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Gets it settled within 24 hours.

It has been 2 years, why is it not settled?

He also said that he will end foreign wars. Why is the Iran war still ongoing? Trump says, if he has not started the Iran war, right now as of Nov 2026, there would be no Israel right now...

He said he ended like 10 wars, which freakign wars did he settle???? The war on corruption in DC?
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would telliing the truth work?
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>>545779076
Lies by definiton dont work out.
Lies got him in to office and he runs it like shit.
What was the point in getting in to office when he clearly never knew about what he was talking about.
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>>545779339
he has rich donors to help are you fucking retarded?
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>>545779076
>would telliing the truth work?
Indeed it would. At least it would be what I expect from a top politician.

Instead of starting the Iran war, Trump could have actually have a strategy to end the Ukraine-Russia war. And there were tons of way to do so, mostly including money and deals.

But Trump chose to not bother and rather stage a photo-op with Putin in Alaska, instead of insisting on a 3-party summit and telling everyone the US is going to get significant economic uplifts and proposing a landswap deal in Ukraine-Russia with the right for residents of the effected areas having dual citizenship and border crossings with a promise of having referendums on independence or joining one or the other side in 2040.
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nuTrump became a politician, is constantly lying.
originalTrump was a businessman who happened to get elected, and was based. i don't know how we got here or what happened to originalTrump :(
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>>545778317
He thought it was going to be like sorting out a business deal where everyone wins, but it turned out to be an intractable medieval Slavic national blood and soil vs. imperial ideological Eurasian-futurist anti-globalist revitalization.
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>>545779728
originalTrump was overpromissing.

nuTrump (since 2017) has been lying. E.g. was trump responsible for the inflation caused during the 2020 gov response to Covid. Also, Trump closed the econoomy for no good reason during covid, as we all know and forced the vax on people.

Easy as that.
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>>545779339
He wasn't lying. He is just totally out of his depth in this situation in the Ukraine. He is a businessman. He thought he could just negotiate a contract like in business but then walked and found it was the sauna fight scene in Eastern Promises.
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>>545779625
what does war strategy have to do with election strategy?
youre on another planet how much have you smoked this morning?
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>>545779450
Sick pivot.
He is rich. You really think donors made a difference?
At some point throwing money at one thing is just wastefull. They never mattered.
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>>545780072
>what does war strategy have to do with election strategy?
Right now? A lot. The Ukraine war and Iran war were key reasons for Trump losing the midterms.
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>>545779978
>he just retarded
Got it.
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>>545778317
>It has been 2 years, why is it not settled?
because jews really really really really want there to be a forever war in that region
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>>545778317
>It has been 2 years, why is it not settled?
you have 200 minutes on your handy
why aren't you paying the fee 219 times?
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>>545780075
donors obviously do
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>>545780267
>you have 200 minutes on your handy
>why aren't you paying the fee 219 times?
what?
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>>545780361
>they do because they just do dur hur
Retard
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>>545779339
The point was to take over through violence and obstinacy, all while pretending to wash his hands of it. Trump is not a violent person, not really. He’s a dweeb, a dweeb who wants to be revered for having come up with the IDEA of unrestrained violence. He wants to be thought of more as an intellectual rather than as a strongman, when in point of fact he’s just a chump from Queens.
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>>545780111
is he still the president
what are we talking about here?
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>>545780405
>The point was to take over through violence and obstinacy
The guy who said the "sensles killing must stop" and "i have good relationship with Putin" is trying to apear as ruthless ender of war through violence?
Are we talking about the same person?
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>>545780451
>what are we talking about here?
A lame duck president cannot do anything. Trump had 2 years to end the Ukraine war and NOT START the Iran war.
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>>545778317
Ukraine is stronger than America. So is Russia.
US is irrelevant.
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>>545780862
i still do not understand trump is not ukranian russian iranian or israeli
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>>545781292
>i still do not understand trump is not ukranian russian iranian or israeli

America has the position of "world police" and Trump is the Chief of the World Police.

He promised hundreds of times to not start any new wars and end the Ukraine war within 24 hours.

He lied.
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>>545781372
>>545781288
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>>545778317
>Day 700 of 24 hour meeting to secure peace between Ukraine and Russia
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The real answer is that Trump doesn't want to end the war per se. He wants to end it in a way that Russia loses. He thought he could finesse Putin the way he finesses his gullible magatards. Given how much of a Westophile cuck Putin is, it wasn't a bad gamble that he'd fall for one of Trump's schemes.
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>>545781615
Ok shlomovich
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>>545781664
I'd post that too if I were mad but had no argument.
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>>545781737
Donald Jew Trump loves Putin Shelemova.
They are 2 freemason jews and best friends
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>>545781372
you're talking like a neocon
>world police
bless you anon when was the last time you called cops?
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>>545781853
Russiagate slop.
Trump has been trying to con Putin the entire time into agreeing to a ceasefire so NATO "peacekeepers" can enter Ukraine.
If he wanted to end the war regardless of consequences, he had the mandate in early 2025 to cut Ukraine loose completely. Musk could've ended Ukraine Starlink at any time.
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>>545781615
I think Trump underestimated how important the war is for Putin to stay in power and not be toppled in Russia.
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>>545778317
Give him the Nobel Prize, then he'll give you the peace. Not the other way around.
Art of the Deal.
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>>545782021
Shalom Chabad Shelemova
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>>545778317
Either Ukraine or EU doesn't want it to end. Trump didn't care about it, just wanted all militarily capacity to move to his real country - Israel.
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>>545782039
Putin is one of the worst wartime presidents Russia has ever had. I think he's even worse than Nicholas II. He just has no understanding whatsoever of escalation and deterrence psychology, and he keeps sending gas/oil to Europe. The irony is that if Zelensky were president of Russia, Russia would've won this war by 2024. Zelensky has the right mindset of a wartime president, but obviously Ukraine doesn't have Russia's military resources.
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>Trump promising anything
Lmao
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Fuck America
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why would they abandon the honeypot when all the laundering is funding to them now?
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>>545782254
>The irony is that if Zelensky were president of Russia, Russia would've won this war by 2024.
lol, delusional. I mean Zelensky got a short end of the stick having to fight a country with 4 times the population but Ukraine only survived because of draconian draft and complete financial support from the west. If not for the west, it would had been a 3 day smo.
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>>545780389
Cпaм-бoты пытaютcя взaимoдeйcтвoвaть
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>>545779978
>He wasn't lying, he was merely making up shit about situation he hasn't a clue about.
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>>545782355
This
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Real Americans hate America and want to carpet nuke it.
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America fell for a sleazy used cars con man. They're so dumb and fat. 65 MILLION mutts voted for orange pedo lol
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>>545782680
Russian shill is maaad.
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>>545782680
Death to America and americans
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Nuke the USA
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it turns out Trump is incapable of saying YOU'RE FIRED to a jew so he keeps sending all our money to Ukraine and keeps sending all our money to Israel and keeps saying we're winning so hard by letting jews plunder us
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>>545782842
Shut the fuck up stupid israeli faggot.
Trump is giving nothing to ukraine.
Americans are too pussy to fight a real war they just send everything to israel
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I hope gavin Newsom becomes the president and drafts all the americans and puts them all into the meatgrinder against Russia or China.

Just not iran cause fuck israel
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>>545778317
The goblin Zelensky does not want it to end. Hard for even trump to make a deal with a spiteful creature that wants to keep fighting.
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>>545778317
His mistake was making the promises to begin with. War is not decided by human bureaucrats, it's decided by the various external forces of the world as a whole.

His opposition vehemently denied that they would put boots on the ground in Iran. This is just more falsity. She said that they would stop the Iranians from acquiring nukes, which basically arrives at the same solution. War. They would have fought the same conflict, it would have been just as much of a struggle, and the normies would have blamed them for it and voted them out, being completely unwise to fundamental truths of the world. If there is a scarcity of resources, or a hostile entity, war starts itself. You don't get to choose. If the elected bureaucrat takes the stance of doing nothing, this is all a theatrical dance of self righteousness into death.

Trump did a great deal within the system itself, removing bullshit which was thrust upon the government by lobbying groups and ideological zealots being manipulated by rich people. This is stuff a political leader actually can do. This is stuff the democrats were enabling, and will certainly never do anything to clean up. All the woke shit putting tax money into people's self mutilations, and allowing perverted mentally ill people into the wrong bathroom. This is stuff an elected leader can actually do something about. Whether a war can be fought or not, is not up to anybody. It's up to everybody collectively, and everything present and going on in the world.

You have all been fooled into a state of discouragement and have allowed your pessimism to take things where they are now going. This internal flaw is something you can do something about to change things outside of you desu.

Please do better /pol/
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On another note, the Bhagavad Gita should be as compulsory as the bible. Everyone should literally be forced to read it. Things would go much smoother.
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>>545782399
It's not delusional. Zelensky has the right mindset for a war. Putin does not.
For one thing, if Zelensky were president of Russia, he wouldn't be kissing Trump's ass or giving gas/oil to countries that are funding and arming the enemy.
Putin's priorities are selling gas/oil first, leaving open a rapprochement with the Western "partners" second, and taking a few villages in Donbass third.
Zelensky's top priority is war victory. They are different caliber of men. Yes, Zelensky looks pathetic as president of Ukraine, but that's because his country is the underdog in this war. He has a psychology and intense focus that weak men like Putin will never have.
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>>545783529
what is the right mind? I don't understand what you mean. They are underdog and thats how they are viewed. They are way weaker. Russia supports itself with their own economy. Ukraine is supported by EU's economy. It's not the doing of Zelensky.
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>>545783309
>His mistake was making the promises to begin with.
he would have lost. you're never gonna make it here lying
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>>545783698
I'm saying that if Zelensky were president of Russia, he would've defeated Ukraine by 2024. Putin didn't defeat Ukraine by 2024 because Putin has the wrong mindset for a war.
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>>545783903
how, what is the argument for that? Zelensky's acting worked as much as it could because even before Zelensky, Ukraine was supported by every weatern country. I can't say that he is famous for any other leadership skills. If Zelensky was president of Russia, neither of Russia's allies would care if Putin was good at acting or not. As for the west, west doesn't even listen to Putin so acting wouldn't work.
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>>545783903
>russia want the anti russia population
you will never get it bro
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>>545784047
I mean no offense, mate, but I think there may be some ESL difficulties here in following hypotheticals/counterfactuals and the point being made.
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he settled it. it'll just take 2 more weeks
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>>545778317
>ends ukraine war in 24
Trump said he was being sarcastic when he said. Which, of course, is a roundabout way of admitting he lied
>iran war
Trump has argued that the iran war does not meet the legal definition of a war because there isn't enough fighting. He has never used the word war to describe the conflict. Which, or course, is complete jewish pilpul, no different from Putin's "special military operation"



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