Now that the world is experiencing global warming and there is the threat of losing heating oil for winter due to war, I think its very important that the public becomes aware that there is very cheap technology that can be made to cool and heat homes for free and is already in use around the world by people who are aware of ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPf7eZfpVxwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TevPgXbKzk
>>545755034nobody has a flat half acre to dig up, and I also doubt it works in real hot or cold times, without a fuckton of insulation
>>545755339vortex tube goigle it nigger
>>545755034better stop sharing this or the government will ban these
>>545755339It is actually employed by some commercial greenhouses too, you use the land as a thermal battery, the trick is managing the heat. If your field is too big you can't move the air and if it is too small you can't extract heat in the winter/cool in the summer as there is no longer enough of a temp differential. Its complicated and more engineering than most can do
>>545755548"It has no moving parts, but has poor energy efficiency.[2]Pressurised gas is injected tangentially into a swirl chamber near one end of a tube"sounds great. great big
I like the idea of compressing gas and using the cold air from that, and running electricity through tiny wires for heat. Or a swamp cooler and fireplace
>>545755034>$60 plastic tube>AmishAnon, KYS.
>>545755034>$60lollmao
Before air conditioning homes were built with high ceilings, large windows, open design and vents in the roof. This is what kept them cool. Fire provided heat as it has for thousands of years.
>>545755339If you don't have a half acre you can go straight down. It does work well for like a green house or poly-tunnel. You can grow citrus fruit in minnesota all year round with just a simple fan pump and not adding anything else. The problem is when you want to get the heating up above that baseline for home heating. That requires a heating pump which uses lot of electricity. The first house I built we put geothermal underfloor heating in (digging up a half acre). We got a grant so it make it somewhat feasible. Afterward the heat pump was constantly breaking down but it was covered under warranty. It was clean, no mess, no gas, but the electricity bills could be bad. My x wife lives in that house now, and it's still breaking down. In my new house I put in 1980's solid fuel back boiler system, I assume the amish use a combination of solid fuel stoves, perhaps with a open loop back boiler in conjunction with the geothermal system which would make sense.
>>545755711that makes sense. could just sit below the GH footprint. But really, it would just be easier to build underground.
>>545755034>slop thumbnailif it were real, he'd have the real thing
>>545755034You don’t need heat you just need more layerst. Was homeless through a winter in the PNW
>>545756074It's only like 800' of pipe. 2" PVC at $4/foot only costs $3200.
>>545755034>$60Yeah plus $20,000 to excavated the massive ammount of depth below ground these things have to be.>>545755339I have the space but its gotta be FLAT too?
>>545756197>If you don't have a half acre you can go straight downI wonder if I could pump out my well and seal the bottom. about 3'x30'
>>545755548>goigleI know you made a typo but that's how it sounds in your accent it>oh m8 goigle it
>>545756506Don't think it'd work. I've got a drilled well at 200', my tap water is ice cold year round.
>>545755967the point is lost on you if you dont understand that the balanced condition of all matter contain each polarised extreme
>>545756666Quads of just drill to hell, that'd be warm.
Geothermal?Nothing new.
>>545756364>I have the space but its gotta be FLAT too?I guess I don't know. I can't see it working well outside the north pole, or arizona. and only in a home with r-infinity insulation. eventually, that intake air will make the tube the same temp. just a bad idea in the age of evil electricity
>>545755034You need a powered pump to keep the coils circulating, so most Amish won’t use this. But yeah, you could get bc a house to a relatively comfortable temperature and use a central wood-burning stove to heat it the rest of the way to 68 F on a very cold day.
>>545756734Shut up, nigger
>>545756364This.My cousin did it on his 40 acre farm so space wasn't a problem.The land doesn't need to be flat but the excavation is a helluva cheaper if it is.Your $20k estimate is accurate assuming you are working with a flat expanse of relatively trouble-free soil, e.g. no giant boulders or impacted clay deposits.Also it's not free to run. You still have an eletric pump to run though considerably less energy use than a window heat pump for example.You can setup a passive system but it needs to be air and will eventually fill up with roots which means you'll have to dig the bastard back up again.
>>545755034or could just burn oil which is free/cheap af
while were at it, here is how to make a candle that will stay lit for over a month using Crisco shorteninghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDcxlTl4rL0great if the power goes out and you need the lights on all the time
>>545757044>>545756928solved. and all the shit and piss are good for cooking and cleaning
>>545755034why is everything posted here badly cropped? Is it boomers, is it zoomers or is it turdies?
>>545757599>great if the power goes out and you need the lights on all the timeI've never even seen Crisco. Does it work with cruelty free olive oil, or vegan butter?
>>545756506You most likely could. There's a formula for how much length of pipe you need relative to the square footage of your house. It's a lot more than you'd think. In the system we used the pipes were filled with water. As others said you need top level insulation. I believe they have this tech developed to a high level in germany now, which is where we ordered our system from. At the time it wasn't quite there but it was good enough to beat out kerosene or liquid gas as most homes use around here in terms of annual heating costs.
>>545757792sry, I didnt think the thumbnail was that important considering how shit thumbnails are on /pol/
>>545757689I love the magical thinking of "well it doesn't use gasoline that means it's free!"Horses are expensive as fuck. They eat a lot and you can't leave them parked in the garage over the winter on the same tank of gas. They are forever idling.I don't even want to think how much a hand carved horse treadmill costs but holy shit is that cool.
most of the people live in cities and will be in team insulation + heat pump (for both cooling and heating) or some combustion (just heating)with really good insulation you need only a few kW of heat/cooling at most anyhow which you can get at like 2-4x and 4-6x amplification even from cheap air-air heat pumps in most of the world
>>545757854I'm in a pretty temperate climate, and my insane state has insane energy requirements already. Fuck 24" deep r-15 all around my slab. R-10 under slab in case I want floor heating. Fucking R-38 or so for ceilings... Can heat with a candle and cool with an ice cube almost. More spent on the pink panther than the fucking house
>>545755034Years ago I believed some retarded internet meme that you can replace your air conditioner with a fan and block of ice in a cooler with a hole cut through it. It didn't work worth a shit. This won't either. You'll spend months digging a tunnel then realize it provides 5 minutes of kinda cool air then doesn't do shit past lowering them temp in your house maybe 2°. I don't think the Amish live in big houses either.
>>545757919>I don't even want to think how much a hand carved horse treadmill costsTwo pretty daughters, or two ugs and one pretty. depends on the beet market a lot
>>545758197Thats good. As others have said here the initial install costs are high, the heat pump unit alone are thousands. Unless you can get a grant like we get here, or are an engineer and can figure out a lot of the install for yourself - but it is a complex system. If you want off grid heat and you don't mind a bit of screwing around with wood, consider a stove and back boiler set up. I'm toasty as fuck all winter, hot water even during black outs. Wouldn't have anything else, I've also started pollarding willow. It's a hard system to beat for cost, maintance and not relying on the grid - as long as you can burn and source wood where you are.
>>545757919They use horses not because of cost but because the rules are against certain kinds of machinery. But economics are different in Amish society as it is labor and land abundant and capital scarce. And different scale economies too because everyone has horses so more services that cater to them.That contraption in your photo looks handmade, but most of their woodworking is done in sawmills with electricity. Most houses don’t have electric power to keep out the Happy Merchant, but some groups allow conveniences powered by gas or diesel.This is a cool general store in Ohio that sells tools and household appliances to Plain communities and other people who care sick of industrial society and its consequences.https://www.lehmans.com/
>>545758735>stove and back boiler set upI may. I live in forestry country, so tons of free wood. With some solar, could go off grid almost. But dig this; in Oregon, you HAVE to plug into sewer and water if available. Even if you have a well and septic tank. Nope. Forced into a $100 bill minimum. Land of the free....
>>545758277it's not a thing we before-amish did often at all traditionally.it was more about the house design really. outside walls. layered rooms for further air pockets and/or thermal buffer in the walls with the option to vent upwards in case of heat but also nearly fully trap heat when heating. chalets etc. have various tricks too and of course you can do them better with modern insulation and so on.
>>545758277Many Amish houses are huge because they have lots of childrens and sometimes Oma and OP’s live in the same house too.
>>545759255in order for warm air to come into the house, you need to vent air from the house. warm air cant move against air pressure, the air must be vented to create a suction. also houses that are completely sealed to keep in warm air create very dangerous moldhttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/b1CpKW3VB4Y
>>545759255>>545759276and at night, heating isn't needed much, because of all the incest, and hand made quilts
>>545755034Do that in tropical climates like florida and you're guaranteed mold in a week. So stupid.
>>545755034>AI slop thumbnails
