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New Zealand election today. Who do you want to win? Seems cut and dry that National are out.
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looking forward to the melty from /r/nz when the NACT coalition becomes even stronger.
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>>545770225
voted abroad party voted nzf gave electorate vote to nats and maori roll vote to labor (to stop tpm) doesnt rlly matter since i fled to aussieland
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>>545770225
Still haven't voted yet, keep changing my mind, not that I believe I'll swing the election of course, I'm thinking who I will regret least when they inevitably make some policy that goes against the White Man
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National is going to win mate the average goy here is retarded
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>>545770357
If you have a student loan (hopefully not) you wouldn't want to vote that way
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>>545770411
Everyone is in their own echo chamber. You hang around decent white people I'm assuming. But there is a lot of degenerate brown gay scum and all their friends vote for greens and labour and would be shocked if National side got in
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>>545770296
might jump ship if luxon is back in again. don't want to see the cunts smug face for 3 more years.
>>545770357
nzf lost me with wanting to open up the national parks for drilling. we need to protect our bush.
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>>545770409
take the test
whichparty.nz
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>>545770510
Labour has done nothing to warrant getting back in and the polls agree with me
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>>545770603
at least they are honest about not having anything. national keeps going on about this imaginary plan that everyone is sick of hearing about.
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>>545770601
Nah I'm extremely centrist so that doesn't work also they didn't include the cool fringe parties. If someone wants me to vote a certain way I might go do it and take a photo, I'm 15 min drive away
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vote TOP because we want to create more hapa babies WMAF is the future creampie all asian girls
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>>545770687
Yeah the survive until 25 plan didn't work. Their plan was to wait for the global economy to recover and claim it, but that never came
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I shouldve just not voted in my regular electorate vote lmao. Nationals campaigning in mandarin kinda turned me off ay but atleast them chinese chicks are cuties, built for BMC
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>>545770603
Labour comes with Greens and te party maori. no way around it. That alone warrants voting the right wing even if you don't want to
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>>545770718
vote labour, fuck it
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>>545770225
The Greens are the best choice by far. The Ardern Labour Government proved that NZ Labour are just establishment centrists. The Greens actually want to tax the ultra rich. We have the exact same situation with Labor vs Greens in Australia.
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i fear topp will hand it back to the nats
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>>545770603
Old chippy, say what you want about him, but he's the one who made cost of living a priority and also fired that bitch for getting photos with gangsters when cuxon and greens didn't
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david seymour is a paint sniffing retard who snapchats lil girls and gave kids the worst school lunches ever (and didnt want to put sushi in them because sushi is a "woke food" fucking tard)
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>>545770510
Lots of government workers are seething hard about austerity and will vote labor or greens. They miss the Jacinda era lolly scramble and do genuinely think Luxon and Seymour are just big meanies who only care about the rich.

The funniest and most likely thing to happen is Labour getting in and nothing likely changing on that front.
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>>545770763
National want to like double the interest rates for student loan people so if you have one it will fuck you over
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>>545770798
Australian Labor is also a disgrace that is effectively the old moderate wing of the Liberal party. No interest in doing anything to improve the life of the average person, only enriching business, donors and property investors
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>>545770858
haha the little black cunts should be happy with the food they got, he gave them better food than their loser parents
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>>545770859
I can imagine Wellington is voting left super hard because all those bullshit jobs were draining the rest of the country and allowing their degenerate little lefty paradise. Dunno if that's coming back because we're broke and pay equity and maoris are first in line before white email ladies
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>>545770870
As a blue collar guy, I say good. Why should I subsidize some academic cunt who is only going to fleece me when he grows up?, or fuck off to Austrailia?
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>>545770885
Absolutely agree. Imagine if the old Labor greats like John Curtin, Ben Chifley, and Gough Whitlam could see what became of the party today. Albanese relentlessly attacks even modest reforms that would make housing more affordable or raise taxes on the ultra wealthy.
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>>545770225
labour 1984 homosexual law reform bill employment contracts act privatization rail water power fisheries etc etc
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>>545770296
>>545770296
If TOP fails to clear the 5% threshold, there is no realistic pathway for Labour to form a coalition that can win. I suspect that in the voting booth, some people who have considered voting for TOP will get cold feet and decide not to do so, since they're within the margin of error for being below 5% in the latest polls and haven't proven that they have the capability to enter Parliament before. Also, as most of the left bloc's voters are urban dwellers, even a slight reduction in Auckland voter turnout (due to the heavy rain there) could be enough to shift the election to the Coalition.
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>>545770885
Did you know a few years back our Labor thought they were associated with the Aussie one and had to be told by the Aussies that actually no, there is no association and never has been it's just the same name kek
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>>545770999
blue collar workers will never feel the pain of when its cold in the office building and you forgot your jacket. Sissy blue collars could never
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>>545770999
you want customers to be able to pay for your services?
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>>545771036
I looked up some earlier polling data and was surprised to see TOP has about 2x support from men than women. The rest of parties were probably as you'd expect although the sex difference is actually pretty strong
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>>545771036
yeah thats what happens alot, minor parties always underperform polls because their voters change their minds last second. And honestly good because I dont know what the fuck TOP actually wants? Something like universal basic income? thatll never work
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>>545771014
Most of Labor's MPs and senators are property investors, they will never vote to make housing more affordable, it would hurt them all financially. Australia has never had so many homeless people as under Albanese's Labor party. Might be worst prime minister we've ever had, or at least competitive with Scott Morrison
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>>545771077
yeah they can afford it
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>>545771057
Yeah or having to work in the sun when it's like 40 degrees
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>>545770225
I hope the other guy wins against the guy you hate. Democracy forever until death!
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>>545771170
carney cum guzzler
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What are some actual changes you boys reckon will happen, regardless of the goyim opinion box.

I reckon

>kiwisaver will be regulated to only "safe"'investments, meaning NZ government bonds. And they'll use that to prop up deficit spending, flatten the bond yield and save the housing market
>OCR will remain flat and they'll slowly ease people into accepting 4-6% inflation. This will eat away at the 2022 mortgage holding baggies and save the country from a horrific 1990s Japan style housing market collapse. Inflation will hide the true damage.
>the supermarket regulations will be a shitshow, they'll fuck it up and be drawn further in. The quagmire will worsen until you start having the line between public and private sector be blurred with the supermarket industry. Already the talks of regulations and splitting are causing capital to flee.
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>>545771123
I remember for NZ Loyal everyone jumped ship last minute. It was a pretty big party in the weeks before the election.

No matter what happens I'd like Opportunity to either get 4.9 or 5.1% so the people either for/against that miss out get extra butthurt
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>>545771139
You're speaking nothing but facts mate. Honestly I think politicians should be banned from property investing all together. We don't allow professional athletes to bet on their own games, why should we let politicians who make the laws have a direct financial stake in keeping property prices high?

Yeah, the Greens absolutely aren't perfect, but they still have people who genuinely believe in challenging the status quo and the power of billionaires and lobbyists, which Labor has long since abandoned.
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im just weird
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test
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>>545771219
they'll kick the crisis of pensions not being able to be paid down the road again
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>>545771316
>world's first anarcho-centrist.
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Party vote Gangs. leshgo.
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>>545771267
Greens are the only party that is US skeptic, Israel skeptic, pro housing affordability, anti-government corruption. I don't care about whether they're annoying greenies or whatever, they're the only credible choice right now

The biggest insult to the public is Albanese created the National Anti Corruption Commission (NACC), then made sure it had no powers to prosecute corruption. He treats voters like idiots and is a disgrace to the country
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>>545770225
I would love a perfect 60 -60 seat split
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Do they have cameras in the booth? I'm thinking about voting with the lead of a bullet just to be the only person who has done it
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>>545771316
I can't even imagine what your answers looked like
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Who here Winston peters prostate orgasm voters
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Is Kiwiland really that bad that they have to fuck off to Australia?
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>>545771387
the problem with greens is their attitude towards immigration. A green party that wanted to stop indian migration and would not allow muslims to move here would fix most things
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>>545771425
actually nah fuck it I won't, no need to invite a judge to fuck me over
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Kiwibros, you gonna vote for this sheila?

>>545771387
Absolutely agree. Rudd was the last Labor PM with the courage to actually fight the establishment and his own party got rid of him on behalf of the US.
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>>545771473
I think a lot of it is our dollar is lower, shit looks cheaper there but if you convert it then it's basically worse in Australia.

Pay is better in Australia but it's actually getting decent here for anyone useful because all the good workers are going to Australia so the people left can charge themselves out higher
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>>545771522
The mouth tattoo is hot
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>>545771481
yes agreed, hopefully people don't fall for ONP promising a very wishy washy migration target reduction. They make contradictory statements all the time about what their actual number is

Greens policy on construction is mass government building of houses and destruction of property investment entirely, so it's possible migration matters less when there's abundant housing
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>>545771481
Unfortunately we've structured our economy in a way that it needs infinite growth or it collapses. As out own birthrate declines, we bring in people to continue growing the workforce. It's absolutely unsustainable, but it seems no one has an alternative.
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>>545771522
would rather Māori run things than pro israel pro USA real estate mogul ghouls. The treaty is between pakeha and Māori, everyone else can fuck off.
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>>545771481
Both sides want mass immigration but maybe the left is more incompetent at it so it would be a wiser choice kek
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>>545771607
the funny part (not really) is that indians in NZ have a LOWER BIRTH RATE than white kiwis. so we're importing eunuchs who bring over their grandparents to strain the system
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>>545771607
>As out own birthrate declines
Our birthrate is declining in no small part because they've made it impossible for young families to afford housing. Having a child is now an act of economic self-harm because of how expensive everything is. And our leaders are too stupid or too corrupt to solve it
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>>545771473
you can earn a lot more there with the same skills/education.
we are just a small exporting nation. we have to keep our dollar low for this reason and as much as everyone blames the government for everything bad that happens, we are at the behest of global finance conditions
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>>545771655
That's ironic lol
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>>545771655
it's fucking insane that once a couple are in the family is allowed to come over as well and leech our already fucked public healthcare system.
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>>545771607
make things more affordable and people will have kids. No need to import people to encourage population, there are other ways
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>>545771481
Greens have an open border policy. They are hard left and anti white. Labour would do better if they cut ties and returned to their working class roots
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>>545771717
same case in aus btw
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>>545770999
Because if uni gets to expensive they’re gonna learn whatever bullshit it is you do and be better at it cause you’re retarded and you’ll be fucked
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>>545771655
That data is probably skewed because half of the jeets here only arrived after 2022 and are busy making money to get property before they have kids. Jeets are buying houses at high rates, low deposit loans and a willingness to work long hours
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>>545771696
Yeah housing prices are INSANE. The Housing Australia Future Fund is an embarrassment that literally just puts more money in the pocket of private developers. All we'd have to make things better is scrap negative gearing and reduce the capital gains tax discount as well as direct a large investment into public housing. Adam Bandt and Max Chandler-Mather tried to push this but they both lost their seats last year, so now there's really no one left to challenge the government.
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>>545771817
Their policy is not open borders, this is ridiculous hyperbole. And Labor has no ability to cut ties, they are nowhere near popular enough on their own and would have no votes to pass anything
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>>545771698
I feel like we'd be in a similar position if it were not for our mining and resource extraction industry
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>>545771817
Anti man too
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>>545771830
>That data is probably skewed because half of the jeets here only arrived after 2022 and are busy making money to get property before they have kids.
it's anecdotal but when I see jeets out with their kids it's often just the one. the fact its' the same in aus makes me think something makes them stop popping out jeetlings
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>>545771834
>Max Chandler-Mather tried to push this but they both lost their seats last year
Labor made a point of scalping him to try to intimidate the Greens into compliance, showing what happens when you cross Labor. Albanese's Labor is quasi-mafia
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>>545770225

Anyone that will actually do something about the Indian Hindu rape rat vermin problem. I will vote for anyone, right or left, that will acknowledge the problem and let loose the dogs of war to do what must be done against these inbred sister fucking cockroaches.
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I actually have thought about moving to NZ for work, Dunedin seems lovely. But it appears wages really are that shit.
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>>545771827
Uni is obsolete now that we have chat gpt
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>>545771939
NZD is in the bin right now, not a good time to live in NZ financially despite it being perhaps the most beautiful country on the planet
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>>545771955
retard
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>>545771867
ahh my bad, their policy is to have a border but just let anyone brown through
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>>545771939
Dunedin is cool but has a lot of shit people too. Depends on your industry we have good stuff here like the space industry and good farming stuff. If you're just an office worker it will be hard
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>>545771817
Whatever way you look at it Greens policies of taxing the ultra rich and using that money to fund public healthcare, housing, and education are more pro worker than whatever policies Labour have. Also Labour is just as pro immigration so it wouldn't even make a difference.
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>>545772006
very funny faggot
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>>545772018
Yeah my background is in agriculture so I thought it would be a decent fit.
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>>545771939
oh yeah also a massive data center being built near invercargill, that's where I live. They're paying about 150k for NZ tradies that's absolutely top dollar in this country for a tradie. Might have to love in a caravan though, the data center is bringing down 400 caravans
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NZ First are ethnonationalists for Maori and Pakeha only yeah?
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>>545771881
most of nzs resources are under mountains and forests so getting resource consent is unlikely. much of your reources lie under desert type environment so its easier to extract
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>>545772021
I agree with taxing the rich, because I'm not rich myself. But....it doesn't work. These people and their money is not stupid. They take it elsewhere, they have options that we don't.
You can't tax a country into prosperity
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>>545772063
Down to Southland or up to Canterbury would have a lot more opportunities for you. Depends on how many people you want to live around and what hobbies you have. Good hunting and fishing in certain parts of nz
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>>545772161
You can actually, Scandinavia has the highest HDI on the planet and some of the highest tax rates. Rich people always threaten to leave but never do. See California's latest billionaire tax as an example, it didn't get passed, but most of the billionaires just accepted it eventually
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>>545770601
Lolwat

Your results are almost identical to mine
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>>545772123
Winnie is tough on a lot of the Maori stuff.
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>>545771407
That would work out well because parties would have to all get a consensus on issues
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>>545770798
I like the Greens tax policies plus the state owned supermarket. But I find them as people insufferable, plus all the gay woke cringe.
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>>545772161
Taxing the rich is the moderate solution. The radical solution is to just nationalize the corporations that provide essential services. If they try to bankrupt out country by moving their operations overseas, we may be forced to take drastic measures.
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>>545772257
common sense bruv, you have it
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>>545772161
Yeah but if they're landlords, taking their money elsewhere means selling their houses and lowering the housing cost for everyone
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>>545772306
He's a crypto murry
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>>545772354
Based and true.
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Going to nzfirst-act-national coalition again
Boomers ate allergic to capital gains taxes

500k Indians will all vote national for their effort to bring in more Indians.
Chris Hipkins looks like a fucking dork and that alone kills people's motivation to vote for labour.

Only millenial redditors will vote TOP and all their votes will be wasted
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>>545770225.

Right wing coalition, if you dont win then I will not give you a chance ever again.
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>>545772217
>high trust monoethnic white societies do a thing
>that means it'll totally work in our izzat-coded brown scamhive
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>>545772503
I saw some chart the other day about "most high trust nations" or something and NZ was like #5. boy did i laugh
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>>545772350
>plus all the gay woke cringe.
Sometimes we need to work with people who annoy us in order to achieve a greater good.
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>>545772479
The only decent party in the coalition is New Zealand First. National are just greedy corporate cringelords and ACT are lolberts who would happily sell everything the state owns to the private sector.

ACT are only decent on gun laws, I'll give them that.
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>>545772566
Jesus Christ. half the population of this country couldn't even find it on a map
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>>545772503
imagine thinking Scandinavia is still monoethnic lmao
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>>545772635
ACT also wants to stop taxing crypto gains for small amounts/transactions, which would be fucking cool
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>>545772403
Indians still heavily vote labor i think. National's desperate pivot might not break this trend.

The fact is the average indian isn't yet asset rich and has a tremendous amount to gain from left wing redistribution policies and a collapsing housing market. They know they're cognitively smarter than polynesians and can leverage claims of racism against whites.

On the mainstream news every indian I've seen has been screaming for more government spending and agitating for labor.
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>>545771202
Homosexual jewish cum-guzzler (current leader of (auz/nz). I stand with current leader.
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>nobody ITT even mentions national because they're so utterly bland
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>>545772585
I can agree with that
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>>545772717
>Indians still heavily vote labor i think
think you're wrong there mate
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>>545771481
Aussie from aus in NZ here it's true
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>>545770225
they'll probably swing right since most of their identity is trying not to be like Americans
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>>545772717
Our local National candidate is a jeet and the jeets in town all had his billboard on their fences. Mind you, one of the jeets I work with asked me the other day: "Who you going to vote for bro? National or Labour?"
I told him I vote for New Zealand First and he says "I vote for Labour last time and they lose"
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>>545772688
Outside of the main centers it pretty much is.
Comparing them to NZ is retarded. We have rolls royce welfare on a toyota corolla budget.
We have an embedded generational welfare culture and an endless maori grievance gravy train
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>>545772503
It's funny. In the 90s in greece and italy, leftists were all like "be like the nordic countries. Sweden shows it works" and shut down all criticism of reckless spending with this point.

Then after the greek izzat low trust meant the generous welfare system got fleeced. Leftists were like "nah uh, not true nordic model, it's the legacy of franco and mussolini and fascism o algo".

50% of all think tank research for greentards is just lazily comparing Sweden to somewhere else. It must be easy being a social democrat.
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>>545772758
100%. Indians are the most self centered capitalistic 'I'm gunna make it rich' so I have to vote like a rich person mother fuckers.
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>>545772826
I think you've gotten New Zealand confused with Canada. You're an American though so I forgive you, your people aren't exactly known for their proficiency in geography.
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>>545772826
Doubtful. NZ is full of Maoris and parasitic migrants addicted to socialism.
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>>545772869
leftists are still dishonesty trying to show the world a picture of scandinavia today, while selling them the statistics of scandinavia from thirty years ago
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>>545772869
Scandinavia isn't perfect, they haven't gone far enough in my opinion. But they're doing a lot better than we are. Norway actually taxes their mining companies and because of that they have the world's largest sovereign wealth fund. We could do the same in Australia but our politicians are pussies.
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>>545772867
>>545772758
An indian told me 4 years ago his community mostly voted labor. You always see a few behind chippie when he's out and about.

You have to remember Luxon is asskissing Modi and the hindutva chuds. The sikhs and muslim south asians despise them.
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>>545770225
Old zealand win
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>>545772904
If New Zealand sank into the ocean it would probably take 2 or 3 months before anyone even realized it was gone
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>>545771898
it's the same here in america. indian fertility rates aren't high at all. theyre like ~1.4 here in the US, which is below White American. We see from countries like Singapore and Malaysia that in a developed settings their tfr goes through the floor. In both Singapore and Malaysia it's like 0.9
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Middle-aged bald guys are always the most trust-worthy people to carry the electorate.
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>>545773081
*in a developed country
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>>545773049
Indian community groups will vote for anyone who won't interfere with immigration because they're all running visa scams back home
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>>545773074
I kind of like it that way. We always get left off world maps which is hilarious. It feels like we watch the rest of the world from afar.
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Majority of immigrants I've spoken to said they want migration to be much lower though
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>>545773115
>back home
Which lead to here.
>https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/361011515/thames-four-square-and-owner-fined-over-120000-illegal-migrant-worker-premiums

No wonder the cunts have money when they can charge another jeet 60k to ""sponsor"" him
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I went in with no idea still, saw the animal party, thought of all the animals out there who need a hand and voted for them, I couldn't not do it lads
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>>545773204
where's the maori version? i can't read colonizer gibberish
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>>545773181
They don't want the competition
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what the fuck is even going on in nz? is it like australia but somehow even gayer poorer and polynesian?
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>>545773200
then the media runs a big beat up about "kiwis' terrible treatment of immigrants". when 99% of the culprits are yesterday's immigrants running izzat scams on newcomers
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>>545773237
The fuck language do you think te pati Maori is?
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>>545773237
Not on the maori roll, maori party is in there though but they can't get in by voting for the party due to a weird quirk
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>>545773007
>We could do the same in Australia but our politicians are pussies.
They're corrupt, not afraid. They're bought by special interests. Same problem as the US, they betrayed the public for donations
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>>545773097
>I failed at being a teacher
>I failed at being at selling houses
>I failed in college
>I should become a politician
>What is all this money I've found
Time for people to expel all these billionaires buying up land and take control of your control again.
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>>545771620
So you want the party that doesnt believe in their people signing the treaty to govern by the treaty. That makes no sense.
Scrap the whole thing, declare proper independance from the crown and have an actual bill of rights that cant be suspended because some cunts caught the flu
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>>545773266
Yeah basically, we have better white stock though
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>>545773204
animal justice party is a strict law and order party who's gimmick is that every punishment is meted out by an animal
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>>545773295
The AEWV visas are hilarious if you go look at the sponsored jobs. One of the top skilled jobs we need apparently is FAST FOOD COOK
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whoever takes a picture of their ballot with 20 massive swastikas on it gets 20 (You) s
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>>545772999
They used to do the same with canada with race, as the ideal multiracial success story. Now leafs are regarded as the most hateful whites around kek and are despised by thirdies more than America.
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I'd love a hoon on Luxon's wife though.
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>>545773237
you get the option of being enrolled as a maori, then you'll get a special ballot and options to vote on special entrenched maori seats
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>>545770225.

The Right wins, and the new centrist party, and the left wing coalition will be murdered electorally, now stop asking this question ever again.
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>>545773266
We have a center right government, Australia has a center left government. Both of which are left wing compared to your government.

We're both facing problems with immigration getting out of hand, though here in New Zealand it's not as bad. Indian immigration is starting to get out of hand yet all our politicians are arguing over bullshit like the treaty of waitangi which is some 160 year old document which should have no real effect on our lives but yet it dominates political discourse.
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>>545773433
>Luxon's wife
Looks like a tranny
Now even a bbw
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>>545773204
bless you mate
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>>545770225
>Hey @grok, who is the PM of New Zealand?
>Grok: beats me, I don't care and have zero interest in what happens in NZ
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>>545773097
Also a manlet, the 2 prime minister candidates are markets can you believe this shit
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>>545773387
Would mean more if you lot didn't all move here.
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>>545773335
>control
>country
It's criminal how much of fake finance is destroying small countries and lush countrysides right now and people keep voting left and right.
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Beat the jeets

Breed all Asian girls

The white man marches on!
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>>545773307
>te pati maori

sounds like some nigger creole language. fake ass language doesnt even have a word for "the" kek.
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>>545773470
Yeah cuxon is a rich man he can at least get a young thicc trannywife, there's some fucking good trannies out there these days
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>>545773470
i like fitness trophy wives what can I say
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Reminder that not a single white person posts with the yank flag.
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>>545773311
your sentence broke my miggermutt brain. are you speaking some islander creole or is it me?
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>>545773572
They had around 100 words in their vocab before being colonized, which is why a lot of maori words are like english words with down syndrome
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>>545773572
a maori speaker from twenty years ago wouldn't understand a single word of modern maori. white women have worked overtime to invent a new language from scratch and bored bureaucrats play a court game where they memorize it and flex on others with less free time to learn it
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>>545770225
No shits given. NZ is a shit hole full of wokism.
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>>545773447
how is it "not as bad" if auckland is like 20% white
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>>545773644
What about the Canadian flag? I'd die for you.
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>>545773717
he's coping. australia is bad but nowhere near as bad a situation as here
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>>545773704
your "language" is gay
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>>545773717
Sorry I don't live in Auckland
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>>545773727
Canadians are Aryan beasts
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>>545770225
Didn't vote. I feel fucking wonderful knowing that I can blame all of you for making things even worse.
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>>545770225
what are the options?
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>le 41% face throwing stones in glass houses
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>>545773778
I think we can all agree that it's only going to get worse no matter which shit show gets into power
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>>545773704
my neighbours are porch geese. always bbq'ing and it fucking wreaks. I think I'd rather smell shit from an Indian mans ass
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>>545773789
Our main "center-right" political party, which is most likely to win, is to the left of the Democrats.
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>>545773789
take the little survey and see
whichparty.nz
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>>545773717
>if auckland is like 20% white
It isn't though. It's only about 50% but it's not 20%.
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>>545773747
>>545773824
Still better than living in woke island. You guys suck. Worse than Canadians.
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>>545773572
It used to be called the maori party because only a tiny % of maoris spoke maori. Now a lot have learned and pretend they've always known it.

It was always pretty funny because "maori" always kind of meant half assed and shitty, like doing a maori job at something and that was the maori party
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>>545773789
basically it's a centre left alliance Vs a centre right alliance, but the main left and right parties are so utterly milquetoast as to make no difference. so it's basically a globohomo death march but we get to choose the colour of the decorations
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Why is there no party for the apathetic voter?
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>>545773882
what percentage are of reproducing age? that's literally all that matters. one million withering old boomers mean nothing for the future
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>>545773882
That's skewed because it used to be like 90% white and it's all the oldies hanging on. Go for a walk in Auckland and it's worse than any other major city on earth
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>>545773985
>(YOU)
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>>545773985
Aka someone who is able to look at all sides and make a sensible decision
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>jewish AI noticed the thread
>starts flooding it with inanity
I wish you all well in NZ well always. Your thread is done now. Sorry if I made it happen. National Social is the cure that ails us in the West. The jewish globalists will keep using all the third-worlders against us until we're dead.
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>>545774004
>like 90% white and it's all the oldies hanging on
Oh please, we both know the boomers move to Tauranga instead of living in the mess they made.
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>>545774001
>>545774004
I've been shouting this from the rooftops for a while to people on this board but NZ is THE most fucked nation demographically. Even burgers have a higher % of white births than us and Europe is practically an ethnostate
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what is nz economy even? immigration scams, sheep and honey?
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>>545774004
according to wikipedia
>In the 2023 census, where people could identify as more than one ethnicity, the results were 44.0% European (Pākehā); 12.2% Māori; 18.7% Pasifika; 34.9% Asian; 2.9% Middle Eastern, Latin American and African New Zealanders (MELAA); and 1.7% other, which includes people giving their ethnicity as "New Zealander". English was spoken by 91.5%, Māori language by 2.7%, Samoan by 5.3% and other languages by 32.0%. No language could be spoken by 2.4% (e.g. too young to talk). New Zealand Sign Language was known by 0.4%. The percentage of people born overseas was 44.9%, compared with 28.8% nationally.[7]
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Ive got tribal land i can live on if i want to but i dislike the maori side of my family and most maoris in general
worth or stay here?
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>>545774091
Immigration scams, DAIRY and honey.

We're advancing.
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>>545774063
They've fucked Tauranga now it's too expensive. Worked for a lady who lived there but moved to invercargill a few years back because it's more affordable. She was a major bitch and retarded
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>>545773332
True, but we can't blame the politicians without also remembering the people that voted for them. The politicians are corrupt, but the public are the ones who go to the voting booth every three years and keep putting those corrupt politicians back in power.

773204
honestly, based

>>545773704
Your country hasn't been relevant since the 1600's. Also you speek Brazilian.
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>>545774091
Farming, agriculture, tourism, and an overinflated housing market.

Oh, and immigration scams
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imagine having a massive country (aus + nz) at the end of the world with only 20 million whites and abundant resources and deciding to fly in the third world to ruin it
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>>545774091
We are the largest dairy company in the southern hemisphere. Our economy is exporting high end meat and dairy and produce. Second is tourism
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>>545774107
you probably won't get a foot on that land. maori land is so diluted through generations now and basically everyone in the tribe gets a claim. so only the most aggressive assholes can shout and scream and bully everyone else off the land
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>>545774141
Is your country relevant? Only when some insane new wokism is invented?
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my personal theory as to why our demographics got so bad so fast is that Australia has been siphoning basically all our young productive white people.
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>>545774194
we also have the most expensive milk and meat in the southern hemisphere
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>>545774194
Yeah and we have some pretty decent niche shit like aerospace, healthcare, gaming and movies etc
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>>545774194
>Our economy is exporting high end meat
I love how fucked over we get on meat and dairy because all the good stuff gets sent overseas.
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>>545774253
No shit, Muldoon was retarded to pretend it was a non issue.
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>>545774180
The boomers wanted a tax base to fund them money they don't need, and to pump their house prices before they shuffle off
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>>545774277
Even for New Zealanders. We only consume about 5-10% of the meat and dairy we produce yet we have to pay international market rates for it. A fucking outrage.
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>>545774253
Don't mind if I do
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>>545774290
>>545774337
Australia will soon restrict it because of all the jeets using it as a backdoor to australia but they must be laughing at how foolish we are to let all our new doctors and basically anyone skilled go there and they don't have to pay a cent to tain them
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>>545774280
Used to be shit hot at boat building but rocketlab has hoovered up most of the industry now. They even bought Core Builders Composites from Larry Ellison to build in carbon.
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>>545774253
It's why there's no backlash to the great replacement either. Everyone ambitious is basically gone and australia is a safety release valve on that pressure.
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>>545774290
Muldoon had a massive inferiority complex
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>>545773863
had to search up some things but the results say im new zealand first
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>>545774277
Yeah they made a rule that they sell to NZ consumers at the international price (aka top dollar) and then say they'd like to sell it cheaper but it's the rules
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>>545774357
nz should be a state of australia. auckland is closer to sydney and melbourne than perth is
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>>545774389
incidentally not a single political party interested in addressing it
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>>545774387
it's the sensible choice, that's who got my vote
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>>545774357
There really isn't a comparable situation to what's happened with us - we're Australias Mexico/Germany to Poles but instead of toilet cleaners our best and brightest leave us
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>>545774390
NZ improves in every facet, Australia gets Kiwi criminals, but a very good rugby union team.
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>>545774351
Yeah that's true, our carbon fiber industry is world class for some reason. Used for space and drones. Apparently we are making drones including sea drones, and they're the best in the world, they're only really prototypes at the moment but nobody else not China or USA or Russia can match them because we have the best carbon fiber.

I actually hate rocket lab because they're into military contracts e.g. making hypersonic missiles for USA to bomb kids with
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>>545774467
What do you mean a very good rugby team
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>>545774390
we need to set up a battery of winches and snap ourselves onto the gold coast. we could fit nicely
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>>545774499
All blacks
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>>545774443
yeah, from the results and what ive skimmed on its wikipedia page i concur. it being populist is somewhat concerning though
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>>545774504
The Goldie is CRYING out for scaffolders and bouncerd
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>>545774376
>>545774290
Muldoon had his flaws but he was the last great New Zealand Prime Minister. He was pretty based.

After him, our society and economy got globohomo'd by Lange and Douglas and it's never been the same after that.
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>>545774542
He was the beginning of the end in my opinion.
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>>545774518
NZ first says all the right things then gets in and does none of them. It's basically a symbolic protest vote these days
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>>545774542
Neoliberalism was a cunt aye
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>>545774091
Powdered milk for the Chinese market
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>Jacinda Arden works in Sydney
>Luxon's son lives in Melbourne

The rot is deep
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im looking at google street view lower hutt and wellington and it looks like all white people, including many young. even the school im looking at is all white kids. strange
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>>545774642
Why are you looking at children
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>>545770225
What does it matter you're never getting you're guns back and your country will stay globohomo
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>>545774642
Take a look around Papatoetoe's shopping centre instead
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>>545774518
NZF is often the kingmaker in a coalition. I don't know if I'd describe Winston as a populist but he can afford to have some unrealistic/populsit policies that he'll never have to back up. He does fight hard for kiwi's and despises woke/maori shit (he is part maori himself)
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>>545774666
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>>545774666
i spawned down next to a school. and there is a milf here with tight pants but since ur so accusatory i wont share...
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I reckon it's a matter of time until we have a school shooting here. Some chink got caught planning one with a shotgun a month or two back but there's enough guns and angry kids. I remember an anon on here warning about the exact MSSA loophole years before the chch shooting
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>>545774280
>gaming
Abiotic Factor (Half Life/SCP game with survival elements) is a kiwi game and it's great
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NZ is our best friend <3
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>>545774709
He despises lazy Maori and Maori who blame the white man for everything.
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>>545774709
>He does fight hard for kiwi's
Just won't hang up a coalition deal for is.
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>>545774728
>i wont share...
You know you still never clarified if you mean the MILF or the kids.....
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>>545773074
Yanks always say this like it’s an insult. The worlds fucked, I’d be glad if nobody knew we existed
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it's fucking insane how the western world would be a utopia if only it was all white. not even like being dramatic
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>>545774732
We just had our first mass shooting since Port Arthur here so wait another 23 years
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>>545774686
I don't think anyone actually handed in their guns with that buyback
>No registry in NZ so there's no record of who has what
>Strong hunting culture
>Silencers are available over the counter
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>>545774804
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Auckland_shooting

We had a Murray shoot up his workplace after getting fired but it got memoryholed
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Hipkins just promised a free poly or jeet missus to every single pakeha man
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>>545774815
My dad did, but only because they paid over $150 per en bloc clip, and he had a lot.
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>>545774873
indian women have far more attractive women than polynesian. especially in the west
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>>545774873
My local MP is a jeeta (sri lankan) married to a white man and I've been seeing more and more WMIF couples. I shudder to think of the mutts that may be produced
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>>545774512
I thought you meant the Aussies and that made no sense
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>>545774830
wtf I never even heard about this. Damn right it was memoryholed.
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>>545774923
Both Indian and Polynesian women look like absolute shit once they hit 30
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>>545774830
He wasn't fired, he was a shit employee who was working as part of a parole deal and getting told to sack up and work made him mad.
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>>545774954
Sri Lankan is super low caste so it won't even be Brahmin tier with 50% white dna
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>>545774954
Weirdly the mutts look middle eastern.
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>>545773717
Auckland is like its own country. It’s rather self contained at least.
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>>545774978
We had a stabbing by a jeet Muslim at my local supermarket that has been super memory holed. I mean nobody was killed but still whenever terrorism is brought up people say that we've never had a Muslim terror attack
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>>545774815
Tons did because the government paid top dollar for them. My mate put his brand new unfired armalite M15 through the shredder and got paid more than he bought it for.
You also need to show your FAL when buying ammo and police monitor what you're buying now. If you're buying ammo for guns you don't officially own you're gonna get "looked into"
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>>545775012
all castes are dalit in NZ, the more you know...
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Where's the best stream at bros? Is Mike Hosking doing one?
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>>545775052
Lynn mall wasn't it? Dude got chokeholded by some 5 foot nothing English guy.
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>>545774978
it got about 1-2 days of press coverage and then not reported on at all.
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>>545775012
sri lankans are heaps better than filthy pajeets. caste means nothing to anyone but pajeets, to everyone else its all different shades of poo
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>>545770225
I voted for NZ Loyal because I will never vote a party that forced covid policies on the country. And NZ First has run it’s course. New Conservative would have been good but I will not vote for a woman. I did not vote for a local candidate because I do not support any of the parties and the independant literally said don’t vote for me.
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>>545775057
Oh ok, I wasn't aware of that new monitoring
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>>545775095
I will watch tv1 for Tova. The ACC are commentating the election as well as the criccy after 7 though.
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>>545775099
He was being followed around by 2 undercover officers because they thought at any moment he could do an attack and yup, he got out a knife at countdown and started stabbing people. The muslim council since have tried to shift blame and say that it was partially the polices fault for having him arrested initially and making him more radical lol
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>>545775037
India itself was born from racemixing aryans. It was used by 19th century and early 20th century racialists as to what would happen if they fucked up.

A south indian and a white literally produces a high caste north indian in looks. It's weird but expected.
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>>545774097
Samoan speakers are double the Maori speakers? And yet your government forces everyone to listen to Maori?
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>>545774327
Same has happened to Argentina. Their beef prices have risen close to 500% since 2023.
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>>545775219
Well it’s a movement to revitalise the language. Te Reo was repressed and near extinct. I think it’s cool to keep it alive even if just for historical purposes, it’s part of our country and history
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>>545775219
to be fair they don't make us listen, they just pay themselves to talk, doesn't matter if there's an audience

15 MINUTES TIL PRELIMINARY RESULTS GOYIM
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>>545775146
They even put cameras on the shooting range I go to. We used to have a lot of fun there. I'd seen an Chinese dude with a fucking P90
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>>545775192
>He was being followed around by 2 undercover officers
Referring to https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/emergencies_local/451460/man-who-tackled-terrorist-identified-as-eighth-victim-of-attack

Compare the media coverage to the bondi beach guy.
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>>545770225
>Who do you want to win?
Whoever it takes to destroy the jews utterly and to the last.
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>>545775321
C Cat licenses are retarded because not only are pistols sometimes C but so are deactivated guns for whatever reason
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>>545773007
Yeah they have the enormous oil wealth, they decided it's not just their own oil but it's for future generations. You'd never get another country doing that, it's because they're an ethnostate
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My predictions:

>Opportunity get over 5%
>Neither right bloc or left bloc have enough seats to form a government
>"centrist" party Opportunity is needed by either side to form a government
>Luxon's words about not working with Opportunity come back to bite him in the ass
>Opportunity decide they will talk with him about forming a government anyway
>We're now in the same post-2017 election situation where both National and Labour needed New Zealand First to form a government but this time it's Opportunity
>Luxon blows it because he's a massive retard, Labour have nothing to lose so they give Opportunity more
>We get a Labour-Green-Opp-Maori coalition
>Luxon gets rolled as leader of National

or..

>Opportunity fails to get to 5%
>Current coalition carries on but with a weaker National and a stronger New Zealand First and ACT
>Luxon gets rolled as leader of National
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>>545771316
Neutral-sama
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>>545775291
australia/nz and argentina/uruguay should be some of the most prosperous places in the world. meat demand in the world will only grow but with limited land. so who can feed these people with vast land yet small populations will make a lot of money
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>>545773007
australia is a generational screwup
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>>545775176
Tova is hot as fuck, not gona lie
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>>545775391
whoever wins I bet neither hipkins nor luxon survive the next six months. loser resigns, winner gets knifed
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>>545775424
Unironically. We had an entire continent to ourselves, a literal garden of Eden with enough natural wealth to build a paradise on Earth, yet we gave it all up so that oil tycoons could get richer.
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>>545775057
gun owners are generally pretty naive people, they thought they were getting a good deal when the government paid over market rates.

Most gun owners anyway, last weekend I met one of those boomers who got radicalized during covid, pretty based and a nice guy but even I didn't feel great about him owning shitloads of guns and thermal gear kek, if he went Desi then they'd have a hell of a time getting him out of the bush, he has like 10 or more sets of batteries for his thermal drone which makes me think he might think he needs to spend a long time away from civilization
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>>545775391
based-knower. Nicola Willis PM and Winnie P deputy or is it Rimmer's turn?
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>>545775424
lol
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>>545775431
You know what Michael Laws said about that opportunity party lady? If he said it about Tova I think it wouldn't be a scandal, even feminists would agree
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>>545775480
Win or lose, both get rolled.
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>>545775391
Haven't seen that pepe in a long time, one of the best
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>>545774801
It was until the late 1800-1990#
Then the mud floods and mass immigration for over 100+ years whiped out tataria
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>>545775482
it honestly pisses me off so i try not to think abt it. like u cant make this shit up. u had 20 million white people with their own continent packed to the brim with natural prosperity.
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STREAM WHERE?
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>>545775518
There are heaps of guys around here like that. I doubt you need to fear them. Pretty normal kiwis
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>>545775560
I drew it myself :-)
I modeled it after myself!
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>>545770225
We've all played Minecraft.
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>>545775521
>
Nigger
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>>545775602
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_96Mj95Djw

Based Hosking's stream is up in 5 minutes
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>>545775609
looking good m8
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New thread:
>>545775626

>>545775626

>>545775626
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>>545775602
stuff is pretty gay but it's a stream. I think the others are on tv1 and 2
https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360847406/stuff-live-stream-official
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>>545775627
Him or her?
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>>545775547
If chippy wins he's not getting rolled. Cuxon is a different story, Erica Stanford and Chris Bishop fucking hate him and that's why they're not involved
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>>545773007
Australia's sovereign wealth fund is 10 times smaller than Norway's. It's never been able to mature because it's been deemed insufficient for its stated role (funding public service pensions).
You think it's because we don't have enough tax? It's not. In the last 20 years the GDP has gone up by 50-60%... And the government put on 50-60% more public servants. Most recently they put through legislation so that the fund had to invest in projects that the government was ideologically invested in.
You can go back in a time machine to the 90s and change the tax situation all you like, the numbers today would have just inflated to compensate, all the tax you want - public service employment and immigration would reach infinity before the Federal Government had the maturity to restrain it's spending within its means.
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What the heckers! I don't even know a national voter, everyone on reddit said they were going to vote green
This is bullshit
I am trans btw



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