>free healthcare bad
>>545752453There is no free healthcare. You pay for it with taxes. Also, often it means long lines and giving bribes to doctors. But I guess that's better than nothing...We should be funding medical tech so we actual have robust cures for cancer and other stuff.
>>545752453>4 cancersYou got to know when to hold themKnow when to fold'emKnow when to walk awayKnow when to run.Don't spend 100k of my taxes on some dying cunt just for him to live 6 more months
Cancer at stage 4 really doesn't need tumor-shrinking treatment thougheverbeit. Just get a priest.The insurance company did nothing wrong.
>>545752453Anyone who calls it "free healthcare" is a worthless retard
>>545752453>boomer doesn't live forever
>>545752453he probably chose an expensive treatment that statistically would not have made a difference and wanted the insurance company to pay for it. He could just take chemo and shrink the tumor that way.These patients expect insurance companies to pay for every treatment under the sun whether it will make a difference or not because they aren't paying for it!
your free to pay the heathcare costs of shitskins with your money. you're not free to pay their healthcare costs with my money
>>545752453rip gary sinise
remember when clott addams begged donald trump to force scientists to do experimental treatments on him lmao?
>>545752453stop waiting for the whore system to fix
>>545752453https://youtu.be/zroIcuZK7AY
a bit cynical but if he had stage 4 cancer he would have died anywayrip mister
>>545752453>nooo give this terminally ill, guaranteed to die in a few months, man poison drugs that will make him go bald and puke all the time! And do it for free! youre a nazi!/pol/ is the lowest IQ board
>>545752916Stage 4 cancer.If it shrinks the tumors and gives him years it's worth it.Single payer is still cheaper anyway.
>>545752768You’re an absolute moron if you think that pharmaceutical companies are going to let any type of cure be created. You obviously don’t understand how capitalism actually works in its most corrupt for him. If you cure cancer you lose trillions of dollars in the industry they wouldn’t allow that
What leftists don't tell you about "free healthcare" (read: you subsidizing the healthcare of the poor and minorities who vote for the left against you) are all the side effects it has on freedom.Once, a ridiculous law was passed in some places from Brazil, prohibiting restaurants from placing salt shakers on tables. The idea is that salt causes high blood pressure and health problems (which isn't even true to begin with), so restaurants that offer salt shakers to customers are indirectly overburdening the healthcare system, which doesn't work in the first place because, even though it sucks everything it can out of the people (taxes), there's never enough money to take care of everyone.
>>545752453Mister Metokur approves
>>545752453>AI healthcare badlibsisters what is our response?
>>545753104fuck off you dirty kike
>>545754780>you have to give me free treatment or you're a kikehow about you become a doctor and give free treatments yourself
Cancer is only cruel because your days are inescapably numbered but the doctors lie to you and say they can help you, as long as they can bill you and your insurance for millions of dollars. 200 years ago they would have said "died of natural causes" after you wasted away in a bed. But now you died after "LOSING THE BATTLE" with stage 4 whatever the fuck cancer as doctors cut away at your body and poisoned you with chemotherapy drugs, and your family saw you turn into a bald skeleton who pukes all the time. Good thing those doctors gave you all that extra time with your family... I mean, extended the suffering and the wasting away in a bed.
>>545754849how about you out yourself into an oven moshe, you stupid fat kike.
>>545755036Get up off your ass and go help the people you are crying about.
>>545752453Theres free healthcare in new york city though
>>545752916>>545754661I'm with the insurance frog on this one all the way. What are you going to be doing for a year in and out of the hospital at an advanced age? You'll be braindead from the chemo as well.
>>545752453you gotta pray.to the right saints, I mean.
>>545755087Americans voted for free healthcare, of course maga won't let it happen but Texas is blue for free healthcare and immigration.Ted Cruz is the only national socialist left in Texas.
>>545752453At some point people should accept they're dying and die with some dignity. Not prolonging your suffering while costing insurance millions. That's being selfish.
>>545755234There's no such thing as free healthcare unless you have enslaved the doctors. What we're going to get with democlap healthcare is just another corrupt big pharma slush fund party like we got with obamacare
Accelerate, f that self guilt wannabe grandma, butch I ain't your husband, missiles to the face. Holy shit, talk about a lame psychopath.I left the bitch the Mike and the story, the hoe is still in my shit because I do technology and she can't get niggas to watch her boring husbands money laundering network religious cult network for dying old people and their retirement savings.Me no look cool, error in this address out of billions of pixels, reactor overheat bee bee book boop, but does my butt look big i need to adjust my hairstyle because the 13 year old slut is fucking a whole bunch of 25 year old pedophiles and her move is making it on tik tok... what is milf porn? Why is it so popular... missile to the face!
>>545752453This happens in countries with socialized medicine all the time as well honestly. Those fucking waitlists. Holy shit.>Oh you have a glioblastoma wrapping around your brain stem? No worries we got you citizen. Your appointment will be November 12th, 2027. You'll be fine til then I'm sure.
Cancer patients are desperate people looking for any cure. Just make them comfortable instead of offering false hope.
>>545754905Cancer is often beaten, especially with modern tech, though it wildly depends on what strain we're talking. Skin cancer, Uterine cancer,. breast cancer, stomach cancer, testicular, prostate, anything that can simply be cut off and have you functioning as you were is just a tree losing a branch. It happens. Lung and liver we're getting more into the "you can win it, but it'll beat the shit out of you and take years off your life anyway", and finally there's pancreatic cancer where you're better off spending that money on a trip to Nihon. Brain cancer is probably the ultimate yolo strain, because you just never know what it's going to do. It's there, it's gone, it's harmless, you're dead. No particular order or guarantee for any of it.
>>545752453Any country with tax-payer funded health care doesn't even have those experimental treatments available, so basically they would just say YGNALI.
>>545754309>guys, people totally said this worked.are you actually this retarded?
>>545755239You feel that way now, when you have nothing to live for. It'll change, hopefully.
>>545755828Even if I did have something like children to live for, I wouldn't want them to see me deteriorate to the point I'm an invalid. Becoming that sort of a burden on your loved ones hurts.
>>545755457yes, I wish to die a diamorphine addict
look at what they do in canada. their healthcare is free but you're on a waitlist until you die so they come to america to pay for healthcare. and usually they recommend assisted suicide first before they put you on the 10 year waitlist
>>545756039> I was promised heroic medical intervention before I gracelessly expire.
>>545752453it is bad, and expensive.>>545754661>Single payer is still cheaper anyway.imagine if you will, State Farm + IRS
>>545756251All through University I worked nights as a nursing aid, I saw many many deaths .. none of them the graceful exit people wish for, it is ugly, terrifying and often smelly.People are not prepared for death because they have been fed a steady diet on TV and film of the heroic nurse and doctor saving the day, reality is completely different country.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8nYgsR8Yu4
>>545752453Life saving treatments should only be given to those under 50 years of age. Wtf purpose does this pensioner serve other than to be a leech? It would only be better if we could kill him off sooner as to not spread his inferior tumor having genes.
>>545752453>not medically necessarythey're right though. insurance companies only invest in medically necessary procedures that will result in you paying more premiums for longer. if you're just going to drain their revenues then they should just let you die. this is a business after all not some charity
>>545755990Yeah, but it doesn't always go that way. Cancer gets a lot of dire depictions in media because so many fucking people get it, but it's because so many fucking people get it that we've worked hard to make it simple to get rid of. They have chemo in a fucking pill now.
>>545757154Until people stop buying the shit because they're not getting their money's worth."WE DON'T WORK FOR FREE!" shrieks the stupid cunt in a buttonup and loafers, as well as the neets that rabidly defend them for whatever reason.
>>545752453Ive experienced every tax bracket. I never had better health insurance than when I was in the lowest bracket and paid literally nothing for it. The ENTIRETY was subsidized. The idea that the US has no free healthcare is a fucking lie
>>545752453>Outliers are totally representative of the normOkay so if a handful of immigrants are rapists, then you are a rapist as well because you are an immigrant.
>>545752453And it is shit. At least this guy stood a chance if he were rich. With "free" healthcare he would die because he was in the long list of not doing anything.
Only White people (real humans) deserve free healthcare
>>545752768>You pay for it with taxes.Cool, we can pay with taxes or the blood of "healthcare" insurance executives. Fair deal, faggot?
>>545756176>. their healthcare is free but you're on a waitlist until you dieThis is a lie btw.
>>545755389Kike.
>>545752453Why don’t people realise insurance is a scam?
>>545752453white people are mind raped and the dead faggotnwas probta republican anyway who thought working together for your country is communism
>>545752453Taxpayers would have paid $200k to keep him alive for an extra 2 months
>>545752916>Don't spend 100k of my taxes on some dying cunt. My taxes belong to billionaires, niggers and Israel! END OF STORY!
>>545752768Taxes don’t pay for things. People who don’t know how monetary policy works should shut up about governance in general they have proven their opinions are dumb as rocks
>>545752453>free
>>545759396So it's basically free for spics and niggers
>>545760106imagine how much they'd save if they kill you nowthat's the entire point of corporate America's agenda. kill all useless eaters
>>545752453Send him to Canada, we'll MAID kill him for free.
>>545752453>free healthcareNo such thing Guido
>>545760108Dad had a friend who got lung cancer from smoking. He got keytruda or something for $10k a month (obviously more costs on top such as hospital stays). He just kept smoking and lived 6 months or so
>>545752453Illegals get free healthcare. You get to pay for it. The democrats know that it's impossible to extend free healthcare to the citizen that they're already giving illegals and they campaign on it, anyways, because they know you're retarded.
desu these treatments all cost years upon years of wages and even in "free" healthcare systems it takes 10 high taxpaying slaves to pay for 1 guys bad luck and to give him another month or so in a hospital bedboomers not giving anything to the next generation is also this: they'd rather blow all of their capital on spending another day on a cruise than to just croak in peace and leave something for the next gensage because you are in a 1pbtid shill thread
>>545752453"free"lol, lmaojust give up >50% of your hard earned wage so somalis can get actual free healthcare!
>>545760106>bad faith argument with bad numbers >dosent know that healthcare is cheaper when socialized then when private insurance runs healthcar.>hates talking about all the quality healthcare around the world that is social.
>>545760180I'm 37 in full time employment, I wouldn't mind getting killed at 70 if I was badly sick especially if it means we start doing it now and I get more value from my taxes
>>545760259Said who? Compared to what now? I’ll wait
>>545760236clearly not the point dumbass. the point is ACCESS for allthankfully I figured out that I can just go to the ER, they can't turn me away for any reason, and then I throw the bill in the trashand you have to pay for it through increased pricesthanks bitch
>>545760283People come from all of those countries to the USA when they need real healthcare
>>545752453fuckin MEN fuckin PATRIARCHY
>>545760266>gives up 56% of hard earned wages atm for condition to be denied by his health insurance.
>>545752923Nah. Plenty of people pull through and survive stage 4. If there's any chance at surviving then treatment is necesary.
>>545760283I live under socialized healthcare and it fucking sucks too, the amount of useless fat old people gracelessly kept alive on the taxpayer is unbelievable. E.g. women spend 20 years in a dementia ward on the taxpayer. Probably like $2k per day for years and years on end. There was never any saving them and that's a lot of people's entire tax bill just going to them
>>545760328>and you have to pay for it through increased pricesat least then it's the idiots using the hospital who are paying for it. That's still better than charging taxpayers who have nothing to do with it
>>545760108>spend 100k of my taxes on morbidly obese niggers!socialism isnt the solution, europoors know, we have "free healthcare" and all it costs us is >50% of our hard earned wages so our traitor govts can give it all away to brown invadersthe solution is killing the (insurance) kikes, healthcare should and can be affordable without creating a system where brown subhumans who dont contribute can abuse ityou have to be insanely low iq to not understand this, or just be brown i guess, take your pick
>>545760349People come to the Netherlands, France , Germany, Japan, South Korea, the UK for medical. Are you fucking dumb dude.
>>545760150>basicallyremove that word and yes
>>545752453that's when he should have gotten out of his bed and go visit CEO of that insurance company to remind him about Luigi. he's gonna die regardless anyways and as I remember they dont put terminal people in prison
>>545760465no they don't
>>545760424lmao white logic
>>545760376where are you paying 56% income tax nigger? didnt know the us joined the eu
>>545760417You live in a mining operation in a trench coat. Also your far right party gutted the good parts of your social benifits in the 80s and 90s . Shut the fuck up.
>>545752916My friend does this, the rejections. She hates it but sometimes you're just too far gone. $100,000 would be gone in the first three days. Load him up with H and send in his friends. We all have to die of something.
>>545759396same, buddy. I was a homeless heroin addict at one point. Medicaid got me free methadone and all of my teeth fixed. These days I pay over $1600 a month for my family because I pay the entire premium for a nice full coverage plan. People don't realize at all the true cost of their premiums. but yeah, being homeless was such an easy way to get every medical need covered, god damn.
>>545760129>Taxes don’t pay for thingsGet a load of this retard lmao
>>545760531>woosh Not understanding how insurance works
>>545754661>Single payer is still cheaper anyway.Not for people that pay taxes. So yeah, for (You), it's cheaper.
>>545760517my logic would say if you don't pay you get sent to the charity doctor who will cure you on his own dime. But second best is to charge the hospital users, since they are the ones who need the service to exist
>>545760312In order for everyone to get free healthcare somebody's got to pay all the workers and that aren't cheap and the infrastructure which is also extremely expensive. The state can accomodate a fraction of the population getting it and use your funneled tax dollars to make it happen. So, in order to extend it to everyone tax burdems would dwarf even California, the most taxed state in the nation and some cuts would need to be made on quality and availability of service. This would also inevitably lead to more scams involving healthcare increasing everybody's burden.
>>545760552>get a load of this retard. Google MMT
>>545755239Except you, of course. And the Israelis with universal healthcare.>>545759956Well said, Miyagi san
>>545760476that's fucking bad anon, I always thought they were left to die or something.We have it bad where browns clog the system but we do actually get treatment eventually even if it's years later
>>545760465people from across the globe go to the us to get specialised treatment, the fuck are you even talking about you dunning kruger mutt
All disease is spiritual
>>545752453It is, pinko.If you want insurance, get a job.
>>545760542Make it the good stuff and I'm all in. I don't know why the hell we don't do this with prisoners.
I GOT KICKED OUT OF THE STORE FOR YELLING AT YOU I HAD 5 MORE STORES TO GO! YOU ARE NOT FUNNY!
>>545760537That's Australia however there are plenty of humiliating things you could easily say about this shit hole country so I'll just think about them and save you the post
>>545760633Weird how a huge amount of the first world has done just this super fine with no problems and it works better then the states.
bros what actually works against cancer and isn't jew science besides don't drink or do drugs or eat paint and roundup or something
>>545752453stage 4 is terminal, they were correctit is not medically necessary, you're dying to the cancer either waythey deemed it wasn't going to improve the QoL for the time he had left and would have just wasted money for no reasonat that point the only thing you do is offering better QoL until they dieyou can't treat it, and you can't extend your time left by much at all doing anythingwhy do you not know this?and a better question is why the new york post didn't know this either?fake outrage
>>545760682I wish that was true but animals get diseases too, spiritually pure animals like dogs
>>545752453Tumor shrinking treatment isn't going to save your ass from stage 4 cancer lmao.If you get cancer and it looks likely to kill you, party as fucking hard as you can for a few days and die gracefully from a morphine overdose.
>>545760761many documented cases of stage 4 cancers going in full remission
>>545752453It's not free but it's there. Always without fighting or extra costs.
>>545752453Many such cases Millions actually
>>545760761Shalom
>>545760000wrong VPN jeet
>>545760792Do meth and it can cure you, it's basically like extreme fasting
>>545752453Why not just do the procedure without the insurance and never pay the debt back?
>>545759152a real man would strap on some explosives and hug an enemy......one last time.
>>545760820>>545760876die for responding to me with bullshit
>>545760761jew
>>545752453>Stage 4 brain cancerDude was fucked anyway. The insurance company not wanting to spend money on a $10 million treatment that might keep him alive for another week seems reasonable to me.Are we pretending that government run healthcare doesn't do this sort of shit all the time? "Free healthcare" doesn't mean its free, it just means you're forced to pay for it with your taxes.
>>545753162You have that money because of those "shitskins" you complain so much about. It was never your money to begin with. Everything you have is thanks to society at large. Even your ability to post stupid shit like this was afforded to you by brown people.
>>545752768The US already pays more per capita than any developed country, and they still have to pay for healthcare out of pocket.
>>545760990sorry, here is photo of me as penance for you to cherish. don't worry, it's bong porn-law safe.
>>545761159brain doesnt get cancer, only tumors. all tumors are treatable
>>545752453Luigi did nothing wrong, if anything he should have killed more healthcare CEOs
>>545760735>fine with no problems>except for declining quality and availability of service.Just go out in public and look at all the people. Better to do this in an urbanized environment and think that every sack of meat you see is going to have a whole team of college educated people running around trying to make him all better. You can understand why that's untenable to both have the same quality and availability we have while making the taxpayer pay for it? Plenty of these people contribute nothing back to the system.
>>545761202>brain doesnt get cancer, only tumorswhen are they removing yours?
>>545761333Settle down bongistanShitskin rapists rule you
>>545760784demons affect animals too bossman. be vigilantjust because a tree has no free will doesnt mean it cant be hauntedthink on that my brucey friendGod be with You
>>545760894Lol, they are not sending their best.
that being said we all die anyways so. it's a mystery
>>545760948It's drugs and he was dying so they probably wanted the money up front
>>545752453>Stage 4 cancer.>aka. metastatic cancer>aka. the cancer has spread throughout the body Hurr durr why greedy insurance company think shrinking tumor not medically necessary on dead man?
>>545761174wtf ?
>>545752453This article is intentionally deceiving you. The guy was terminal and the drug he wanted was extremely expensive and unlikely to save him. It was a hail mary play on his part. Insurance companies are bad enough, no need make up lies about them.
If I already had children and got a complicated medical problem, I would prefer dying so it's cheaper for the kids.
>>545760297just do it now
>>545752453Retards will automatically assume that the medication would have magically cured him because of the way the headline was written.
>>545760616I'm not sure how shit works in your equally retarded state but in Texas, specifically the DFW area and many others, local hospitals get a piece of your property taxes. which btw you would consider communism even though it's a red stateso there's a public hospital called John Peter Smith in Fort Worth that is completely free. they ask you if you'd like to pay but you can just say no
>>545752453Honestly they missed out, they could have taken his entire generational wealth with the right paperwork barely keeping him alive. Whoever denied that is probably fired.
>>545752453All Whites and right-wingers do is complain and whine like cowards. You people are so fucking spineless.
>>545761333I know critical thinking is not your best character traithttps://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/brain-tumor
>>545762077Explain tha graph to me like I’m not a nigger.
>>545762143We should gas every left wing nigger/boy lover
>>545761694say what? here is a photo of my sister and I
>>545762254>> critical thinking isn't you're strong suit>> huffs white women's shit airenjoy your monkey pox bud
>>545762310>enjoy your monkey pox budsorry nigger but I am not gay like you, monkey pox is a faggot disease
>>545762300Your sister is a niggerFail
>>545762271We the American people pay 2.5 times more than other modern countries do, and we die faster by .05% than if we never stepped in hospital doors.
>>545762372Reported to the home office.
>>545762372white women fuck gay dudes lol. that's how it was spread to straight dudes
>>545762394Thanks.
>>545762374are you blind, nigger? both of our skin is white. clean your monitor because clearly it's covered with rottin spunk you swung at it earlier today
>>545762464Nigger nigger is a nigger
>>545762436>white women fuck gay dudes lol. that's how it was spread to straight dudeshow do you know, is that something that happened to you? I'm not judgin
>>545754682No cures, but treatments for everything under the sun.They'll invent a new debilitating medical condition out of itchy balls if it suits them.
>goverment has money for Israel>goverment has money for Ukraine>goverment has money for goverment officials>goverment has money for ballrooms and trumps billion dollar vanity projects>goverment has money for ice>NOOOO YOU CANT USE OUR TAXES FOR HELPING THE HEALTH OF YOUR CITIZENS!Lol go fuck yourself miggers and chuds.
>>545752453SUE THE SHIT OUT OF THAT INSURANCE COMPANY !
>>545762728>boomers vote as a bloc to perpetually increase social security >demand youth be taxed higher to increase their own income>same bloc only one that cries about socialism every day
>>545752453Stage 4 is terminal anyway, in Canada 5% of all deaths are from medical assisted suicide because they just kill people like this instead of trying to treat it.
Threadly reminder:"Free Healthcare" means unlimited funding for the medical industry.
>>545752453Eliminate the middle man industry and finish what Hadrian started in 300AD and you literally wont have any problems
>>545762872>perpetually increase social securityThis has never happened, unless you are pretending cola failing to keep up with inflation is an increase, but that did not require any votes.
>>545762728The government spends more on healthcare than the entire EU, far more than any of the wars happening. The problem is the system gets scammed at all levels, from illegals using the ER for minor check ups so they don't have to pay, thus increasing costs for everything, to people scamming the system all the way up to the hospitals way over charging for anything they do so they over charge insurance companies, that's a big reason if you don't have insurance you can always negotiate a much lower price to be a fraction of what they wanted to initially charge.
>>545752768>italy>free healthcare>grandma fell>made multiple visits to specialists; paid money to private clinic cuz queue is too long>X-ray results. four broken vertebrae down. >grandma needed a metal back brace>healthcare could give you one>waiting 4 months and more paperwork or buy yourself one>If Grandma moves even a tit wrongly during 3 months of waiting, she could remain paralyzed>then the bones will be fused back, and the back brace won't be needed >bough metal back brace for 200 eurosyou effectively pay it 2 times
He would have died waiting with muh free healthcare
>>545763101Its insurance company's are 30% of the reason why Healthcare costs so much lol
>>545763236Post nudes of grandma
>>545760735>no problempick your poison
>>545762872We do really just have boomer socialism, they get all the government services and money for free, while the working people get fucked over. The 80 year olds are getting $500k in medical check ups and procedures for free to keep them alive for another 3 months, while the 40 year old Joe who insured his elbow while working has to sell his house to pay for it. The biggest problem in the US is we spend way too much on people who don't work, from boomers to able bodied people who don't want to work and get free housing, food and medical care but if they chose to start working they effectively would lose all those benefits because they no longer need them, so they end up making less while having the stress of working.
>>545763316Break whaddddup you schizo poet fuck
