In Dec 2021 Putin published draft treaties demanding a new European security order. Key demand (Article 4): NATO must not deploy "military forces and weaponry" in any of the 16 countries that joined after May 1997. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2026/11/06/putins-plan-for-europe-is-already-written/Moscow treats "indivisible security" and limits on NATO near its borders as core demands. Russia would likely freeze or end the Ukraine fighting and refrain from further escalation against the Baltics/Poland only if it obtains Ukrainian neutrality (no NATO path), recognition of territorial gains, and binding constraints on NATO deployments/infrastructure in the post-1997 members. Western/Kushner framing keeps NATO intact and rejects vetoes, so a deal hinges on whether reciprocal transparency/consultation measures can satisfy Moscow without formally rolling back the alliance.If the Russian demands wont be met, Ukraine will be fully destroyed and the drone/missile warfare would likely escalate on the Eastern NATO flank countries territories.
OK, let's do it then.I want total war with Russia, with nukes, everything.Let the best ones win.At least something would be happening
>>545786231Romania doesnt have nukes tho xD
russia isn’t entitled to any of this. they can demand all day but nobody cares what they want, actually everyone wants the exact opposite of what russia wants
Russia will never accomplish a single one of its goals while Cuck Putin is in charge. He's too busy sending oil and gas to NATO.
>>545786258We should buy some then.Though I think we might already have a few, they got moved from Turkey back when Erdogan was about to get couped. It was kept a secret.
To world peace, deals, secret missions and whatnot. :)
Another problem with Cuck Putin is that he places too much weight on unenforceable words because he's an autismo.
>>545786136He will never get any of those. The best deal he is ever going to get is to keep de facto control of the ukrainian land russia has taken while de jure it remains ukrainian
>>545786374>We should buy some then.>Though I think we might already have a fewnukes don't work like a grenade or a bomb, retardyou need an entire infrastructure to manage them, deploy, maintain, deliver. "buying" a nuke for a non-nuclear country is basically paying rent to a nuclear country that will do everything on your behalf. Kinda like a subscription model
>>545786374NATO nuclear sharing relies on strict dual-key control via US-held permissive action links (PALs). B61 gravity bombs are stored in WS3 vaults under exclusive US military custody. Host nation dual-capable aircraft are only delivery platforms. Without POTUS transmitting authorization codes to unlock the PALs, any attempt to bypass or hotwire the warhead triggers CDF permanently frying internal electronics and rendering the physics package inert. Operationally, these weapons face severe vulnerabilities against modern Russian AD. Dropping a B61-12 requires aircraft to penetrate layered A2/AD umbrellas. Even with the B61-12s glide tail-kit, its 15-mile range forces aircraft into lethal engagement zones, while host airbases remain vulnerable to pre-emptive long range Russian strikes. Furthermore, NATOs deployment of 100 European gravity bombs is completely dwarfed by Russias +2,000 non-strategic nuclear warheads across multi-domain ballistic, cruise, and naval assets.
>>545786136Little Russian maggot can go suck Lenins cock for all I care, he ain’t getting shit, most of Europe will gladly go out fighting at least it will solve the housing issue
>>545786136who is he to dictate what another country does or who/ what they host within their borders?
>>545786934>most of Europe will gladly go out fightingBolanda and Baltic tigers are not "most of Europe" tho, unless we also include verbal/diplomatic/material support as "fighting", or additional online NAFO brigades xD
>>545786973Putin believes in might makes right. Unfortunately for Putin, he has demonstrated that russia is unable to take ukraine, so russia doesn't seem all that mighty right now
>>545787002People are getting fed up with Putin and Russia threatening and demanding, they are in no position to do so.Honestly I dare them to try anything it will be nice calling their bluff. European part of NATO would be in Moscow by noon Russians are not a warrior nation and they lost heir manpower advantage a long time ago
>>545787124Yeah, i am sure that Eurofaggots would be very angry, they would surely put new non-working sanctions on Russia, and NAFO brigades would get additional funds from Pentagon but the fighting would be done mostly by Polacks, in the end xD
>>545786136My kids demand to the last slavnigger
>>545786136Europe must recognize Russia as the natural hegemon of the continent. All this needless death has to be stopped, warmongering europeans needs to be toppled, NATO withdraws to the Elbe River and then there can be PEACE.
>>545787856>NATO withdraws to the Elbe RiverNATO can exist, only the way it functions on territories of new post-1997 members would be modified to secure Russian interests. For Germany and entire Western Europe nothing would really change xD
>>545788129i think its so cute that putin thinks he can dictate these things to a much stronger alliance xD
>>545788213The slavnigger mind has no boundaries
Russians has always been dog shit.Everything about their existence, culture, language, people, what they have to offer, everything has been trash from day 1.Russia has a shit economy. Germany, France and UK, all three has bigger economies alone, and a fraction of Russias population.This whole welfare degenerate idea that "Russia is the big and mighty this and that" is just laughable. Its just a massive landmass of piss and shit. Its filled with vodka people in a Lada Federation where 99% of its landmass is not even worth living.What should have been done is sending a bio weapon inside there with a virus that spreads like the plague and kills everyone living there. Close every border, every flight every possibility of them to escape, and have other countries and populations move there and extract whatever resources they have. Carve it up into pieces and let Russia just be a name in the history books. Its worthless at the end of the day and that is also the reason for every single anomaly who had some money there, fleeing to other countries in Europe and the US. Being Russian is not something to be proud of. Not now, not before and in the future.
>>545788213>much stronger allianceThe strongest unofficial member of this alliance is Ukraine whose days are counted. So called "Eastern NATO flank" is a piece of cake compared to fanatical banderists fed on emptied NATO stockpiles and +1 trillion dollar worth military support.
Get the US out of NATO. let the Europoors defend themselves.
>>545786136>Please disarm yourselves so I can attack you nextGee, I wonder if the other side will agree to this
>>545788292If only, all those writers, artists and scientists never existed...
>>545788314>whose days are countedyes! we're at 1,711 so far, longest 3 days of my life xD
>>545788369Borrowed wholesale from France and GermanyMost of Russian elite in the 18th and 19th century knew French better than RussianThe same variant of the engine Soviets licenced from Ford in the 1920s has been powering all their tanks, Armata failed because the height of Russian engineering was "let's just add the same engine flipped upside down lmao"
>>545788369Oooh. They had artists like every single country out there, and scientists every single country out there had and have.Imagine having all that amazing shit and be 140-150 million people and never managed to create anything beside a dog shit country that no one ever want to live in. Yeah lets move to Russia for the Russian dream . Kinda amazing is it that all the "greatness" Russia has with all its people, never managed to come close to Germany, France or UK with a fraction of landmass and people. Really strange.
I really literally do not care about pooland.The asiatic mongols can tear pooland a new partition and I'd laugh it off and bless them.
>>545788607that's the way i feel about Ukraine.
>>545786292Russia is entitled to these by the UN charter and the agreement NATO made with Russia in May 97. They are enforcing these reasonable demands.
>>545788860>the agreement NATO made with Russia in May 97Can we see it?
>>545786136If NATO is a threat to Russia, why do the wives, lovers, and children of Russian generals, politicians, and oligarchs live in NATO countries?Why does Russia export natural resources to Western countries and import machinery from them?
>>545786231I want your people dead too :D
>>545786721>>545786905We will build our nukesThe whole Europe willI think we can make more than 20000, we have the money for it.The point is to make more than double whatever Russia has.In every type of weapon.They're a poor shithole, we can afford that.
>>545789147>we have the money for it.
>>545788509I wouldn't be caught dead going to germany, am very sorry am sure they are great people but is not for meYour standard for greatness sounds very silly to be honest I don't think any Germán writer can compare to the russians of the same time period, and is amazing how prehistoric their psychology looks in comparisonWhile I agree they ain't doing great lately would be dishonest of me to not consider all their development during the XXth CenturyWhich I think is your problem
>>545786136>demanding
>>545786136Putin's plan for Europe is just a loop of POPPOPOLANDBOLAND NEXTPOPOPPOPOLAND BOLLANDPOLLANDBOLAND NEXPONEXT PONEXTPO
>>545788860Just like the agreement Russia signed in December 94 where it promised to respect Ukraine's borders in exchange for its nuclear weapons? Oh right, that doesn't count.
>>545786136Damn 1997
Chances for peace are pretty grim now that democrats are back. He should just grind down Ukraine and build it back into Russia honestly
