Why would anybody be against these things? They are so common sense and straightforward that they are good for people on both the left and the right.
>>545768973Seems reasonable to me.
>>545768973it's not that I'm against them it's that I don't want:>the government controlling my healthcareobamacare already proved that it's not possible, plus how do you think we will pay for it you dumb nigger>the government making housing "affordableI don't want niggers living around me, because you know that's what will happen>living wages and workers rightsnigger I have both of those and got them by working my way up the chain of command at my employer. stop being a bitch.
1. agreed2. how do you make housing affordable? 3. Living wages are tied to housing costs, so see number 2. Making jobs pay more just raises living costs for everyone
>>545768973>Why would anybody be against these things?Healthcare is a service. You don't have the right to the service of others.
>>545768973Typically written specifically for the benefit of nonwhites or targeting whites.
>>545769134obamacare isn't universal healthcare
>>545769175so why is free police or fire services fine?
explain what you think universal healthcare is and who gets it, faggot
>>545768973I’ve seen through propaganda
>>545769136>how do you make housing more affordable?Build more houses and kill the NIMBYs blocking new construction. Houses are not assets. Houses are shelter.
>>545769075>Seems reasonable to me.But then you would go and oppose this "right" to the unvaxxed.
>>545768973Get rid of Jews
>>545768973Government for everybody! Do you realize that at that point you only need one no to be totally fucked? It can be rhetorical if you're uncomfortable.
>>545768973>>545769075>>545769136you don't have a right to healthcare because that would imply a right to slavery. you just know they're going to give healthcare and housing to foreigners and expect Americans to pay for itAlso, they're doing none of that shit. They already said their main priorities are banning guns and opening the border
>>545769214>so why is free police or fire services fine?Good point, ancap. Let's abolish them.
>>545769287build them where? Land is very expensive and so is materials/labor. It's impossible to build cheap housing and make a profit for developers or whoever it building it.
>>545768973Why aim so low? Everybody should have a mansion and private jet and private yacht. You're a bad person because you question how they can be provided, while I'm a good person because I simply state people should have them with no realistic plan for it happening.
Jew fuckery and you will be taxed to hell to pay for this 'free' shit...
>>545769260Yeah Denmark and Norway are failed states bro.Everyone in Switzerland lives in communist gulags.
>>545768973Because niggers
>>545768973I don’t want to pay inflated prices to subsidize obese niggers.
I think my tax dollars should only go into the pockets of billionaires and none of it should make it back to me.
>>545769509All those policies on paper sound nice but are contradicting when they want open borders and a billion shitskins
>>545769214Cheaper to pay taxes for police and fire than it is to go without house insurance. A lot of cityfags don't realize the issue with small communities and their fire departments. A city near me didn't have budget to pay for 2 firefighters so had to cut one. Insurance companies heard about it the day after and sent a notice to the 300 or so houses that now would no longer have a fire department within 15 miles of their house that their policy would be cancelled. That really is the only reason fire departments exist along with protecting corporate property.
>>545768973I don't believe health care is a right necessarily, but I do think it should be affordable and available to everyone who contributes.
>>545768973>>545769075Communism isn't reasonable.
>>545769295I do not care about this person's life, Anon.>>545769346>le nigger spook is why we cannot gave nice thingsClearly we cannot have nice things if you are delusional faggot.>>545769360It astounds me that America could build the interstate highway, build the Hoover Dam, build the Empire State Buidling - but cannot figure out in current year how to accomplish anything. The USA is 3,809,525 square miles (Wikipedia) and there is a population of 341,784,857. I think we have enough fucking land if capitalists would stop paywalling existence. Just build it.
Do they not understand that 2&3 are both impossible because of immigration? I oppose immigration because I want 2&3
>>545769214Those aren’t rights either, retard.
>>545768973I'm more of a libertarian, but I'll give my take>1Because American Conservatives(tm) are retarded. They act like every universal healthcare system is the NHS at its worst. Just do the social insurance model you see in Austria or Japan. Or Obamacare on steroids you see in Switzerland. Just don't copy the NHS.>2Because this in practice ends up being subsidizing demand while folding at the slightest pressure from NIMBY boomerlibs. The problem is supply side in the areas with meaningful jobs.>3Not a big minimum wage guy. We effectively have no minimum wage now, and the practical floor is $10-15. As far as workers' rights go, I'm kinda tired of small businesses treating their employees like shit in ways that wouldn't fly in big business and being exempt from it because they're such smol beans.
>>545769725people want to live in cities with jobs. I guess you could build cheap housing in super rural parts but nobody wants to live there.
>>545769214They aren't free they are fucking payed? Some firefighter services are volunteer groups but that's their choice, no one forces or expects it of them, a jeet probably would, subhumans feel entitled to everything.
>>545768973You don’t get these things through mandates retard
>>545769725>I do not care about this person's life, Anon.I know you don't. You also don't care about nor understand the concept of rights in general.
>>545769687Okay, retard. Show your flag. Trump had his 2 years to turn things around and accomplished nothing with it. Now the Democrats control Congress. Lame duck POTUS. I am not scared for communists at this point.
>>545769725Because of agglomeration effects, remote areas will almost always be poor and low on the value chain. Cities are where they are for geographic reasons and decades of human capital agglomeration that have been baked in for centuries at this point. The closest thing to building a new city in the middle of nowhere in places like Huntsville that expanded to serve engineers and technical personnel that supported military R&D. And that was decades ago. You have to build where the economic activity is.
>>5457689731) The money for it has to come from somewhere. Say what you will about certain procedures costing you a literal arm and a leg, nobody should have to be fork over 100,000 for a life-saving procedure, but in any regard, someone has to foot the bill, and it's not going to be the government.2) Affordable housing is a housing market situation. Land is limited, and the only way to make more housing is to build UP. Landlords are "to blame" for part of it, but that's entirely on the next part, in all truth.3) You simply cannot fucking have this, under any circumstance. When the "cost to live" always grows, eventually everyone gets priced out. If you were making $25 an hour today in a $15 minimum wage world, and suddenly the minimum wage will be $25, you will not magically get $35. You will work for the $25 and be happy with it. Businesses will be forced to make layoffs, to pay for those things, so if you were working one of those $15 an hour jobs, now you're at risk of losing it because it just costs too damn much to pay you now. Suddenly, the business sector loses out on all of its employees, and for everyone else, that ball gets kicked down the road to increased costs of food, heating, gas, electricity, and indulgent commodities because those who can now afford them are buying MORE of them like the repulsive and indulgent gnats they are.1) Tax everyone so that costs go down2) Tax properties at higher rates3) When everyone has a living wage, no one does.
>>545769134>>Muh anecdotal life experience is what matters and it's the only valid one in a country of 349 million people People like this don't want their country to progess and their fellow country men to do well. America is fucked. Lmao retard.
>>545768973>Universal HealthcareOnly works if the healthcare system is nationalized and hospitals are prevented from making obscene profits. Doctors, now making $300K a year before bonuses, would have to be conscripted as government workers and paid the equivalent of Majors in the Army.>Affordable housingHousing cost ballooned around 2020 because of immigration and private equity firms buying up housing stock. Eliminate both, it will prevent the inflation in the housing market, but we're mostly locked into to those prices for a while- nobody wants to sell for less than they paid and in most cases can't. Eventually, wages might catch up with inflation.>Living wages and workers rightsRemove immigrants who reduce the prevailing wage and wages will rise, workers rights will be more retainable.
>>545768973Because achieving them takes a lot more than writing 3 bullet points claiming people deserve them, and typical leftists approaches don't solve the issue as evidenced by states that have been blue for 30 straight years having some of the least livable wages and most expensive housing in the country. Having control of the federal government isn't going to suddenly make retarded policies start working.>>545769214Police are required to enforce state and local law and are funded by state and local government, and the fire department started getting funded by local governments to avoid jurisdictional issues with private firefighters. The biggest difference though is scale. Hiring a few people to perform emergency services is much less expensive than paying for everyone's healthcare.
>>545768973More government overreach is almost never a good thing
>>5457689731. will double your tax burden and triple your wait times2. housing is affordable in the suburbs, compare your cost with canada and parts of western europe3. lol we have AI now. if the goyim get uppity then the robots get deployed.
>>545768973>I hurt myself, it’s everybody’s problem>I’m a lazy nigger, give me a house>I have no skills, pay me as if I did
>>545769725>>le nigger spook is why we cannot gave nice things>Clearly we cannot have nice things if you are delusional faggot.dems will 100% give any healthcare, housing or jobs to third world shitskins and not Americans, retard
>>545769134>i sucked my boss's dick to get a promotion and a raise! anyone can do it!Kill yourself.
>>545768973These belong to Israel you fucking COMMIE
>>545768973cause they cost money? are you a dumb fucking nigger?even if you stripped the US military budget all this shit would bankrupt the country at 300mil population
>>545768973America is filled with third world low iq white, black and brown brainlets that cannot understand how this could be possible without being a muuuuh communist
>>545768973Universal Healthcare for Browns and blacks at the expense of whitesAffordable housing for browns and blacks at the expense of whites (but don't worry boomers, you get to keep yours)Living wages and workers rights for Browns and blacks at the expense of whites. I don't know why whites might be against this! Its a mystery!
>>545769620So are you just going to pretend the problem is unsolvable solely to benefit your insurance industry while even third world countries have better life expectancy and access to healthcare? What's the plan?>>545770069You already have worse outcomes than everyone else while paying more for healthcare. There's nowhere left to go but up.>>545770160>someone I hate might benefit from the same system I do, let's die of preventable diseases instead
>>545768973Healthcare is not a rightYou should replace universal healthcare with affordable healthcare on your list. It would be smarter and more efficient to simply aim for affordable healthcare, using goverment intervention only when necessary to work towards this goal rather than adopt a fully socialised system and take on all the problems such a system inherently has.And yes affordable housing, and living wages and both important. They are economic issues and the solution is a properly managed economy that finds a balance between maximising economic efficiency and maximising social outcomes. Go too far in either direction and the system becomes unsustainable.Workers rights is a very broad subject and can mean completely different things to different people. Every Western nation has workers rights, but those rights can be very different. Every Western country has robust workplace saftey regulation. But should a mother be entitled to 6 months paid maternity leave? How much redundancy pay should an employee be entitled to? How much leeway should employer and employee have to negotiate these types of terms? These are all highly debatable points with no universally applicable solution.
>>545769075fpbp
Wanting this just for Whites is called National Socialism.Wanting it for browns is "Democratic" Socialism. According to the faggots that be, anyway.
>>545769818Build additional cities, sweetie. Can you anarcho capitalist LARPers imagine infrastructure, housing, businesses - state-building? Are you pretending to be retarded?>>545769936Humans do not deserve rights. Humans are clearly so stupid and helpless that they cannot create a prosperous, peaceful civilization by their own efforts. I would sell out every one of you to the advanced aliens, in that fictional scenario, dumbass.
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>affordable housingTypical kike phrasing to frame the situation in a pro-rentoid way. I don't want (((affordable housing))) I want affordable HOUSES. I want to OWN something. I don't care if it's small. >uhhh sweaty but you have to maintain itOkay well if you're renting you are paying for the maintenance anyway via your rent >uhhh sweaty but you have to pay property taxesYou think your landlord doesn't? You think he isn't taking that from your rent?It's like the bullshit turning "gun control" into "gun safety" it's just linguistic manipulation to make you look unreasonable.
>>545769999>Only works if the healthcare system is nationalized and hospitals are prevented from making obscene profits. Doctors, now making $300K a year before bonuses, would have to be conscripted as government workers and paid the equivalent of Majors in the Army.No it doesn't. Only the retarded fucking Bongloids have their doctors as civil servants. It doesn't work that way in Austria, Germany, Japan, etc, etc. Even Canada, they're not government employees. The British are uniquely retarded in this way.Why do contards think the British NHS is the only way to run a universal healthcare system? It's not and frankly, it's a pretty crap model.
>>545770108>I hurt myself, it’s everybody’s problemThis is the Christian mind they always preach about kek>I’m a lazy nigger, give me a houseIt's better than having them shitting on your streets in tents. Again, a Christian country should care for all.>I have no skills, pay me as if I did.Ai is here. You'll be out of a job soon working for peanuts
>>545770356>Typical kike phrasing to frame the situation in a pro-rentoid way. I don't want (((affordable housing))) I want affordable HOUSES. I want to OWN something. I don't care if it's small.In America, they're called "condos"; but they give you an aneurism for some reason.
>>545768973They have no planned policies to implement any of that.The current policies they've established are entirely permissive and designed to be leveraged against dissenters.Solving any of these problems means losing their fundraising opportunities.Millennials still voting Democrat are fucking morons who have seen this all before and willfully delude themselves.
>>545770356I don't want anyone to own a house. If it were up to me homeowners would be jailed.
>>545770226>>someone I hate might benefit from the same system I do, let's die of preventable diseases insteadyes
>>545770226that's because americans eat like shit, dont exercise, drink excessively, are more stressed and generally live more degenerate lifestyles. free healthcare is not going to fix that retard.
>>5457689731. How will you pay for it? Print more money?2. Totally doable, but nobody in any party has the spine to do it.3. It should, but you'd have to get rid of (((inflation))) and (((offshoring))), neither of which will ever happen. The United States of America is dead, and it's never coming back.
>>545769350>>545769773>>545769175Annnnd this is why America is a shit hole.
>>545769509If the Nordic monarchies or federalized Republics are somehow leftist because they have social safety nets and welfare, doesn’t that make Imperial Germany leftist as well? >FlagDelusional nonsense from an actual failed state (Republic #5) considering IMF loans to stave bankruptcy lmao. The French approach would probably be the closest to what American leftists would actually get, with giant taxation + immigration + political dysfunctional + giant unsustainable expenditures.
>>545769136>2. how do you make housing affordable?Kill everyone and everything related to Black Rock
>>545768973Satan makes many sweet-sounding promises
>>545768973Does this also apply to 1 billion indian immigrants
>>545770425I don’t live in the Vatican City.
>>545769134If it’s not possible how come third world nigger shitholes manage it just fine? Also the affordable care act isn’t universal healthcare but you know that
>>545769986Understandable. People just have concentrated in coastal cities, because of maritime trade and services. If we make other remote parts of the country appealing like with utilities, medicine, transportation, and stable high paying job opportunities, people will move there and we can easily build additional housing without treating it as a speculative money-extracting market. Trump's tariffs have not fixed offshoring of those crucial industrial jobs that may expand domestic economic opportunities.
>>545770444>In America, they're called "condos"Yeah and they come with condo fees that can be raised arbitrarily or exposed to some kike HOA scam. I know property taxes can go up too but that's at least subject to some recourse.
>>545770226>>545770743> third world countries have better life expectancy and access to healthcareThey don’t. America’s system got price fucked in the 70s with gouging by for profit companies that really only became a national dilemma in the 2000s. Yet it has the appropriate medical instruments and lacks endless queues. Do you actually think India, Mexico, Turkey’s Universal Healthcare is actually good for its average person? Sure it’s great for tourists who can throw money usually at private doctors there, but the average person is subject to pounding sand in a way unthinkable for most of the West.
>>545770564>Annnnd this is why America is a shit hole.Low IQ morons that literally fight tooth and nail for their own poverty, this is the typical rightoid in America.
>>545768973> Why would anybody be against these things?Because it's semantic nonsense. Healthcare is not a right. And too vague a term.Housing is already affordable. picrel.A full time job is not necessarily worth a livable wage. Wishful thinking is irrelevant.
>universal healthcareThe worst aspects of the USA are the most within the realm of "socialism">affordable housingSo you're gonna deport immigrants to reduce the cost of housing? What about make it illegal for any non-citizen to own land within the USA?>living wages and workers' rightshigher wages make everything more expensive. I live in WA and can affirm that higher wages just drive up the cost of living. And workers rights? You mean like the right of workers to refuse experimental "vaccines" which have had no true trials or long-term tests?It's all nonsense. Don't get fooled by pretty promises. Look at their track record:Worse living conditionsMore EXPENSIVE cost of livingWorse healthcareEtc.
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>>545768973To understand the mind-poisoned right-wing perspective, you have to imagine each of those with a big asterisk next to it, and the fine print says "* for brown people."But this perspective exists because the owners and billionaires have used racism to propagandize people against supporting causes that benefit them personally.
>>545771287Handicap accessible, nice. Could save money on gimp hookers.
>>545769136Commieblocks built with money raised from a 90% federal sales tax on everything. When you have no money left, you can survive on the ratio you get from the government bread line. Just like soviet times.
>>545768973Same reason people are against UBIIgnorance, masochism, hate.Describing humanity as "crabs in a bucket" is an understatement really
>>545768973Because they always come bundled with open borders and kill all white people, which results in corporations saving even more money than if they gave us nothing
>>545770580You pay more taxes than I do and get less for it.I pay 13% on income and my health insurance is 30 euros a month for total coverage.Okay Mr. $40,563,011,196,684 of national debt and counting.>>545770496Those obese welfare niggers are already getting healthcare and housing for free, and you're paying for it with your taxes as we speak. It's called Section 8 and Medicaid. You have to pay extortionate insurance fees to corrupt companies that deny your claims, and Shaniqua gets socialized healthcare on your dollar.Why shouldn't you benefit from the taxes you already pay? Taxes aren't a tithe to the king, they're an exchange of currency for social services. What services are you purchasing with your taxes?>>545771087In terms of preventable mortality and disease, the USA is ranked just above Romania and Brazil.Preventable mortality is approximately 50% higher than the OECD average.So no, it's not good, in fact it's most comparable to post-Soviet states in Eastern Europe like Estonia and Bulgaria which have infinitesimally small economies compared to yours.
>>545768973The Rich are TOTALLY AGAINST THIS!!
>>545771468Because they always come bundled with open borders and kill all white people, which results in corporations saving even more money than if they gave us nothingDon't forget they always want to take the guns firstAnd in every surviving communist state, it's more like the corporations merged with the government and now are the government, enforcing gentlemanly standards among themselves (what you see as crushing capitalist behavior is just a group of capitalists self regulating like a mafia)communism = corporate mafia takeover, oppression or elimination of native populace to eliminate chance of rebellion.huge plus if replacement group is indebted to the corporate mafia state.that is leftism.
>>545770564Scandinavia did everything you asked and it's the biggest shitholes.
>>545771603>Because they always come bundled with open borders and kill all white peop-I am oh so relieved your schizo bullshit isn't working anymore
>>545768973the gap between rich and poor in america right now is one of the worst in historyif you're not rich you're actually a cuck and retarded to not hate the rich america literally started because they thought the aristocracy in europe was gay and cringe and rape and now that the american aristocracy is gay and cringe and rape they expect people to just accept it
>>545768973>1. recess forever>2. no homework>3. no bedtimeDo voooters really??????
>>545771566>Why shouldn't you benefit from the taxes you already pay? The people promising it are the same ones that made us pay for shaniqua, you fool.>>545771674>It's schizo bullshit>its not happening>the government, literally: ____ IS TOO WHITE
>>545771566medicare and medicaid should be completely abolished that is an argument for another time. the point is currently 1/3rd of the US gets healthcare for free which they use and abuse, the system cannot support the other 2/3rds with that same attitude.
>>545768973Do you think government is capable of any of that?
>>545769214They aren't free tho
>>545769827Paid, not payed. Payed is not a word
>>545771685The aristocracy consists of the same people importing and hiring masses of immigrants while saying "white people have to pay for ____" and "a future without white power is safer" (left, wing imports immigrants)or"white people are entitled and can't compete with people who are actually good workers" (right wing, hires immigrants)Please notice trump is a "former" democrat, epstein was a democrat that privately held "right wing" beliefs, and half his friends are republican.The DSA is literally from the same circle (bought and paid for by soros)
>but muh troons>but muh brownsYou're focused, like always, on the wrong 1%
This seems like a high quality thread that has been posted in good faith.
>>545768973>Why would anybody be against these things? They are so common sense and straightforward that they are good for people on both the left and the right.They country is already bankrupt, so anyone selling those for more votes has no ability to deliver them.
>>545771566based post except for>debtlearn how fiat works
>>545771874Hold on, who paid the foreigner to be there and why did he say the foreigner deserved the cookie more?
>>545771825we had some pushback on this until you started a war in iran and fucking ruined it for everyone you fucking migger faggot
>>545769214>freeNigger leftists dont know what socialism is. Ain't NOTHING in this world for free.
>>5457689731.) Universal Healthcare — Can only exist in a closed system with strongly enforced borders.2.) Affordable Housing — Cannot be achieved alongside mass migration. 3.) Living Wages & Workers Rights — Can only exist in a closed system where labor can organize and strike without being undercut by cheap migrant labor.The DSA platform can only exist in a fascist nation.
>>545768973you pay for it then bitch.
>>545771874Why is there a foreigner at the negotiation table?
>>545770743Yes, because Republican Retards sabotaged it like they always do. Bill Clinton tried to move the US to the superior Bismarck model, and you guys shit yourselves and blocked it. Now we pay 50% more as a percentage of GDP than other first world countries for about the same outcomes.
>>545768973>universal healthcareEvery single place that has this also has stuff like caps on doctors salaries. I'm not against doctors earning less. But it seems completely incompatible with the American system. And in places like the UK there aren't enough doctors. Because who wants to do the most stressful job on Earth and not get paid a ton of money for it? 30% of doctors in the UK are foreign born. Nigerians and Indians. Not an ideal situation.>Affordable housingIncompatible with diversity and soft-on-crime policies>Living wagesIncompatible with open borders ideology
>>545772022>Now we pay 50% blah blah blahThanks Obama care!!
>>545768973>compelling someone else to provide me medical services is a rightNonsensical. That's a privilege, by definition. It's a reasonable discussion whether it's a privilege we should agree to collectively provide, but that starts with being honest about what it is. nigger
>>545772049A Democrat of will would break the back of the American Medical Association and allow for more doctors, instead of the cartel-like citizen that keeps supply scarce and wages exorbitantly high.
>>545768973I will totally dominate you in word and thought and concicityUNIVERSAL SUNLIGHTUNIVERSAL ETERNAL ORGASMSUNIVERSAL EVERYTHING IS FREE ALL THE TIME AND NOBODY NEEDS TO WORK EVER> fucking owned
People at the very least need to be able to be stitched up, bones set, poison/burn treatment, and babies delivered. Otherwise everyone's just gonna stay home and play videogames all day
>https://youtu.be/GSYeqjfd77Y
>>545772072It was true long before the ACA. Our healthcare "model" is neither cheap nor particularly good. It only looks good in comparison to one of the worse implementation of universal healthcare in the UK.
It's just not worth leaving your house if one infected cut is just gonna kill you
>>545769175So, you don't have the right to firefighters? Are they slaves? If you call 911 and say "my house is on fire" can they say "no fuck you communist"? That's right. Fuck off, retard.
>>545771685>america literally started because they thought the aristocracy in europe was gay and cringelol no America started as a royal crown charter, the Virginia company. The pilgrim shit is propaganda. It's a plantation, and always has been.
>>545768973I don't trust the government to figure that shit out. And you're a fool if you do.
>>545769996Dont talk to daddy like that. >>545769134Dont worry daddy im here. You won't get bullied any more. Everyone will still think you're tough
>>545771784i'm old enough to remember when the debt was only 20 trillion! it seemed like such a big number to my 10 year old self
>>545769346no, the federal government can pay the drs by spending the money into existence. if you tax the wealthy instead of the working class as well, you would see a lot of improvement.but you dont pay for other's health care, its a myth. the government doesnt need to tax in order to spend, it creates the money with new spending.
>>545769734It's almost as if certain socialist policies work best on a national scale...
>>545769134>obamacare already proved that it's not possibleThis morning I was awoken by my alarm clock powered by electricity generated by the public power monopoly regulated by the US department of energy. I then took a shower in the clean water provided by the municipal water utility. After that, I turned on the TV to one of the FCC regulated channels to see what the national weather service of the national oceanographic and atmospheric administration determined the weather was going to be like using satellites designed, built, and launched by the national aeronautics and space administration. I watched this while eating my breakfast of US department of agriculture inspected food and taking the drugs which have been determined as safe by the food and drug administration.At the appropriate time as regulated by the US congress and kept accurate by the national institute of standards and technology and the US naval observatory, I get into my national highway traffic safety administration approved automobile and set out to work on the roads built by the local, state, and federal departments of transportation, possibly stopping to purchase additional fuel of a quality level determined by the environmental protection agency, using legal tender issued by the federal reserve bank. On the way out the door I deposit any mail I have to be sent out via the US postal service and drop the kids off at the public school.After work, I drive my NHTSA car back home on the DOT roads, to house which has not burned down in my absence because of the state and local building fire codes and fire marshal's inspection, and which has not been plundered of all its valuables thanks to the local police department.I then log on to the internet which was developed by the defense advanced research projects administration and post about how SOCIALISM in medicine is BAD because the government can't do anything right.
>>545771948>you startedI'm not donald trump, a former democrat and a close friend of jefrey epstein, faggot.do i stop being right because a "former" democrat and epstein island attendant appropriated my views? is that how you think? then the jews are right to call you cattle after all
>>545772240as a canadian i have to push back on thinking our powdered wig guys are competent the jews cleared them out years ago, look up the bronfmans and seagrams
i found a gen alpha vid on this topic roflmaohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUkJ3mkpdp0
>>545771722It could if you weren't doing it in the most retarded way possible.This is a solved problem, the USA is not special or unique in any way that would prevent it from working. You don't have a larger population than China, you're not more diverse than Brazil, you don't have a larger percentage of welfare recipients than the UK.Universal healthcare is cheaper for everyone, including you, and you wouldn't be seeing comparable health outcomes to fucking Bulgaria.Don't be gaslit into defending an industry that exists to scam you because you've been convinced capitalism means some Jew CEO can decide not to honor your contract and cover your cancer treatment.You should be paying less for better service. I still pay for health insurance, the difference is my deductible is a tenth of yours because we don't have a retarded hybrid system where you're taxed for Medicaid that you're not allowed to use and then also have to pay a huge insurance fee. You're paying for two services with no grantee that you can benefit from either.
>>545769260You are so fucking afraid of your neighbor getting to see the doctor and not working 70 hour weeks that you have to project your weird Nazi shit onto everyone else.
>>545769986cities mostly started getting bigger because people were forced into them, and forced to abandon their former self sufficient existencehttps://archive.org/details/pdfy-LuLDoAesqb6uwxVU
>>545772315>i'm retarded without being jewishi'd put you against the wall first
>>545768973You can't sustain any of those when you allow countless migrants in.Retards in Spain are protesting over affordable housing, yet say nothing about the 500,000 illegals who were given residency or whatever and countless others who came thinking they'll be accepted.Many also forget a majority of hospitals are privately owned. Seems like a major handout to them.
>>545772288>all of that sucks and makes our lives significantly worsewell, there you godid you know the entire reason factory farms and slaughterhouses are nightmarish is because pointless FDA regulations mean basically every farmer sends their livestock to a few facilities? entirely because they have better lawyers? and the entire reason we lose massive amounts of food to disease outbreaks too?
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>>545769134>obamacare already proved that it's not possible, plus how do you think we will pay for it you dumb niggerBecause it was sabotaged by the Republicans, like Clinton's attempt to make our insurance system work like Germany or Japan. The ACA was the most Republican friendly universal-ish healthcare proposal Obama could have given you. It was national Romneycare, which itself came from a policy paper from the Heritage Foundation.And that wasn't good enough, and you had to go on fearmongering about death panels to throw everything at it. You will get Medicare-4-All implemented by retarded Bernie Bros and you will like it even less. You get what you fucking deserve for sabotaging the moderate options over and over again.
>>545768973"Universal" health care in the land of anti-white affirmative action and DEI.Yeah, no sale. You're not even trying to convince me of anything. It's just a power grab.
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>>545771468zordon wants to ban guns, shitskin>>545771603this>>545771674>>545771704some of the dems who literally just got elected have already talked about passing laws to let more haitians in>>545772278the dems will 100% raise taxes on White people and then give the money to foreign browns
>>545772406>no rebuttalHow did I start a war if I'm not donald trump?I held these opinions when donald trump was still registered as a democrat and close friends with fellow registered democrat, jeffery epstein.Jews are genuinely right to call you cattle.
>>545772288Good. Now all you need is the BBC.
>>545769287>NIMBYs blocking new construction.Everyone is a NIMBY. If you owned a house or rented, would you want a data center, homeless shelter, or safe injection site down the street from your house?
>>545772453You get healthcare too you moronic retard.
>>545772399You really think people agglomerated into Rome, Byzantium, Venice, or medieval Baghdad because of enclosure laws hundreds of years later?
>>545769993and thats why buccees and in n out burger are failures and you never heard of them
>>545772493Matrix Trannies solved this problem so long ago it's like you're new.
>>545771685Except in ameirca to join the rich you just need to get a fucking job.>>545772389France literally can't even eliminate it's free healthcare program, you are proof you can't solve the problem
>>545769214It's not free, and it's slowly dwindling because people can't afford to donate their time to fent addicts and the elderly calling 911 because they're bored.
>>545772533>American socialism>white people getting healthcareJust like we get the same amount of college scholariships as everyone else amirite
>>545768973Your faggot batista job shouldn't be able to fund your fucking life get a better job.
>>545772484honestly there's no real way to square that circle and we should have all stayed in europe and made that the new america
>>545772584>France literally can't even eliminate it's free healthcare programWhat are you trying to say? I speak better English than you do.
>>545772600Bartistas are some of the wealthiest people in america due to tips that they don't report.
>>545772389chinese, brazilians, and british literally fly here for faster, better healthcare. to, yknow, avoid dying.all diverse countries btw.
>>545772630You can't speak English or French, you're a poor illiterate. I speak English and French better than you.America has solved the problem of French healthcare, our system provents the homeless from using it.
>>545772584>memeflag>let me tell you how your country sucks
>>545772636And full time workers normally have healthcare paid for by their employer lmao
>>545769287>NIMBYsYIMBYs are just overeducated but underachieving seething faggots who want to move into the most desirable parts of established cities at a discount. Go buy a house somewhere that is still a gamble, that's what everyone else did you faggot entitled child
>>545769136>how do you make housing affordable?have a government owned building firm build basic mid-rise apartment blocks that can be quickly and easily built and approved, potentially using pre-fab factories to pump them out and slot them together with short turnarounds. private building.firms contracted by the government can't be trusted for shit.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-07-28/nsw-sydney-ghost-apartment-blocks-towers-vacant-homes/104132070
>>545769725>It astounds me that America could build the interstate highway, build the Hoover Dam, build the Empire State BuidlingHoover Dam and Empire State Building were built in the 30s, when the population was 128 million. The highway was planned and began in 1956. There weren't many regulations back then.It's crazy people still think Congress can do anything about housing when states manage their own zoning.
>>545771948>let me tell you how your President sucks
>>545772610>nonsense postingPlease, remember, no one here is donald trump.Donald Trump is a "former" democrat and close friend of fellow democrat, Jeffery Epstein.
>>545772693Sounds british
>>545772639Yeah because the USA has some of the best, most advanced medical facilities in the world, and some of the most qualified doctors and researchers.And you can't use them because you can't afford it.The US medical industry is cutting edge, the problem is that almost no Americans get to benefit from it.
>>545768973>Why would anybody be against these things?Who's paying for it?Do you think these things are free? We have $40 TRILLION in debt and an incredibly incompetent and corrupt government that uses every form of government spending as an opportunity to fuck you and give your money to corrupt contractors.Just because you tax people and then give the money to the government it doesn't make things "free". The government enslaved everyone it taxed for their labor then it spent their money on things that well corrupted lobbyist contractors provided then it gave it back to the people it chose to privilege while taking credit for what the money they stole from the people did.The government is not your friend and just because it "gives" you something doesn't mean you didn't pay for it.
>>545772533I can't wait for the GOP to fuck off and die like the Whigs already. Just completely unwilling to debate any serious policy on the merits. They probably don't even write their own white papers anymore, just grok it, and yell at the slopbox when the output doesn't confirm their priors.
>>545772833Your premise is that Donald Trump is a pederast, yet the last 15 years and various Democrats in power in the DOJ and the FBI and the CuntSA never outed him.Are you the dumbest vanta black nigger who ever niggered a paintjob
>>545772851I can afford it but I hold a full time job, don't get fired every two years, haven't gone house poor/car poor, and literally did not spend money in my 20s. I had a job in my 20s.You don't seem to understand how healthcare or life in this country actually works.
>>545771287>housing is already affordablea trailer like that is already at least $150-200k thanks to the post-pandemic surge of grey nomads and people travelling for a living (and that's if you can find a company to build them, we've had like 5 go bankrupt this year). you also need somewhere to put it
>>545772851>Yeah because the USA has some of the best, most advanced medical facilities in the world, and some of the most qualified doctors and researchers.And you can't use them because you can't afford it.Your daddy owns a Yacht, you'll be fine whiner.
>>545772831who is your president you fucking memeflag retard?
>>545772851We had way better stuff in bedislova
>>545772932Trump was a DEMOCRAT pedophile, yes. Half of Epstein's friends were democrats and the people implicated in some of the worst shit were democrats. Republicans it seems just went to epstein island to fuck and then leave
>>545772448>like Clinton's attempt to make our insurance system work like Germany or Japan.Retards like you deserve cancer.You aren't serious, I can't wait until Trump and Putin actually start WW3 so we can divert even more resources away from healthare.The idea of free healthcare is so childish and stupid. It's like a 5 year olds understanding of things. Its toothfairy/Santa magic logic and it's embarassing.
>>545772905>We have $40 TRILLION in debtYeah, because you keep putting in Republicans who spend more and cut revenue. The sovereign debt is a problem that only exists for conservatives up until their guy is inaugurated, which is then followed by a spending spree more lavish than the previous Democrat.
>>545772753Right.>hey you three, go build 15 homes for each of you and give 12 to people that refuse to even mow a lawn.
>>545772970Trump and he's the best leader ever.>>545772946There's places where you can get a house for only $700k if you're willing to commute.
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>>545768973communism
>>545773030>Just ignore that democrats are also the epstein class and want to replace us with cheaper labor that is grateful to them rather than opposed to themYou can literally just read the epstein files and actual statements from leftists and leftist NGOs and know this
>>545773054ok remove the flag bud
>>545773028You are so out of your depth that you are not even wrong.
>>545773054$700k isn't affordable
>>545768973fuck niggers, spics, chinks, jeets, and jews
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>>545768973>Universal HealthcareOk, how are you going pay for it? Doctors, nurses, & health insurances don't work for free. Every little thing in the hospitals and clinics cost money. With taxes? Great, how are you gonna do that without increase the cost of living? >Affordable HousingWon't happen while you are still defending illegals from getting deported by ICE. As long as the illegals are around, the housing will be unaffordable.>Living Wages & Workers' RightsYou already have "workers rights", as for living wages, see the answer above, since it too affects wages.
>>545773124You shouldn't even expect a place for under a million
>>545772482they dont take money from one group and give it to others, it doesnt work that way. the money that is taxed is effectively destroyed by the federal government. all new spending is new money creation. you should look into public banking like they do in north dakota.>>545772565of course not, i was speaking of the west, where we live, and why we are living in the state we are now. this should be obvious. >>545772600checkwhy not? they are charging 3-4 dollars for what amounts to hot water with flavouring. if they sell one cup from a pot they make their cost back. they are some of the biggest companies out there, they can afford to pay their workers
>>545769134>obamacare already proved that it's not possible,Americans are so brainwashed it's funny.
>>545768973>Universal healthcareWe will tax you into the ground to give you shit healthcare. You will no longer be able to have any social mobility.>Affordable housingWe will seize your private property. You will only be able to live in slums.>living wages and workers rightsWe will make money worthless through inflation and eliminate social classes by locking you into the slave caste.See every single country socialism/communism has been tried.
>>545772493>Data centerThe people building them don't want them near their neighborhoods>Homeless shelter Absolutely. That would be fucking great for my homeless brother and sister. Because I'm not a fucking monster.>Safe injection siteIf the drugs are already running rampant through the neighborhood, as they are through most counties, then why the fuck not? Not my fault most parents don't want to admit that or deal with the fact that their kids are junkies.
>>545772600Then what's the point of a fucking job you stupid faggot?
>>545773030Yeah, the Neo Cons aren't conservatives and neither is Trump. The Democrats fuck us constantly too though and their programs make the budget worse not just for themselves; but for the administrations that come afterwards and have to fund all their stupid shit.The government is crap; both parties are crap, neither of them deserve your trust, neither of them are capable of administering the responsibility to run universal healthcare or affordable housing.I want less government. Less Democrats, Less Republicans, I want all of them out of our fucking lives. No more taxes on the working class and drastic cuts in government spending. If you want to actually help the working class somehow then just redistribute some of the income tax as UBI and give everyone a check to spend however they want. Government spending our money for us leads to nothing but corruption and waste.
>>545773394No point in being a Doctor if any job can afford food you socialist monster.
>>545773028>The idea of free healthcare is childishSee>>545773229To understand how wrong and psychotic you actually are you stupid fucking faggot.
>>545773229Universal Healthcare being possible isn't the issue. The issue is that our government is corrupt and incompetent. We already spend 25% of our discretionary budget on healthcare, how much more do you want? 30%? 50%?This isn't a system you can trust with more money or more power.
>>545773492You are either 14, retarded, or both.
>>545773186Do a little reading. But you're going to do the usual "huh? wuh? bwah?" that conservatives do whenever the very simple question of "how does a country fund its universal healthcare system?"Here's Austria. No scary NHS single payer here. Just the social insurance model used by dozens of countries that consumes less of the economy while delivering modestly better outcomes.https://eurohealthobservatory.who.int/publications/i/austria-health-system-summary-2022
>>545768973None of these will apply to white males. Any and all programs created will be for immigrants, niggers or white women.
>>545773406>Yeah, the Neo Cons aren't conservatives and neither is Trump. The Democrats fuck us constantly too though and their programs make the budget worse not just for themselves; but for the administrations that come afterwards and have to fund all their stupid shit.They are conservatives, you are a conservative, and you fall for it every single time.
>>5457689731. isn't a human right like people think it is. No you being given the best healthcare all for free isn't a right because why? Not everyone deserves to live. Most people can afford it anyway. So if you have cancer, make 10K a year blowing homeless men at the Wendys you deserve death period. If you kill yourself by being obese and never changing you deserve no healthcare. It shouldn't be a thing where we all have to keep idiots and lowlifes alive.One other little reason is you see the checkmate social services have put Europe into. They may never recover from being this behind in the AI race its like they just went several steps behind on the tech tree. Europe had no money to nurture the tech industry because it all goes to free healthcare. And pensions tbf.Affordable Housing should be solved by building homes, or capitalism based regulation. Not rent controls. Young people should stop thinking they have a human right to live in NYC its always going to be expensive. Living Wages is tricky because it changes all the time, you also risk the chance of killing all ambition in your workforce to ever change and grow. If you could set up minimum wage to be enough to have a tiny apartment and food and a car maybe that is okay but most times a socialist wants 70K a year for doing McDonalds. Again see Europe and giving its people pensions which is strangling it to death slowly. You need to be careful with that shit.
>>545773550>>545773492Oh, also, this is why you lost tranny.
>>545769175Buying power>freeas in you pay your taxes and the service is 'free'.Having 100 different jewish insurance companies is less efficient than a system like Medicare in Australia. In Australia we also push people towards paying their own way there is a penalty for higher income earners without private insurance.It's really quite simple.Poorfags get 'free' healthcare. Richfags go to private hospitals.
>>545772939So you're confident that your insurance would pay out for a $3,000,000 surgery in a top treatment facility without fighting you if you suddenly developed a rare form of cancer?You're either lying in an attempt to make a point or delusional.The fact that you think medical tourism from foreign oligarchs is a gotcha is just sad. You are completely locked out of that bracket of treatment when it should be serving you first.You're very fortunate that most Americans have rejected Republicanism and people who know better than you are going to force feed you these advancements. You're going to hate it, and you'll complain the whole time, but you'll live a longer and healthier life because of it.The Democrat supermajority is going to be the best thing that ever happened to the American right, because the less control you have, the better your quality of life will be. After the last two years I genuinely no longer believe you can take care of yourselves.
>>545768973>40T debt>more gibs
>>545773229Conservatives would rather die of a preventable illness than admit that Clinton or Obama were right about anything.
>>545768973You forgot to include swamping the country with feral niggers, giving power to retarded women, killing the white race, making every existing media garbage nigger/femoid propaganda and grooming kids in the schools with gay/troon propaganda.
>>545768973Because it's impossible for the government to provide those things and when they try to it makes things a million times worse
>>545773770Although I should add that penalty is easily avoided with junk insurances so the system does reward the kikes.
so is it safe to say trump will cuck out and iran won at this point?
>>545772391You leftist pieces of shit support policies that make me work harder and longer.Kill yourself you compulsive liars
>>545773813It would be less gibs, as even expensive universal systems like Austria consume less of the economy than the US's.And if you hate women, you're in luck too. By crushing the insurance companies, you're eliminating an entire sector of foidslop jobs in healthcare administration that basically just involve wasting thousands of hours of time playing telephone between hospitals and insurance companies.
>>545773948You'd probably get 40 hour work weeks and paid vacations like every other developed nation, but sure.
>>545769214>freeyou don't understand what free means autistic faggot.
>>545773220>they dont take money from one group and give it to othersthat's literally what they do. zordon literally said he was going to increase taxes on White people
>>545771236>literally fight tooth and nailAre they literally fighting a tooth and a nail, you literal retard?
>>545768973That’s all downstream of a functional economy. Attracting and retaining businesses is the real magic trick and that’s what separates the bad governors from the good governors. Turns out spending other people’s money isn’t hard, it’s getting the money in the first place that tough. Who knew?
>>545769818a lot of those issues would be solved if we just went back to allowing remote work. It won't be applicable to every job obviously, like construction, warehouse, security, etc, but if people are free to do their office work at home that saves on commute and leaves you far more free to live wherever you want.
>>545773993I have 40 hour weeks and decent wages due to decades of capitalist economic development. Workers are much poorer in socialist nationsGovernment has done nothing but destroy it wages through money printing and government spendingLeftists are the biggest bootlickers on the planet
>>545773628>They are conservatives,No, they're not, they're the Uniparty. Just like the Democrats aren't leftists. They're globalist corporatists. They maintain the status quo of the corporate power structure, government bureaucracy, and the military industrial complex by siphoning off the wealth of the working class through taxes, inflation, and regulatory policies that fuck the American people on behalf of lobbyist interests.Nothing changes. The Democrats don't fix things, the Republicans don't fix things, they all just maintain the status quo while they keep us at each other's throats fighting over transvestites or abortion.>and you fall for it every single time.Did you think Obama was going to change things? Remember when he was going to fix healthcare with Obamacare and then healthcare costs doubled and insurance costs quadrupled while both industries made record profits. You tell me who's falling for it chief.
It's crazy how correct Nick Fuentes is
>>545769134>how do you think we will pay for it you dumb niggerAgain, never criticizing the trillion dollar miliary budget. Trillions or more for war easy, but Universal Healthcare? We're fucking too broke for that you commie fuck.
>>545774006>zordon literally said he was going to increase taxes on White peopleno, on richer and whiter neighbourhoods WHO PAY LESS TAXES THAN THE BROWN AND BLACK ONES. if you include the context it all becomes clear. and i was talking about the federal government, the mayor cant create money. so he was talking about the rich paying a fair share of the tax burden and not leaving it on the poor.if you make under 500,000 you should not be paying tax
>>545774178>posting chomskyLMAOArgument immediately invalidated
>>545774299Do you realize how much more expensive social services like healthcare are than the military?
americans are so golemized they think getting their needs met at the cost of vaguely inconveniencing jews and billionaires is painful to them
>>545768973>>545769075>>545769134>>545769136>>545769175I agree on the last 2.But fuck healthcare, there should be no healthcare we will have to spend trillions to keep obese black trannies alive.If you have poor health you should die.
>>545774178>Did you think Obama was going to change things? Remember when he was going to fix healthcare with Obamacare and then healthcare costs doubled and insurance costs quadrupled while both industries made record profits. You tell me who's falling for it chief.This did not happen. You belong in a mental institution.A ~2% YOY trend from 2009-2018 is better than the ~3.5% YOY increase from 2000-2009. The ACA worked, as imperfect and actively sabotaged as it was. And this makes the retard right like you seethe. Saddest words of tongue and pen, Clinton and Obama were right again.
Cut welfare to 0Cyt EBT to 0.Cut off section 8.No unemployment payments.No form of government assistance for anybody under any circumstances.#SaveMoney
Cut off social security.Ban healthcare.End all pensions paid to firefighters police and military.Save Money
>>545768973Against a wishlist? How are you going to do that and who gets these rights?1. Universal Healthcare. What does that even mean?2. Affordable housing. How? Are you paying?3. Living wages and workers rights. Are you paying?
>>545769996> America is fucked. Lmao retard> Looks at flagWhat are you on about?
>>5457745863. Ban all government assistance so workers get taxed less.
>>545774449Why would you want nigger care? What a stupid burger. Let them die.
We need an economy that benefits workers.
>>545768973Number one has failed worldwide. Anyone with money who wants medical treatment flies to the US to get medical treatment.Number two is always opposed by everything that you keep voting for. Urban centers and constant immigration keeps housing at extreme demand, while the property far away from such locations becomes undesirable yet remains disproportionately valuable due to the profitability of flipping property on government programs such as HUD.Number three is always opposed by everything you ALL keep voting for. One side keeps voting for less jobs and the other side keeps voting for more low skill workers. Both combine into the unholy collapse of living wages and workers rights.Everything I said is fact.
>>545774586Use the army to force jewish landlords to drop prices on housing.Then end property tax.No more taxes on owned properties so they have no excuse to overcharge on rent.Ban insurance. No auto insurance.Anytging you own you fully own and no need to pay tax
>>545773948You're a libertarian on 4chan. You already don't work faggot. You lost, tranny
>>545774425How is destroying the value of my wages and savings through money printing going to magically give me those things.
>>545774744If you force the Jews to drop prices nobody will sell you rent or houses. It's not worth it. They tried that shit here.
>>545774775>You're a libertarian on 4chan. You already don't workMost of us are known for working and being successful you incel loser.It's funny Libertarians ended up being correct about everything.You are a central bank bootlicker
>>545768973>>545768973Does universal healthcare include transing children on taxpayer dime?Does affordable housing mean competing with 5 to 10 income "families" of illegals for subsidized boxes?Does living wages mean artificially inflated wages for workers that should be replaced by AI because of the detriment of them holding the positions while worthless fags?
>>545774790I want to make a more libertarian society by boosting workers wages by any means. So if you have will to work you get paid. And drastically reduce taxes by cutting all government assistance, pensions, healthcare, social security.Ending government dependence also encourages more close-knit families and community.
>>545774858It means more niggers yes
>>545774449>The ACA workedHOLY SHIT!We're reaching levels of cope that shouldn't be possible. You consider our current medical system a success! HAHAHAHAHAHA!This, this is why you'll never fix anything. The party shits in your mouth and you take it like a bitch then make excuses for them. Pathetic.
>>545774425This. So much this.
>>545772946You are not supposed to own it.You are supposed to rent it.You can afford the rent.
>>545774897I say it should be more expensive so less niggers show up. In fact I'd ban the relief for niggers. Non affordable care.
>>545774858Apparently you wanted those things because you had complete power over all three branches of government for two years and did absolutely nothing with it.I don't think the Democrats will be so complacent.
>>545774849Okay.Well dont force them.But still end all forms of government assistance including section 8.And if people bitch about it then deport them or shott them.It must be that in order to have housing you must work or rely on your working family.End all free shit. End all gibs.
>>545774853Every libertarian I have ever known is a faggot drunken druggie who can barely work as a security guard or a vape shop clerk.
>>545769628Oh no thats so awful that people will be forced to pay for fire sprinklers instilled in their house and not have to pay the insurance jew or tax jew anymore. That's a one time cost of several hundred dollars worth of copper pipes and fixtures and a couple afternoons soldering pipes that will last for decades :(
>>545768973Because those things will be applied selectively. Only jews and shitskins will benefit from them, while white men will be left with a higher tax bill.
America is collapsing because nobody wants to pay into a welfare state for someone else. Working is punished becauze it is all heavily taxed.We have system where evrryone has their hands out for free shit and we dont produce any value or exports.
>>545774970I can agree with that. Gibs is the source of many problems.
>>545775071Im at the point where if we don't cut gibs down to 0-5% of what it currently is, then we shouls burn the whole country to the ground.Working is being disincentivized.
Make gibs zero. That will make taxes close to zero. So people have more money in the pocket.
>>545769254Oh I know all about socialized health care. 95% goes to people past their life expectancy and the other 5% go to faggots who can't get out of their apartment because they've become too fat to fit out the doorway. The other issue is....it's even more evil than capitalism because all those doctors and administers give even less of a fuck when you're not the one who gets to decide if they get paid or not. Your service is a joke because if you don't like it you can go die. Get it? Ha ha.
Its all about reducing taxes on workers and boosting worker wages. That is fundamental to a thriving economy.
Also ban remittances.Make it illegal to send money to other countries.The only way for money to leave the country is if it is declared at the border.No electronic transactions sending dollars to mexico or india.
>>545768973Most people aren't against these things, other than maybe the occasional guy who thinks fat people deserve to go bankrupt or die, but immigration objectively makes all these things less feasible, and the party running on these also wants unlimited immigration (almost like it's by design *rubs hands*)
Keep all the money in circulation here by banning remittances.Boost worker wages.And reduce taxes by 90-95% by ending gibs and pensions.Make healthcare so you pay a doctor for service, no insurance no monthly insurance scams for health and auto or house.
>>545768973why is universal healthcare at the top, im hoping they mean to exclude boomers because it's mainly them that will be taking from that and i'd rather not. most of the young people would prefer 3 and 2.i also have no issues with wasting tax dollars but only if we stop using ours to fund israels education and healthcare.
>>545771874Solution: Destroy the jews utterly and to the last and put the tird worlders and subhumans back in their ancestral homes
>>545768973>Universal healthcareImpossible with illegals, niggers, fatties and druggies and jews>Affordable housingImpossible with boomers, illegals, niggers and jews>Living wages and workers rightsImpossible with illegals, poos, chinks and jews
>>545775545Regardless, it is fine for them to naively implement these solutions so we can see them fail and then go to next phase.
>>545768973because if it benefits you it's communism. if it benefits jews it's capitalism
>>545775545>>545775649Especially the healthcare one.It would be the whole National Debt in spending each year. It works a little less badly in Europe because their demographic situation is less bleak.Let them try it though, just so it can fail and we can get rid of it and then some.
>>545774315>no, on richer and whiter neighbourhoodsyeah, on Whites. dems want to tax Whites. shitskin
>>5457689732 and 3 are a yes, no question.The main issue to deal with is that 80% of our economy are service jobs.That is the primary task to deal with ao that we dont collapse.
i was told trump would be so mad he'd win the iran war somehowwhere that nigga at?
>>545774315>>545775715The primary issue is that we tax low/minimum wage workers at all.If you are poor you should not have to pay taxes.Then with that we also stop paying any forms of gibs so there is incentive to work rather than to be NILF or unemployed.
It's crazy how it's basically>the left: we want the world to be better>the right: OOOHHHJ FUUUCKCK WE ARE SO FUCKED ITS FUCKING OVER
>>545775843We can't afford that healthcare bullshit is all I'm saying.
>>545775710Kek
>>545775866Kel it would save us money
>>545775816>The primary issue is that we tax low/minimum wage workers at all.Don't be a pussy. Europe has no problem slapping their poor with 20% VATs
>>545768973Everyone I know that hates this bought the "we can't afford it" meme hard. The reason I don't support it is because poor people don't deserve medical treatment. Can you imagine? Doctors are in school well into their 30s. Answer honestly. Does some brown spic that drinks Modelos all day deserve the labor or someone who worked that hard to become a doctor? No. They don't. You cannot make an argument that they do. They deserve to work until they can't, and then they should just die.
>>545775843If the average Boomer would have put in a mere 10% of his earnings into the S&P 500, he would have about 2.3 million dollars upon retirement. Social Security takes 22%. I don't want your "help". FUCK OFF
>>545776173This. Red, poor states suck up all the care that should be going blue states
>>545771468>1772871569640106.jpgMamdani is a puppet of the jewish oligarchs, same as Trump.
>>545775843>we are GOOD GUYS and republicans are BAD GUYSare you incapable of thinking about anything beyond that?
>>545775816if the poors have no skin in the game they'll just vote for gibs, higher taxes and open borders
>>545776173You're just a psychotic faggot then.
