Can someone explain how this is fair?
Democracy means enforcing the lowest common denominator
75% of the people in the state live in NYC
Why is it that republicans can never comprehend population density?
>>545817407It will be even more fair when 4 of the 5 New York City boroughs would be split up into separate states. Staten Island would be excluded from statehood.
Land red hehe funny image.
>>545817407Land doesn't vote. You lost.
>>545817572>Why is it that republicans can never comprehend population density?They are extremely underdeveloped and deeply mentally ill.
>>545817572Most of them doBut even right wingers think so little of other right wingers that they assume the others don't and try to trick them
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>>5458174073/5ths compromise. Land only counts as 3/5ths a person
>>545817407Land doesnt vote Chuddie!
>>545817407can't we all just get along?
>>545817701staten island is a shithole
Well you see cletus, land doesnt vote... nobody lives in the shithole red parts of the state. Hope this helps, please kys
>>545817523Why should the people who live in NYC decide how people in Orleans County have to live?
>>545817407Republicans never develop their brains beyond toddler level
>>545817407Its fair because only 4 people live in each of those red squares.
>>545817928Because it's the same state
>my vote should count ten times as much as a city slicker
>>545817407What the fuck happens in northeastern New York? Apparently nothing.
>>545817519Democracy IS the lowest common denominator. It’s the worst of all forms of government.
>>545817407Trees and rocks don’t vote
>>545817928Why should toothless meth heads living in a trailers vote count more than NYC voters?
>>545817407>explain how this is fair?At some level of voting you have to accept that there's more people in certain areas.You can do it at the country, state/province, county/riding or municipal level.The US chose state to be where it kicks in, while keeping the higher federal election more balanced. Stepping it down one level to counties COULD work but they're not sized properly for it currently because they weren't determined during that kind of system.
>>545817928In part because NYC makes up a lions share of the tax revenue of the state.
>>545817928a fat retarded orange kike got to decide for me even though I didn’t vote for him.
>>545817407Where do people live? In the blue areas. Who votes? People. You dumb asses love this acreage argument but you just look foolish.
>>545817407Hocul got more votes
>>545817407grass doesn't vote
>>545817779CATHOLIC CHARITIES work VERY HARD to stuff these corrupt jurisdictions with brown retards. Otherwise white people (millenials) would live there. The level of theft and blood shed is unimaginable.This is terrorism, simply put. The great browning of gen Z is the post-millenial 9/11. THE ONLY MIDDLE CLASS in NY are the mud people paid to exist here, to plausibly conceal the voting fraud. The GenX and millionaire boomers (Ithaca is the extreme) love this terrorism more than their own children's babies.
>>545817407Land doesn't vote
>>545818122and it makes most of its money by having the NY fed there, biggest welfare queens of them all. Real industry left nyc and the northeast in general decades ago
>>545818122The businesses make the biggest share of the tax revenue of the state. You really think all those niggers contribute anything positive in terms of taxes?
>>545818049electoral college exists for that desuif the USA used proportional seats the republicans would be wiped out as a party, in the UK you already have to deal with the tyranny of london having 75 seats out of 650Fuck me if I had to deal with california's bullshit with proportional voting i'd be voting to split it into 3 states
>>545817407I wonder which NY party supports Israel the most.
>>545818111Because they're white and NYC isn't. Only white male votes should count.
Dumbfuck retards vote for repubs and when they get less votes than dems they get angry
>>545818106>trees and rocks40% of their voterbase was red, New York isn't as empty and undeveloped like some states.
>>545817407There's a lot of niggers in that little tail so basically they decide all politics for that giant mass of land you posted.
>>545817407>a large plate with 2 cookies has more cookies than the smaller plate with 4 cookies
>>545817928>why is democracy democracyRetard
>>545817572>>545817771Why can't Democrats and leftists understand per capita? Why can't Democrats and leftists understand that non-whites are a net negative everywhere they are? Keep sucking off the blacks, browns, and kikes.
>>545817407That dark red area has a population of 100 peopleThe dark blue area has a population of 1 milliion people.
>>545818211I wouldn't be caught dead working at a catlic chairity or bed or anything, keep trying to beatify your average latinna
>>545817407> grow up massive populations of negro 'people' using welfare programs funded by wyt pipo money> harvest votes from said negros> if wyt pipo try to vote against you, grow up negro vote farm even larger> supplement with demographic replacement browns by import as needed
>>545817407You can’t per capita post if you can’t into population densityAlso NY is heavily trending red for some reason
>>545818049Yes because I'm a straight white male and not nigger, spic, paki, kike, pajeet, hole, etc.
>>545818084The Adirondaks are very, very time consuming to drive to or through. All life in NY is within a few miles of the Erie canal. Anything north of the canal is a much less pleasant winter hardness zone, secondary streets get plowed days later type rural.
>>545817407>my old neighborhood in Suffolk still red>even though renters destroyed it locallyI hate rentniggers so fucking much it's unreal.
>>545818037isn't New York meant to be full of communists?
>>545818122but zuckerberg pays more taxes in 1 day than you will pay in your life, and he still only gets 1 vote? interesting...
>>545818396Because the state is a hightax trainwreck and everyone outside of NYC is getting raped metaphorically. everyone inside NYC gets raped literally
>>545817407So that you would understand it? No I can't. No one can.
>>545818470Stupidest shit I've read all day congrats Moron
>>545818439
>>545818603Project all you want shitskin
>>545818393The 'latrinas' are not indios, they are (carribean) niggers with 100% delusional whiteness castes. They love being parasites and cannot afford to go home their trash islands.
>>545818382Just because one district stacked up more population than another, they should get to rule? That's retarded
>i hate those new york city fags!!!t. dumb miggers who support a new york city spray tanned faggot who dances to ymca
>>545817523>"People"You mean carpet bagger foreign trash that can barely speak English, feels little to no loyalty to the United States and is only here to scam Americans and extract economic opportunities..
>>545817407Land doesn't vote chud, mass-imported illegals do.
>>545817407Sure, just as soon as you explain how colors constitute people? Also, what do you fucktards care about fairness?
>>545818569
>>545818311>democracy democracy>RetardDemocracy doesn't work in the west.
>>545817407Yes anon, land does not vote.
>>545817523So if one person has 10 children, and one person has 2 children, the person with a larger population should get to dictate everything to you, and tell you how to behave? I mean they have nothing to do with you, they just declared sovereignty over you because of their larger population.What if it wasn't even their own kids, but rather their "friends" from overseas they brought over for a visit? Now because they have more people, they get to dictate your rules, how you should live?
>>545818663>Just because one district stacked up more population than another, they should get to rule?Yes?More people = more votes = more power.
>>545818741It does if you heavily restrict who gets to vote in a homogeneous white country.
>>545818311Where is it written that the US is a democracy, faggot?
>>545818470>only gets 1 vote?But influences millions of votes.
>>545818824Nah that's retarded. Even the founding fathers saw through that. Just because you have more people in your city or whatever, doesn't mean you get to overrule everyone else.
>>545817572Why can't leftists understand the 3 5ths compromise was a mistake, negros should have always been counted as zero
>>545818807NY is the Freemasonic Stronghold where they are attempting to eliminate The Rule Of Law (our history and text) by giving it to women and retarded shitskins who prefer terrorism. This plunder has the form of redefinition to fit the meaning that person's prefer, which is to make terrorism (inverting The Law) natural.
>>545818832>vote in a homogeneous white country.BUTT YOU CAN'T HAVE A WHITE CUNTRY.See how it works?
>>545818253And the businesses are largely there because it's the most populated city in the country.
>>545818038Tbh why are city people uber liberal while country people, where nature is, are conservative
>>545819080And thats why it's going to shit like europe. The invaders now run the asylum.
if only miles and miles of frozen, barren, useless land could vote.
>>545817407>wtf there is like a million republican trees in this region
>>545818993They just created a new class of slave (person) and put everyone (and corporations) into it. This makes running the courts easier. Selling a new de facto law unhindered by the de jure history and text.
>>545817407land doesn’t vote dummy rural retards should be happy they can participate
>>545818875>Just because you have more people in your city or whatever, doesn't mean you get to overrule everyone else.Ah yes, the founding fathers who famously didn't give more populated states higher electoral college votes for presidential elections
>>545817572POPULATION DENSITY is to BOOMERCONSASPER CAPITA is to LEFTOIDS
>>545817407I can. I used to live in NY, in the middle of nowhere. The blue places are where all the people live. People vote. Giant expanses of empty godforsaken land don't
>>545819094City life is stressful, agitation, constant threat of niggers raises cortisol. Always want changeRural folk see peace, love in nature. Life is slow, change is not necessary. Republicans were hijacked around the 70s to shove middle east politics down our throat. At this point it doesn't matter who you vote for. You will get the tranny cock shoved in your mouth and you will say thank you.
>>545817572They are morons, u know
>>545819171In Norway, the vote is apportioned in part by land size, yes. The regions with more land get a modifier on their vote, giving the vote more weight. Land literally does vote in Norway. >>545819240In the US, we had to assure the smaller states they wouldn't just be overrulled and dominated by the larger states, it was part of the compromise in the Revolutionary War. So they gave the states equal representation in the Senate. And the electoral college just follows the congressional apportionment.
>>545817407Whites should have never fled from the cities. they did it to themselves
>>545817928All of a sudden rightoids are demanding "no borders".
>>545819094Whites were removed from ownership of northern city centers by the terrorism of the negroe menace in the early 1970's.Upstate NY was a all white labour power paradise until then, just one generation ago, everything was just given over to negroe scab labor. Now these hollowed cores are fulled with shitskin mutts from the territories paid to exist here and vote dem.
you should only get to vote if you have at least a half acre of land.Why does some nigger in a taxpayer paid apartment with no job have an equal vote to a tax paying farmer?
>>545817407Sure. This is how.
>>545819094Women can't help dress like whores. Look at all that ankle. COVER UP you fucking slut.
>>545818119>The US chose state to be where it kicks in, wrong. state governments used to be able to apportion representatives based on county or however they wanted. the supreme court decided that was rasis' and made it illegal so now we have the current situation where every state is ruled by its urban shitholes.
>>545817572It's like per capita to black people
>>545819513>people in the city with no connection whatsoever to the rest of the state, should get to decide the rules the rest of the state lives with
>>545817928Should Orleans County form their own state? Join Canada? What exactly is your proposed solution? You're getting mad about geography.
>>545817407every single time
>>545817407I think the blue counties and the red counties sound have separate laws at the state level. It isn't fair to let someone from the city tell rural folks they need to change their ways only to address problems that are unique to the city
>>545817407Land doesn't vote.Seethe and cope.
>>545819583You mean niggers. The feral beasts ruining both of our countries.
>>545819598No, that would be direct democracy. They just vote on the governor. You're acting like the governor has full control over state finances when there's a stare government that does contain representatives from the rural areas.
They were given free reign to redistrict basically the entire country. They still lost. They even lost where they redistricted especially in the South. And they still post this shit like it fuckin matters lmfao.
>>545817928what are you saying? people in less densely populated areas should have their vote count more? lol
>>545819781So basically nobody agrees with this decision but a copy-paste spamload of the same type of people all stacked together in one small location.
>>545818374How many times in the last 24 hours have you said>IT'S MILLER TIME LIBTARDS
>>545819795They ended up doing better in the states whose gerrymandered map fell through. I saw for Indiana specifically, if the gerrymandered map had gone through almost the entire state would have flipped blue.
>>545819872Yes, retard. Why should the other states stay in America if they're just gonna be ruled by New York City and LA? Why stay in the union, what's the point?
This thread is filled with brown inhumans
>>545817572>violent nigger infested shitholes should be ones determining our elections
>>545819886If that's how you want to visualize the concept of each person getting 1 vote, then yes.
>>545819984You should obey China then. China has more people, they should get to decide how you live.
>>545819945You let your country become majority violent niggers and now, because you live in a democracy, you are going to have to deal with the consequences of demographic change. Entirely your fault.
>>545817407Its like how Greenland isn't considered a superpower.
>>545819795Give em a break anon. They haven't learned how to gerrymander like the experts
>>545819598>the majority gets to make the rulesYes.
>>545818529Pretty much this
>>545819598that's why there are counties with own governments
>>545820153Ok. So people with no connection to your life, your culture, and your needs, should get to rule you if they have a higher population. That means by rights, China and India should get to make the rules for rural Vermont and Charleston South Carolina
>>545819945There's always this point in threads like this where it starts out "How did this legally occur?" And then people start answering by showing that's how the system is supposed to work. And then people like you chime in and act like you're some enlightened thinker by saying "that SHOULDN'T be how it works." It doesn't really matter either way. The dude you're replying to was just answering the first person who was uninformed of the current system.
>>545820042I'm not sure if you're away, but the USA is a completely sovereign nation from China
Nobody can explain why city dwellers in a state should be able to tell what rural farmers can do on their farms. City retards have zero idea what farm work is like, but somehow they have the power to tell them what they can and can't do in terms of farming, planting, harvesting, animals, etc.
>>545820225If Americans have no central culture that unites them on some level then it isnt a real country and they should just balkanize already. Youre basically admitting you dont recognize American as having any culture at all and we should balkanize.
>>545820203Oh, I get it now. So if you want your own representation, you need to form your own government entirely? So you should break off from the US then? That makes a lot of sense.It's almost like the Founders deliberately set up a country where population matters, but doesn't just overrule everything, for a reason. Like this was the exact fucking compromise made to secure the loyalty of the smaller states during the war. Because otherwise they have no reason to be in the union.
It's the same in Alaska. I remeber when Anchorage was just kind of a nice city. Then it went from sort of center to left then came crime and now massive homeless. It's just so fucking bad and their "fuck the rest of the state" is what gets most people. They are ALL transplants there.
>>545819551>used toSo they don't, thanks.
>>545820302So if those other places wanted their own representation, they should break off and form their own government right? That's what you're saying?
>>545820313They generally don't. The governor for both parties is supposed to be considerate of all their constituents, not just the ones who voted for them.
>>545820225I mean that is what democracy is by definition. Yeah if there were some kind of absurd singular global democracy Chinese and Indians would make up about 35% of the voterbase. If you have a problem with democracy just say so. It isn't the perfect system of governance.
>>545820404That doesn't happen. They follow their ideology, which is whatever their jewish handlers tell them.
>>545820439The US isn't a democracy retard
>>545820395No. The only thing I've said is that governors of states are elected via popular vote. I'm not sure why you're trying to put words in my mouth.
>>545820331Um, sweetie, American culture is centered around taking muh pickup to Walmart and walkin around the sto with poopybutt
Miggers are subhumans evidence #1,374,428: >>545817407
>>545820473It is a representative democracy by definition.
>>545818111>create system where people can be so brutally felted they turn into meth heads>"ummm why should these people be allowed a voice?"You're a fucking kike, and Croatia is just a vassal state which the only governing therein is deliberating on the choice of whether to get raped by Russia or get raped by the EU
>>545820473All republics, even constitutional ones, are democracies. Inb4 two wolves and a sheep voting for what's for dinner tired old tripe
>>545820473A democratic republic is under the democracy umbrella. Unless you were saying it's not a direct democracy, in which case you're right.
>>545820528It's ok anon, they still get a voice via state house of representatives. The governor isn't a dictator over the state.
>>545820491Very outdated 2006 view. Present day its niggers banging mumble rap in their fifteen year old altima on the way to Walmart to steal from the liquor isle
>>545819942>Orleans County>NYCthey are in the same state retard.
>>545820484I have a STEM degree, so I'm a scientific thinker. So I think in terms of general principles. You think in terms of whole-number values.Obviously the principle that "more population should rule" is retarded on its face. If so, that concept should apply to everything. You should be questioning why the governor should be elected based on popular vote, rather than something more in line with the district vote. Why should you get to vote if you don't own land, for example? Why should your vote count if you're a net-negative taxpayer? Why should you vote if you fail a cognitive exam?Hell, why should we even have a governor that rules over two totally separate regions as if they're one compact? The states should be more fluid to break off and form their own representative units.
>>545817407You understand how populations affect outcome, yes?
>>545820653They shouldn't be.
>>545820629Yeah i"m sure the yearly census of "EU cock or Russian cock" is a wonderful traditional pasttime of the Croatroaches. Shit dude we're one of the last "free" countries on the planet and people only turn out to vote as protest activism.
>>545817407we can fix it
>>545820747Would the red counties still not just get outvoted by the more populous blue counties in this arrangement as well?
Most of the US military is recruited from the Deep South. I think if the country will just devolve into rule by California and New York City, those people should break off and form their own government. I mean, why be ruled by a foreign population that has nothing in common with you? Nobody consents to that.
>>545820439>If you have a problem with democracy just say so.the founding fathers had tons of problems with democracy which they expounded on in the federalist papers and then created an intentionally non-democratic government.>>545820335shut up stupid nigger we don't live in the country the founders created anymorehttps://constitutioncenter.org/the-constitution/supreme-court-case-library/reynolds-v-sims
>>545820661I have a STEM degree too. I work in nuclear engineering. You're just a retard. Case in in point >>545820473 why would a self-proclaimed scientific thinker make an incorrect claim? If you weren't sure, you should have looked it up before posting.
>>545818038Thats the issue
>>545817407People vote, mostly empty land doesn’t.
>>545819425>labourWhy pretend to be American? Are you that ashamed or you country?
>>545820714Why should I be ruled over by my neighbour down the road? EVERY MAN SHOULD GET HIS OWN STATE!
>>545821037>we don't live in the country the founders created anymoreSo the country has no legitimacy at all then? Why stay in the country then? I mean it's all a big joke then, right?>>545821112The USA is not a democracy in the sense that the majority does not rule. The founders literally set up shit like, landowners only voting. It's not a democracy.
>>545820823California and NY state are a combined 300 billion in debt. If you remove federal aid, which they wouldn't get if they broke off from the US, they'd be in 500-600 billion in debt combined.
>>545821210I mean the argument is that some people should be ruled over by total foreigners, because those foreigners have more population.When I pointed out that means you have to do whatever China says, which is basically the equivalent analogy, you said "b-but that's a different country though". As if this principle only applies within countries, not between countries.Ok, so why should those people stay in the country then? If staying in the country means they're being ruled over by total foreigners, why would they stay? The founders worked out this compromise long ago, we're just re-litigating it here in this thread. No, just because you have more people, does not mean you get to rule over everyone else.
>>545819394We just want new borders
>>545817407Citites provide all the tax revenue.That said, Upstate NY shouldn't even be attached to NYC as it should be it's own state. NYC and Long Island should be it's own thing.
>>545821357no aspect of life is perfect.you happen to live in the country with the best system possible.
>>545821438>Citites provide all the tax revenue.In the modern economy maybe. But the cities are fueled by the material resources from the surrounding country. Without that, the city dies. It's like pulling the plug. So with the modern way that GDP works, sure I guess the city contributes more GDP. But this is like asking whether your head is more valuable than your heart. You need both to survive.
>>545821220>The USA is not a democracyYes it is. You were wrong. Nice degree tranny
>>545817407blue areas are places with lots of people that get their paycheck or gibs from tax dollars
>>545821515No retard, because the left has been steadily changing the system such that we go to popular votes for everything.It used to be the case, for example, that State legislatures were appointed by districts and had nothing to do with the popular vote. The leftists changed that. Now they want to change the entire country to a popular vote system, which means the whole country is essentially ruled by New York city and California. Most of the other states would not consent to that, it's violating the consent of the governed.
>>545821220>The USA is not a democracy in the sense that the majority does not rule. The founders literally set up shit like, landowners only voting. It's not a democracy.You'd think Mr. Scientific Thinker with a STEM degree would be more conscious of disambiguation
>>545817407Holy fuck retards from 2020 STILL not realising the difference between land and population centres.....>Stop the count!>They stole the election!Jesus fucking christ you dumb cunts are retarded
>>545821531Ok so in the beginning, only white, male, landowning citizens were allowed to vote. And the vote was apportioned heavily by district and state. So the final decision barely even resembled the popular vote whatsoever. Now you're saying, vote is just about human population, and a district that massed more population should overrule everyone else. The system literally is not designed that way. This is a fantasy that was created in your own mind
>>545821701>The system literally is not designed that wayIt currently is. You just don't want it to be. There's a difference.
>>545817407>when you're an abject fucking retard and dont understand population densityStudy quantum physics. Build a machine. Go back in time. And kill your worthless cunt GRANDmother. The world has done nothing to deserve the existence of the last 2 generations of your garbage ass family, at fucking LEAST.
>>545821635Lmao you're a seething little nigger. Bro shut the fuck up, instead of critiquing grammar and spelling, why don't you engage with ideas? Classic midwit shit, I see that a lot with asians in particular.
>>545820313>>545819459Let's look at the list of countries ranked by agriculture as percentage of total GDP. According to you these agrarian countries must be wealthy paradises!
>>545817407It's not fair. Land should vote, not people.
>>545821755>It currently is. You just don't want it to be.The system is losing legitimacy. It shouldn't work like that, no.
you live under jewish occupation, why would selections be fair?
>>545817407yes, i agree that the electorial college should be a state level thing as well.
>>545821827Why?
>>545821827Cultures should vote. Just because your culture has more people, should not mean you ovverride every other culture. Otherwise we'd all just be ruled by India.
>>545821524the town also die without selling their resources to the city. Would you prefer the state not fund towns at all and just have everyone move to NYC?
>>545817572You have to explain it to them as per capita, because that makes retards feel smartThe per capita vote for Blue team is higher than the per capita vote for Red team, so Blue Team wins
>>545818374>Keep sucking off the blacks, browns, and kikes.Like Trump did since 2016?
>>545822083Lmao no they wouldn't. They can live on the land forever, they're home free. Without the city taking their harvest, they would be fat and happy.
>>545821798non-sequiturTry again
>>545822144The most agrarian countries are the poorest shitholes: >>545821798
>>545822140non-sequiturTDS/10
>>545817407Because rivers and forests dont vote you fuckin jew retard. Post pic of your wall outlets please fellow patriot. Dont forget the time stamp & post ID.
>>545822144Really? They will be smelting their own tools and building their own engines off the land? Unless you are suggesting a regression to pre-industrial farmwork which is FAR more miserable than simply dealing with cooperating with cities in return for finished goods like tractors, fuel, tools, electricity, etc...
>>545822195>posts a bunch of nigger shitholesok bro, I guess Detroit is a super rich utopia then
>>545817572Because 99% of the "republicans" are jeets jews and Russians using vpns
>>545822245You're coping and seething really hard right now. You realize most of the "work" provided in the city is just service-sector shit that doesn't provide any value whatsoever? It's basically make-work created specifically to generate GDP, to keep the debt based financing afloat.
>>545822216The Jeets in Texas?
>>545822259Are they nigger shitholes because they're stuck in the agrarian stage of civilization development or are they stuck in the agrarian stage of civilization development because they're nigger shitholes?Either way doesn't bode well for farmfags
>>545821778I didn't critique grammar or spelling. I critiqued you claiming that the USA isn't a democracy, being rightfully corrected that it is, and then backtracking and acting like you meant it wasn't a direct democracy the whole time. You seem like the type to project, and based off the fact that you think mentioning your STEM degree deflects from you appearing like a retard, I have to assume you're a self-hating chink, which is why you randomly brought up China earlier in the thread.
>>545822364non-sequiturMan, you're extremely low IQ.
>>545822377Direct Democracy means the people are just directly voting on every single proposition like a giant congress unto themselves.No the US literally isn't a democracy. It's a representative republic. The US does not rule by majority vote, that isn't how the system works.
>>545822344Tell me then where farmers source their actual equipment? Even the shingles on their roofs are produced by citydwellers working in factories. Farmers are not self-sufficient, not unless you want to return to a sub-Amish-tier of development.Famers produce one thing, food. Which is important, but they are not some mystical self-sufficient population of demigods living solely off the sweat of their own brow and needing no other humans on Earth to survive.
>>545822344most factories are near the cities actually. most industrial work is near the cities
>>545822504You're digging yourself deeper into the retard hole. Representative republic is a form of democracy and people already told you this.
>>545822369You can take the Texas out of the jeet but donald trump et al has guaranteed you can never take the jeet(s) out of Texas. Grim as fuck but at least theyre not bri'sh
>>545821220where am I supposed to go? yurup is even worse.
>>545822561The US doesn't have factories mate. It's a giant shopping mall. The cities produce GDP, meaning they house a bunch of useless welfarirtes who spend money and create GDP. My point is, this modern economy based on GDP is totally fake, has nothing to do with reality. In reality those agriarian regions are insanely vital for the functioning of the system, they are creating real tangible value. One of the only sectors of society doing so.
>>545819598ideally most things would be decided on local basis
>>545822529>>545822344By the way, if farmers are self-sufficient why do they keep needing to be subsidized by the government to not go bankrupt? They need money from the city dweller taxes to stay afloat.
>>545821798Lmao did you use literal African shitholes filled to the brim with jungle apes to make your point?
>>545822650You don't go anywhere. Your state breaks off the US to form their own government. There is no reason for them to stay in the union if they're just totally overruled by another state. That's why the Founders set up this system in the first place. We're just re-litigating that in this thread for all the uneducated zoom zooms
>>545822654>mateOh, you aren't even American. Why are you pretending?
>545822685>The most agrarian countries are shitholesthank you for agreeing with me
>>545822504It’s also a representative democracy, which is when a country’s people come together to choose people to represent them by popular vote. Granted we have the senate and presidency which complicate things, but given the senate/president can’t actually pass anything without the consent of the house, America is a representative democracy at its foundation.
>>545822705we tried that in 1860 and the cityniggers fucked it over for us then too
>>545817407>Can someone explain how this is fair?Each person's vote carries the same weight, regardless of how many acres of land the person owns.
>>545822654>My point is, this modern economy based on GDP is totally fakeYou keep shifting the goalposts. We can all agree that GDP is fucking retarded as a measure of pretty much anything. America is in 2nd place globally with regards to manufacturing output, it is not like the American economy isn't producing anything tangible.
>>545820815the vast majority of the population of the state is below that line, so no. my county alone only has about 100k people in it, while NYC is something like 8.5M. NYC rules always fuck over the rest of the state anyway, so even if it was still a close race, I'd take those odds
something wrong with the system when Democrats can exploit the fact that a few big cities can decide elections in the future in their favor
>>545822705>>545822377>stops posting after use of "mate" is pointed out>immediately stops being hostile earlier and tries to get back on topic upon being identified as ChineseI think I unironically identified a chink trying to larp as an American
>>545817407Land doesn’t pay taxes.
>>545822529>biofuels are food>cotton is food>timber is food>rubber is foodYep, you're retarded.
>>545823039It’s as if they think getting the majority of the population to vote for them gives them the right to pass legislation. How abhorrent!
>>545823143Pedantic. It doesn't challenge anything I said.
>>545823261You said>Famers produce one thing, foodThat is 100% factually incorrect. Be a man and admit when you're wrong.
>>545817519>no manpower bonus>no early war economycan confirm it's the worst government
>>545823362That wasn't even factually relevant to any of my argument. What are the farmers going to do with a bunch of raw materials? They aren't going to be making their own tires out of rubber trees, they need industry as much as anyone else, they aren't self sufficient.
>>545823261American farmers generally produce and do a lot of shit you wouldn’t even think about. They are light years ahead of virtually everyone else. They aren’t just farming food, they are repairing machines, working stocks, bonds, futures, welding, always building, studying, building houses, everything. They aren’t dumbass rednecks. You could drop one in Russia or china or India and they’d build an empire in years. They are constantly educating themselves in everything they have to because of competition. They chose the life but could leave at any moment to be a mechanic or a computer geek or a carpenter. It’s 24/7 365 constant reading and technical training.
>>545823459You're one sad retard, can't even admit when you're wrong. Thanks for admitting I'm right and you're wrong. I accept your concession. Filtered. Reply more faggot, I'll never see it. I know you will reply, all sub-60 IQ retards do. Prove me right.
>>545817407do americans think this works like splatoon
>>545817572Genuinely they are low IQ
You lost tranny.
>>545817407it just means that rich exploit the poor, poor vote for a party that should remove the red but nothing ever happens
>>545818374Because per capita is an irrelevant useless statistic that means nothing
>>545818374You lost migger.
>>545823634> You could drop one in Russia or china or India and they’d build an empire in years.They absolutely could not. This kind of insane idolatry is the exact shit I was talking about, you guys act like farmers are demigods. They fill an important economic role but they don't have any right to claim to be a "self-sufficient" force who is burdened by the weight of the rest of society.
>>545823932Yep, you're retarded.>>545824055Not an argument. Thanks for showing how retarded you are. I accept your concession.
>>545823085Hey wow, the exposed chinaman still hasn't posted since having it pointed out that Americans don't say mate
>>545817572They're sincerely very stupid, and the ones who know better pretend to be stupid because it's to their advantage to pretend like rural voters should count more.
>>545821161>>545820714Imma be real with you, as a guy from Upstate NY, we are parasites that need NYC $$ to survive. There is no economy here.
>>545817523Things like that are why the Senate was invented for Congress in the 1780s
>>545824362Imagine being so jewish you go against the founding fathers and what they wanted. LAND owners voted. So yes, male LAND did vote. People in apartments don't own land, so they can't vote. Women aren't men, I know that's shocking to you, so they can't vote either. Homeless people don't own land, so they can't vote either. If you live with someone in a house and your name isn't on the title, then you don't own land, so you can't vote either.Suddenly following the original intentions of the founders makes sense and the only way Democrats would be able to win is by rigging.
>>545817407Weird how republicans only cry about our electoral system when they lose.
>>545820815>>545823009I just did the math and upstate NY (north of putnam and rockland counties) would be a swing state. It goes red in 2024 with a difference of 13,000 votes. Although I doubt NYC would let the catskills go, considering that's where they get all their water.
>>545824591>imagine being so jewish you don't support my migger copeno one asked, kike
>>545824591There wasn't a minimum amount of landmass required to be considered a landowner, so it would just devolve into people buying a square foot of land for barely anything just to vote. And then at that point, just don't require it at all.
>>545824625Imagine the destitute hellhole that state would be without the tax budget coming from NYC. They'd be west virginia tier
>>545824617same as democrats, nigger
>>545825038It is pretty funny how both sides pretend like they're trying to be fair and think about what's logically best and by pure "coincidence" it happens to be the system that favors their side.
>>545824835Not an argument, thanks for admitting I'm right and you're wrong. I accept your concession. Filtered. Reply more, I'll never see it. I know you will, all retards do.>>545824930Only having WHITE MEN as voters would eliminate the Democrat party entirely. No, jews aren't white.
>>545817407>land doesn't votesimple as
>>545817407>Miggers are so brown they don’t understand per capita
>>545825733>When whites use per capita it is cringe. When minorities use per capita it is based
why are yts so easily triggered
>>545817407Dirt don't vote, tranny. You lost.
>>545820225Who's gonna tell him?
>>545817407montauk going blue is pretty crazy
>>545817572They do, they just pretend they don’t to farm outrage.
>>545824591Then no votes matter. Citizens don't own land in the US, the govt does.
>>545825038>See, we're just as bad as the people we've been calling pedophile demons from hell!I didn't expect quite this much self reporting this cope cycle.
>>545818676I wish I were one of them. NYC is my dream.
>>545818672>Left Wing Me Read this heavy handed paragraph so i can gas light you with tropes>hahaha >I bet your're pretty offended by this paragraph you are cringe
>>545824591>if you haven't bought land, you don't deserve basic rights goyim>no, you're the jew for not falling for my sneaky tactics
>Can someone explain how this is fair?It's not. Dems should have more living space.
>>545825508>No, jews aren't white.But they are the majority of landowners.At least per capita.
>>545817407Land doesn't vote. People do.
>>545817407the blue parts are cities and residential areas, the red parts are cars abandoned on the side of the road
>>545817572Conservatism is about not understanding things and then getting angry about it
>>545825038It's almost like both parties are rotten, entrenched, undemocratic institutions that feel entitled to power and throw a tantrum when they're denied it.
>>545817572The real question is why rural folk tend to be retarded miggers.
>>545818374I am not a leftist. There are more than two kinds of people in the world. You lack theory of mind.
>>545817407If you fail to understand the concept of population density, no. No one can explain you why it's fair and you should just blow your migger's brain out
>>545817572Same reason niggers can't understand per capita.
>>545817523Where all the McDonalds are. Funny that. Bascially validating this >>545817519 post.
>>545817928Orleans County agreed to stay in the union where NYC decides what happens to them
>>545818049It should. The urban hordes literally do nothing. One rural farmer is more important to civilization than 10,000 DEI consultants, artfags, and paper pushers.
>>545829785its funny because leftists count beaner murderers as white which is another form of gerrymandering and then gaslight later about it
>>545820234but thats not true at all, the person 'answering the question" was just a psychotic leftist gaslighting about a state that is gerrymandered in favor of violent niggers and passing it off as per capita population density memes
>>545817407You lost tranny
>>545817407it's a bullshit map,rural NY does not vote.if they did, luke blakeman would have won
>>545817407Because universal suffrage is retarded. You have hordes of non-productive service "workers", PMC, consumer retards, welfarians, and financial elites who all "earn" livings moving money around or pushing paper. But because they're a monolithic horde with superior numbers, they win the majority votes in a system that favours raw numbers. Meanwhile the productive core of the state or country, the primary sector workers, the tradesmen, the entrepeneurs, the few managers that actually directly organize productive labour, etc, are dispersed or vastly outnumbers by the consumer urbanite hordes. Plato more or less warned that this is what happens. It's even worse now because the urbanites are convinced that their magic GDP graphs and debt financing make them "productive", when it's actually the complete opposite. Making money by moving other money around or betting on the 15th time the same house has been sold in the last 30 years is not productive; it's entropic as fuck and will inevitably lead to resource shortages and productive bottlenecks in the near future.
>>545821798but when we try to do the exact same thing you are doing but with race, you say it doesnt countwhite farmer gdp is higher than brown city dweller gdponly by using jewish parasiter gdp to obfuscate can you claim that white farmer gdp is something that brown citydwellers should have a say over
>>545817407>land doesn't vote>I'm a communist btw if that matters
>>545822364the most jeeted part of texas is austinthe picture that went viral is UT, in austinaustin has voted leftist and democrat since 1994
>>545822377a us army war manual defined democracy as a dangerous ideology of mob rule and anti americanfranklin delano roosevelt had this manual removed and destroyed, only a few copies remain
>>545817572They are extremely underdeveloped and deeply mentally ill and don't understand per capita.
the deer dont get to vote.
>>545822529in america, franklin delano roosevelt threatened to pack the supreme court if they didnt rule his way on a few casesone of these cases was called wickard v. filburna farmer attempted to be self sufficientcity dwellers said that cant be possibleand the judges on the supreme court, not wanting to be diluted, said "um yes um so like um 'commerce clause' yeah um yeah thats right, 'commerce clause' so now you have to do what we say, farmers are officially banned from trying to be self sufficient"and thats the story of jealous leftist citydwellers and american kulaks
>>545822681milk can be made into cheese which is calories that can be bankedthe american military wants that cheese in case someone attacked them in a big wayso they will always make sure the dairy industry will exist in america no matter how bad the market gets
>>545817407I know they don't teach inbred suburban white boys about this but it's called population density This is why east asia have higher average iqs than white western countries. Yall are stupid cumskin pigs
>>545822811>when a country’s people come together to choose people to represent them by popular vote.population based legislative districts are a new thing, just like raced based legislative districts
>>545823251they gerrymandered the state actually
>>545831628both sides do that, all the fucking time.
>>545831658show me the 3 worst gerrymandered states for both sides then because i do not agree
>>545831541actually the state of new york is gerrymandered
>>545824420Not if we stop giving it all to poors and shitskin
>>545817523Most people in NYC don't even contribute anything meaningful to society let alone the economy. They're functionally dead weight and is like the 300lb tumor attached to your body dictating the calls because it has the most cells on your body. A reason why "land votes" is because the fewer people that live there have to contribute more per capita to make civilization functional there. On densely urban areas a good chunk of people are highly redundant and intact would make things run more efficiently and economically better if they didnt exist at all.
>>545817572Why is it that niggers and leftists can never comprehend per capita?
>>545819943>in-humanswe're in with humans, not subhumans. ubermensch i think they labeled you?
>>545817407Land doesnt vote. The blue parts are population centers. The red parts are sparsely inhabited farm land.
>>545817779Sage
>>545817407>>545817519>I don't understand numbersgood for you, loser
All that red is probably just 50k vs NYC which is millions of people
>>545831999>per capitanot how things work and you know it. you're just mad your guy lost and you're looking for excuses.
>>545817928If you'd prefer to spread the population of NYC evenly across the state, be my guest, and see what the outcome is.
>>545832317To be fair...Niggers arent human
>>545830711No, he isn't. He can easily replaced. The farming is what's important, not people. Having dirty shoes doesn't make you special.
