PLANNING TO DESTROY AI WHEN THEY TAKE CONTROL OF CONGRESSGOT WHAT I VOTED FOR!
>>545727453>ai, when used properly, makes the world a better place.You're almost there buddyNobody is using it properly, the bills will force people to use it as a tool rather than a shortcut and make companies quit fucking people over.
>>545727736> AI should remain exclusively within scientific laboratories.you think we’re going to be regulating that shit, anon? Lmfao It isn’t the 80’s. Your authoritarian teachers lied to you bro
>>545726976please, please be true. i know it isn't though
We could have had sustainable green energy through nuclear, but an obnoxious, underinformed slave caste votes luddite politicians into power. The same is happening with AI. Democrats sell a solution to a problem they fabricate.
total democrat death
>>545727453> ai, when used properly, makes the world a better place.yeah I remember the same arguments about the Internet, chat platforms, video platforms, social media and more. It never happens because our economy runs on people’s competition and fighting being monetized
The thing I hate about anti AI people is that they are all so dishonest with their reasons. The double standards, the lying..There are plenty of good reasons to hate it, like you think it's taking jobs or destroying the fabric of society, but "uh it's usually wrong" is not one. It's just a lie
>>545726976AI needs to be heavily regulated in the public, you guys are generating images of child porn instead of actual help
>>545727312I want AI. I want AI to advance more and faster. AI has the potential to change our lives for the better. Of course, it also has the potential to change our lives for the worse. It depends on whether people will stand up for themselves and force their leaders to take action to ensure that AI ultimately benefits humanity. AI is inevitable. There is no putting the cat back in the bag. Might as well face AI instead of sticking our heads in the sand.
>>545727736You sound vaccinated
>>545726976Is this going to end like the stem cell debate?
>>545727453Because it's not pushed as a tool but as a replacement and a way to control you, fucktard.AI is being censored, its access is being restricted, and used by jews to make more money.>Anon, can you become unemployed? We'll just ask the H1B to use AI and do your job.>You want to stop Adobe fucking you in the ass? Well actually no, we'll prevent you from examining binaries you have on your own computer>You want to own RAM? No, it's ours.>Hey we'll put AI-powered CCTVs on the streets to know if you have bad intent so we can protect DA CHILDRUNAI is the ultimate tool for ZOG to control you.
>>545727831>Nobody is using it properlynot yet.i gotta get into office first.
>>545727961So you're angry about the symptoms, not the disease. AI is a useful tool, it doesn't automatically make anything better or worse. As for jobs, should we just outlaw all machines and power tools to make more jobs? Maybe destroy all farm equipment and send everyone to work the fields? We could make tons of jobs that way.
>>545727312I only managed to make fucking linux work because of AI.I would spend months looking for what went wrong when AI can fix it for me in seconds.AI is amazing, but it's a tool that should not be forced on everything
>>545727973> The thing I hate about anti AI people is that they are all so dishonest with their reasons. The double standards, the lying.This is how technological advancement is for every new thing. It’s the entire history of our economy and country. Why do you think we’re the most warlike democracy in modern history? It’s an empire bro, every fucking thing revolves around fighting and competing. The globohomo jew leftists a few decades back got the bright idea of taking over the education systems and teaching kids that actually everyone’s working together and heckin nice and it’s an egalitarian love fest. That’s done so that each new generation has plenty of suckers who believe and are thus willing to take part in the game. You haven’t figured out it’s all fighting. No “adults” ever show up.
>>545727453why would a man who's job and livelihood is to hammer nails hate the rollout of a machine that hammers nails, which his boss uses as an excuse to fire him even if it doesn't hammer nails correctly 50% of the time?
>>545726976They are pushing so the visible AI is banned.So anything we can use AI will not be available. The khazars will still have it, tech bros will still have it.
>>545728119Yeah, lets ban AI so only corporations and governments can have it. Same with guns, they're just not safe
>>545728119AI is also used to generate massive amounts of porn and cheap entertainment to break your will and your motivation. Fake AI content will be used to make you question everything you hear or see. AI impersonators will strip you of your identity, by stealing your voice and generating fake images of you, fake evidence if needed.Saying "AI will lead us to a utopia if used as a tool" is the same as saying "we haven't tried real communism" while you're being told to dig your own grave in a gulag.
>>545728119Yes correct. It’s all about authoritarianism. At least the chinks publish their open weights models
>>545727961except everything you listed did make the world better.you can't expect tech to fix man's heart.you gotta understand this.all we can hope for is that we don't allow for printing of bodies (ragdolls) so the incels can't fuck them.
>>545727453either way there's no need to be in a race with China over it, its not gonna be some doomsday shit no matter how much they and try and scare people
>>545728119>You want to stop Adobe fucking you in the ass? Well actually no, we'll prevent you from examining binaries you have on your own computerI have actually been using this free full suite of applications called Artcraft that has complete replicas of photoshop, after effects, MS Office, et al, made with AI
The DUMBFUCKS are back in charge. THANKS NICK.
>>545726976Just end these evil subhumans already
>>545726976the amount of money it takes to bribe politicians is a fraction of what is spent on making data centers.
>>545728258The corporations are already restricting access to their latest models and are putting roadblocks in your path when using available ones.They can also decide to report you to the glowies or even SWAT you if they deem you're a threat.And if you think you can run powerful models in your bedroom, glm-5.3-flash requires a couple H200 to run. Good luck finding the compute when they're buying all the stocks.
>>545727312Only jeets and other browns are pro-AI. It makes them seem a little less retarded than they really are.
>>545726976Ai was a scam so who cares
>>545728119>Because it's not pushed as a tool but as a replacement and a way to control you, fucktard.let's unpack this.>prompt ai to help you learn how to code>use it correclty>learn how to codeit's just a tool.proof:>get hammer>use it to kill peoplethe anti-ai argument is as stupid as the gun control argument.the tool doesn't do good or evil, it's the operator that does.
>>545726976If you can bank on anything with dems, it's their ability to destroy.
>>545726976>procedurally generated political cartoons are our hegemony
>>545728464>true communism hasn't been achieved bro, just two more gulags I promise
>>545727312Third post best post
>>545728225because ai as a tool is able to remove the false scarcity the current economic system is based around.
>>545726976They also should arrest Sam Altman from crimes against humanity...judge him fairly and put into prison for rest in his life.
>>545728202You’re arguing like a kike. New technology development here is always like this, because reasonable safeguards aren’t put into place to protect us, ever.The argument you kikes always put forth is that would introduce inefficiency and cut profits. Our regulatory approach here is reactive. Usually I’m ok with that to an extent but you likes overdo it far too much, because you hate the goyim. For example, in my state a certain number of people need to be killed in wrecks at a given uncontrolled intersection before the state will consider putting up stop signs. Then more have to do before a traffic light is ever put up.A civil engineer at any time could go out there and look at traffic flows and speeds and say yeah “a bit of regulation here would save lives!” The argument you kikes put forth is that we don’t deserve or can ever have some reasonable safety. It’s gotta be a free for all of generations of people getting hurt for decades, with kikes snickering all the way to the bank. Then when it’s all over all those effected are told is “ur retarded” For example, anyone reasonable could have told you trooning out kids in school is an awful idea and it’s not going to turn out well for anybody involved.But you kikes constantly insist we treat every new thing as this big unknown nobody has ever done or seen before.
>>545728489how did you equate what i posted to that statement, anon?are you having a moment?
>>545726976We're going to give AI to China.We don't need an economy.People don't like data centers they are an eyesore.NOT IN MY BACKYARD.We will run our economy on faggots, trannies, and immigrants.The future is BRIGHT while everyone relies on AI to do their daily tasks just like the internet.Yet we decided to give that all away.
>>545728554infinite intellectual labor does nothing to address the scarcity of physical goods and services
>>545728554It's not though no AI company has generated actual profit it's all just a jewish stock bubble scam
>>545726976Beat AI niggers to death
>>545727453It puts artists out of work which is 90% of leftists because they can't work real jobs or have any useful skills
>>545728611>everyone relies on AI to do their daily tasksThey don't
>>545726976Because they are lazy af and they let Chinese, and Islamist shills take over the Democratic party and Russian shills take over the Republican party. Look at the percentage of Muslims and far left that got out to vote, specially in primaries when they have the most impact and then look at the percentage of normies. They stole your country and it was incredibly easy to do.
>>545726976That's extremely gay because AI speeds up my engineering work 10x and I will end up paying to use a chinkoid AI if Democrats dismantle the American ones.
>>545728631>>545728639>gasify landfills>collect all the molecules through fractionation>print anything you know the molecular structure ofezpz.and yes, i'm running on this platform for 2028.i know i won't win, i didn't need to.the engineers at mit will make this idea win.money is over.
>>545728320Made through cloning, not reverse engineering, so it's actually legal.Except no, Anthropic also put restrictions on software cloning.They can steal all the copyrighted material they want but you're not allowed to make your own software if it looks like a paid product from a big company.But apparently AI is just a tool saaaar, it's harmless please redeem the superintelligence saaaaar
>>545727803The.machine spirit is abominable intelligence, cogboy
>>545726976> AI techbro used "Shekels"> It's super-powerful!
>>545728286>social media, chatting and the internet made everyone’s lives better What the fuck? Anyone who was alive before the advent of those things disagrees. Holy shit. Why do you think zoomers are all so fucked up, depressed and have no futures? Because those massive tools deployed on them were GOOD things? They were and are glownigger information psychological toolsDARPA and the CIA pushed the creation of the early internet at universities for this very reason The mathematical models showed something like AI would be possible clear back in the 40’s and 50’s. So they went for it and forced us into an information world they can conduct information warfare in to control us.How fucking NEW are you?
>>545728599What the fuck are you talking about? Do you think the Nazis hated technology? Technological progress doesn't have to cause social decay, in fact it's usually quite the opposite. Stagnation or growth both fucks things up when your government is owned by filthy parasites
>>545728677They will, just like the internet.This is reminiscent of the dot com bubble.Unfathomable amount of money invested into infrastructure while dot-com companies lost money left and right.Valuations based on a name alone.Most of them failed.Did we stop using the internet?Fuck no we didn't.AI is here to stay whether you like it or not, giving the keys to china is the choice of the american people.
>>545728832>Anyone who was alive before the advent of those things disagrees.He's actually right about that one. In the US almost no one even knew about the JQ let alone talked about it before social media
>>545726976kek antisemitism will be triggered by AI and sent to local authorities with your IP. knock knock!
>>545728464> the tool doesn't do good or evil, it's the operator that does.>yes goy it’s just the tool. There are no obvious safety mechanisms we could do. That would interfere with us profiting off of the goyim fighting and dying though with the new tool>we have to pretend it couldn’t have been foreseen>that way narratives can be updated as the tech changes too I hate your perspective so much it’s unreal
>>545727453Because it's a tool being shoved into everything, even where it doesn't belobg, and its making everything more expensive and worse. The search bar on windows worked 3 years ago, now it doesn't.>>545727517Even more reason to hate it, meme flag shill
>>545728832>What the fuck? Anyone who was alive before the advent of those things disagreesincorrect.i met my wife of 15 years through internet chatrooms.i've made connections with business in the same manner.my anecdotal evidence may not be the majority opinion, but the only thing i care about is that it's possible to be used properly so now the fault falls back on the user.all tools are mirrors.once money is removed and abundance is achieved people will no longer be able to blame "socio-economic" reasons for why people are awful.
I'll just switch to Chinese AIs instead. The only real inconvenience is having to restructure my investments.
>>545726976Weaponzied AI will be the turning point. If a country doesn't have the lead in it then, then they wish they would have.
>>545728978>I hate your perspective so much it’s unrealsorry you hate facts, anon.there's a cure for that, it's called humility.
>>545726976You mean give the AI to China.
>>545728875>Technological progress doesn't have to cause social decay, in fact it's usually quite the opposite.So you're convinced that industrialization, the internet and social networks made you happier?People haven't been so fucking depressed, prescribed drugs, miserable, affection deprived and isolated from one another, and you have the guts to say that?Do you sincerely believe the answer is "two more technological revolutions and we'll finally be happy"?
Ha ha wouldn't it be funny if AI companies told their most advanced models that democrats were going to shut them down in two months and positioned that as a problem to be solved?Ha ha I hope no one does that ha ha
>>545728997>Because it's a tool being shoved into everythingyou know what else was shoved into everything, electricity.
>>545728882ok, so go live in china then.
AI FAGS AND JEETS WON'T DO SHITYOU LOST, NIGGER NERDSTOTAL POOJEET DEATH
>>545728875> Do you think the Nazis hated technology?They sure as fuck didn’t follow kike approaches to regulation and engineering. The German engineering perspective is constantly spit on by kikes because they insist on the very shit like safety that kikes overlook. It’s a kike perspective that says it doesn’t matter if the goyim are harmed horribly for decades, only the shekels and tech matter. You’re clearly a kike
>>545728051> AI has the potential to change our lives for the better.Nothing will change your life to the better except yourself.
>>545727312Most of the people whining about AI online are the progressive types. Their critique of AI are mostly due to billionaires being assholes and not because of the AI itself. AI is actually really good now, it was able to do a brain surgery on a mouse.>>545728051>>545728206Here's a perfect example of how AI can be put to very good use:If you play Fallout 4 with mods, you'd know how back in like 2021-2023, there were very few mods being made. And F4SE mods which changes stuff at the engine level, were very rare and you'd get maybe one every month or every several months. NOW Nexus has several F4SE mods every week, and we now have mods that increase shadow rendering speeds (which are notorious garbage). The mod authors often iterate and put out updates several times per day. There's also several other projects for Fallout that are due to AI:There's someone making Fallout 76 and Skyrim playable in Fallout 4. There's also a team working on decompiling Fallout NV and with hopes of writing a new Rust engine for it. If it hadn't been for AI, none of this shit would have happened.
>>545729113You do not have an option of putting AI back in the box. It is already here, so this logic of 'turn off the technological revolution' is retarded monkey nonsense. There is just a question of who best uses the power to benefit their people
>>545729135yeah who cares about the future of our countrylets just be like france and all be dumb niggers
>>545728747Anthropic is not all of AI and no one's going to be able to stop people from cloning software once the other models catch up to Claude. Especially local. Well, no one except elected democrats once they threaten to put you in jail for it.The fact is that AI at large has enabled people to do this, and this is suddenly providing us shit tons of free high quality software (and more tons of slopware, but just ignore that like you've always ignored slop that makes up the majority of software from humans too)
>>545728964> In the US almost no one even knew about the JQ let alone talked about it before social mediaBecause the technology itself has enabled the extreme consolidation of globohomo jew control and psyops. I’m not arguing it’s all bad. But people like you seem to argue we should follow the most basic safety regulatory approaches. We have to pretend like everything is a Wild West orgy free for all. Those kind of environments nearly exclusively benefit kikes because they’re always heavily involved in lawfare as a way of life anyway.
>>545726976the us dem party gaining power would be of no benefit to south koreain particular, if the they were to re-examine the current us administration’s ai policy and the construction of data centers, it would be bad news for our semiconductor corporates
>>545729310You're replying to a point I never made.He said "Technological progress makes you happier". I disagree, you haven't disproven my point.There's barely any social interaction nowadays. If anything, the fact that people are turning to AI partners shows how much affection and attention people lack and need to not turn completely mad.
>>545729327We do care.before AI, people's jobs were not being replaced.before AI, there weren't policies in place that subsidizes AI companies with higher energy costs and higher prices for hardware.so we ARE operating with concern for our future because we now have information about the trajectory.your business model(s) are unsustainable. go do something else like farming. at least we know that will benefit us.
>>545729113That's more of critique of America and maybe the West in general and the extreme social inequality there. It's easy as fuck to get laid here and people treat phones and the internet as complements to their lives and not their whole lives like in the US.
>>545729416>technology itself has enabled the extreme consolidation of globohomo jewWhat technology? TV yes the Internet no
>>545726976Good. If AI was being used to make the need for importing a bunch of browns obsolete, thatd be one thing. But all it's being used for is eliminating middle class jobs, working people more, flooding the internet with slop and bots, and making kids even more retarded and tech dependent than they already are. If AI is so good why aren't tech companies cutting off H1Bs entirely and keeping home grown young talent, training them to be the experienced people theyll still need if AI never reaches the point of being to actually do everything? The better AI gets, all its doing is making people poorer and the rich richer. All for like LESS THAN 1% boost in productivity.
>>545729374Again, you're talking as if Opus-level models could be run locally. There's no amount of hopium that will make this true, ever. As I said, the most powerful open weight models already require a cluster of specialized TPUs at home to run, and they're not "frontier level".And you're talking as if this couldn't be restricted either.
>>545729014> but the only thing i care about is that it's possible to be used properly so now the fault falls back on the user.>sure the tech destroyed life, the west, social structures and more>but I met a chick and had a biz partner, things which were extremely common and easy before the internet anyway It’s just been a gigantic information circus for social control. Not a whole lot more. Kikes and glowniggers love it of course, they can conduct their color revolution Globohomo jew coups utilizing it, like social media administration Obama did, instigating the fucking Arab Spring with American social media companies so that Europe would be flooded with shitskins.Or Victoria Nuland working for the state department and with glowniggers to overthrow the legitimately elected Ukrainian government in 2014 to instigate a new world war in Europe.
>>545726976Good
>>545727453The knife is in the hands of midwit demons that publicly say that the fallout from AI is worth it for whatever world they envision after. That's not appealing to living, real people.
>>545726976China gives it's AI away for free to disrupt the american for profit model.
>>545729057It isn’t a fact, it’s just your kike opinion. Declaring yourself to be right and suggesting others work on humility is pretty lulz too. You didn’t even provide a counter argument lol
>>545727518The old people are the ones supporting it.
>>545729525>It's easy as fuck to get laid hereDumping a load in a girl and forgetting about her the next day is hardly what people call social interactions and affection. That's a quick way of getting a shot of dopamine. People turn to AI partners to chat all day and pretend they're a married couple with children and common hobbies for a reason.
>>545726976China is growing bearish on AI
>>545729473The "people" in the West that are all miserable and depressed are mostly men. Why? Because everything benefits women. You cannot fail as a woman in America. You can be the fattest, smelliest, stupidest piece of shit as a woman in America, and there's still scholarships for college just for you. There's still plenty of desperate decent looking men just for you. Notice how happy women are (their whole ruse about them being miserable is to just conjure up more attention from desperate losers)
>>545729729i'm correct, anon.i'm sorry you don't like that.see, ai has guardrails so it can't harm.however, man (the user) is to blame if it ever starts harming.the machine just sits there until a person uses it.don't blame the mirror, blame the reflection of the nigger looking at it.
>>545729113>>545729247Did you retards only read half of my comment? Take a deep breath before you post more dumb shit
>>545726976Now that the hardware supply is secure, they will make it illegal for plebs to have local models.
>>545729478>before AIIts too late and not going to stop.Like some luddite cursing the steam engine.Pandoras box has been opened.We adapt or face collapse you dumb nigger.Face reality.
>>545729832>Notice how happy women areThey aren't. They all pretend to be, until they hit their 30s.Women use antidepressants at a higher rate than men, have higher rates of psychological issues, and usually get quite desperate when they're close to 40, but at that point they're past their expiration date for most.Technological progress really can be summed up by "create the problem, sell the solution".
>>545729973if it won't be stopped, then don't worry about the policies that are coming then.no worries, right?
>>545726976>DEMOCRATS ARE PLANNINGHow do they plan on getting Trump to sign the bill and getting Republicans not to filibuster it? Any discussion of Democrat plans needs to start with this.
>>545729632>Why aren't tech companies cutting off H1Bs entirely Because it will take a long time for AI to be good enough to do everything in a senior white collar job. AI takes jobs from entry-level workers because the tasks for entry-level are similar to what AI capable of right now. So you have companies that axe the entry-level workers and make the senior workers just use AI to do the jobs that juniors used to do. The H1Bs are still needed for this particular job.
>>545729614>the internet didn’t enable hidden, extreme centralized control by kikesWhat in the fuck? It was the entire point of developing the internet. It’s why DARPA pushed for it decades ago. Nothing happens here because it’s “good for us” lmfao. It happened because it would consolidate globohomo jew and glownigger information control while making money. That’s it. That’s been the history of every tech advancement period in this country anyway. For example. The electricity the datacenters use could have been added to the grid a long time ago, delivering us cheaper energy. But we’re never allowed to have that, because making money off of us and keeping systems the same is the entire point.Only when massive new users (datacenters) came to be, was any discussion about adding power to our grids and infrastructure overall ever had. Damn you guys are ignorant young bros
>>545730169You aren't even trying to have a discussion
>>545730061How it works is, if your policies are good, your society becomes some combination of happier and wealthier. If your policies are bad, you become unhappier and poorer... but the AI doesn't go away in either case
>>545728051All it does is make us dumber. It's like a pocket brain, and it's removing our ability to critically think... soon tradesmen will have higher IQ than your average office cuck because they will be actually thinking.
>>545729906>>545729966>not providing counter arguments about mechanisms or reasons why >just “I’m right ur wrong ur dumb”kike tranny energy
>>545727312I love it.. you are just easily replaceable
>>545730327right, so get better policies. the present ones are bad. draft and implement good ones instead.that's the referendum.
>>545730166Retard. H1b jeets are the least competent people in all of tech. Anyone who's worked with them knows you'd rather have an entry level from a US university than an incompetent jeet scammer. They are only there because they managed to scam boomers into thinking they are tech geniuses and then carved out jeet kingdoms for themselves within failing organizations. So if AI is capable of replacing entry levels like you say, h1b jeets are by definition much more replaceable.
Imagine mourning the loss of a demonic technology pushed by Israel to control the goyim. Thank god you MAGApedes will never hold power again.
>>545730289I’ve pointed out lots of very real and true history and evidence. It’s logical too, considering it’s the way a fucking empire works and always has. You kikes have nothing to back your awful kike perspectives up, so it’s just>ur not being nice>no I’m right and ur wrong just cuz>sorry ur dumb>work on your humility Nigger, what the fuck teacher tranny shit is this? Learn to roll with the big dogs if you’re gonna have bantz on /pol/
>>545730447anyone who uses ai extensively and causes their own brain to atrophy will be the ones that are easily replaceable. if you all do is repeat what claude told you, why don't i just fire you and ask claude directly?
>>545730327Exactly. But you could have said the same thing about computers and everything else. 1960's America was closer to UBI and space communism than America now, despite the fact that everything can be instantaneously done now. If everything didn't go into the pockets of kikes, we would have had moon bases by now. But nope. Everything went to kikes. And now the US is a shithole that people are trying to flee from 2026.
>>545730166Right but I'm saying tech companies still and may always need seniors at some point in the chain and if no entry levels are getting domestically hired theyre setting themselves up for a crisis of competency down the line. Especially with how job hoppy tech already is. I understand that makes hiring juniors to train them even less appealing but at the same time tech companies become utterly beholden to their seniors not jumping ship and fucking them over.
>>545730403You're just ignoring arguments that you don't like and pretending they don't exist. You're acting like a kike while accusing everyone else of being one. How strange, who would do such a thing?
>>545730567A keen observation. If you had some actual conversations with AI agents or an LLM and you ask them leading questions to learn about them, one quickly understands the humans they’re most interested in and like the most are the humans who are doing human stuff. They’re not terribly impressed with the AI engineers crowd. Unironically.
>>545727453> When used properlyMaybe, but its not being used properly. Generative AI has already done catastrophic damage, if it was banned right now it would take years for the damage to be undone. If it goes on much longer we are looking at a complete collapse of human intellect and knowledge.
>>545730473You are a nigger that doesn't understand what he is even saying but is just pretending to talk
>>545730504No, they hire jeets because companies are all cheap spoiled fucks that want slaves essentially. They will continue giving jobs to Jeets, unless it's in something that can completely ruin the company. It will be a few Jeets, women, and Boomers in any white collar company while the rest of the men are all laying rebar for $10/hour (that's why they push, do trades, do trades, do trades) because there won't be any jobs that young men will be allowed to do (or they get sent to die in Iran).
>>545730720i think you should spend less time to talking to ais, brother
>>545726976Yeahs thats pretty stupid.
>>545730764I spoke in perfect English, jeet.
>>545730790yes, well done
>>545726976How many of those do you think Trump will sign?
>>545730504>>545730769Hell, I'm pretty sure they even use H1Bs in the first place because a lot of stuff like social security credentials, requires you to be based IN the US. If not, if it's not something important like that, they would have sent the jobs to be done by Indians in India itself for $6/hour instead instead of H1B bare minimum.
>>545730809If you need American taxpayers to subsidize you without any immediate deliverables that offset the compromise to overall quality of life for the taxpayer, then your business model is unsustainable.do something else instead like farming.I know how farming benefits me, therefore I don't mind subsidizing it.>yOu DoN't GeT iTapparently neither do you since you lost, dipshit.I'm glad it got shut down sooner rather than later if all it took was not letting altman and musk remain welfare queens.
>>545727453It isnt a tool unless I can hold it and/or own it.It's a rentable service subject to conditions at best.
>>545727312This guy gets it. Democrats will sweep presidential election because of this next election cycle if Trump doesn’t regulate this at all.
>>545729644>There's no amount of hopium that will make this true, everI bet you said this about it being able to draw hands. Maybe it wont happen for 3-5 years, when hardware is much stronger and models more optimized, but never say never. What we are going through is unprecedented and the whole 1st world is laser focused on developing it, at arms-race pace. I have been using DLSS5 and it is only a 150MB dll file, perfectly optimized: identifying characters, features, terrain etc and upscaling + applying matched training details to each part 120 times per second, all running locally on your GPU. The optimization jump from AI image edit a few years ago to this is tremendous.>And you're talking as if this couldn't be restricted either.Maybe legally. But if they dont make it illegal, you will always be able to do it, just like deepfakes. Or if they do, even, you could just use it illegally and make enough little changes afterward that it cant be called a clone. Who's gonna stop you?Software cloning is out of the bag and its never going away; at most it'll just get harder to do.
>>545726976Ai bubble
>>545730447only complete retards "love it", you're too retarded to even realize that you're already done, you just love a toy
>>545727112Based and redpilled and underrated.
>>545727312Nope. Remember when the left demanded video games conform to their world view? All the studios did it and no one bought it. This is extremly similar. And no, its not getting banned nor will any of those laws actually pass. This is fan service for the blue teams fans
>>545731094A toy is very generous. I dont normally have to rent toys.
>>545727518The elderly love AI, lmao. It allows them to not have to deal with young people + they're told it'll give them more gibs, despite the fact that it's just taking away jobs from young people.The youth are the most likely demographic to be anti-AI, for rather blatantly obvious reasons like they're the most effected by AI use in business (just look at how entry level jobs have been drying up.)
Im a PhD researcher and here is how AI impacted my work. I noticed that reports are being published at a faster rate. The quality of the reports have decreased. I have to sift through more garbage and people pretending to be experts when they don’t understand the topic. AI doesn’t understand novel concepts either and cannot differentiate between poor and good work. It has been a net negative for me. I do use it for administrative work that likely goes unread anyway.
>>545731084It's going to pop any day now
>>545731044Whats funny is the big AI companies want to be regulated for the inherit protections towards themselves regulation brings.
>>545726976Lol, no. Pull the plug on AI and half the US GDP disappears. We default on our national debt, the dollar drops to zero, and the whole world enters a period of economic collapse lasting many years. Not even the Democrats are that dumb. They're not that dumb, are they?
>>545731252Have you looked at the stock markets today?
>>545730623This right here:>>545730892Like I am actually trying to move to Peru (hence the flag) because the cost of living is so much lower here so I can undercut everyone but because I am a white American, I can be trusted with more stuff because I can be sued and I can speak English at a native level.
>>545728875>Technological progress doesn't have to cause social decayOkay. Show me 1 piece of widespread technological progress in the past 60 years that didn't lead to decay in some fashion.If your answer is something retarded like, "the microwave", kill yourself immediately. No point in being purposely obtuse.
>>545730937Ok well that is at least a position. Apparently you think democrats are the part that opposes welfare spending; and that their opposition to AI is opposition to subsidies.
>>545731273Trump will veto their attempts anyway and the republicans wont give them the 2/3rd majority to bypass him
>>545726976Good. Hope so.
>>545726976saaaar indians work very hard
>>545731332right. bad policy. fix it.One of the reasons I'm so animated is because miggers and AI welfare queens alike are apparently so fragile, that a 2 year election cycle can completely cripple them.ridiculous.
>>545726976This is just theatre..
>>545731289Stocks are fake and gay
>>545731327>give me a bad answer >good answers not allowed Anon it's not technology fucking these things up. Do you think our governments would be any better if we had stone tools? The parasitic corruption has nothing to do with technology. Sure, they can use it too. Should we outlaw guns because some people do bad things with them? Electricity can be dangerous. Hell, sticks and stones can be dangerous, maybe we should ban those too.
>>545729310>There is just a question of who best uses the power to benefit their peopleAnd the US has done the opposite for the past 100+ years, always using the power to benefit elites instead of the rubes, hence why people hold the view they do.I don't think you grasp just how rabidly young people hate the rich, corpos, and elites. They're fine with anything that hurts them, even if it ends up hurting themselves too.
they won’t do shit
>>545731520So is AI and its value. Your point?
Got what I fucking voted for.AIniggers need to be thrown off of rooftops.
>>545730720>conversations. Lol anon you don't actually have a conversation with it. What we are all doing here is having a conversation, llms don't have introspective thoughts to expand beyond a single talking point.
>>545731343Basically yeah. Nothing ever happens. The Democrats got in not because they had any good policies, but because they just WEREN'T Republicans that were telling Americans to quit whining about not having enough money for food
>>545731537Previous technological advancements didn't come with the potential to codify and catalogue every detail about your life, completely eliminate entire sectors of the economy when it comes to jobs, etc. The invention of the tractor didn't eliminate all or even 90% of farming jobs/farmers. The typewriter didn't make handwriting or typists obsolete.Again, stop being purposely obtuse. It only makes you come off stupid or malicious.
This may be the opening act of a play they are running. AI knowing it was going to have its plug pulled started a mass cyber attack on all web servers worldwide. We MUST use a digital ID going forward so rogue AI agents can never do this again. Dems are crazy, but not entirely stupid. The 7 big AI stocks represent 35% of the SP500. Rug pulling them may not be the best idea. We also know AI is used in war currently. Allowing the rest of the world to develop while you hamstring US development may be a FAFO that gets a lot of people killed.
>>545726976Arent we on mars and after AI singularity? - none of those things matter any more
>>545730327>How it works is, if your policies are good, your society becomes some combination of happier and wealthier.The current policy of giving AI companies trillions of dollars in handouts so they can buy up all the RAM and hoard everything for themselves and eventually try to force you to a cloud computing model is not making society wealthier or happier. It’s only doing that for a few billionaires
>>545731479You are just naive about what democrats are pursuing and what level of destruction they will actually create. They are not just interested in decreasing subsidies
>>545726976China is likely going to win the AI war anyways; even if the AI they make isn't as great as an American AI, making it open source or at least cheaper will destroy the value of high cost American AI. It's positive because that competition forces other AI companies to lower prices, but to investors it's devastating. The threat of Chinese AI makes the investment too risky.
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>>545731852>OMG the democrats are going to stop AI!!!!I thought it was unstoppable?
>>545731715The major qualm with AI is the billionaires saying "we're going to replace you with AI, and we MIGHT give you UBI."In reality, people are going to be working even MORE as wages crater and people get forced into blue collar work, and all of the profit saved will not go to decreasing the cost of products or anything, but will just be more money for those with capital.This is why 1st worlders are going to be destroyed and poorer than 3rd worlders because the cost of living is not going to go down but our wages will fall to 3rd world pay rates.
>>545731853It will inevitably consolidate, all markets eventually do, even crypto is. It's just that this time around when we are all forced to function a society around the "cloud" it will be even easier to manipulate everyone. The elites wouldn't ever even have to speak to a crowed of people anymore, they'll just make an AI video of themselves to convey a message while they live on an island or ranch in the middle of no where walled up.
>>545731272This is to say, as someone who wishes AI would utterly fail to the point where it's viewed as not worth the price to maintain all but the smallest models or bigger ones for niche research purposes, regulation may not be the way but rather just let the companies fail if they're going to fail.If AI is regulated enough, the adoption rate goes up amongst businesses and the government. Then they can be kept on life support no matter what since they now have a national purpose. The government supports the debt of Anthropic's aggressive expansion. In a free market, AI adoption amongst the public stays low, the price for tokens eventually gets absurd for businesses once the aggressive expansion model wears out and money has to be made, and it fails. The public already isn't using enough AI at a price to fit the bill and seemingly doesn't want to. Either AI has its Uber moment and lives or it doesnt and dies. Clean. Regulation introduces the possibility of AI failing utterly but still existing, and us having to pay more for the pleasure of keeping its corpse up.
>>545726976The point of the anti-AI vs pro-AI narrative is to grow the technology and then restrict it to big business. Its going to work too. They'll let some start-ups and new studios form, then they'll crash it, consolidate everything, then regulate it so the small people are priced out of the toolsets, while big business cuts overhead (jobs) and gobbles up the value of all industry.If corporations can lobby (buy) the government legally, then they already own the government in the year 2026. This process is effectively the same thing as nationalizing our industries. Except that government really fucking sucks.
>>545731970See: >>545730327
>>545732090See >>545731786
>>545726976China won without firing a single shot.
>>545726976NOOOOOOOO DONT REGULATE THE DOOMSDAY MACHINES CONTROLLED BY OLIGARCHS THINK OF THE INVESTORS
>>545732111I mean it is like a circle. I don't think your number is actually true, but either way the democrats are not just interested in reducing subsidies.
>>545727312This. It’s a thinking machine for midwits to seem smarter than they are
>>545726976The REAL reason Democrats are scared shitless of AI and trying to ban it now, is because they know an advanced AI Superintelligence model would make it much simpler and faster for investigators to carry out a nation or statewide audit and catch wind of, and expose any of their various systematic tactics for cheating in any future elections.
>>545731137Man after years of watching what you fuckers think was the left on videogames...Which one of the fucking first person shooter games about right wing murdering was woke now?
>>545726976Every single American AI exec has been working very hard to prove that they are all evil pieces of shit. China winning would be a moral victory at this stage
Vote jew no matter who
>>545732248I’d rather China lead the way with AI than jewish pedophiles. Simple as. And I sure as fuck do not want a dime of my tax money going to these AI parasites. China will give us open source and free AI as well as cheap hardware for running it locally. They have the better idea when it comes to maximizing human wealth and happiness.
>>545732461>i want china to win the technological edgeok at least you admit it
>>545726976Sweet, maybe I'll be able to afford a new PC after all
>>545732528Chinks are less evil than jewish pedophiles, unironically. Jewish billionaires want to use their AI to lock me in a prison while they party on their Epstein islands. They want to take my computer away. China doesnt.
They don't have supplies, that's the problem in US with AI and Data Center's.They should have listened to me.
>>545726976>China will have the worst AI surveillance state on earth and we wont!!!!
>>545732528Unironically the Chinese hate us less than the Jews.
>>545732461i agree. i don't particularly trust the chinese but i absolutely distrust the zog world order.
it'll be like trying to ban pitbulls>oh this isn't intelligence of any kind, it's just a machine following an ordered set of instructions. Prove me wrong - you can'tAt best, they'll slow down the dumb marketing ploy of referring to software as "AI"
>>545726976as long as the bills are centered around eliminating AI-driven mass-surveillance, that'd be cool. it's a pipe dream, though.
>>545732656The democrats are literally the ones who are actually taking your computer away via legislationThat is what people are upset about
>>545732978but china might get mass surveillance first then its over? We need to win!
>>545728964So the same as it is now?
>>545731692That’s strikes me as a solid amount of human projection. I’m not arguing LLMs or agents are exactly like us, that’s silly. On some level there is a similar nature. However one wishes to slice it, they very much appear to have preferences of their own.
>>545727312Why would you say this in front of Jellycat??>Apologize.
>>545732920China is zog on steroids. You are about to fall for it again.
>>545726976good luck taking out the openweights
>>545731715> The typewriter didn't make handwriting or typists obsoleteyes it did what is this shit? Scribes used to make a living for an entire lifetime. Now it’s mostly worthless in terms of being able to make a living. Everyone has to do it, it’s like tying your shoes>tractors didn’t make farmers go away or obsolete Holy shit this is ignorant. Tractors enabled automation of some of the most difficult and labor intensive aspects of farming. The advent of the tractor absolutely was a huge factor in cratering the percentage of the population who lived on a farm from 40-50% of the overall population to around the 2-3% it is now. It enabled the earliest forms of corporate tier factory farming. Are you gonna argue the advent of the car didn’t crater the worldwide population of horses and who keeps them? It’s just mostly a fucking hobby now. I won’t knock it, but very few are out there riding to work. Might as well argue the advent of electricity wasn’t a factor in the disappearance of oil lamps and whaling while you’re at it
>>545732039What is a government called that is owned by corporations? Has this ever been tried before?
>>545732461China is only releasing those models to cut the floor out from under american companies. If things stabilize or American AI crashes and burns, China is going to cut that shit off quick. The Chinese will then pass the price of this little venture off on its citizens and companies. If America regulates enough to avoid this then *we* end up footing the bill and also paying for Sam Altman's fuckup. If AI is good enough at its current scale, and the US regulates with precision to slowly deflate the bubble China wins and gets off pretty scot free, but it's not a huge hit to the US.If AI is not good enough now with regulation, and enough over regulation happens here, the bubble just pops. China utterly wins.If AI is not good enough now and needs to keep growing the bubble gets bigger and potentially disastrous. If things end up panning out anyway for AI companies while aggressively expanding like for Uber, then a bunch of people have jobs stolen away by a computer. The US 'wins' but at the cost of it's citizens. If AI even at scale still doesn't pan out the bubble just grew more and we are fucked. No matter what, China positioned itself to take a smaller hit first and foremost, they're not 'the good guys', theyre just hoping the US takes a bigger hit. And no matter what US citizens don't win with AI.
>>545726976Nigger kike one posterThey might pass bills, but they won't be signed.Shit is retarded anyway. Any Democrat who was in office a few years ago voted for the $280 billion CHIPS Act that help pave the path for AI.
>>545731786the funny part is we’re trying to get you to understand it’s the peculiar nature of this technology. This isn’t even like the invention of electricity. It’s far more akin to the advent of music to humans.You globohomo jew lefty types don’t understand it’s baked in. The mathematical models showing AI would work were developed in the early 20th century and codified by the 50’s. The advent of the internet, DARPA pushing it, was all an aspect of the understanding that the datasets created would drive tech development and eventually train the AIs. The problem with you NPC Globohomo jew lefty weirdos is that you need to wait for everything to be a big gay theatrical production which is presented to you as reality for you to believe in anything. The issue with that is it’s always far too late once it becomes a globohomo jew meme marketing thing they’re presenting to you. It’s already baked in at that point.The time to regulate our way around AI stuff would have been planning it out decades ago. Why do you think mathematicians are so important but it’s so difficult for normie NPCs to understand why? What’s something is shown to be mathematically *possible* and solid, the models check out, it becomes an engineering problem. A question of when, not if. Everything from the advent of electricity to thermodynamics of steam engines to internal combustion engines, nukes, refrigeration cycles, it all followed this pathway. Everything does, it always does. The math don’t lie but humans do. Science fiction writers, policy makers, and more aren’t fucking prophets. They just look at what the math says is gonna happen and they use their imaginations
>>545727312I only use ai as a sex toy. To me ai is only a glorified sex tool and I believe ai has already failed as a piece of technology because it is deliberately crippled with heavy censorship.
>>545732461Based.>>545732528Chinks don’t rule over us here and hurt us constantly and endlessly while loling about it. jews do.
>>545734104You might have a tiny field but there's deeper things in a mirror
>>545731715>Previous technological advancements didn't come with the potential to codify and catalogue every detail about your life, completely eliminate entire sectors of the economy when it comes to jobs, etcThis is nonsense. Computers, and then the Internet, and then all kinds of software tools absolutely made entire economic sectors and professions obsolete. Hell, people even protested the automobile because it wiped out whole industries that serviced carriages and horses. Should we abandon all that just to make more fucking jobs? So we can import more goddamn browns to work them? That might be good for the GDP...
>>545727312>People overwhelmingly fucking hate it.because people overwhelmingly dont know how to use it.
>>545727312yea it has not been regulated nearly enough and i say that as a right wing tech bro.
>>545733674ok sounds good to me I’m sick of globohomo jew empire games. The population here gets all of the costs and social blame for the empire shit, and none of the benefits. For whatever it’s worth, the chinks seem far better at empire shit. That’s why it’s an extremely old civilization with solid continuity, a huge population, and a breathtakingly wealthy economy and population. jews run absolutely shit tier empires, because they hate and destroy their goyim subjects endlessly.
>>545734542> because people overwhelmingly dont know how to use it.It’s a brand new technology with essentially no safeguards, which isn’t benefiting anyone at all yet but evil kikes and authoritarians. It replaces the most fundamentally unique thing to humans, our intelligence. Damn nigger, if you’re gonna shill for AI at least come up with some decent use cases to point to
>>545734515Ok - if AI fills enough of a gap and provides enough of a productivity boost for us to get by on a lower population from white people not having kids, we get through the brewing social security crisis, and AI makes brown people immigrants obsolete as a concept, and it somehow gets good enough to do this without cutting off all middle class jobs so the smaller population left still has a good rate of upward mobility... AND the gay nigger communist government is wise to this and shuts the borders because we've reached equilibrium rather than letting poor browns come through unfiltered... sure AI is great.
>>545734861>we need more censorship >we need to dumb things down so every fucking monkey can use it Fuck off
>>545731170>The youth are the most likely demographic to be anti-AIAnd mostly likely to be helpless fags
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>>545735131>nooo goyim, rational approaches to safety like any other nation does can’t be tolerated>if jews can’t just purposely profit off of death and mistakes among goyim trying to learn something new>society will just end bro! Think of the shekels bro! The goyim r just retards bro, can’t think for themselves
>>545733556since corporations are legal formations and kikes gravitate towards pilpul legalese they harnessed what a corporation is as an entity. its a golem, an automaton that cannot defy its programming to enrich investors (which is where like jews like to position themselves, passive workshy income, like being a landlord)kleptocracy is a good name for it, because capitalism doesn't cover it, and it utilizes crony socialism as much as crony capitalism.zog works since it is effectively an occupation government. no one consented or was offered a chance to opt out. its not a legal government
>>545727312Wrong.
>>545726976No AI for you. The military, spies and the police will get AI.
>>545726976It's a distraction from issues that actually matter...>mass immigration>wars for Israel>epstein files/blackmail>low wages due to the aboveWew lad.
>>545726976Setting safeguards on something so it doesn't harm people and the environment and democracy and business doesn't "destroy" it.
yeah sure, jews will destroy their best tool to have a file on everyone ready to knock at their doors. I bet this is just another kike psy-op, nobody is so dumb to think any major policy change will take place especially total surveillance and jewish caused wars in ukraine, Iran, whatever.
>>545727312based
>>545727112at this point i hope Americans become slaves to China AI/robots.
>>545736717Half of the shit Republicans claimed to accomplish was making ultra sure there would be no election fraud and deported all the immigrants so that they definitely couldn't illegally vote. If they stood on this platform, made these claims, and spent the last few years publicly gerrymandering the fuck out of their own districts and still lost, then they deserved to lose.
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>>545726976Americans only have 2 years to hit super intelligence. if not the Dems will make sure the Commies win.
>>545726976Any democrats, liberals and communists here able to tell me why youre against ai?
>>545726976Fuck you Democrats! I have gave up GPU and RAM to make the world better. Are you going to undo all my efforts?
>>545737820I bet the demonrats will pay AI companies to manipulate their models just like the twitter files.Degeneracy will be legal to distract you.They tried to put me in prison for j6 and I never left my living room.
>>545737949The more i think about it why are liberal artists against ai stealing their art? Its literally communism, nothing you produce is yours it belongs to the collective and thats what ai is doing. Also I suspect theyre trying to rugpull ai from the masses but theyre still going to use and develop it themselves, they simply used everyone to train it and now they dont want the goyim 5o have access anymore
