Why don't leftists understand "free healthcare" comes out of their wages anyway?
>>545729909Stfu and kys lolberg
>>545729909Why you think they have a problem with sharing?Projecting right wing feelings I see
>>545729909They want wages to save lives instead of end them. You poisoned untold gallons of water to make this absolutely retarded comic
>>545729909It doesn't, they don't have wages. They already live off gibs
>>545729909Fuck em.
>>545729909Good point OP. I'd rather my taxes go towards Israel and the military and bank bailouts instead.
>>545729909>miggers: "WE'RE ALL GOING TO GET $5000 WORTH OF FREE MONEY IF THE MIGGERS WIN!">also miggers: "You know that that universal health insurance comes from taxpayers, right?"Another election losing meme from the faggot party.
>>545730084that's not how data centers work, you have no idea what anything is and you are physically incapable of learning.
>>545729909stfu and pay your taxes faggot
>>545729909Because they're idiots.
>>545729909Be the governmentWho made this Capitol?Is free we don't pay for itAnd who pays my salary?The people with their taxes is free you don't have to work for it just get electedWho paid for the roads and public spaces?They are free they were donation or a purchase made by governments before us who weren't thinking about it being anything but free to youThen the right wing man saysAm entitled to this
>Tax money being used for Israeli wars>Tax money being used to fund Trump's whims>Tax money being used to bailout AI companies:)>Tax money being used for the benefit of Americans:(
>>545729909If you take any taxes from me I'll ask for the most amount of free shit possible. Why wouldnt I? I'm getting taxed regardless I might as well get something back
>>545729909>had to get a machine to make his point for himLol
>>545729909I want the government to kill billionaires and give me all their shit. I don't really understand what's so complicated about that.
>>545729909Where's the third frame of you still getting taxed, but half of that money going to wars for Israel?
>>545730624>give me all their shit.But they don't even have anything.You could liquidate all of their shit and after it gets divided amongst all the workers, you might get $200 or something, thats it
>>545729909They don't have these "wages"
>>545730010>Stfu and kys lolbergGonna cry over Libertarians being right about everything? lmao
>>545730084It's literally your own money tho, they take it and give you back less of it
>>545729909>ChatGPT, help me, I'm retarded!
>>545729909"Democrats are socialists" mfs when they're about to lose an election:
So my healthcare now does not come out of my wages?This open enrollment must be lying to me then
>>545729909>implying they workIt comes out of YOUR wages which is why theyre all for it
>>545730787>It's literally your own money tho, they take it and give you back less of itAlmost like an insurance program.
>>545729909Why don't rightoids understand we're paying taxes anyway and can cover all Healthcare costs with what was spent on bombing Iran for 2 days
>>545729909They think it comes from billionaires because somehow in their minds they think they can come up with a tax scheme that billionaires cant find a way to avoid.They're stupid, which is why they're also poor.
>>545729909The US spends more tax dollars than any other country on health care even though the government doesn't provide a public health care service. This is because the US government gives the money to private institutions.True public health care has a cost in taxes but it still saves you money because it drives down medical costs. Private clinics and hospitals will have to compete with public facilities serving people at a 0$ pricetag, so they will have to lower their prices. The US government does the opposite policy and showers the private sector with money, causing price inflation
>>545729909it doesn’t. It comes from White people’s wages.
>>545729909and? lmao its cheaper than personal insurance, and even cheaper if you tax the rich. your retard scare tactic + using ai shows how fucking retarded you are
>>545730078If they believed in sharing they would just donate to charity.The only reason to rely on the state is because you want to redistribute someone elses money.
>>545730098your boy elon must wants to give out UBI and is promising gibs, surely you're against that too right?
>>545730084And here's more of their scientifically illiterate bullshit
>>545730930I think you meant to say extortion.
>>545730962>and can cover all Healthcare costs with what was spent on bombing Iran for 2 daysbut you literally can't. I am against israel and the war, but the war is a drop in the bucket and wouldnt come close to funding healthcare
>>545730484>building infrastructure is the same thing as wealth redistribution.Kill yourself
>>545730971>This is because the US government gives the money to private institutions.nah it's because the US government heavily intervenes in the healthcare market, making it expensive.
>>545731052>scientifically illiteratei think you're too retarded to even know what this even means
>>545731018>The only reason to rely on the state is because you want to redistribute someone elses money.>GUYS! GUYS! WE HAVE TO VOTE FOR THE REPUBLICANS OR WE WON'T GET OUR $5000 OF FREE MONEY GUYS! IT'S FREE MONEY GUYS!
>>545730930Why do you think we hate insurance?Just open a savings account, god damm.Why are you all so fucking stupid?
>>545729909They can't manage their own money and save up by themselves for their future and eventual emergencies. That's why they need wealth redistribution
>>545731178>Why do you think we hate insurance?Because you're a retarded migger.
>>545731169dont forget the right wing retards cheering on actual communism, the government taking part of companies
>>545731141Didn't read but handing 30% of the federal budget to private health care companies contributes much more to price inflation in the sector than anything that could be possibly written there
>>545729909lol i bet whoever made that pic thought they were doing something insightful and revelatorypresumably about 14 years old
>>545729909>paying taxesThats the issue. They arent paying taxes
>>545731147Do you?Democrats think data centers contaminate water supplies.They're fucking idiots who dont know anything about the world and act based on feels alone
>>545729909We pay twice as much in a way that can't be fully explained by cost disease.
>>545729909ONE...
>>545731220Quit being a nigger, save your money.Stop buying stupid bullshit and you can afford things.FuckBe honest, how many times a week do you eat fast food?Be honest.
They understand just fine. They think that's a good thing because they don't have any money so they will benefit from you paying for their medical expenses. It's communism just without calling it that. The leeches will always be all for communism.
>>545731018>you want to redistribute someone elses money.That's all taxes, though. What you want it to be spent on is the question.
>>545729909Because with a single payer system we all pay less.
>>545731275since you right wing retards LOOOOOVE ai like OP, i'll answer with AI so you'll accept reality kike >How Data Centers Affect Water Quality• Chemical Additives: Evaporative cooling systems require chemical treatments—such as biocides
>>545730159>>545730548Literally no one is advocating for that shit here lmao what fucking planet are you on? Do you fall for every piece of propaganda?
>>545731401>The free $5000 was just propagandaWhy do you hate MAGA you fucking communist
>>545731352>TELL ME ABOUT FOOD! TELL ME ABOUT FUCKING FOOD I'M SO FUCKING FAT I JUST WANT TO HEAR ABOUT FOOD!lol it's the old avocado toast argument, eh? haven't heard that one in a while. I think I'll just keep enjoying my health insurance though AND saving my money for retirement rather than getting bill raped by some hospital lolEnjoy the untreated diabetes though.
>>545729909They dont have wages.
>>545731401who wants falling for which part? the 5k checks? the shit the right wingers are STILL saying>YOU LE COULD OF HAD 5K IF YOU VOTED FOR TRUMP FUCKING LIBTARDS!!you want screen shots ranjeet?>tax money for israeli warsthis is both sides>tax money being used to fund trumps whimstrump bragged about HE controls the purse and HE decides>tax money to bail out AItrump said he'd bail out AI. these things are all what trump fucking said and you think its propaganda?
>>545731391All uses of water including water just running around in natural rivers "pollutes and degrades water resources" in those ways.
>>545729909>The Fed prints trillions of dollars of monopoly funny money for (((banks))) Keynes was right, you can just create industries out of thin air. You can simply use monetary policy to influence society with nothing stopping you besides Jews. The problem with lolberts is that they make the classic mistake of thinking America’s debt based fiat economy and (((federal reserve banks))) operate like a broke goyim at the grocery store.
>>545731391that's why everyone wants to move from evap to closed loop, retard
>>545731448>completely missing what I saidLearn how to read retard
>>545730185Not an argument>>545731178>Just pay the $2 million operation cash bro>>545730787Go to Somalia, then. No taxes there.
>>545729909>>545730971There's another aspect to this that I didn't mention: public health care doesn't need to be exclusively funded by taxes but it can also be funded by oil royalties. This happens in several countries, including mine.
>>545729909The point of free health care is to give health care to poor people who don't pay very much in taxes.
>>545729909>Israeli OP hides behind memeflag>Israeli gets free healthcare>Israeli healthcare paid by US>Israeli laments US leftist healthcare>Israeli keeps quiet about Israeli gibsWhat did Jew mean by this?
>>545731240>Didn't read but handing 30% of the federal budget to private health care companiesyeah if you read, you would understand that the system is rigged in their favorthe problem is government intervention>>545731247I see something so simple and effective has forced you into an autistic rage.
>>545731401Leaf MAGA are the biggest fucking loser cucks on the planet.
>>545731018Yes? You are implicitly saying that "other people" do not want to donate to charity. Getting everyone on board to donate to charity would be the goal, as you said. Why are you saying this like it's some kind of magical mystical point that only you have noticed?
>>545729909Kek leftists don't work they're nepo babies living off Mommy and Daddy
>>545731644>No taxes there.There are though. What the fuck are you talking about? Do you think it's 2005 or something?Also that shit happened because somalia was a failed socialist state
>>545729909>comes out of their wages anyway?what wages? if they had wages they would not be commies
>>545731875They're mostly meth heads.
>>545729909Republicans were already forcing us to pay for every Israeli to have free healthcare, so now we're just going to spend that money on ourselves instead.
>>545732033That is not an argument
>>545729909Its not my money because I paid far less taxes that what I received. Why should I care about rich people losing money? I love individualism!
>>545732112How? the math doesnt work outI want to nuke israel, but if you cut them out of the picture each person gets back like $100 a year or something.
>>545729909>free healthcareIt is collectively funded so that everyone can receive a healthcare. For example, the NHS covers any health condition you may have, even if the problem was caused by a pre-existing health condition.
>>545730813I thought rightwingers hated free handouts? You should be glad about the election result.
>>545731240>handing 30% of the federal budget to private health care companiesWhat are you advocating for? Government run hospitals, operated by government employee doctors, that have to work government mandated overtime for a wage set by the government?That sounds appealing to you?
>>545729909>spend 9000 on private healthcare, including co-pays and shit>spend 3000 on public healthcare though taxesOMG IT'S COMZING OUT OF MY WAGEZ
>>545732244>It is collectively funded so that everyone can receive a healthcare. For example, the NHS covers any health condition you may have, even if the problem was caused by a pre-existing health condition.How's that working out for you britooth?
>>545731111I have money, I build school, you use school to learn Wealth redistributedI have no clue how could not be
>>545729909Implying the ones getting the handouts are the ones paying taxImplying welfare is nothing but a scheme for bureaucrats to skim at the top and buy voters
>>545732342>spend 3000 on public healthcare though taxes>OMG IT'S COMZING OUT OF MY WAGEZWhy exactly do you think you would pay less?
>>545730010>i will attack you because I don't want you to point out reality
>>545732374I have never seen a medical bill.
>>545732535>Why exactly do you think you would pay less?alot of private middlemen are removed.do you know we have entire buildings dedicated for insurance claims in US?
>>545732430>you charge me some market price to attend school. Sounds gay. I'd rather my taxes go to an elected committee in my local riding to fund a local school board where I can go and bitch at them if there's an issue. In your scenario if I bitch about it you'll just laugh and say go find another school or some shit.
>>545732761Why would I charge you a price to be in school? is not only a right but an obligation
>>545729909It doesnt. The money is loaned into existence. Taxes are to pay the interest on that debt.
>>545729909We do understand that. That's what we want. That's literally the point. It'll be far less expensive and for impoverished people, they will get most of it back in their refund. For people who are in a higher income bracket, they can enjoy an overall lower cost for healthcare. The only reason you wouldn't want this is if you are stupid or do not care about your health... which honestly both instances amounts to you being stupid. I'd suggest not dragging down the rest of us by being a retarded nigger.
>>545729909>comes out of their wages anywayit would come out of the money given to israel and all the wars that we are in, actually
>>545729909Because they are welfare recipients and don’t have wages
>>545730159nobody believed there would even be a 5k handout here you mouthbreathing jeet
>>545732834Because no one does anything for free. Especially if you have the capital to front an entire school and sustain it. Pro capitalists are delusional, just like socialists.
>>545729909Rich people are like pinatas. Tie them up and beat them til the candy comes out.
>>545729909you think those retarded commies pay taxes? if they work at all it would be some low paid cash in hand shit like a barista
>>545730010oh, that's very mature
>>545730722Sounds pretty good. I'd take that deal.
yeah my taxes going to stuff for me instead of kikes is pretty great
>>545730078>sharingTaxes is not sharing. It's a subscription fee.
>>545733193Do you want the cost of living to come down? 40% of Americans carry national debt. You know how much other western countries have? 0%, retard. Kys hog.
>>545732911>nobody believed there would even be a 5k handout here you mouthbreathing jeetMiggers did, because they're retards. They were so stupid they even thought they were going to win the election lol
>>545733346*medical>>545733193Also you're a kangaroo nigger. Your country literally has had Medicare for all for the last 40 years. Shut the fuck up about american politics retard.
>>545729909Taxes are and have always been a means to generate demand for centralized currency and redistribute resources at the discretion of the state. All state power is coercion, which libertarians dislike becuase it reminds them of the times they were rightfully bullied and had their lunch money taken in school, except when the coercion involves themselves trying to have sex with a minor.
>>545732337Umm yes? That's normal in many countries
>>545729909
>>545729909Anything is worth it for free helathcare!
>>545733559Based and truthpilled.
>>545730624Because both of you; the billionaire and the gibs taker, are a pox on society
>>545729909>government takes $100 a month out of your paycheck to pay for medicaid for all>miggers: "THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!">employer takes $150 out of your paycheck for health insurance with a deductible>miggers: "WHAT A GREAT DEAL! THANK YOU PRIVATE SECTOR!"
>>545729909do you have insurance?
>>545733559true, trump is a socialistwhy do you still support socialism?
>>545729909Leftists have empathy to help others you low IQ mongo.
>>545729909As if they work.
>>545731938Give me one example of a successful libertarian society
>>545730787>they take it and give you back less of itYes, and you get things like healthcare and roads fuck boi.
>>545730109>militaryYep, let's have a weak military so we can get raped by every other country.>Tax money being used for the benefit of AmericansYou mean niggers, single mothers, and people who can't manage their own health.
>>545733559LMFAO!
>>545733905>Leftists have empathy to help othersHow about the tens of millions of workers you killed in the countries you've been in power?
>>545733946>stealing some of my money for worse care is "collective wellbeing"lol lmao even>>545734032>steal your money>spend 15% of it on roads and healthcareSee I helped you goyim!!!
>>545734006>>545734497
>>545735278there is none, there are just countries that got the closest to the idea, and those places were extremely succesfuldecent example is USA from after the civil war until 1913
>>545729909Leftists understand that they pay into a system, and they want to pay into something that benefits them vs rightoids who pay into a system, bitch and make memes, and all benefits go to massive corporations, boomers, and Israel.
>>545731047Yes. Not my boy. He's a spergtard niggerfaggot who survives off of state protectionism so he's spiritually your boy.Learn economics, don't post again until you can define the economic resource allocation problem. Repeat the following phrase until you stop being gay: under capitalism the wrong people eat, under communism nobody eats.Finally, go fuck yourself. Moron.
>>545729909I know it's my money. Id much rather my money go to healthcare for me fellow citizens and people who genuinely need instead of >Checks notesBombing the rest of the world
>>545736870>Bombing the rest of the worldsee: >>545732172
>>545732172>How could we, the richest country on Earth, possibly afford to do the thing that every backwards podunk western country can manage to afford?
>>545731512Retard. "Trump said" was never an argument. He can hand out $5000 checks to everyone just like he can bail out AI, so not at all.
>>545729909insurance also comes out of my wages, except with gay ambiguous restrictions
>>545729909Why do conservatives want their taxes to go to Israel instead of back to Americans?I know full well my universal healthcare is payed for by my taxes, everyone who live sin a county with universal healthcare knows this. But lets break it down for you.I pay taxes, those taxes fund my healthcare.You pay taxes that go to Israel, you pay insurance premiums so the insurance companies can tell you they don't cover what you need, and you pay out of pocket on top of that. Americans end up paying more over all in a year just to get stitches stitches then I pay for full lab work an MRI and surgery in that same year.If you stopped giving your money to Israel and funding corporate welfare for billionaires, you could unironiclaly have universal healthcare without needing to raise your taxes. But thats never going to happen because Isreal needs your money, and billionaires need to get million dollar bailouts every year in corporate welfare because the poor poor billionaires need the handouts because conservatives are the single biggest defenders of the WEF and will stay impoverished so the poor poor billionaires in the WEF never lose any money or influence. Seriously if rightoids hated the WEF they would support policies that hurt the WEF such as taxing billionaires, but they don't, because the WEF owns and operates right wing parties and has made sure "doing anything to hurt the bank accounts of billionaires is bad" has become a core conservative ideology.
>>545729909We pay for healthcare 3 times. We pay for Medicare, we pay insurance and we pay taxes to insurance companies.
>>545733011You don't get it, once made is just there, all the owners could die and be as free as possible but you just don't believe in free because your brain is wired badly
>>545729909> their wagesThey don't work.
>>545729909we have bottom right now without top btw
>>545737325>every other country forces worse healthcare on their population so why shouldn't we copy them?I dont want waiting lines and lower quality care
Reminder US private healthcare industry is a billion dollar industry that people pay into and still doesn't do shit. $400 monthly premiums, $5000 deductibles, $15,000+ OOP costs for certain procedures. They will nickle and dime you, then delay your procedures if you have cancer so you die quicker instead of hanging on for years requiring expensive treatment and post OP care. These corporations buy out our politicians and spread propaganda like OP to try to convince the people that it's not worth destroying their golden goose so that you can pay less in taxes for healthcare than you would these private corpos who have financial incentive to have you pay more and die sooner once you need them to pay.
>>545737959yeah I wonder why >>545734897
>>545737565Huh?? When did I ever insinuate something was free, that's you doing it. What I'm saying is, I would like some of my wages reallocated to a communal fund to not only a) help reduce inflationary processes, but b) use for a school system for my kids and neighbors., and c) other such public works.
>>545730624basically what's so complicated about that is computer systems the world makes use of and rocketry that advances the species towards building beyond this planet have immense value and jacking off onto anime figurines has none or maybe even negative value
>>545729909>"free healthcare" comes out of their wagesSuper funny if you think bioleninists are net taxpayers.
>>545729909Leftists want to hang out, smoke pot, and work 2 hours a week. That's why they like blacks, because they represent hanging out, smoking pot, and working 2 hours a week. In fact communism is where you work 14 hours a day.
In the Soviet Union, the eight-hour day was introduced four days after the October Revolution, by a Decree of the Soviet government in 1917. It was further reduced to seven-hour day in 1928, increased till seven-hour and eight-hour day during 1940–1956 (during the World War II and the following phase of recovery), and eventually settled into a standard 40-hour workweek by 1991.
>>545730084>paying for an aging obese population, immigrant mystery diseases, and child tranny surgeries.Infinite data centers is retarded, but healthcare for all is just as retarded, just let them die.
>>545740378it was much more complicated than that, almost everyone worked more than thathttps://nintil.com/the-soviet-union-working-hours/
The realistic outcome of public healthcare in America is one that would be a massive undertaking that at a base level would require unanimous support, it would essentially require ripping up whatever structures currently exist and would require pulling together numerous companies and services into a monolithic structure. Not necessarily in one existence, but all forming parts of the same house. Ignoring how unreasonable it is for the senate and house to unanimously agree on anything nowadays, good luck getting companies who are making absolute bank to form together. We're talking beyond what Teddy would've done. It would probably be harder than getting the entirety of the Senate or House to pass "the public healthcare act" or whatever. Obamacare or Medicare for All is not even half as close to what people think or believe a public healthcare system starts at and while I think literally no one likes that because it pleases no one, the magnitude of effort was small in comparison to what would've made those who want public healthcare happy. >>545738129Ironically, removing regulations on medical licenses and opening up your hospitals to anyone is exactly how you start getting people who can't speak the required language or who aren't actually qualified to see you. There's numerous public healthcare systems around the world that actually have lax regulations and there's a huge number of people in said systems who necessarily don't see people qualified to treat them. You do not want that. Insurance over direct payment was a tactic for employers to attract employees, even during the 50s and 60s, insurance was standard.Your insurance companies are corrupt and your bosses and employers don't give a shit like they used to back in the day. You have two paths here, one is a lot of work which I think Democrats and Republicans aren't able to do an the other is a cultural/societal issue in America that if fixed, could actually be healthy for the country.
>>545729909You pay the government money in taxes and in return get services out healthcare, police, roads, etc. instead of paying some jew corporation that cuts corners, overcharges and weasles their way or off providing it with service. What's the problem?
>>545729909Most leftists don't have jobs anon, so there's nothing to steal from.
>>545730084>"save lives">majority of people who get benefits are low income>majority of crime, including murder, are committed by low income peopleCrime rate is going to skyrocket when these barbaric peasants can murder in larger numbers.
>>545729909I'd explain why you're misrepresenting it, but lolberts are never good at learning things I find.And I dont communicate in dogma.
>>545743173How's that ban on incest porn going brit-anon? You upset you can't pretend to bang your 300lb/whatevercommunistkgs chav cousin?
>>545743876>but lolberts are never good at learning things I find.Then why did they end up being correct about everything after all of these years lmaoLook at the money printing, the national debt, the price of gold, the AI bubble, the housing bubble.It's so funny how you retards keep getting BTFO
>>545743911I don't watch porn and was unaware of this ban. What reaction were you hoping for from this question?
>>545737959What a weird fantasy you leftists have, I'm happy it isn't real.Do you just fetishize oppression or is it because you got molested?
>>545744023Just wondering why a brit gives a shit about our government to such an unhealthy degree. Seems like you have worse problems, like the fact you could get jailed for being a meanie on (Insert social media here).Or do you just like being here to mock dead school children like the rest of your country?
>>545729909Tyrants would distribute a quart of wheat, a gallon of wine, and a sesterce; and then it was a pitiful thing to hear the cry: Long live the King! The fools did not realize that they were merely recovering a portion of their own property, and that the tyrant could not have given them what they were receiving without having first taken it from them.
>>545730084If you want Americans to care about AI, you have to tell them that every time Elon or Altman builds a datacenter so jeets can ask grok to post AI generated flamebait, their electricity bill goes up an average of 10% each and every month for every new data center on the grid. Any American still using AI is either a complete fucking moron or rich enough not to care.
>>545733559kek
>>545744150>Just wondering why a brit gives a shit about our government to such an unhealthy degree.Nothing I posted suggested anything remotely suggesting this. On the other hand your seething is overt.
