How sick would it be if because of all this we got a democrat in office in 2028 and we finally started catching up to China with high speed rail?
Have you seen the debt clock recently?You can't afford all that shit without cutting costs somewhere else.
you'd need to deport all the jeets first
>>545795568All western countries are incapable of building high-speed rail efficiently unfortunately, that includes both you, us and UK
that'd be cool so neither party will do that.
>>545795568Youve got to be completely nigtardedHigh speed rail would just be ruined by city niggersLike you
>>545795568Would be stupid cause it’s just worse than planes for long distance and worse than cars for short distance.
Japan gave technologies of high speed train to China, very sorry.
Why would I want to get on a train of niggers? To go where? NYC? More niggers. Boston? More niggers. Portland Maine? Tranny niggers. I don't need a high speed rail to take me to places that I avoid and the places I want to go I can get there by car
>>545795568https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_High-Speed_RailCalifornia approved of high speed rail in 2008 18 years agoThere's kids who were born when this project started that are adults todayHow effective is high speed rail in California?
>>545795568would be amazing to have a rail system from norme alaska all the way to maimi florida. not just from washington dc to bostonbut that would be hecking communism! we only want stupid archs that trump wants
>>545795568It will never happen. The elites in the US need a population reset. Once the population resets then they will make infrastructure a priority.
>>545796340We are talking about high speed railWho will you mentally ill tds niggers obsess over 24/7 when trump is gone?
>>545796219> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_High-Speed_RailCalifornia approved of high speed rail in 2008 18 years agoThere's kids who were born when this project started that are adults todayHow effective is high speed rail in California?your statement only shows us sytem of slow development of rail is highly inefficient compared to chinese superior system. that doesn’t mean “rail bad”
>>545795568You miserably failed to build one in California despite the Democrats being in charge there. You need to elect people who actually get infrastructure built and not just shout about how bad team red or blue are, it's not even a corruption issue, China is plenty corrupt, they just know that if they actually skim some from the top, or put their cousin in charge of the project, they still need to actually get the thing built and in time to not get shot. They can't just blame team opposite color for nothing getting done and sit back.
>>545795568You want daily news about derailments you have to suppress from the international news and tracks that just exists but have and will never see a actual train like the Chinks ?Fucking lel, just burn the money and pretend it's there like Germany.
>>545795568You fucking idiot.The problem isn't actual high speed rail.It's the niggers that are going to be on the high speed rail.Yuropoors love to make fun of us on this issue, but trains and rail are literally not a feasible American option for the foreseeable future.
>>545795568There's no point because we're not highly populated. We actually have been removing a lot of rail roads and the ones that do run, do it at a loss for community service.OP is a tiny dick low IQ chink mutt that hinges on China to feel special
>>545796436If Americans got a Democrat into the presidency they could get high speed rail developed at the same rate as California >>545795568Because you can't say "Democrats will build just as fast as China" if the solid blue state has been working on this for decades with little progress
>>545796499they aren't feasible because america simply cannot build them...because the west cannot build things anymore and there is no surplus money in government budgets
>>545796499cars are also superior, you don't have to stop every 15-30 minutes for someone get on
>>545796219>>545796631Except the only reason that specific project got held up for as long as it did was due to private interests intentionally stopping it. I'm not kidding that's literally why Elon Musk's Boring Company exists. America was/is captured by the automotive industry and they've made it their business to make high speed rail in this country not happen.So the things you're saying are really disingenuous to the point of lying
WHY THE FUCK ARE RETARDS SO OBSESSED WITH HIGH SPEED RAIL?JUST DRIVE A DAMN CAR OR TAKE AN AIRPLANE RETARD.
amerigolems are so propagandized they actually gloat about being robbed of connected communities and having infrastructure because oil jews and automaker jews lobbied the fuck to destroy everything and force you to commute
>>545796435> We are talking about high speed rail>Who will you mentally ill tds niggers obsess over 24/7 when trump is gone?you are aware trump is president right and is talking about construction projects in dc, bit letting the rest of america burn. obama tried to get a high speed rail from boston all the way to florida and republicans shot it down cause they really stupid and dumb.
>>545796958> WHY THE FUCK ARE RETARDS SO OBSESSED WITH HIGH SPEED RAIL?JUST DRIVE A DAMN CAR OR TAKE AN AIRPLANE RETARD.>im driving a car though northern new jersey and new york city to see the radio city rocketteshow about eat my dick? driving sucks BALLS in urban areas
>>545796989>A train line between NYC and Miami creates a "connected community".>The vast highway network that connects NYC and Miami doesn't.Leftists and their retarded pre-packaged grand narratives are stupid and detached from reality.
>>545796606china is the same population density and size and usa. and they are building in the west of china.
>>545795568The trucking industry and the auto manufacturers will never allow that.
>>545795568Niggers Thats why we dont do public transportation.China doesn't have niggers.
>>545796836Do you think if the project got nationalised and Americans tried building high-speed rail across 50 states instead of a few, there would be more private interests trying to hold up the project or fewer?
>>545796989We are too far in debt to ever be able to afford your stupid utopia.
>>545797507No.Niggers.Thats the reason why not
>>545796606roads operate at a loss by design, every road in the country is siphoning tax dollars (and not just from gas taxes) for its maintenance, and using that free money to outcompete rail.
>>545797557Worth it.Niggers.We CANNOT do trains.
>>545796676> because the west cannot build thingshas fuck all to do with money. they are de industrializing the west because maintaining public transport cost capitalists lots of money. they would much believe in magical thinking of elon musk with weundur weapons like jet packs or “driver less” cars that aren’t driverless.
>>545797415china has chinese people in their western parts that has sun tan so much they are literally black. you know shit about china.
>>545797627> We CANNOT do trains.your one stupid faggot. i was literally just on a rail train from trenton to manhattan. explain to me how we “don’t do trains” when northeastern us literally already does
>>545797507That's why it's important that we control the levers of power so we can just tell those people to fuck off because their interests are at odds with the greater public good. This election was a baby step in the right direction. The next election is another step foreword, and so on. Telling people "better things simply just aren't possible" hasn't been proving a great strategy for winning lately, now has it?
>>545797526you can afford subsidizing israel to be their utopia and trillion dollar wars though
>>545797557> road in the country is siphoning tax dollarsoh and they don’t maintain them. the bypass just keeps getting filled in, so a week later more potholes. instead of digging thr thing up and replacing it.
>>545797645NIGGERS.No public mass transit.NIGGERS is the reason.This thread is stupid. Address the NIGGER elephant in the room
>>545797161>driving sucks BALLS in urban areasand taking the train doesn't?You want to see the Rockettes?Literally nothing stops you from living your railrosd fantasy and taking the PATH train to the subway to Radio City to see the Rockettes.>But that sucks...WHY WOULD HIGH SPEED RAIL BE DIFFERENT?
The richest bluest state in our country can't even build a fucking mile of it after 10 years lmaoyou guys are such cancer. Socialism + niggers simply doesn't work.
Why do bugmen and europoids want us to have trains so badly? I used to have to take metro north to nyc, and quite frankly I wish they could just bulldoze down those ugly old brownstones in upper manhattan and add blocks and blocks of parking lots like they have on Dallas.
>>545797833California seems as blue as it gets and they still don't have enough power and haven't had enough power for the last 18 years to get it done
>>545797889you shouting nigger makes you like stupid retard who is incapable of critical thought>i will actively make white peoples lives WORSE because black people existwhat kind of retardation is this?
>>545797995see >>545796836
>>545797995did you forget elon musk aas the one stopping construction? do you think private capitalists don’t have power in us
>>545797070Maybe it’s actually a stupid idea because DC is bigger central and a railways connecting that shithole to anywhere still white is a death sentence for those communities. Fuck public transit and fuck the nigger public.
>>545795568I will never understand the fetishistic obsession people have with high-speed rail. We have a rail system, we use it for freight, what the fuck do we need high speed rail for?
>>545795568It won't happen because of basic infrastructure economics. America already has a vast freight rail net. It's too large for passenger rail to make sense, when cars and planes cover our watersheds for personnel transport faster. Throw in blacks and browns too, and it's an utter slopmeme. It would not do anything good or relevant, you're simply vibing ignorantly.
>>545797802I was too - took at 7:36 train this morning. Were you on the same train as me anon?
>>545798001Having trains with nigs would be actively making everyone's lives worse
>>545797802The east coast is an overpopulated shithole full of niggers. You freaks think this horrible lifestyle living like rats on top of each is normal and it’s not. It’s disgusting and worth quarantining from the rest of the planet. I hate living here and can’t wait to leave, fuck you.
>>545798068Making it a 50 state project is going to make 50 times as many private interests try to obstruct the project.
>>545798268They are basically the human incarnation of cancer. Just existing to pile on top of each other and shit and suck and fuck on each other in the worst ways. Thank God they don't have kids.
>>545798272That and we'd all rather die than share these trains with browns.
>>545797557>High speed rail lines which need to be meticulously maintained to prevent catastrophic derailments won't need maintenance
>>545798122You already do: it's a fetish. Leftists see something (countries without browns) and identify something related (nice public transport) and because they're virgins (to engineering and logistics) they hyperfixate on the accessories. The reality of how transport works is lost on them. They're the public planning version of incels.
>>545798272If only we had some kind of strong federal authority that could supersede them and deny/ignore their requests
>>545798358Damn, China must be using some kind of crazy magic then I guess, because they seem to do it just fine
>>545798358Rail won't be free either, but this is only ever used as an argument against railways even though we already spend a quarter of a trillion dollars on roads.If roads couldn't operate at a loss, there wouldn't be enough of them for you to drive anywhere.
>>545795568Never gonna happen, that shit requires literal decades of planning.
>>545798545What powers does the federal department of transportation have that this California transportation project lacks?
>>545798731China did it.
>>545798745They're the federal government- eminent domain.Do you actually know how the land for our current railroads were acquired? it wasn't by asking nicely and saying please.
>>545796436It was done in a dumb way because regulation didn’t have huge. New public works in mind in an already mature state when new regulation was made also law fair had never been done that way before also they let contractors write their own rules essentially, with little oversight. And then they drug their feet with no accountability. If it was don’t now all those lessons would be learned.
>>545796606Hsr and commercial rail are for different economic purposes
>>545796989>we can have a peaceful society with niggersopinion disregarded
>>545798268Make the tickets $$$ and just a little less than gas to a destination. No problem anymore
>>545796436This is the end of the argument. If the most leftist "prog" state with the most money in this country can't do it, no one else can. And why would we? To train in more niggers and fags? No thanks.Sounds like roadmaxxing insulates you from the cancer actually.
And the hilarious thing is California is ideal for a nice long high speed rail line going parallel to highway 1 connecting the coastal megalopoles. GET ONE DONE THERE FIRST LEFTIES THEN WE CAN TALK ABOUT ANYTHING ELSEkek
>>545798923All U.S. states have legislation specifying eminent domain procedures within their respective territorieshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eminent_domain_in_the_United_StatesEvery single state has Eminent Domain powers
>>545798268keep seetheing you migger tranny. east coast built america faggot. i bet you cried like bitch when you lost tuseday cause you red neck faggotville might hsve to enter thr 21st century
>>545799693> All U.S. states have legislation specifying eminent domain procedures within their respective territorieshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eminent_domain_in_the_United_StatesEvery single state has Eminent Domain powersyou know dam well billionaires don’t ever get eminent domianed. they are the ones bribbing the government
>>545799693Okay? And they're still the federal governement. States or local municipalities can challenge their authority, but ultimately they still have final say. But also, you're getting back to the point of why it's ultimately so important to control the levers of power so we can tell these assholes and their private interests to fuck off
HIGH SPEED NIGGERS
>>545799258>>545799327uour a faggot migger cuckhold who lost tuseday eldction because all you can do is shout to other americans and say “your life should be worse because billionaires deserve tax breaks”
>>545795890I don’t pay my debts and get away with no consequences so I doubt the gov has to pay theirs
>>545798731> Never gonna happen, that shit requires literal decades of planning. so how did china do it in a few years? how did china build entire cities in a few years?
>>545795568You've had the democrats in office for the last century yet they haven't accomplished anything.
>>545800200> You've had the democrats in office for the last century yet they haven't accomplished anything.>in 2009, Obama purposed these two relevant corridors were:>Southeast Corridor: Washington, D.C. Richmond Raleigh Charlotte Atlanta Macon Savannah Jacksonville.>Florida Corridor: Jacksonville (through the broader Southeast network) Orlando Tampa Miami.> Yes. Republican governors and congressional Republicans opposed or rejected significant parts of Obama's high-speed rail initiative, particularly in 2011.2. Republican-controlled House opposed further fundingIn March 2011:House Republicans sought to cut approximately $2.5 billion from high-speed rail funding.Senate Democrats proposed a smaller $1.5 billion reduction.The Republican House's broader budget proposals targeted passenger rail and Amtrak funding as well. 
>>545799910>>545800126Well now that dems won it’s all gonna happen this time right dumb fuck?
>>545800786you realize king migger is president?
>>545795568That only works in China because the Chinese tax land.So they build a metric shit ton of infrastructure to increase the value of the land, and thus increase the tax revenue.Or system comes from the rothchild/monarchic style of economic governance, which has been in place since around 1913. But been in place in Europe for far, far longer.That style is basically: tax the middle class with income tax and money debasement. Then let the wealthy sit on their land and assets forever and pay less tax. Sometimes even zero tax.The wealthy could improve their land theoretically, but there’s zero incentive to do so since it will just appreciate anyways as the currency debases itself. Plus bickering with other land owners would be a massive pain.Eventually this rothchild/monarchic style of society is going to have to die because it’s just less efficient than the chinese model of taxing land and building infrastructure. Either it dies by people realizing it sucks or it dies by being proven to suck in WW3.It’s a shame too because the Chinese for the most part are dumbasses who just leverage their smart people well and they were fortunate enough to get a land tax + infrastructure feedback loop going without understanding why it was a good thing.Even though the way they set up the system is pretty retarded, with them doing it through one time fees, which is a dumb way to tax anything, much less land.It’s also unproven if their system can even innovate at all, considering all these improvements are just copies of existing infrastructure. There’s no signs that they are going to roll out a flying car network anytime soon.But even with their scuffed system they still mog our fake-commie rothchild system.
>>545795568You can't build like this under democrat policies which consist of massive regulations designed to prevent construction.
>>545801571And? He hasn’t done shit lmao what’s your point? Now he has even less power, so when are you expecting your dipshits to deliver?
>>54579556830 trillion in debt, lets build a pointless rail system that nobody will use to begin with and the ones who do will stop using it after about a year when niggers ruin it completely.The new left are genuinely shit for brains retard running on pure delusion..
>>545796219California’s rail projects fail because the government has no incentive to ever get it done.California has such an infamously bad property tax system it’s known by name in the rest of the US. Prop 13.Why would the California government ever care about the completion of public infrastructure if the increased property value from it is never taxed?
>>545795568So you want the thing that you fucked up in California, and you want me to pay for it. Great.
>>545795568>high speed railWHY DO NIGGERS NEED TO GO FAST ON TRAINS?!?!?That is the only thing we would get out of this investment.It is a complete waste of money for that reason only, but that reason is sufficient to just not bother.
>>545802862you still need king migger to sign a bill to enact high speed rail. he already said he would veto everything.
>>545802866> 30 trillion in debt,don’t care boomer. debt us owes itself. trump raised it a couple trillion times. meaning less statement.
>>545795568Why would I want to travel to other parts of the US?
>>545795568I honestly cannot understand the mind of mouth breathing dumb fucks like you.>Haha, what if the democrats are actually amazing and do everything I ever hoped for?Dems and reps have split the last century pretty much 50:50 between them. And the reason the split is pretty much 50:50 is because both parties are giga-AIDS and the population can only tolerate them for like 4-8 years before their hatred has reached levels where they forget why they punished the other side before and switch back to them.Dems won't do any of what you want, same how they didn't do anything you wanted the last time.Same for the reps.The US is a nation completely held captive by the two party system and the only way it will ever go is into further steady decline until it balkanizes.
>>545795568I don’t know about train stations but their airports sucks. It look like they don’t like to sit down on chairs. They either sleep on the floor either stand until all checks completed and they’re in gate zones. And it also very dirty and Starbucks closed before my eyes because they hate money and their stores not open at night. Oh and at night there are also no light at all on city in any park. It’s dark like in black ass with Hollywood movie filter. Actually I expected much better from china
>>545797710Ok... so what? It's not their dark skin that makes them incompatible, it's their niggardly behavior.
>>545798268I love how you deranged migger faggots just live in your own make believe world "It's unnatural!!" Actually living in close proximity to other humans is completely natural. What's not natural is having to run sewer and power lines to every white trash ameroid living in their own individual boxes where you live 45 minutes away from a grocery store and your nearest neighbor can only be seen faintly in the distance. In actual reality, that is a deeply inhuman and unnatural way to live. It also requires billions of dollars of gibs bux to run sewer and power to the tens of millions of white trash living this way. What's natural is being in walking distance from a grocery store, coffee shop, pharmacy and bar. What's natural is going outside your home and seeing a bustling community of people going about their lives. What's unnatural is stepping outside your suburban gibs box and feeling like you must have slept through a zombie apocalypse because the streets are empty because the density is so low.
high speed rail is the gayest shit on the planet dont listen to faggots claiming its useful, its not. the only purpose for a train is to get you to your airport, full stop. it doesnt matter if youre in america or usa. literally no one takes the train to london and theres even that faggot tunnel. its garbage. theyre building another tunnel below the sea to denmark now and i am sitting here: who the fuck would take a train to stockholm? do you niggers know how far that is?long distance freight is ok and i like that. but for people its garbage. i say that as a huge tech nerd. i have seen many train travel logs. do yourself a favor and do this, too. its insane how many people quit. some people do a 14 day trip train every day and almost all of them end up completely miserable. a train is a tool and not some orient express 5 star shit. this is not real life. take a cruise ship if you like travel romance.
>>545805709*if youre in america or europe i need to type slower
>>545796089Wrong.
>>545796435Who's the next retard you got on deck for prez?
>>545805843the instant i have A SINGLE PASSENGER in my car its cheaper than going by train, the only thing i pay is my time. but knowing faggot trains, their delays and problems a car has a dramatically lower risk factor, too. if i need to be somewhere at a precise time i can not afford to take a train. its garbage for poor people who dont have important business
>>545795568Yeah...Only one Problem !Democrats are mostly Liberals (extreme Center Internationalists)Not China style Communists (Far Left Nationalist)Oh andAnother problemUSA system is just Political CenterYou guys do not have Left or Right SpectrumYou all are just and only Liberal anarcho-Fascists CenterDemocrats are in fact Liberal AnarchistsRepublicans are Liberal FascistsSo no You are out of Luck!You will never get chance even compete with China !From here is just Down to 3rd World for USA!!!But do not worry EU is not far behind YOU!So ...Any Questions?
>>545795568>How sick would it be if because of all this we got a democrat in office in 2028 and we finally started catching up to China with high speed rail?How did that work with democrats in California?30 fucking years, TENS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARSNOTHING IS BUILTSocialism doesn't work
No. Stay where you are, niggers.
>>545803791We’ve already established it’s a dumbfuck idea anyway why would we even want that? What’s wrong with your brain?
>>545800126>leftist retard thinks billionaires are rich due to tiny tax cuts and not endless money printing
>>545795568america does the same thing, with underground rails and cities. anons are not allowed in those Time Zones
>>545795568Amerrica has more rail than china right now.
>>545795568Not getting anything done with chuck shumer or the other democrat fossils in office. They don't live in the current world or understand any of the modern urgencies, they'll only push the status quo.
>>545806175Wages decline relative to inflation because business owners are cutting wages. If businesses actually cared, they would simply peg wages to inflation like some already do.The inflation part of this is basically an accounting trick so they don't have to explicitly cut pay, which was common under the gold standard.Ending inflation would do nothing to help declining wages.
>>545795568Too bad you'd just fill those rail wagons with niggers and junkie hobos.
>>545795568If we did make a rail system it would be massively underutilized. Believe it or not 1.4 billion is significantly larger then 350 million. You also have to consider the topography. The location of china's rail system is largely built over areas that have centuries of land development from agriculture. If the United States were to undertake such a large scale project massive amount of money whould need to be spent on surveying and then compaction alone. The most realistic avenue for a high-speed rail system to work in the United States whould likly be state funded projects and railways that over time whould link up to other states systems. Given the massive land size but relatively small population Amarican highways seem like a more effective transport system as they allow for better flexibility in travel.All of this is based on information I got from my penis so you know it's legit because my penis whould never lie to you.
>>545806175Compromise : print some money, but only allocate it to fund public services, public working projects and debt reliefkeep the remaining capitalist system mainly untouchedsome inflation yes, but money is given to the productive commoner and will trickle up to capitaliststhat means more production and higher quality public services aswell as more household consumption due to lowered debts
>>545795568We can have high speed rail at any time if we actually enforce existing law. We don't enforce existing law because das racis. That is why we are behind China.
>>545806093Is there like a code or something in there?Why the wierd spaceing.
>>545806576money has to be backed by something. you cant print a dollar for each bread and then some fag eats the bread. that dollar would be worthless. you need something anything that could be traded back for the dollar. thats the idea behind printing money for credits and the vetting process for credits. when someone builds a house its fine to print exactly the amount of money that house is worth since that house is now in circulation and no one can eat it = it can be traded back for the same amount of money. modern money creation is ofc way more perverted and actively obscured from the public. its not as simple as my house example. its another swamp that needs draining.
>>545796606I’d argue having local rail and HSR creates population density and boosts economy
>>545795568Trains are zoomer reddit slop
>>545795568Not gonna happen. America isn't industrious as a nation anymore.
Realistically, HSR would only be restricted to several regions where the city pairs actually make sense versus air travel + metro size. Pic-related.We should probably focus more on fully-funding Amtrak, getting their ticket prices down and increasing capacity for routes to meet the growing demand, before considering something crazy like blasting tunnels through the Alleghenies for a Chicago to NYC bullet train.Mass-electrification, and enforcing Amtrak's right-of-way over freight (if not-outright buying rail ROWs and/or nationalizing freight) would be good to be promoted, too.
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>>545796340>>545796435It would kill the domestic airline industry.
>>545795568>catching up to ChinaThe problem with this mentality here is that not only does america not have the domestic talent required due to years of culturally disincentivizing gifted people, but america also doesn't have the domestic manufacturing capabilities to 'compete' with anyone let alone china. America optimized itself for short term profits by selling its productive capabilities to east asia because it's run by wealth obsessed dysfunctional morons that are enabled by fat gay, and retarded niggers like you.>>545807507This too. I wouldn't be surprised if there was an airline industry lobby that exists primarily to shoot down any ideas that float up about HSR
>>545796606>>545795568A transcontinental high speed rail is probably not worth it right now because it would be slower than taking a plane and require a ton of maintenance but we could absolutely do regional high speed rails.1. One in the north east connecting NYC, Boston, Philadelphia, DC. Could probably go up into Toronto, Detroit, etc. 2. One in California connecting LA, San Francisco, and other major cities. Could potentially go all the way up into Seattle and Vancouver3. One in Texas4. One in the deep south and/or Florida.And gradually over time these rails could connect to each other.>>545807190Pretty much this
>>545807563>not only does america not have the domestic talent If this were a real issue, the unemployment rate for STEM degrees wouldn't be higher than the unemployment rate for non-STEM majors.Billionaires just say this stuff to justify pulling in more H1Jeets, and morons like you eat it up.
>>545807831It's how China began theirs, but the difference was they had a structured plan for how to complete it. That's the advantage of having a command economy- you get to make these long term public good investments, whereas with the united states we just have to hope somebody really rich comes along that wants to fund the entire thing, or can get investors together. Their's is clearly a better system in that reagard, but it doesn't make it totally impossible or out of reach for the US- it just means we need politicians (and enough of them, and in the correct positions of government) who prioritize it. (admittedly, it's a long shot- but we're currently in the best position we've been in to get it than we have in the past maybe 75 years)
>>545808141Most of those STEM degrees on your chart are H1B jeets. Also, notice how things like mechanical engineering and physical sciences have high rates of unemployment rather than that generalized "STEM fields" point. I'm sure that what they mean be "STEM" is usually some variation of software/computer science which validates my original point that america no longer has PHYSICAL manufacturing. Here's a slightly newer graph from 2024 by the way. I'm sure it's much worse now that AI has been shown to have damn near no ROI
>>545808216We had a taste of that during the New Deal era with the government organizing public works and to a lesser degree later on with the highway system. I agree that we need the government to do more long-term planning while bringing together business and labor to get it done. Biden's CHIPS and Science act was a step in the right direction at least.
>>545796340Why do we need to travel so far and fast? How is that winning? I travel like twice a year
>>545806411>Wages decline relative to inflation because business owners are cutting wages.No, it happens because the newly printed and spent money is consuming resources, thus making wages for the workers worth less.If we didn't have inflation we would have falling prices with rising wages.>If businesses actually cared, they would simply peg wages to inflation like some already do.That's not fucking possible retard. They have to compete with other firms. Their input costs rise, if they raised wages adjusted for inflation their profit margins would go down. >>545806576>Compromise : print some money, but only allocate it to fund public services, public working projects and debt relief>keep the remaining capitalist system mainly untouchedWhy do you support speculative bubbles, inequality and devaluation of wages?
>>545795568For some reason, the Anglosphere is incapable of carrying out mega-infrastructure projects. Nowadays, you see that even Mexico is building railways. I suppose it has something to do with bureaucracy, but I have no idea. I imagine there must be a very logical explanation for it, like the one the anons mentioned earlier regarding the Republicans rejecting Obama’s proposal.The American system is very good at preventing nigger-like dictators from causing irreversible damage to the country, but the downside is that it’s impossible to get anything built
>>545795568Railways are the true artery of industrialization. You simply cannot move serious material weight across large distances without a railway.Think minerals.. metal... fuel.
>>545809227>No, it happens because the newly printed and spent money is consuming resources, thus making wages for the workers worth less.Why does this not happen for any other commodity or service? The value of the dollar is lower, so shouldn't beef be less expensive?>they just raise the price of beefThen why don't they just raise their wages as well? Why do employers choose to let wages fall relative to the prices of their products?>They have to compete with other firms. Their input costs rise, if they raised wages adjusted for inflation their profit margins would go downSo they're cutting wages to compete with other firms, then? Why are you blaming inflation for wages falling, then saying it's a decision by companies in order to stay competitive?
>>545795568Can't happen unless America starts purging corrupt bureaucrats and business leaders like China does. California started it's HSR initiative nearly 20 years ago and it's gone practically nowhere due to rampant corruption
>>545809251East Asians are uniquely good at navigating bureaucracy. They have it but are still dead set on throwing bodies on any project like ants. Total efficiency. It's why they're so good at manufacturing.Whites can only do it if women aren't in government
>>545809227Changing the economic system must be made step by step to avoid cobra effectsyep in the ideal case, a strict wealth cap at around 25M/50M past which a capitalist must work to make his employees and the society really thrive would be betterbasically some form of market socialism (market economics, free enterprise founding but without obscenely rich billionnaires)
>>545795568I live in a blue state and genuinely nothing gets done. Hundreds of special interests need to be paid off before dirt is broken. Democrats are the third worlder and traitor rent seeker party, Republicans are the jew rent seeking party
>>545796340You are blaming Trump because no real high speed rail has been built over the last 50 fucking years?
>>545809509>Why does this not happen for any other commodity or service? The value of the dollar is lower, so shouldn't beef be less expensive?What is really happening is everyone gets more expensive, including labor, but wages are one of the last things to go up. Wages do go up due to inflation, but they go up last. I'm not an economist and can't explain the rest of your post but these questions have answers.Either way abolishing central banking/inflation would solve all of these problems.
>>545806782Just for better reading!
>>545795568There is far too much corruption in the US for this to happen no matter the party. In Canada we are building a single line that is costing 90 billion. The same distance of track was built in China for 10 billion. We cant build in the west because of this its why serious infrastructure improvement here is a fantasy until there is a serious crackdown on bribery fraud and white collar crime
The US government would have to use eminent domain to demolish thousands of homes to create space for the rail and stations, that would be extremely unpopular with homeowners. China is able to do this because they're a totalitarian government where homeowners don't have any rights.
>>545796089Nigga who wants to fly these days? Niggers are on planes. They cant afford an amtrak sleeper car.
>>545810801Doesnt stop them from claiming domain when they want to build highways.
>>545795568we had a democrat in office just 2 years ago.
>>545811128I feel like they haven't really done that too much since the 1950s. The last few highways that were recently created have been in really unpopulated rural areas, which I'm sure still pissed off ranchers and farmers. But using eminent domain on the eastern seaboard where most of the US population lives would end up demolishing entire neighborhoods, that would piss off so many people, it would be a career ending decision for any politician.
>>545806033>"tell me you've never been to Japan, China, or South Korea without telling me you've never been to Japan, China, or South Korea"
>>545797282That's because their average citizen can't buy cars, anon. Basically everyone in the U.S. can afford a car. Not true in China, so there's a much greater need for trains.
>>545810801>totalitarian governmentyou are using liberal buzzwords again.
>>545814427liberalism sucks man, I wish the government enslaved me and forced me to toil in a fieldit would be so based
>>545796677>what are express trains
>>545797392You'd free up the highways of several million cars if we had HSR. That's good for truckers, way less traffic and less risk of an accident.
>>545795568HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAYOU LOST CHUDDY
>>545807831>it would be slower than taking a planeWhat if I told you that railways can be used to transport many things?
>>545816308how do people get to a station if its too far to walk
>>545795568Cool it with the anti-Indianism.
>>545807507no it wont u retard
>>545816359you appear injured
>>545796989those solar panels are probably manufactured in china requiring the very same factories pictd in the bottom image, not mentioning all other synthetic materials, anyway, at least the idea is right. Technological vs technocratic society.
high speed rail is impossible in the usa due to Big Road and Big AirOne of the biggest travesties of US rail is they treat their workforce like slave labour and refuse to maintain the logistic rail the country depends on, something a government should actually step in to change.
>>545811720politicians are only accountable to the oligarchy that puts them into office. that's whom they serve. that's their job. they don't govern they represent.
>>545795568How do you plan to catch up? Do you think demoncrats are going to dismantle all the different offices that need to certify bullshit and fags that are in government contracts just to embezzle money?
>>545817155Going outside is too far of a walk for you, tubby tumpkins.
>>545796606Kek
>>545795568know what's faster than high speed rail?a nukesend all your icbms to china and nuke those slit eyed yellow skinned midget sickly demons before they spread any further.thanks in advance
>>545820281MacArthur pls
>>545812457Japan trains are shit the second you step of the Shinkansen, China trains are a complete mess where you go through 2 anal TSA tier searches before even entering the train station and even then as a foreigner you have to break 5 laws as you are not allowed to enter "critical infrastructure" not allowed to purchase a train pass (you could only do as you gamed the system and the Chinks don't give a fuck) and don't get me started on South Gookland.HSR is a meme, it works on 3 corridors in france(that all pass through Paris and you won't get anywhere without going through Paris) the Madrid - Barcelona corridor in Spain and 3 routes in Germany (Frankfurt-Siegburg, Berlin-Hannover-Würzburg and the Ingolstadt-Leipzig).We have like 50km of HSR and that's the Gotthard base tunnel, Italy could have some but the trains are so hit and miss you rather take the 15€ Ryanair flight...)
>>545821320was there a national referendum in Switzerland on the "covid-19" tyranny/genocide?
theyd have to disarm the populace first. cant just let guns access jews and zogbots at ease. plus jews have no interest in making america anything other than third world
>>545821741Actually 3 and they sadly all failed by 60/40 margins. But covid wasn't that bad in switzerland desu took me 10CHF to get a mask exemption and 20CHF to get a faked original vaxx pass. I pretty much travelled all the 3 COVID years and had fun.
>>545795568yeah, that high speed train in cali wali is mindblowing. that was so awesome. you're right, leftists are so competent -- especially in matters of infrastructure. when are you naive dolts going to realize that none of these people believe in any of this? it's just means for them to grift and embezzle and steal. everything a leftist does is a grift. like solana. like everything 'green'. you tards think gavin newsome cares about the green agenda? lol. no, he's always scouting for some buck with a very high proportion of ghost DNA to pound he and his 'wife'. gavin is most turned on by a sloping forehead. the lower the IQ and the more primative the specimen, the more excited he gets. the newsomes are looking to adopt four wayward teen from Ghana with low impulse control and no prefrontal cortex. it's like with universal health care. they don't give a damn if you die or perish in illness. they want yet another public funded boondogle to pilfer. these people are complete and total lowlifes. name one leftest agenda that's resulted in a beneficial program that actually works. there are none. they're all a disaster of fraud, waste and abuse. we need a totally different way of doing things. we honestly need two americas. each takes care of itself. we can't do this anymore.
>>545796340we can't even attempt this with grifting leftists in office. the two billion dollar cali wali high speed train is now over 40 billion dollars and will likely never be completed. moreover, no one will ride it because diversity will make travel on it an absolute nightmare. in order for public transportation to work, we have to segregate society. public transportation was amazing in America before integration. we don't have to have strict racial segregation. we can just keep the undesirables out. we can easily code someone as anti-social and menace to society. if you prove you cannot get along with others, you don't ride. simple as. and the first time you're caught acting a fool, being violent, causing chaos, spraying graffiti or menacing others, you're out for good. I'd consider supporting some big project if we could go about it sensibly. I think blacks would agree with that. they would love to not deal with niggers. we're all fed up with niggers...particularly black people.
>>545821320Oh and forgot to add germany want to turn the Karlsruhe-Basel section into HSR since 1980 and there's pretty much nothing build. The entire Freiburg-Offenburg segment isn't even past the earliest planning stage and gets redrawn by left/green objections over some fucking bug or tree year after year.
>>545796041yeah why attempt anything in life when someone out there on your way
>>545795568Like California?Oh wait...That 5billion disappeared into their cleptocratic pockets.
>>545823321You just have to know the biggest promoters of "public infrastructure" are the same people that stall and destroy every SINGLE infrastructure project over some shitty bug or deer crossing. It's the same people that demand a line that will protest against it in full force till it's gone.
>>545796041Just make the tickets expensive enough so that they don't ride. Also the nyc subway for all its faults isn't that bad
You could of had this id Israel didn't demand you go to war in iranSad
>>545823675That doesn't work, they just ride without tickets and beat up conductors, chimp out or randomly pull the emergency handle because mubdabub bix nood dindun nuffin mufug muh dick.In the german speaking parts we call the trains "Gesindelraupe" (vermin caterpillar) for a reason.
>>545809733>market socialismlol
