Why are Holocaust denial claims so easy to debunk? Genuine question."Get it all on record now—get the films—get the witnesses—because somewhere down the road of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened." - Eisenhower, before visiting Ohdruf camp in 1945, seeing victims.Nazis don't even bother checking out actual history and rather "history" from nazi influencers
Soooo truuue. You're so right. Based?? I'm thinking BA-ZED!
>>545735156... and there is a genocide happening today, in the present, in Palestine. It is well-documented, and it is occurring right now, as we speak.
>>545735156most deniers have never actually researched it or read anything and get their information from memes
>The Nazis persecuted the Catholic Church,[84] with the Nazi leadership hoping to gradually de-Christianize Germany.[85][86][87] According to the World Holocaust Remembrance Center, "By the latter part of the decade of the Thirties, church officials were well aware that the ultimate aim of Hitler and other Nazis was the total elimination of Catholicism and of the Christian religion."[88] Political Catholicism was a target of Hitler's 1934 Night of the Long Knives.[89][90][91] German clergy, nuns and lay leaders were also targeted after the Nazi takeover, leading to thousands of arrests over the following years.[92] Priests who were part of the Catholic resistance were killed. Hitler's invasion of Catholic Poland in 1939 began World War II, and the Nazis targeted clergy, monks and nuns in their campaign to destroy Polish culture.
>German communists were among the first to be imprisoned in concentration camps.[75][76] Their ties to the USSR concerned Hitler, and the Nazi Party was intractably opposed to communism. Rumors of communist violence were spread by the Nazis to justify the Enabling Act of 1933, which gave Hitler his first dictatorial powers. Hermann Göring testified at Nuremberg that Nazi willingness to repress German Communists prompted Hindenburg and the old elite to cooperate with them. Hitler and the Nazis also despised German leftists because of their resistance to Nazi racism. Hitler referred to Marxism and "Bolshevism" as means for "the international Jew" to undermine "racial purity", stir up class tension and mobilize trade unions against the government and business. When the Nazis occupied a territory, communists, socialists and anarchists were usually among the first to be repressed; this included summary executions. An example is Hitler's Commissar Order, in which he demanded the summary execution of all Soviet troops who were political commissars who offered resistance or were captured in battle.
>>545735509That's right! Don't forget that about 1-3 million Catholics also died in the Holocaust. He hated Christians as well, even though he was raised one.>>545735408facts said
>>545735156Why are holocaust shills always retarded?
>>545735660I am asking deniers this. How does it feel believing an idea that has been factually disproven by academic sources?
>>545735653>Homosexual men were also targets of Nazi Germany, since male homosexuality was deemed incompatible with Nazism. The Nazis believed that gay men were weak, effeminate and unable to fight for the German nation; homosexuals were unlikely to produce children and increase the German birthrate. According to the Nazis, "inferior races" produced more children than Aryans, so anything which diminished Germany's reproductive potential was considered a racial danger.[59] Homosexuality was also thought to be contagious by the Nazis.[60] By 1936, Heinrich Himmler was leading efforts to persecute gay men under existing and new anti-homosexual laws. More than one million gay Germans were targeted, of whom at least 100,000 were arrested and 50,000 were convicted and imprisoned.[61] An unknown number were institutionalized in state-run mental hospitals. Hundreds of European gay men living under Nazi occupation were chemically castrated by court order.[61] While an estimated 5,000 to 15,000 gay men were imprisoned in concentration camps,[61] it is thought that hundreds (or perhaps thousands) were killed.[62][63] According to Austrian survivor Heinz Heger, gay men "suffered a higher mortality rate than other relatively small victim groups, such as Jehovah's Witnesses and political prisoners".[64] Gay men in Nazi concentration camps were identified by a pink triangle on their shirts, along with men convicted of sexually assaulting children and bestiality.[65] According to the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum's website, "Nazi Germany did not seek to kill all homosexuals. Nevertheless, the Nazi state, through active persecution, attempted to terrorise German homosexuals into sexual and social conformity, leaving thousands dead and shattering the lives of many more."[61]yes, the Nazis were defiinitely bad, glad we agree
>>545735156because neo-nazis are retarded
>>545735729You have no academic sources
The Gaza genocide is the ongoing,[16] intentional, and systematic destruction of the Palestinian people in the Gaza Strip carried out by Israel, with the alleged help of the United States, during the Gaza war. It encompasses mass killings, the targeted killing of children (who account for 30% of those killed),[17][18][19] deliberate starvation, infliction of serious bodily and mental harm, and prevention of births. Other acts include blockading, destroying civilian infrastructure, destroying healthcare facilities, killing healthcare workers and aid-seekers, causing mass forced displacement, committing sexual violence, and destroying educational, religious, and cultural sites.[20] The genocide has been recognized, in either a legal or scholarly sense,[21] by a United Nations special committee[22] and commission of inquiry,[20] the International Association of Genocide Scholars,[23][24] multiple human rights groups,[c] state governments, numerous genocide studies and international law scholars,[30][31] and other experts.
>>545735408In America we read holocaust books every year in school.
>>545735156Never seen a single holocaust denial claim accurately debunked
>>545735156Checkmate
>>545735156it didn't, not like you were told.>>545735370mudslimes? who cares
>>5457358361. USHMM, especially its encyclopedia website2. Yad Hashem3. Countless books on World War II4. Arsolen Archives5. The Wiener Holocaust Library, from the BritishNon-Academic:1. Testimonies2. Writings and diaries(eg Anne Frank)3. Nazi DocumentsSources from Nazis:1. Random Twitter Guy2. Random YouTuber3. Random website made by a butthurt nazi
>>545735917You clearly haven't even looked at all, since you are in a nazi circlejerk everytime.
>>545736076Okay is there a single eyewitness account of SS operating a gas chamber, emptying the chamber and creating the bodies and disposing of the ashes? Also how many SS were ever discovered having operated a gas chamber according to eyewitness testimony and charged with killing hundreds of thousands of jews
>>545735953You do realize that Nazis had about 44,000 camps and creamation wasn't the only execution method, right?
>>545735156I seriously wish Hitler had actually killed 6 gorillion kikes
>>545735953If one batch equaled 1 cookie.
>>545736207Marcel Nadjari, a Greek Jew: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-42144186Sam Itzkowitz:https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/oral-history/sam-itzkowitz-describes-the-gas-chambers-in-auschwitzSonderkommando revolt:https://www.google.com/goto?url=CAESwAEBxCJF19jJPgw8L8t6TVlYBuJADMmiB9udyfHWyRRvFFA8MQQbLJJbMvhobjTXWeyXopuK6MKep6fXWO-GXW2mBQ7nm5MeZDayoZWpllxoKg8ytleD-2_KZZQ6Pyyeh-hhEKqQo0HBzoAIy3ouZx2B76PajlbaAnSU5e2N1k-8ZhwSFAYLw-AuIqyXebRr7DKN4SrdKlzo0wPLvLXh0IIMPxe3a8m4ujtxaGQJ9VjTq0Qu24SNzRY3Ev_qKG4ojLM>>545736293He did and after the jews, you were next
>>545736398Updated source for Sonderkommando revolt:https://theconversation.com/stories-from-holocaust-prisoners-forced-to-work-in-the-gas-chambers-should-be-heard-not-silenced-65862
>>545735156Jews were mistreated in WWII camps.But no more that others in refugee and internment camps in the late 30s early 40s.There was no mass gassing or assembly line cremations.It was not a "holocaust".
they died from supply line collapsenot death camps or extermination programs>ay tone' why do these concentration camps have swimming pools and maternity wards?>that chimney wasn't there before
>>545736398They were in the middle of a three-front war with limited resources, especially fuel.No way Germany spent coal and fuel to cremate tons of bodies when those resources could have gone to the war effort. It's simple logic.
>>545736475>There was no mass gassing or assembly line cremations.Where did you get this?
>>545735156Why isnt there a single accounting of the most visible effects of cyanide poisoning in all of the first hand accounts from people who were there?
>>545736590You do realize that Nazis didn't only use cremation as an execution method?>>545736567>they died from supply line collapseSome were shot on arrival, some were gassed, some were overworked, some were incinerated>ay tone why were the ss only allowed to use pools>ay tone if it never happened, why did eisenhower got photos of dead people at Ohrduf
>>545736398This guy doesn't even know how zyklon b works, why did the jews shuffle out so many liars
>>545736738They never got in the first place. You know that Zyklon-B was extremly lethal
>>545736808The claim of mass cremation comes from the fact that mass graves couldn't be found in any of the camps. It's a shitty explanation for why million of bodies can't be found
>>545736976They were found in Treblinka and Belzec.https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-16657363https://www.holocausthistoricalsociety.org.uk/contents/belzec/belzecexcavations.html
>>545736931Yes I believe the jews not academic sources which you posted as academic sources. Just trundle off now you little liar
>>545736858Zyklon-B covers cellular respiration, affecting cells and the interior.
>>545737052As I said, there were no mass gravespeople keep repeating war propaganda made by the soviets 80 years ago
>>545737067>not academic sources which you posted as academic sourcesyou are rather confusing me than insulting me atp
>>545737222Yes I'm sure you are confused I dont think your people are very intelligent considering all the fallacies in their testimony
>>545737214If it was "soviet propaganda", then why were pictures taken?https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/search?query=mass+grave&languages%5B%5D=en
>>545737309Name at least one fallacy they said. Word it better too.
>>545737361Better, name the video, timestamp and fallacy.
>>545737361Zyklon b does not kill a room of people in 5 minutes but being dumped into a perforated can in the middle of the room
>>545737322I'm not opening any of your malware links>If it was "soviet propaganda", then why were pictures taken?The soviets were notorious for editing images and making stuff up
>>545737493https://www.thoughtco.com/zyklon-b-gas-chamber-poison-1779688Depends on the condition(concentration, temperature, etc) some died in minutes, some in hours.>>545737551>I'm not opening any of your malware linksproves you are ignorant yourself, it's the ushmm, not malware.>The soviets were notorious for editing images and making stuff upI'll take an example Mathhausen Mass-graves from the link, they were liberated by Americans, photos also taken by them
>>545737849Correct. One of the major fallacies with holocaust testimony is a complete misunderstanding of how zkyklkn b worked. I assume they just picked it because the company that made it was benefitting heavily off of conscripted labor and they needed somebody to stick a knife into. As it stands not a single piece of testimony ever accurately described zyklon b operation or how it would actually kill people. Which means nobody ever saw this actually happen and every single one that claims they did is a liar
>>545737849>muh SCARY mannequin picturethere were no mass graves
>>545738047Misunderstanding things doesn't make it a fallacy. Just because they didn't experience Zyklon-B, doesn't mean gas chambers never had Zyklon-B. Through research, people understood how it worked and how it killed people. In fact here was a Greek Jew documenting it:https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-42144186
>>545738334>MUH MANNEQUINhttps://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/photo/german-civilians-view-a-mass-grave-in-volaryDo these look like mannequins to you?
>>545738382Okay so nobody actually ever witnessed the killing. Nobody ever actually witnessed the SS. And nobody was ever actually properly charged eith the crime. And the "academics" never actually corroborated any charges brought against the nazi party concerning systemic mechanized killing factories
>>545738548The killing was witnessed by survivors LMAO. If no one saw how people died, the existance of the SS, why did they still write journals or testimonies. If nobody was properly charged, then why did the Nuremberg trials happen? Think my man.
>>545738537The US had manufacturing power to equip each truck with 4 browning machine guns. Building 20 mannequins to stage a photo take a lot less effort
>>545735156Holocaust believers are like mRNA vaxx believers, its hopeless.
>>545738709You are still dragging the mannequins and also talking about the Americans? Well, the photo was taken by Germans after the war(if you actually clicked the link). Please try combatting with sources so I can fact-check you, don't act like a midwit>>545738734mRNA vaccines literally protect your body XDDDDD
>>545735156The holocaust is incredibly offensive to the German people. To believe in the holocaust is to believe that Germans were so incompetent they could not manage to kill people they had already rounded up into camps. If the holocaust was real there would be few survivors, not hundreds of thousands even 80 years later.
>>545735156most fake shit ever, otherwise the jews would worhship whites for saving their ass, not destroy the very nation that enabled men to "save them".
>>545735156Was ohrdruff a death camp?no, it wasn't It was the very first camp the allies liberated, which was filled with starving people. It became a propaganda stage, with all the generals flying in to take photo ops. Bradly said all the bodies were crawling with lice.
can someone PLEASE post a full-length holocaust denial videoA decade ago they were all over the place, I watched a 5 hour doc where can i even find these things now?
>>545735370The population is growing in gaza.
>>545738866XD
>>545736250Cremation wasn't even an execution method you retard.
>>545738703>nobody was ever actually charged with gassing jews>if they didn't why did generalized war crime trials happenDumb jew
>>545736293same brazil bro, same, jews are foul disgusting creatures.
>>545738866governments still use mannequins to stage photos of civilian deaths (see: modern day ukraine)
>>545738916If the Holocaust was "offensive" to Germans, then why is it taught in schools?>not hundreds of thousands196,000 compared to 6 million is something. Don't forget about liberations and revolts that destroyed camps>>545738917how is it fake>>545739001It is a concentration camp that focused on forced labor.>>545739012don't bother, holocaust denial videos have very little or no citationsSome Holocaust denying and nazi glorifying YouTubers like Zoomer Historian also got debunked as well
>>545735156eisenhower was a nigger blacker than the nigger obama
>>545735156whether it happened or not, it didn't happen hard enough
>>545739264They desperately need the holocaust to have happened for some odd reason. Almost like somebody is superimposing their meaning over the war
>>545738382>manuscript is only 10% legible>they rebuild it using photoshop>author is conveniently dead seven years before discovery>he lived a long and productive life but never told anyone about his personal experience and what he witnessed, even though the manuscript is very concerned with getting his story to the Greek embassy
>>545739162Herman Goring and Ernst Kaltenbrunner got charged for literally that LMAO>>545739219Can you name a source?
>>545739025weird how jews can get hold of birthrates by ethnicity when it suits them isn't it?
>>545739377Ah so people at Nuremberg got sentenced to crimes there were no evidence of?
>>545739377>he still thinks the 'people' in the photos are realLMAO
>>545736808made up hollywood nonsenseeither way all the anti semetism throughout history was justified as we are now finding out
>>545739371The reason why the Holocaust is actually taught in Germany is for kids to understand the dark times of their country's history. It was a time where they terrorized people of all ethnicities and religions. They deserve to know the truth about what the Germans did between 1933-1945, because not knowing leads to ignorance and denial>>545739400weird how whites cry about birthrates by ethnicity then not make babies and actively hate women
>>545739499I'm asking once more, cite a source>>545739441https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/gallery/we-will-show-you-their-own-films-film-at-the-nuremberg-trial-filmsCrimes there were very much shown. It's multiple recordings at Nuremberg
>>545739644So if I point out the ignorance and denial of the jewish people that also prevents... something
>>545739612>every counter-argument I don't like is Hollywood!!!11!!!!!!11Trust me, it won't happen again, the nazis are not in power, you had a chance to show your strength and you failed. I am glad France is not speaking German. I am glad Poland is not speaking German, I am glad Russia is not speaking German.
>>545739773>ignorance and denial of the jewish peoplename one
>>545739934Well youre a completely ignorant fool, that's one
>>545739966>well i call you le ignorant so this is proof holocaust never happen
>>545740043I mean all your people are stuck up their own ass no?
>>545739751
>>545740702>jew asks brazilbro for source on how they are "mannequins" instead of people>brazilbro responds with "It came to me in a dream"I knew it. I knew that Nazis pull out random crap and call it "evidence"
>>545740977>>545740977You absolute goober, give me 50 jumping jacks, and if your arms fly off I will beat you with them
>>545740977It's called ancestral knowledge and I'm sorry you don't have it
>>545741102I exercise every morning. When you do even one jumping jack, you lose breath XD>>545741119>ancestral knowledgeLemme guess, it came in a dream
>>545741215>I exercise every morningOy vey, it's annuda shoah
>>545736076>3. Countless books on World War IIEisenhower, Churchill, and de Gaulle, all wrote histories of WWII, none of them mentioned mass gassing or assembly line cremations.Almost all of the post 1990 writings about the HOLOCAUST™ are circularly referenced to each other, not to independent historicism.>1. USHMM, especially its encyclopedia websiteYes and I am sure you can find an encyclopedic site about Lord of the Rings too.
>>545741644Sauron did nothing wrong, remember the 60 hobbits, eaten by trolls. >duh acktually trolls can't digest hobbit Gollum was a mason
>>545741644"Get it all on record now—get the films—get the witnesses—because somewhere down the road of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened."Eisenhower said this about the Holocaust.https://www2.gvsu.edu/walll/churchill%20and%20the%20holocaust.htmChurchill condemned the Holocausthttps://jewishvirtuallibrary.org/de-gaulle-message-denouncing-anti-semitic-laws-of-the-french-vichy-regimeDe Gaulle also denounced anti-semitic laws in Vichy France.You are telling me they ignored it?
>>545737849>some in hours.BREATH DEEPER you Shlomos, we've got 5,999,965 more to go!
>>545741644The encyclopedia website contains texts, archives, videos, quotes and maps related to the Holocaust in Germany and allies. Comparing it to Lord of the Rings is minimizing
>>545741982You do realize that gassing was not the only execution method, right?>muh fictional character agrees with me!
>>545741893Conflating deportations with mass murder? If the holocaust was deportations and conscription would you still kvetch?
>>545735156>unspecific reference to arguments and evidences for claimNot an argument tranny
>>545742065>If the holocaust was deportations and conscription would you still kvetchPartially correct, misleading. Jews were usually deported forcefully to other camps camps such as Chełmno, Treblinka, Sobibor, Belzec, and Auschwitz-Birkenau, due to mostly revolts, space or decision from officershttps://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/deportations>>545742212>implies I'm transkek
>>545742212Hold on if I misinterpret 50 tangentially related pieces of evidence I can draw the conclusion I like. Is this jewish pilpul?
>>545735156I know it was fake for one reason - it's illegal to question. That's enough for me. I don't need to waste time researching the specifics and get lost down an infinity rabbit hole of debunkers and debunking debunkers etc. if it happened it wouldn't be ILLEGAL to question. i am efficient.
>>545742355A website is evidence now? Read the entire library of congress to find out why your argument style is invalid.
>>545741893Then where did he repeat this in his memoir?He was referring in that quote , publicized in LIFE magazine no less, to the starvation and disease he saw.And why didn't LIFE magazine itself, a major media outlet in the 1940s, have any article about WWII gas chambers and crematoriums?
>>545742492A website that includes archives and photos is evidence>Read the entire library of congressThere are more than 25 million books there. If me or you read all of them, we wouldn't even finish 10,000 before we are dead men.
>>545742355Yes then being deported and working in factories is misleading. Does the auschwitz tour mention auschwitz III?
>>545735156> Why are Holocaust denial claims so easy to debunk?Because you can easily redefine what "Holocaust" is supposed to be just as you see fit.It's not formulated as a scientific theory but as a conspiracy theory and a moral dogma.
>>545735751How were they bad? Homosexuals were working with the jewish treasonous terrorists that were exiled but refused to leave.
>>545742664Irrelevant. You think links are evidence, now you must know that all of library of congress doesn't refute you to justify the foundations of your argument style. Or are you operating by a double standard?Don't worry about time, we are here forever.
>>545742058>fictional characterDon't go there"Some events do take place but are not true; others are, although they never occurred."-Elie Wiesel, "holocaust" survivor
>>545742711When they say it was owned by ig farben do they say that's who owned the company that made zyklon b? What a weird coincadink
>>545736370Lol Do cremation machines turn bodies to ash by the dozen? You silly goose
>>545736636Where did you see proof that there was?
>>545742939Surely it's a sign! I feel like a lightning bolt is hitting my plembis
>>545742572>have any article about WWII gas chambers and crematoriums?https://www.life.com/history/world-war-ii-color-photos-from-nazi-occupied-poland-1939-1940/>There, thousands of Kutno’s Jewish men, women and children were put to death in “gas vans” mobile gas chambers in what were among the first mass murders of the Holocaust.
>>545736808>Rhey werent just turned to ash and bone, ykno!!Then show us the bodies, retard.
>>545739895Maybe you would be believed if your people were known for their honesty. But Hollywood is knowing for their liars especially. Soooo
>>545743047Yes the delousing vans they said were gas chambers? Watch out here comes the groomer! He'll steal your trinkets and hands out poison candy
Dude, shit is so bad preventing a Holocaust world wide is now priority! Specifically of the Jewish People.
>>545743232They should be put into camps for their own safety, we need a catch phrase.
>>545742711>Does the auschwitz tour mention auschwitz IIIIt does XD>Yes then being deported and working in factories is misleadingEmphasis on *partially correct*>>545742833okay, name one book in the library of congress that "debunks" my claims>>545742864What does the nazi mean by this?>>545743077https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/search?query=bodies&languages%5B%5D=en>>545743163Gas chambers were also mobile, you know?
>>545743355Good I'm glad they mention auschwitz III. Yes I have heard of the mobile gas chambers. And the gas chambers using engine exhaust. And the aktion t4 murders, and the mad scientist experiments. Am I supposed to believe that?
>>545743047LIFE magazine DIDN"T publish that in 1945, or 1946.And making reference to COLORIZED photos from WWII does help to establish 100% proof.>Hugo JaegerWhere did Jaeger get rolls of color film during wartime. What were the chemicals used to develope prints, where was the lab?Much like ballpoint pens, color film and resuling color photos were only done as prototypes.LIFE magazine has been defunct since the early 1970, and was absorbed by Time-(((Warner))) corp. They do whatever they want to their assets now, whatever they want to dream up.BTW, I accept you concession as you sink into your own trivia.
>>545743355I don't have to. I already told you my evidence. Are you too bad faith to argue with someone using your own criteria against you?>TRANNNNNNNY
>>545743987Ask him why polish intelligence had a fully functional camera in auschwitz and never took a single picture of the murder factories
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>>545735370Nope not a genoice lmfaoGet your facts straight trannyA genocide did happen on October 7th tho
lest we forgetThe Holocaust was the systematic, state-sponsored genocide of six million European Jews—along with millions of other victims—by Nazi Germany, its allies, and collaborators between 1933 and 1945.
>>545735370there is no evidence or documentation proving a genocide is happening in gaza
>>545744566The entire population of eastern European jewry, localized entirely within a few camps in poland, may I see it?
>>545744702"Genocide" is not a fact that you could verify, it's a moral judgment.Because it's not defined as "killing a whole people, every single individual of it".It's open to interpretation and arbitrary.
The Holocaust is one of humanity's biggest open collaborative work of fiction.
